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Title: A GOP Pledge to Do Nothing
Source: David Frum
URL Source: http://www.frumforum.com/a-gop-pledge-to-do-nothing
Published: Sep 24, 2010
Author: David Frum
Post Date: 2010-09-24 10:38:08 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 31607
Comments: 49

I had a good chuckle at Erick Erickson’s enraged piece on the Republican pledge, now being circulated by Democratic spinmeisters.

Question for Erickson: What did he expect?

Here is the GOP cruising to a handsome election victory. Did you seriously imagine that they would jeopardize the prospect of victory and chairmanships by issuing big, bold promises to do deadly unpopular things?

But if the document is unsurprising, it’s also unsurprising that Erickson and those who think like him would find it enraging. The “Pledge to America” is a repudiation of the central, foundational idea behind the Tea Party. Tea Party activists have been claiming all year that there exists in the United States a potential voting majority for radically more limited government.

The Republican “Pledge to America” declares: Sorry, we don’t believe that. We shall cut spending where we can – reform the legislative process in important ways – and sever the federal guarantee for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Republicans will redirect the federal government to a new path that is less expensive and intrusive than the status quo. But if you want promises of radical change? No. Too risky. We don’t think the voters want that – not the smaller, older, richer, whiter electorate that votes in non- presidential years, much less the bigger, younger, poorer, less white electorate of presidential years. And even that smaller, older, richer, whiter electorate is highly wary of cuts to programs that benefit them, Medicare above all.

But the real news is this: You can primary a Bob Bennett, you can nominate a Sharron Angle, you can balk Karl Rove and Mike Castle – but when decision hour arrives, the leadership of the party rejects the assessment of the American electorate offered by Rush Limbaugh, Dick Armey and for that matter Erick Erickson.

Yet at the same time, we so-called RINOs can take no pleasure in this document. Yes, there is good in it. (Putting legislative language online 72 hours in advance seems Good Government 101.) The silly bits are not too silly: the promise to cite specific constitutional language is an empty sop to those so-called constitutionalists who vainly hope to revive the John Randolph school of constitutional interpretation.

But the true sad news is that this is not a document to govern with in the recessionary year 2010. It’s fine to reject Tea Party illusions. But without an alternative modern Republican affirmative program, the GOP will find itself at risk of being captured and controlled by special interests instead.

The most admirable thing about the Tea Party is its zeal to find a bigger message for the Republican Party than: do what K Street wants. The message offered by the Tea Party may have been unworkable, unrealistic, or worse – but at least it was large and public-spirited.

I’d like to see a Modern Republicanism that responds better to the needs of the country, while retaining still the Tea Party’s reforming spirit. What I fear is the worst of all worlds: a Republican majority that rejects not only extremist ideas, but all ideas.

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#2. To: go65 (#0)

But the real news is this: You can primary a Bob Bennett, you can nominate a Sharron Angle, you can balk Karl Rove and Mike Castle – but when decision hour arrives, the leadership of the party rejects the assessment of the American electorate offered by Rush Limbaugh, Dick Armey and for that matter Erick Erickson.

Looks like you're the designated fill in poster for Brian S today . . .

Anyway, I can't find anything in this article to really disagree with. I know you're a partisan Dim. Me? As a conservative, I think I hate the republican party more than the dems.

With the dems - you KNOW what you're going to get. While all the 'pubs do is run on conservative, good sounding platitudes and then, once elected, govern like the statists they are.

Christie in NJ might be an exception - we shall see. But the rest of them? Pfffffffft.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-24   10:48:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ignore Amos (#2) (Edited)

Christie is like a dumb carpenter. He has the remodeling plan but he doesn't understand basic engineering.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   10:50:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#3)

Christie is like a dumb carpenter. He has the remodeling plan but he doesn't understand basic engineering.

war - I know you have a hard-on against Christie.

Which makes him all the better in my book

:-)

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-24   10:53:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ignore Amos (#4)

Towns suffering from budget shortfalls...pension plan severely underfunded. And his administration can't fill out a basic form. He's facing a continuing deficit with nothing left to cut and a credit rating that is going to make borrowing difficult. Now he wants to cut taxes. How is this fat fuck different from Kean or Whitman or Bush or Reagan?

But tell me again how you prefer dems over Republicans.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   10:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#5)

Towns suffering from budget shortfalls...
Why? Who runs the towns? Are taxpayers leaving those towns? Do you want Christie to build a fence around NJ to keep the "taxpayer" class from voting with their feet?
pension plan severely underfunded.
Why? Who runs the pension plans? Who promised perpetual funding?
And his administration can't fill out a basic form.
So? Tim Geitner - GOOD GREIF!the TREASURY SEC'Y - can't do Turbo Tax. BFD
He's facing a continuing deficit with nothing left to cut and a credit rating that is going to make borrowing difficult.
Bullbarack! There's always room to cut.
Now he wants to cut taxes.
NJ has one of the highest - if not THE highest - tax rates in the nation. Again, do you propose the Christie build a fence around NJ to keep taxpayers in?
How is this fat fuck different from Kean or Whitman or Bush or Reagan?
Classy. So you now hate him because he's fat?

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-24   12:57:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ignore Amos (#9)

Why? Who runs the towns?

GOP - Kean I think - put a plan in about 25 years ago that polled municipal revenues.

Why? Who runs the pension plans? Who promised perpetual funding?

The pension plans are an obligation of the state.

So? Tim Geitner - GOOD GREIF!the TREASURY SEC'Y - can't do Turbo Tax. BFD

Oh...they ALL do it. Glad to see you come around on that.

Bullbarack! There's always room to cut.

Budgets are governed by statute. Some spending is mandatory.

Classy. So you now hate him because he's fat?

It underscores a lack of self control.

war  posted on  2010-09-24   13:05:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#13)

Why? Who runs the towns?

GOP - Kean I think - put a plan in about 25 years ago that polled municipal revenues.

OK - so 25 years ago, a plan was put into place to delay the inevitable. Now the day of reckoning is here.
Why? Who runs the pension plans? Who promised perpetual funding?

The pension plans are an obligation of the state.

It's a pretty piss-poor way to run a state, don't you think? To take on obligations that you cannot properly fund?

One certainly couldn't run a household or business that way.

So? Tim Geitner - GOOD GREIF!the TREASURY SEC'Y - can't do Turbo Tax. BFD

Oh...they ALL do it. Glad to see you come around on that.

OF COURSE they all do it. YOU'RE the one who holds Rs to different standards than Ds

Bullbarack! There's always room to cut.

Budgets are governed by statute. Some spending is mandatory.

And some spending isn't mandatory. Start there.

Classy. So you now hate him because he's fat?

It underscores a lack of self control.

Lack of self-control can manifest itself in many ways. He apparently struggles with over-eating.

Do you struggle with anything?

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-24   13:29:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ignore Amos (#17)

Do you struggle with anything?

Yea...when I put steamed brussels sprouts into my egg white omelet, I get really bad gas...

war  posted on  2010-09-24   13:37:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war, mininggold (#22)

I get really bad gas...

OK - that explains why mininggold showed up in post #19

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-24   13:40:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ignore Amos (#23)

OK - that explains why mininggold showed up in post #19

Yeah right troll. You are the gas.

Of course when posters are compared to the candidates they are discussing (as if any of that is relevant) that's okay with you.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-24   13:45:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mininggold, war (#24) (Edited)

Yeah right troll. You are the gas.
Hmmm . . . I've been told that before, yes.

Of course when posters are compared to the candidates they are discussing (as if any of that is relevant) that's okay with you.
It's as relevant as war's pointing out that Christie is fat. Or is being fat now a dis-qualifier for holding office?

And are you okay with that?

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-24   13:50:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ignore Amos (#25)

It's as relevant as war's pointing out that Christie is fat. Or is being fat now a dis-qualifier for holding office? And are you okay with that?

And you are always trying to manipulate the discourse here.

If he's 400 pounds or on the way to it you betcha! And it's relevant as long as he's running for office or remains in the public domain.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-24   13:58:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#26)

And you are always trying to manipulate the discourse here.
If you don't like what I have to say, then that's what the filter is for.
If he's 400 pounds or on the way to it you betcha! And it's relevant as long as he's running for office or remains in the public domain.
It's so good to hear that candidates on your planet are perfect - no flaws. Character, physical, or otherwise.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-24   16:45:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Ignore Amos (#33)

If you don't like what I have to say, then that's what the filter is for.

Why? I would much rather point out the flaws in your 'thinking':

All candidates with certain letters behind their names are superior, no matter what their vices, to private citizens.

Private citizens are here to protect, please and fund the political class.

Lobbyists and vested interests rule and should control the political processes!

And vote for the candidates presented to us or shut up. lolol

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-25   14:15:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mininggold (#47)

If you don't like what I have to say, then that's what the filter is for.

Why? I would much rather point out the flaws in your 'thinking':

If this:
All candidates with certain letters behind their names are superior, no matter what their vices, to private citizens.

Private citizens are here to protect, please and fund the political class.

Lobbyists and vested interests rule and should control the political processes!

And vote for the candidates presented to us or shut up. lolol

. . . is an example of YOUR 'thinking',
then I'll happily remain with my 'flaws'.

But thanks anyway.

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