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Title: Obama Says Mexicans in America before it was even an idea
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR61uTGTFoM&feature=player_embedded
Published: Sep 21, 2010
Author: Obama
Post Date: 2010-09-21 16:43:19 by Nebuchadnezzar
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www.youtube.com/v/yR61uTGTFoM?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"> 1. What a moron Obama is. Mexico did appear as an independent state till 1821!!! 2. Notice how he deletes,"By their creator"? Only a pipe-smoking retard would think the guy is a Christian.
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#18. To: jwpegler (#16)
It wasn't the Spaniards that built the temples. I'm surprised you didn't see them while you were in Mexico. The point is that there was a Mexico BEFORE the United States and that there were Mexicans in what is now the US way back then.
Right......
LOL They were also extremely advanced in plant husbandry, having hybridized the current versions of corn, beans, peppers, squash among others in their floating gardens that stretched for miles. If they had had horses especially the light horse introduced to Spain by the Moors it would have been a totally different story. Unlike in plants and animals, mating with the unrelated human strain called the Spanish did not seem to produce much hybrid vigor at least in the intellectual sense. There are some that believe it actually dumbed the next generations down.
I think its more the result of arrogance and domination than genetics.
You are wrong. The United States existed before Mexico. Mexico fought a war for independance beginning in 1810. They won independance in 1821. The United States was already started.
Mexico Celebrates 200th Independence Day Mexico City : Mexico | Sep 15, 2010 http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6767744-mexico-celebrates-200th-independence-day Did not exist before the United States.
Dell 710...watching my son's hockey practice...I have to keep the font on VERY LARGE beause I refuse to wear reding glasses...
You do know that France was a nation of varying borders before the current model of government took power? This is where you usually remind me that I'm trying to get a fool to think.
Who said that it did? American was named America before there was an "America". Mexico existed. Period.
No,a CITY in the country now known as Mexico was named with that name back then. There was no country and there was no nation known as Mexico. And most especially,there was no Mexico in the north.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
"They" who,the Aztecs? Were they called Aztecs,or where they called Mexicans? How many lived in the areas now known as California,Arizona, and Texas?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
It wasn't Mexicans that built them,either. You know this is true because not a single one of them claimed to be Latin.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Windows 7 has a magnifier feature that works great and with no distortion.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
As a city,not a country.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I have Firefox on that machine.
Huh?
Huh? Oh come on. Mexicans consider themselves Latinos, not Injuns.
So fucking what?
Then who were Mexicans before they were Mexicans?
The fucking what is that Aztecs/Mayans and any other Injuns were clearly not Mexicans/Latinos as we know them and they know themselves.
The Mexica are also known as Aztec. How many lived in the areas now known as California,Arizona, and Texas? Linguistically they are linked to the Native Americans who lived in the LA basin.
Windows 7 is the operating system,not the browswer. I use Firefox,too. You can magnify the text more on Firefox by holding down the control key and moving the scroll wheel on your mouse than you can using the "view" folder on your browser. You can magnify it more by just using the magnifier tool that is a part of the Win 7 operating system.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Huh? You haven't noticed how practically every resident of 3rd world Central and south American shitholes claims to be a Latino or Latina?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No if only because a good portion of South America is Portugese.
Oh...I think it's running XP...it's old and very portable. The battery no longer charges so it has to be plugged in but I get an internet connection with it. Thanks.
Right. Aztecs spoke cholo. Good call! In a related field,do you know there is a remote tribe in Siberia that has virtually the same language as the Dakota Sioux? No,it's knot the same,but you can take a resident of that remote Siberian village that still speaks the native language (not all do),sit him down on the Lakota reservation,and he and the Sioux can understand each other. Does that mean the Siberians are from North Dakota,or the Sioux are Russians?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
What does this have to do with the Spanish speaking denizens of South and Central America? Hell,a lot of Argentinians speak German.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Win 7 is even more trouble free than XP,and has more features. Such as the magnifier. You can get the home edition for around 70 bucks if you shop around. I bought my whole HP/Compaq laptop with Win 7 premium home edition already loaded for 289 bucks,and it's both faster and has a much larger harddrive and twice as much memory as my old Dell home computer that died. It even has a DVD/CD burner built in,which my old tower computer didn't.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No, the Sioux are Siberian. It is theorized that people first arrived on the American continent across the Bering Strait from Asia in three waves so it makes sense that there is a relationship between the languages.
Google this phrase..."Clovis Europe"...
I believe the same with some Japanese dialects and the Zuni.
Those were the Myans, whose "empire" covered what is now southern Mexico and Belize. I've been to a couple of Myan sites in Belize. Give me your email and I'll send you some pics. Seriously, they are magnificent. This has little to to with the nation-state of Mexico, which was founded by people of European / Spanish decent long after America was "an idea". Obama is flat wrong, as usual.
Previous post...
Not to be a stickler, but also Guatemala and Honduras
Thanks for pointing that out, but the point to the dynamic duo is that the pre- Spanish "temples" aren't the same geography, political system, etc. as modern Mexico. So Obama is wrong once again.
Yea...and? Aztec [Mexicae] were in in Central Mexico.
Nobody said that they were. You had to reframe the argument to make it something that it wasn't and them pretend that you know more than us. You don't. And you're not that clever.
I didn't re-frame anything. Obama said that Mexicans were here long before America was an idea, and that is completely wrong.
Are you claiming that there are no Mexicans in Mexico who are of Aztec or Mayan decent?
There are Americans in American who are dependents of various North American Indian tribes, but there was no America until whitie came from Europe and established it. ditto for Mexico.
Okay...here was not here before it was here...then we came here and made it here. Got it. What Obama said was 100% correct.
Have you ever been to Mexico??? I have, many times. It's a country that is largely run by people who came from Spain.
#19. To: war (#13)
I'm working on a small laptop
#20. To: lucysmom (#17)
(Edited)
They were an empire.
#21. To: mininggold (#20)
Unlike in plants and animals, mating with the unrelated human strain called the Spanish did not seem to produce much hybrid vigor at least in the intellectual sense. There are some that believe it actually dumbed the next generations down.
#22. To: lucysmom (#18)
The point is that there was a Mexico BEFORE the United States and that there were Mexicans in what is now the US way back then.
#23. To: lucysmom (#21)
#24. To: hondo68 (#19)
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)
You are wrong.
#26. To: jwpegler (#16)
Seattle was named after Chief Seattle -- a tribal Indian Chief. Does this have anything to do with the modern city of Seattle in the USA? Nope.
#27. To: war (#12)
Whatever school you went to...apply for a tuition refund...you got gypped. "Mexico" was named as such by the Mexicae Aztecs a few hundred years before Spaniards landed.
#28. To: lucysmom (#17)
They were an empire.
#29. To: lucysmom (#18)
It wasn't the Spaniards that built the temples.
#30. To: war (#24)
.I have to keep the font on VERY LARGE beause I refuse to wear reding glasses.
#31. To: war (#26)
Mexico existed. Period.
#32. To: sneakypete (#30)
#33. To: sneakypete (#29)
You know this is true because not a single one of them claimed to be Latin.
#34. To: war (#33)
You know this is true because not a single one of them claimed to be Latin.
#35. To: no gnu taxes (#34)
#36. To: A K A Stone (#22)
Mexico fought a war for independance beginning in 1810. They won independance in 1821. The United States was already started.
#37. To: war (#35)
So fucking what?
#38. To: sneakypete (#28)
Were they called Aztecs,or where they called Mexicans?
#39. To: war (#32)
I have Firefox on that machine.
#40. To: war (#33)
You know this is true because not a single one of them claimed to be Latin.
#41. To: sneakypete (#40)
You haven't noticed how practically every resident of 3rd world Central and south American shitholes claims to be a Latino or Latina?
#42. To: sneakypete (#39)
Windows 7 is the operating system,not the browswer.
#43. To: lucysmom (#38)
Linguistically they are linked to the Native Americans who lived in the LA basin.
#44. To: war (#41)
No if only because a good portion of South America is Portugese.
#45. To: war (#42)
(Edited)
Oh...I think it's running XP...it's old and very portable. The battery no longer charges so it has to be plugged in but I get an internet connection with it.
#46. To: sneakypete (#43)
Does that mean the Siberians are from North Dakota,or the Sioux are Russians?
#47. To: lucysmom (#46)
#48. To: sneakypete (#43)
In a related field,do you know there is a remote tribe in Siberia that has virtually the same language as the Dakota Sioux? No,it's knot the same,but you can take a resident of that remote Siberian village that still speaks the native language (not all do),sit him down on the Lakota reservation,and he and the Sioux can understand each other.
#49. To: lucysmom (#18)
(Edited)
It wasn't the Spaniards that built the temples.
I hate stupid people, like Ibluafartsky
#50. To: War (#49)
I hate stupid people, like Ibluafartsky
#51. To: jwpegler (#49)
Those were the Myans, whose "empire" covered what is now southern Mexico and Belize.
#52. To: no gnu taxes (#51)
(Edited)
Not to be a stickler, but also Guatemala and Honduras
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson
#53. To: jwpegler (#50)
#54. To: jwpegler (#52)
#55. To: war (#54)
You had to reframe the argument
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson
#56. To: jwpegler (#55)
#57. To: war (#56)
Are you claiming that there are no Mexicans in Mexico who are of Aztec or Mayan decent?
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson
#58. To: jwpegler (#57)
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