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Title: Romney leads Palin among possible GOP contenders, poll finds
Source: The Miami Herald
URL Source: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/ ... eads-palin-among-possible.html
Published: Sep 22, 2010
Author: MARGARET TALEV
Post Date: 2010-09-22 13:44:24 by Hondo68
Keywords: Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, independent women
Views: 10717
Comments: 21

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is the early frontrunner among potential Republican candidates for president in 2012, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll.

While former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin commands the national spotlight, turning out "tea party" activists and headlining rallies, for now it's Romney who claims the lead at 25 percent, months before an official field takes shape. Palin, GOP nominee John McCain's 2008 running mate, took second with 18 percent.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee tied for third place with 16 percent. Finishing out the pack were Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty with 6 percent, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels with 4 percent and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour with 2 percent.

The survey of 815 registered voters, conducted last Tuesday through Thursday, also highlights more concerns for President Barack Obama and for the Democrats, who are fearful of losing their congressional majority in the November elections.

On the surface, Americans are divided over whether they want Republicans to take over Congress: Forty-eight percent say yes and 46 percent say no.

However, among voters who describe themselves as "very enthusiastic," 62 percent say they want Republicans in charge. Similarly, Republicans have the edge when those who "definitely" plan to vote are asked which party they'll vote for in their own districts.

For the first time, a majority of registered voters - 54 percent - said Obama had fallen short of their expectations for him as president. The figure was even more pronounced - 59 percent - among voters younger than 30, the very group Obama hoped to energize permanently.

The president's approval rating among registered voters was 45 percent, dragged down by those who fear that the worst of the economic crisis is still to come. Among independents, 54 percent disapprove of the job he's doing as president and 40 percent approve, the first time his approval rating with the group has been negative.

Just 16 percent of young voters were "very" enthusiastic about voting in November, compared with 43 percent of voters 60 and older, a group that's more likely to vote Republican. Independents are much less enthusiastic than Democrats or Republicans are, meaning partisan turnout could be key.

"It means there's an enthusiasm gap out there that Democrats have to address, or hold on to your hats in November," said Lee M. Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, N.Y., which performed the survey.

The survey asked 369 Republicans or Republican-leaning independents whom they favor among seven potential primary candidates.

Palin, Gingrich and Huckabee could be canceling out some of one another's support, Miringoff said, especially among Southern and conservative voters. Combined, they count a greater share of support than Romney does. It's also so early that name recognition is driving much of the findings.

"It is not unusual for someone at this point in the presidential election cycle to be an asterisk but emerge" months later, he said. Romney withdrew from his party's nominating contest four years ago after losing key early states and began laying the groundwork for a 2012 campaign.

Nevertheless, Miringoff said, "The fact Romney's doing this well and Palin is not dominating are both very interesting."

Voters who call themselves conservative preferred Romney to Palin. So did self-described supporters of the tea party movement; 25 percent preferred Romney and 19 percent Palin.

The poll found Romney's strongest appeal among college graduates and voters in Western states, while Palin did better with voters who don't have college degrees, voters younger than 30 and voters from the South. Both did well with voters from the Northeast.

Palin's weakest demographic in the primary preference poll - and Romney's strongest - was independent women. Just 11 percent of independent women favored Palin; 33 percent favored Romney.

Regionally, Romney was weakest in the South, a problem that has lingered since 2008. For now, 15 percent of southern Republicans and Republican-leaning independents favor Romney while 21 percent prefer Palin, and Gingrich and Huckabee each has 19 percent support.

Non-college grads slightly favored Palin, with Romney close behind. College grads voiced a clear preference for Romney - 29 percent - followed by Gingrich at 21 percent. In a potentially ominous sign for Palin, just 11 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents with college degrees preferred her.

METHODOLOGY:

This survey of 815 registered voters, including 369 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, was conducted last Tuesday through Thursday. The results are statistically significant at plus or minus 3.5 percentage points and plus or minus 5 percentage points, respectively. The error margin increases for cross-tabulations. Residents 18 and older were interviewed by telephone. Phone numbers were selected based on a list of telephone exchanges from throughout the nation. The exchanges were selected to ensure that each region was represented in proportion to its population. To increase coverage, this land-line sample was supplemented by respondents reached through random dialing of cell phone numbers. The two samples then were combined.


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

In a potentially ominous sign for Palin, just 11 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents with college degrees preferred her.

This is a surprise?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-22   14:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Skip Intro (#1)

Palin's weakest demographic in the primary preference poll - and Romney's strongest - was independent women. Just 11 percent of independent women favored Palin; 33 percent favored Romney.

I'm surprised that not more independent women like her. It seems like the independent men, might be thinking with the wrong head?

Hondo68  posted on  2010-09-22   14:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

I'm surprised that not more independent women like her. It seems like the independent men, might be thinking with the wrong head?

Maybe because she is not seen as being independent? Just a guess.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-22   14:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0)

'Snewt is going to laser beam in on Romney and leave Palin alone. If you are a Romney supporter...whom are you more likely to support if he loses? 'Snewt or Virgin Sarah? My guess would be 'Snewt.

war  posted on  2010-09-22   14:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4) (Edited)

If you are a Romney supporter

whom are you more likely to support if he loses? 'Snewt or Virgin Sarah?

LOL

I'm not likely to support any of the above. No way!

Is Zell Miller too old?

Hondo68  posted on  2010-09-22   15:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#0)

I will NOT vote for RINO Romney, Huckleberry or any other big government Republican.

I'm still predicting that Palin will run as a third party candidate, because its Romney's "turn" to get the GOP nomination.

If she doesn't run as a third party candidate, another significant person will run.

Palin could do much better than Ross Perot. At this point, I'm not sure who else could.


democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-09-22   17:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

Palin will run as a third party candidate, because its Romney's "turn" to get the GOP nomination.

I'd consider voting for her if she went third party, but she'd need to find the path to citizenship first. It's there (US embassy), but she hasn't acknowledged it yet.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-09-22   17:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#7)

I would vote for her as third party candidate. If she was the Republican candidate, maybe.


democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-09-22   18:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68, whiningskag, All (#2)

I'm surprised that not more independent women like her.

Women generally aren't too fond of other women who are better looking, happier and more successful than they are. Right whiningskag?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-23   0:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ibluafartsky (#9)

Women generally aren't too fond of other women who are better looking, happier and more successful than they are. Right whiningskag?

I wouldn't know, but it seems like you love wasting your time getting jealous over politicians. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-23   0:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#10)

I wouldn't know,

jealous over politicians.

I'll bet you wouldn't!

You're dumber than you are ugly.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-23   0:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ibluafartsky (#11)

I'll bet you wouldn't!

You're dumber than you are ugly.

How would you know what I look like Mr Bush Press Pass possessor? You a sorceror too?

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-23   0:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#12)

How would you know what I look

Liberals are ugly externally and internally.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-25   14:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ibluafartsky (#13)

Liberals are ugly externally and internally.

I guess you should know as the object of your press pass was extremely liberal.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-25   15:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

Unfortunately, its RINO Romney's turn to get the GOP nomination.

The second runner up always gets the GOP nomination the next time.

Reagan challenged Ford in 76, he was the nominee in 80.
Bush challenged Reagan in 80, he was the nominee in 88.
Dole challenged Bush in 88, he was the nominee in 96.
(No serious 96 challenger ran in 2000)
McCain challenged Bush in 2000, he was the nominee in 2008.

It's the way the brain dead GOP works.

Just watch.

If RINO Romney gets the GOP nomination, I will once again vote for third party candidate.


democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-09-25   15:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: hondo68 (#0)

Polls are nothing more than propaganda tools used to condition people.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-09-25   16:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jwpegler (#15)

Unfortunately, its RINO Romney's turn to get the GOP nomination.

I thought that there was no chance that McCain could get the '08 nomination, and I was wrong. From a sane perspective, Romulin should have no chance. One issue is whether his father George had renounced his Mexican citizenship by the time of Mitt's birth? George was born in Mexico and it's unclear if, or when he became a US citizen. If a dual citizen, then Mitt's not a "natural born US citizen" as required by the Constitution.

Sam Brownback, who was a GOP candidate briefly in '08 had a lot about this issue on his website. The Boston Globe did a series of articles on the Romney clan's exile to Mexico and the ones still there. The US Army ran them out of Utah and into Mexico for being polygamists.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-09-25   16:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68 (#17)

George was born in Mexico and it's unclear if, or when he became a US citizen

Romney's father was the governor of Michigan in the 1960s. Yes, he was born in Mexico, but his family came back to the U.S. in 1912.

The current Democrat Governor of Michigan was born in Canada.

Romney's father is not going anywhere as a campaign issue. If we want to stop him, we need to tell people about Mitt's record, including signing something close to Obamacare into law in Massachusetts.


democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-09-25   16:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mininggold (#14)

your press pass

You really need to put the gin bottle down, whiningskag.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-25   16:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ibluafartsky, mininggold (#19)

You really need to put the gin bottle down

You lost your seat next to Helen Thomas in the WH press corp? No wonder you're bitter.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-09-25   16:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68, mininggold (#20)

your seat next to Helen Thomas in the WH press corp?

According to whiningskag who I'll bet looks very much like Thomas.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-25   16:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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