[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

"International court’s attack on Israel a sign of the free world’s moral collapse"

"Pete Hegseth Is Right for the DOD"

"Why Our Constitution Secures Liberty, Not Democracy"

Woodworking and Construction Hacks

"CNN: Reporters Were Crying and Hugging in the Hallways After Learning of Matt Gaetz's AG Nomination"

"NEW: Democrat Officials Move to Steal the Senate Race in Pennsylvania, Admit to Breaking the Law"

"Pete Hegseth Is a Disruptive Choice for Secretary of Defense. That’s a Good Thing"

Katie Britt will vote with the McConnell machine

Battle for Senate leader heats up — Hit pieces coming from Thune and Cornyn.

After Trump’s Victory, There Can Be No Unity Without A Reckoning

Vivek Ramaswamy, Dark-horse Secretary of State Candidate

Megyn Kelly has a message for Democrats. Wait for the ending.

Trump to choose Tom Homan as his “Border Czar”

"Trump Shows Demography Isn’t Destiny"

"Democrats Get a Wake-Up Call about How Unpopular Their Agenda Really Is"

Live Election Map with ticker shows every winner.

Megyn Kelly Joins Trump at His Final PA Rally of 2024 and Explains Why She's Supporting Him

South Carolina Lawmaker at Trump Rally Highlights Story of 3-Year-Old Maddie Hines, Killed by Illegal Alien

GOP Demands Biden, Harris Launch Probe into Twice-Deported Illegal Alien Accused of Killing Grayson Davis

Previously-Deported Illegal Charged With Killing Arkansas Children’s Hospital Nurse in Horror DUI Crash

New Data on Migrant Crime Rates Raises Eyebrows, Alarms

Thousands of 'potentially fraudulent voter registration applications' Uncovered, Stopped in Pennsylvania

Michigan Will Count Ballot of Chinese National Charged with Voting Illegally

"It Did Occur" - Kentucky County Clerk Confirms Voting Booth 'Glitch'' Shifted Trump Votes To Kamala

Legendary Astronaut Buzz Aldrin 'wholeheartedly' Endorses Donald Trump

Liberal Icon Naomi Wolf Endorses Trump: 'He's Being More Inclusive'

(Washed Up Has Been) Singer Joni Mitchell Screams 'F*** Trump' at Hollywood Bowl

"Analysis: The Final State of the Presidential Race"

He’ll, You Pieces of Garbage

The Future of Warfare -- No more martyrdom!

"Kamala’s Inane Talking Points"

"The Harris Campaign Is Testament to the Toxicity of Woke Politics"

Easy Drywall Patch

Israel Preparing NEW Iran Strike? Iran Vows “Unimaginable” Response | Watchman Newscast

In Logansport, Indiana, Kids are Being Pushed Out of Schools After Migrants Swelled County’s Population by 30%: "Everybody else is falling behind"

Exclusive — Bernie Moreno: We Spend $110,000 Per Illegal Migrant Per Year, More than Twice What ‘the Average American Makes’

Florida County: 41 of 45 People Arrested for Looting after Hurricanes Helene and Milton are Noncitizens

Presidential race: Is a Split Ticket the only Answer?

hurricanes and heat waves are Worse

'Backbone of Iran's missile industry' destroyed by IAF strikes on Islamic Republic

Joe Rogan Experience #2219 - Donald Trump

IDF raids Hezbollah Radwan Forces underground bases, discovers massive cache of weapons

Gallant: ‘After we strike in Iran,’ the world will understand all of our training

The Atlantic Hit Piece On Trump Is A Psy-Op To Justify Post-Election Violence If Harris Loses

Six Al Jazeera journalists are Hamas, PIJ terrorists

Judge Aileen Cannon, who tossed Trump's classified docs case, on list of proposed candidates for attorney general

Iran's Assassination Program in Europe: Europe Goes Back to Sleep

Susan Olsen says Brady Bunch revival was cancelled because she’s MAGA.

Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report

Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence.


Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

U.S. Constitution
See other U.S. Constitution Articles

Title: An Artist Protests Obama’s Abuse of the Constitution (Video)
Source: National Review
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic ... -raises-his-brush-brian-bolduc
Published: Sep 19, 2010
Author: Brian Bolduc
Post Date: 2010-09-19 12:31:01 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 151252
Comments: 144

An Artist Protests Obama’s Abuse of the Constitution (Video)

Author: Brian Bolduc

Artist & Narrator: Jon McNaughton

A man, crestfallen, is sitting on a bench in front of the White House, contemplating his country’s future. At his feet lie the causes of his distress: tattered dollars, representing a weak currency, and scraps of paper, symbolizing an abused Constitution. Behind and around him stand the 43 presidents of the United States, most of whom are outraged. One of them, James Madison, reaches pitifully for the ground, trying to collect the shards of American greatness. Unfortunately, he can’t retrieve our founding document from the dust, for it’s beneath the foot of Barack Obama.

The title of this portrait is “The Forgotten Man,” and its creator is Jon McNaughton, a 42-year-old artist from Spanish Fork, Utah. McNaughton unveiled the piece last Tuesday with a video describing its origin and a website explaining its meaning. “For a long time, I didn’t know if I wanted to paint this picture, because I worried that it might be too controversial,” McNaughton intones in the video. Now, however, he’s courting controversy.

The Forgotten Man

A husband and father of six, McNaughton graduated in 1993 from Brigham Young University, where he studied art and design. Today, he runs the McNaughton Fine Art Company, which offers mostly landscapes and Biblical images for retail. McNaughton models his work after the French Barbizon Impressionists, artists in the mid–19th century who painted scenes from the countryside in subtle shades. That said, there’s nothing subtle about his latest creation.

McNaughton first conceived of the portrait after Obamacare became law in March. “I was just frustrated with what was happening with Obama and the out-of-control spending,” he tells NRO. “As an artist, I thought this was a way to get my message out.”

What is that message? “I wondered, ‘If the presidents of the past could speak to us today, what would they say to us?’” McNaughton explains. Clearly, they would oppose the unprecedented expansion of government. Yet the focus of the painting is the forgotten man — the ordinary American. “If that man doesn’t get off his bench and try to change what’s going on in our country . . . we’re on the verge of bankruptcy. That was the point I wanted to make,” he says.

On McNaughton’s website, you can move your cursor over the faces in the painting and read an idiosyncratic summation of each president’s tenure. Yes, each of them. For instance, George Washington, who’s front and center, “instituted the First Bank of the United States in 1791.” But even Rutherford B. Hayes, who’s in the nosebleed section, gets a blurb for increasing “the government’s supply of gold.”

Working twelve-hour days, McNaughton spent five months researching the portrait, reading everything from Wikipedia to history books. “I tried to focus on the fiscal spending of these different presidents and how it has to do with the devaluing of the dollar,” he notes. “I didn’t go into civil rights or war.”

His educational forays led him to some unconventional conclusions. For example, McNaughton criticizes the Founders for their fiscal profligacy. “Our founding fathers weren’t adept at managing debt either,” he writes on the website. “In 1791, the national debt was a mere $75 million. But that is equivalent to $5.2 trillion in 2008 dollars.” To be fair to the Founders, though, a revolutionary war is kind of expensive.

Despite McNaughton’s good faith, the Left will censure him, and he knows it. He did his first overtly political portrait last October. Entitled “One Nation under God,” it shows Jesus Christ holding the Constitution while surrounded by figures from American history. The painting drove liberals bonkers. Comedian Bill Maher dubbed it “‘Where’s Waldo’ for wing nuts.”

“I did go to the Huffington Post to see what they said,” McNaughton reports. “They reminded me of a junior-high-school locker room. They all want to outdo each other with the grossest comment they can think of.”

Still, McNaughton thinks the opposition to this painting will be different. Whereas for the previous portrait, a viewer can accept Christ’s authority only on faith, in this one, “the facts are the facts. The people who trash the painting say, ‘Oh, it’s just another right-wing Republican.’ But I don’t feel my position is very threatened. I feel that the truth is just behind me.” If people object to the portrayal of Obama stepping on the Constitution, McNaughton reasons, he’ll tell them everything Obama’s done to deserve being characterized that way.

McNaughton knows his political background makes him a target. A former state delegate for the Utah Republican party, he now considers himself an independent. He left the GOP because of George W. Bush, who “ruined the Republican party.” Accordingly, in the portrait, Bush eyes the suffering man from afar — distant in location and in feeling.

But McNaughton also knows he’s got a hit. He’s already sold several prints, and his video has racked up over 170,000 views on YouTube. His video for “One Nation under God” — after spending almost a year online — has garnered more than 3 million views. At the rate “The Forgotten Man” is going, he expects it to surpass its predecessor in popularity.

“They’re quite the conversation pieces. People will have one hanging in their house and people will come in and there’s so much to talk about,” McNaughton says. In “The Forgotten Man,” McNaughton groups the presidents into two categories: those who oppose Obama’s actions, such as Washington and Madison, and those who support them, such as Franklin Roosevelt and Bill Clinton. Viewers routinely object to the placement of their favorites in either category. “It’s fun to have people talk about it,” he says.

He hopes to keep them talking. McNaughton just started a third portrait, which he plans to release by the end of the year. This one will be more religious in tone — at least, more religious than “The Forgotten Man” — though he hints that “I’ve got one painting [in mind] that might be affected depending on whether Obama runs for reelection.”

Whether or not Obama runs, McNaughton’s art has ensured that his message won’t be ignored.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD

(2 images)

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Comments (1-42) not displayed.
      .
      .
      .

#43. To: Skip Intro, AKA Stone, Brian S, mininggold, Ferret Mike, War, All (#41)

Stone keeps busy keeping the site "pure". Why not try posting articles with "nigger", "darkie", and "Obama" in the title? Those always pass the Stone test.

Stone, it appears the crybaby forum rejects need a hug!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-19   17:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: mininggold (#26)

You keep insulting me. Sometimes that seems to be your only purpose here. From now on I will probably delete posts like that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-19   17:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war (#35)

There is no doubt in my mind that you know nothing of Jesus.

Circumstance doesn't move christ. Faith does.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-19   18:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war, Murron (#1)

Jesus was a healer. Would He say "tough shit" to someone who needed health care? Would He state that people should be healed by any means necessary?

Jesus said, ‘Physician, heal yourself.’

I really am sick to death of people wearing Christ on their sleeve while being so unwilling to have a modicum of compassion for the ill that would translate into assuring that they have access to medical care.

Oh ARE you now??

I'm sick to death of Atheist-Socialists claiming to be Bible scholars and willing to steal from others to "prove" their own "compassion."

You know NOTHING of "Christian Compassion" and charity you flaming phony jackass.

Now go open up your purse and donate 60% of your net wealth and back up your own personal "compassion," Santa Marx. No? Not willing to?? No sh*t.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#1)

Why do Christians hate sick people?

We don't hate you and your sick ilk, war. We pity you and your diseased minds.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Suzanne (#2)

Apparently, it's absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong that kids with pre-existing conditions can now get health coverage. It ain't fittin'...It just ain't fittin'

And that's...Jesus' fault, huh?

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Murron, Suzanne (#3)

You really should educate yourself to the alternatives to BIG BROTHER stepping in and taking over Suzanne, no one, especially me, wants to see any child turned down for for healthcare, yourr argument sucks, and it's a lie.

Wait a minute...

Suzanne = Liberal/Leftist = LIE.

Gee, another SHOCK!!

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war, Murron (#4)

What is your solution?

To fret about it?

Not much "fretting" on the part of socialists like you when the "solution" is THEFT.

Any "solution" besides theft, Santa Marx? (that is besides blaming Christians who oppose more confiscatory taxation, and of whom ALREADY provide MORE charity to any group in the world by Light Years)

Oh that's right...It's to STEAL from others...to pay for those (including Illegal Invaders) who already STEAL from American taxpayers. That's called DOUBLE-THEFT.

Hey - heard of these three quaint commandments?:

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL

THOU SHALT NOT LIE

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S GOODS

All three are A-OK with you and your ilk.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war, Suzanne, Murron (#6)

They'll never get it.

Get a load of this LOAD.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Rudgear, war (#8)

To War:

"You are such a lying, deliberately obfuscating asshole. I am really sick of assholes on the left deliberately misrepresenting Christ and communism.

Well said.

War and his system is why this country and world bite.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone, Abu el Blowhole (#18)

Jeeze, man, ease up. That's bullshit.

WE will decide what's "bullsh*t," Bullsh*tter.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike, war, A K A Stone (#20)

He's quick to be judgmental and narrow minded. When he speaks, he sounds as intolerant and cruel as his stereotype he believes resembles the average Muslim in the world.

He talks the Christian line, but he does not walk the walk.

He's had far more patience and "tolerance" than me.

The Leftist provocateurs, commies, and chronic liars have had plenty of opportunity to exchange ideas with honesty and courtesy. But they don't and won't. NOT seeing that, are you?

Btw, you are judging Stone and his Christian faith, Mike. Really. Nice touch with the Muslim "stereotype" crack.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Abu el Banat, A K A Stone (#21)

Anyhoo, do whatever you like. It is amusing to me at least.

Jettison this Azzhole. He's useless. And he would cry when locked-out. THAT moment should be "amusing."

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#25) (Edited)

He goes zero to scary crazy in 1.1 seconds.

This world is full of religious intolerance, and the Christian contingent certainly has it's share of cultural jihadists.

You've just accomplished "scary crazy" in a nanosecond.

What crap you people engage in.

Look at 'the Order,' a group of behind the scenes fundies that work to pass laws throwing people in prison or kill them if they are not Norman Rockwell portrait grade heterosexuals. Or the Ted Haggard sort of talk trash about gays and then get meth up the rear with the help of his male masseuse.

And that indicts Christians OR "Fundies," Michael? Or is it a two-fer for you? Geez, you're inner-whacko is in 6th gear.

When they are wrong they need to be called on their B.S no matter who they are organizationally.

I'm calling you out, pal. And I don't GAS if you're an "independently organized" lone wolf...(or lone weasel in your case.)

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Liberator (#50)

Romans 13:5-7 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-09-19   18:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mininggold, A K A Stone, all (#26)

Stone the good 'Christian' deleted my truthful post about his Ziofundism and lack of following Jesus's teachings as shown by his behaviors. It's not like it's not here for everyone to see.

Notice MiningGilbey's OCD with Christian posters, "ziofundism" (that a new one you loon?) and taking ANYONE to task while invoking the name of Jesus Christ?

Your sense of ethics stand on the watery residue a pile of fresh leftist-laid diarrhea.

YOU?? MININGGOLD of ALL people... calling ANYONE out on ethics....Bwaaahaaa!!!

If it's possible to rate the three lowest-rated unethical garbage here, YOU are on the very bottom warranting ZERO respect. far below even the reptilian War and dopey Abu.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: lucysmom (#57) (Edited)

YOU - as a Marxist - can subvert the context of the Bible to suit your weaselly needs ALL you want.

Do NOT dictate "honor", "respect," and "conscience" to ME or anyone else here. Your past and present moral standing and Leftist situational ethics gives you minimal credibility.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#28) (Edited)

It seems rather obvious he has accepted Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot rather than Christ.

Hey Stone - you've been very tolerant with these liars and creepy drunks. But MG's gotta go.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: mininggold (#29)

These types always need to have someone to beat up on. Always

Can't you find a forum that will welcome your Leftist drivel, "ziofundie" paranoia and hate, and Joo-sniping? What's that? 4um won't take your garbage either?

Advice: DON'T bring your trash over to LP.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: war, Rudgear (#37)

Jesus is going to send me to hell because I want the sick healed?

You have nothing to worry about, Asbestos Crotch. You're writing your own ticket - NOT Christ.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   18:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: war, A K A Stone (#35)

War ( Atheist, Communist, Christian-hater, Conservative-loather, fiscal confiscateur, provocateur, delusionalist, synthetic intellectual, pro-abortionist, liar) to Stone:

"There is no doubt in my mind that you know nothing of Jesus."

Can't make this up.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   19:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: All, mininggold, Ferret Mike, war, Brian S, Skip Inrto, Suzanne, Abu el Banat (#0)

"One of them, James Madison, reaches pitifully for the ground, trying to collect the shards of American greatness. Unfortunately, he can’t retrieve our founding document from the dust, for it’s beneath the foot of Barack Obama".

******************************************

"Eighteen Pages": Jimmy Joe Lee

In the eighteenth century

That is when she came to be

Our Founder's cast their fate upon her

Then pledged their sacred honor

To create a country based on liberty

refrain

First they fought a revolution

Then wrote a Constitution

With the light of freedom burning bright within

There on only Eighteen Pages lies the wisdom of the ages

Treat it gently and defend it to the end

Some will point to slavery

Askin' how that's liberty

I'd say we fought a war to end it

And we're workin' hard to mend it

On the road to being what we're meant to be

Refrain:

Take a look at history

Freedom has no guarantee

Like they say if you don't use it

You're surely bound to lose it

Someone else will tell you how it's gonna be

Refrain

Now it's up to you and me

Will we give in ...or struggle free

Tell em' take their new world order

Leave it at the boarder

We don't want their statist mediocrity

Refrain

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-09-19   19:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Murron (#64)

Nice post...And the bonus is that it'll make the above pingees - ALL OF THEM - cringe, hurl, or melt like the Wicked Witch of the West.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-19   19:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Liberator (#65)

ALL OF THEM - cringe, hurl, or melt like the Wicked Witch of the West.

Good! Then I did what I set out to do....

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-09-19   19:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: All, mininggold, Ferret Mike, war, Brian S, Skip Inrto, Suzanne, Abu el Banat (#64) (Edited)

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-09-19   19:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Murron (#66)

ALL OF THEM - cringe, hurl, or melt like the Wicked Witch of the West. Good! Then I did what I set out to do....

I'm on the verge of being banned (yeah, I'm a real danger to this site), but I will say, this: I'm NOT crigning at the verses.

Instead, I'm righteous angry at insurance companies who only want to insure healthy people and the hell with anyone else--and to the politicians who support this unsustainable system. I am righteous angry at companies (like Massey and BP) who cut corners on safety and cost people's lives, but who donate heavily to candidates who want regulations lowered or eliminated. I'm righteous angry at my country being controlled by corporate interests that still think "greed is good."

Suzanne  posted on  2010-09-19   19:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Suzanne (#68)

I'm on the verge of being banned (yeah, I'm a real danger to this site), but I will say, this: I'm NOT crigning at the verses.

Instead, I'm righteous angry at insurance companies who only want to insure healthy people and the hell with anyone else--and to the politicians who support this unsustainable system. I am righteous angry at companies (like Massey and BP) who cut corners on safety and cost people's lives, but who donate heavily to candidates who want regulations lowered or eliminated. I'm righteous angry at my country being controlled by corporate interests that still think "greed is good."

Well, good for you, we do have quite a bit in common, just not how we should go about getting it.

I just hope you understand someday Suzanne, that anything of yourself you give to the feds to control, you'll never get it back, you may not suffer, but your future generations will, and I'll just bet they'll not thank you for the chains they'll be wearin...

My ancestors didn't have gubmint handouts, free housing, special interest groups, food stamps...ect, they were dirt poor, and they survived without the feds messin in every aspect of their lives, from cradle to grave....and so can I, and I am possitive I am not alone.

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-09-19   19:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Liberator (#59)

YOU - as a Marxist - can subvert the context of the Bible to suit your weaselly needs ALL you want.

Isn't that exactly what you're doing?

Do NOT dictate "honor", "respect," and "conscience" to ME or anyone else here.

I quoted the Bible to you. Why does that get your panties all in a twist?

Next, the writer seems to think that the obligation Scripture imposes upon us to help each other is purely voluntary. Well, according to Ezekiel, the failure of Sodom to hear the cry of the needy was hardly treated by God as a thing to be taken as purely voluntary. Likewise, the Parable of the Barns shows God taking very seriously the farmers failure to see that his blessings were given to be a blessing to others. We have already noted the Great Judgment of Matthew 25, again, God seemed pretty judgmental to those unwilling to care for those on the margins. The writer's thesis about voluntarism simply will not pass biblical muster.

imitatiochristi.blogs.com...7/04/christian_faith.html

lucysmom  posted on  2010-09-19   19:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#56)

I had answered, but as I finished the post, it vanished and I got a pornographic image, as Stone is playing games.

He'll delete the post anyway. Have a nice Sunday Libe, and Stone, see ya, I wouldn't want to be ya.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-19   19:47:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Rudgear (#8)

To: war

You are such a lying, deliberately obfuscating asshole. I am really sick of assholes on the left deliberately misrepresenting Christ and communism.

He misrepresents everything. His name tells you what he wants, on this forum.

war is a complete piece of shit. I wouldn't piss on his face, if he were on fire.

He'll get what's coming to him, sooner or later. As my mother-in-law says, "God watches."


Mad dog gets
"calibrated..."

The current members of the "You're a worthless sack of shit" list includes WAR, calcon, e_type_jack-off, mad-dog (more like rabidly stupid), ibluafartsky and the fascism-shill no gnu taxes (aka 400 bucks, happyfunball, 50yardline, etc, etc.) If you're on the list, don't bother writing, 'cause you're a waste of flesh.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-09-19   20:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#14) (Edited)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-09-19   20:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Murron, war, Fred Mertz, liberator, Skip Intro, Ferret Mike, lucysmom, Abu el Banat, A K A Stone (#69)

I just hope you understand someday Suzanne, that anything of yourself you give to the feds to control, you'll never get it back, you may not suffer, but your future generations will, and I'll just bet they'll not thank you for the chains they'll be wearin...

My ancestors didn't have gubmint handouts, free housing, special interest groups, food stamps...ect, they were dirt poor, and they survived without the feds messin in every aspect of their lives, from cradle to grave....and so can I, and I am possitive I am not alone.

As I said, at any moment I will be banned; I have been told. If that happens, best wishes.

So, with my departure imminent, here goes: I went to college because of the GI Bill; that was a deal I struck with the feds and they didn't take it back and, goodness knows, they don't control my thoughts. Instead, it was a win-win. I now earn more money and pay more taxes than I would of if stuck in pink-collar hell. Oh, and, yeah, two years I even qualified for a Pell Grant (another government program; and I have repaid the amount of the Pell Grant over and over through taxes, and to this day, I remain grateful to that program—and I like the changes that Obama has brought to that program [cutting out the middle man who simply tacked on fees]).

As for debt, generally I'm opposed to it. I want young people--starting from elementary school--to be taught how to make good choices with money and the evils of credit cards. (I want Ben Stein to teach this kind of class.) That being said, there are times when people have to go into debt. If the only thing standing between you and a job interview is an interview outfit, then I'd say "buy the damn suit" preferably from a consignment store (and, just in case Stone is monitoring, that's one of the very few times [if any] that I've used profanity on his site).

I don't like government debt much, either. I didn't like it that GWB waged two unfunded wars (debt to be repaid in the future). Combine that with simultaneous tax cuts and it's like an individual running up a huge credit card tab while donating lots to charity--or to a mistress. It doesn't add up.

I didn't like it when the financial industry was deregulated (and both Democrats and Republicans are on the hook for that one--although the Republicans were really pushing it along). We were already in trouble and the housing bubble put us at the very brink. I still don't see Republicans and even Tea Partiers talking about how deregulation catapulted us toward disaster. Even Ben Stein has said that for decades now, Wall Street investors have behaved like wild, out of control fraternity boys drunk on money and power. Yet, I see many Tea Party candidates saying that we should end Social Security--just so we can trust those Wall Street frat boys with our precious retirement dollars.

The fact that we haven't fallen into a full-blown depression amazes me (although we're still fragile). And, if the Tea Party is so upset about fiscal irresponsibility, where was it when George W. went on a drunken sailor's spending spree? Where?

Am I content with everything that Obama has done? Certainly not, but I will say I think he's trying to keep us out of a depression. Are we going to be in debt a long time, YES. George W. started us on that path and we are going to be on it for a while, just like a person who has run up a credit card bill to insane amounts is going to face a long repayment period. Has Obama made it all better? Certainly not, but it's been such a short time. I am more than willing to consider other options if I heard actual IDEAS--not platitudes like "Do You Love Your Freedom." I want ideas...boring, dull, but meticulously thought-out ideas on these major issues. What is the Republican plan to bring back jobs, deal with what had been an unsustainable health care system, and end the war in Afghanistan? What is the Tea Party approach to these same topics? I want specifics!

Oh, and since I'm on the verge of banning, let me just say (because I know it will really make some people angry), my father belonged to a union. Because he belonged to a union, we got to live a few blocks away from a ghetto. I got a decent public school education and the ghetto kids got crap. And, for a final nail in my coffin, I never had an abortion because I got information and actual birth control (the pill) from PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

Suzanne  posted on  2010-09-19   20:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Fred Mertz (#73)

That's an improvement over your normal posts, jerx.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-19   20:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Suzanne (#74)

As I said, at any moment I will be banned; I have been told.

I never had an abortion because I got information and actual birth control (the pill) from PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

By whom?

Should we be grateful?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-19   21:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator (#61) (Edited)

Can't you find a forum that will welcome your Leftist drivel, "ziofundie" paranoia and hate, and Joo-sniping? What's that? 4um won't take your garbage either?

Advice: DON'T bring your trash over to LP.

Why, has it become a CHRINO for Borderlines site too? LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-19   21:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Suzanne (#74)

Why don't you go back to that one thread. And answer the question. Then I will finish answering yours. You will get an answer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-19   21:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Suzanne (#74)

Oh, and since I'm on the verge of banning, let me just say (because I know it will really make some people angry), my father belonged to a union.

My dad did too.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-09-19   21:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Fred Mertz, Suzanne (#79)

So did my dad, and my grandfather hired his employees from the union hall.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-09-19   21:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: A K A Stone (#45)

Bull. God is the Alpha and the Omega.

He doesn't need faith. He demands it from others. Want the passages that prove it?

war  posted on  2010-09-19   21:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Ferret Mike (#71)

He'll delete the post anyway. Have a nice Sunday Libe, and Stone, see ya, I wouldn't want to be ya.

Stoners posting porn now? I think I'll notify the Palin campaign of the antics done in her name.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-19   21:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



      .
      .
      .

Comments (83 - 144) not displayed.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Please report web page problems, questions and comments to webmaster@libertysflame.com