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Title: Skip Intro Challenging A K A Stone on Origins
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Published: Sep 24, 2010
Author: Dabney Coleman
Post Date: 2010-09-24 13:52:14 by Skip Intro
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#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

It's called science testing itself.

Try it with religion some time.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mininggold (#8)

The posit is that scientists are backing off their claim.

The ones doing the questioning never subscribed.

FWIW, I'm agnostic and don't really care. They aren't here where I am and, thankfully, neither are black bears.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#11)

There are no scientific tests to prove evolution or the age of the earth. They are all assumptions.

Show me evolution in a test tube. Or anywhere in the world that it has happened.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Very few of the Dinosaurs you are attributing to the description could fit under a 'shady tree', unless it was a Redwood. And that was one big bunch of willows. It sounds like just another Bible description of a vague boogeyman needed to keep the faithful scared and compliant.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-24   14:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Dinosaurs were hatched from eggs. They didn't have navels on their bellies.

Anyway, these passages from Job and the ones which precede it are metaphors for how faith is built. The passage that you cite is a metaphor FOR the strength of faith.

You're welcome.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#14)

He moveth his tail like a cedar:

You say few of the dinosaurs could "fit" under a tree. It said the creature was lying down under the trees.

Also no one here is scared.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#13)

There are no scientific tests to prove evolution or the age of the earth.

Is that your opinion or a statement of fact. If it's the latter it's a lie.

Prove to me with a test tube that planets exist.

See how dumb your challenge was?

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#15)

Why do you assume that all dinosuars layed eggs? What do you base that on?

No it is not a metaphor. It is a description of a real creature by people what were there.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#16)

You say few of the dinosaurs could "fit" under a tree. It said the creature was lying down under the trees.

How did it get under them, by crawling?

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-24   14:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#17)

You don't need a test tube to prove planets exist. You can simply use your eyes at the right time of year, or a telescope.

See how stupid your hypothesis was? Probably not, as you are slow and probably disabled (hence your 24/7 presence on the web).

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mininggold (#19)

How did it get under them, by crawling?

I don't know or care. It doesn't validate or invalidate the account given. It doesn't really matter.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#18)

Why do you assume that all dinosuars layed eggs? What do you base that on?

I based it upon paying attention in biology when the reproductive cycles of various species of life were discussed.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)

You don't need a test tube for evolution.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#20)

See how stupid your hypothesis was? Probably not, as you are slow and probably disabled (hence your 24/7 presence on the web).

Wha...huh?

Was that a gratuitous attack or is that Big Mac repeating on you?

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#22)

You had dinosaurs with their insides intact? If you learned that way back when. There should be some article on the web that shows the insides of a dinosaur? And to survive intact billions of years. Amazing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#18)

No it is not a metaphor.

What is the Book of Job about?

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#23)

You don't need a test tube for evolution.

You don't need anything for evolution, except an overactive imagination.

Ok then give me one real world example of witnessed evolution. You can't because it didn't happen and will never happen. I'm taking one species to another.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#26)

It is about a man named Job (an easterner) probably asian and his life and struggles.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#25)

You're babbling.

"Insides" can be determined from skeletal remains. Again something you would have learned had you paid attention in biology.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)

And Job had what tested?

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#29)

Uh no they can't.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#25) (Edited)

You had dinosaurs with their insides intact? If you learned that way back when. There should be some article on the web that shows the insides of a dinosaur? And to survive intact billions of years. Amazing.

You can tell by the pelvic bone structure, in most cases it's very similiar to that of chickens.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-24   14:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#28)

It is about a man named Job (an easterner) probably asian and his life and struggles.

Given that Palestine is in Asia...duh...

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: war (#30)

He had his faith tested. His blessings removed etc.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#31)

Uh no they can't.

ROFLMAO...

SAY GOOD NIGHT GRACIE.

You just invalidated the ENTIRE science of FORENSICS.

Nice job.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold (#32)

You can tell by the pelvic bone structure, in most cases it's very similiar to that of chickens.

When you don't have an original you are guessing and making assumptions.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#34)

So it's not a book abut dinosaurs as you claim it is.

You have a gross underknowledge of the religion you proclaim to adhere.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#36)

When you don't have an original you are guessing and making assumptions.

They have plenty of originals.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-24   14:29:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#35)

You're stupid. See the above post. In human beings yes because we have studied what the insides are and can make conclusions based on that. But on dinosaurs and other long extinct species it would be assumptions.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#36)

So it's your belief that dinosaurs are an outlier species. That everything that has been discovered and held true in forensic biology is not applicable to dinosaurs.

Got it...thanks...

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mininggold (#38)

They have plenty of originals.

Show me one of these dinosaurs with its insides intact. Actually you would have to show me every kind of dinosaur that existed to have a valid point. Get busy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#39)

You're stupid.

Chuckles...okay.

You play ball like a girl.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   14:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#26)

What is the Book of Job about?

That's an easy one. It's when god and his drinking buddies got to talking about faith and satan - no, not that one, bet god that even his most loyal and righteous subject, Job, could be made to curse god if the proper inducements were made.

God said to go ahead, just don't kill him. So Job lost all of his family, his possessions, and then his health. Then his friends came along to further torment him, but he never cursed god, so god said "That's good enough for me", and gave him a brand new family, wealth, and his health back.

It is never explained what his old family did to deserve being killed for a bet, and apparently Job never missed them once he got his new family.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-24   14:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: war (#37)

So it's not a book abut dinosaurs as you claim it is.

You have a gross underknowledge of the religion you proclaim to adhere.

The book of John is not a book about pharisees. There are pharisees ih the book but that is not the core of the subject. I'm not surprised that you don't get that. You threw your common sense out the window when you started imagining evolution.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#39)

You're stupid.

That's not a very nice, Christian thing to say.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-09-24   14:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war, A K A Stone (#35)

You just invalidated the ENTIRE science of FORENSICS.

Nice job.

Stone's going to be responsible for thousands of convicted criminals being let out.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-24   14:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Fred Mertz (#45)

That's not a very nice, Christian thing to say.

It's what Stone always says when he's losing.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-24   14:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Skip Intro (#47)

It is what I say when people say stupid things. Got it idiot?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-24   14:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone (#48) (Edited)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-09-24   14:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#41)

how me one of these dinosaurs with its insides intact. Actually you would have to show me every kind of dinosaur that existed to have a valid point. Get busy.

I doubt you would be able to tell the difference between a mammalian skeleton or that of a bird or dinosaur anyway. You lack curiosity and are afraid you might learn something,

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-24   14:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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