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Title: Republican Senator Holds Up Food Safety Bill …Is Reducing The Deficit More Important Than Preventing Contaminated Food From Being Sold?
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Tucson Citizen
URL Source: http://tucsoncitizen.com/view-from- ... aminated-food-from-being-sold/
Published: Sep 17, 2010
Author: Tucson Citizen
Post Date: 2010-09-17 14:50:31 by Brian S
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Comments: 31
This interesting bit of news from the Washington Post: GOP Senator Tom Coburn from Oklahoma is holding up a food saftey bill because he’s afraid it will add to the deficit. All the more reason to have home gardens and raise your own chickens…. GOP senator says he will hold up food safety bill WASHINGTON — A Republican senator is threatening to hold up food safety legislation that would give the Food and Drug Administration more power to prevent outbreaks, saying Democrats must find a way to pay for it.
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
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The GOP spent $1trliion on a war that has done nothing but turn the world against us..they were never worried about paying for that.
no gnu taxes just told us that reducing the deficit wasn't important. did you guys not get the memo?
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Bush would veto any bill drafted by House Democratic leaders that would fund the Iraq war only into summer, his spokesman said Wednesday, even as the Pentagon held out hope that troops could begin withdrawing if the Iraqi government makes progress by fall. Defense Secretary Robert Gates told a Senate committee that if violence in Iraq declines enough to allow the government to move forward, including steps toward political reconciliation, the U.S. could begin pulling troops out. . . . Gates also told the panel that proposals for a short-term funding bill would be very disruptive and “have a huge impact” on contracts to repair and replace equipment. The Defense Department, he said, just doesn’t “have the agility to manage a two month appropriation.” “I essentially have 10,000 faucets all running money,” Gates said. “Turning them on and off with precision and on a day-to-day basis, or even a month-to- month basis, gets very difficult.” And, he said that if Congress votes again in July, but rejects the funding bill, “I would have to shut down significant elements of the Department of Defense in August and September because I wouldn’t have the money to pay salaries.”
He's jumping the gun a bit, isn't he? He's supposed to wait until the Republicans take over to say that.
How the hell did we survive before the FDA existed?
Sure, this is a food "safety" bill just like the "stimulus" was a "jobs bill". The charade is over.
It takes Europe and Japan a fraction of the time it takes Americans to approve new drugs. There are helpful drugs on the market in Europe and Japan that have been outlawed in the U.S. Is there a big difference in the number people who die from drug side effects in the U.S., Europe, and Japan??? NOPE. We waste time and money for no reason. I've been to 26 counties. I've been to many of those countries 5, 10, 20 or more times. In some respects, America is still the greatest country in the world. In other respects, America is the most screwed up country in the entire world.
We wouldn't have contaminated food if they didn't have illegal third-world types processing food. Look at where most of the produce is grown anymore; Chile, Mexico, Central America. You import the turd-world here by the thousands, you're going to get the standards they grew up with.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
Many people didn't. That's why we have an FDA. I gotta love republican thinking. Fighting a war install social welfare states in countries of people they hate is small government. Regulating food safety is totally unnecessary bureaucracy
Ever read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle?
Complete horse shit. Leftist power mongers site small statics, out of context, to create problems where there are none. They do this to gain power for themselves. The fact is that the FDA does more harm than good because it drives up the costs of bringing life saving medicines to market and it also prohibits life saving medicines from entering the market that are on the market in Europe and Japan. The Europeans and Japanese DO NOT die more frequently from bad drugs than Americans. We waste time and money for no reason. The U.S. has the most screwed up government in the entire developed world. It's time that change.
I don't "love" socialist thinking or programs. You obviously do.
Leftist power mongers site small statics, out of context, to create problems where there are none. They do this to gain power for themselves. The fact is that the FDA does more harm than good because it drives up the costs of bringing life saving medicines to market and it also prohibits life saving medicines from entering the market that are on the market in Europe and Japan. The Europeans and Japanese DO NOT die more frequently from bad drugs than Americans. We waste time and money for no reason. The U.S. has the most screwed up government in the entire developed world. It's time that change. What kind of education did you have that you haven't even read The Jungle?
Read it. The FDA may have been great at it's conception. MAY have been. But now it's just another political office full of political whores.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Venison, anyone? ;-) It's better than beef. Just had elk steak and elk burgers the other night. Yummy.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
The U.S has the BEST government in the entire developed world. We have the most screwed up people in positions of power fucking up the best government in the entire developed world.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
We have the most screwed up people in positions of power fucking up the best government in the entire developed world. Point taken. You are correct.
A more modern education than 1906 when the Jungle was written, including numerous trips to more than 25 countries in Europe, Asia and Latin America. Dude, you are living in the past. Put the joint down, clear the smoke, and take a look at reality.
Same view here.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
The stimulus bill was exactly that. Designed to stimulate economic activity. A jobs bill is a micro bill. A stimulus is a macro bill. Maybe you SHOULD have gone to public school. Those tutors taught you dick.
A more modern education than 1906 when the Jungle was written, including numerous trips to more than 25 countries in Europe, Asia and Latin America. Dude, you are living in the past. Put the joint down, clear the smoke, and take a look at reality. The Jungle explains the reasons the FDA was created. Which is why I asked after someone said there was no reason for the FDA. There absolutely was. The only reason we are living in the past in re: to food safety is because of the FDA. Furthermore with tainted food from Mexico and China, that need still exists. Visiting the world isn't an education it's a holiday.
And it was a miserable failure. The only thing it "stimulated" were the salivary glans of power hungry politicians and government bureaucrats.
Maybe failure was a word you failed to learn. Ask your buddy Nebby...he has a fine and dandy chart which proves that the stim worked.
What the F does that mean? Oh, I know. It means you can no longer defend this nonsense but you are too proud to admit that you were wrong.
You don't think that the Europeans and Japanese regulate food and drugs too? Of course they do. They also have life saving drugs on the market that the United States has outlawed. There are NOT higher death rates from bad food and drugs in Europe and Japan than there are in the U.S. The U.S. government is run by blithering idiots at the behest of extremist cranks, all of who are scared to death of trail lawyers. That's the problem in a nutshell.
Growth has turned positive...we are no longer bleeding jobs...all incipient evidence puts to a) we've at worst troughed or b) turned slightly upward and that c) both the stim and the bailouts worked. So, why not tell me - with you vast store of internationally attained knowledge - what you believe should ahve been done in Jan and Feb of last year and what the results today would have been. In other words, buck up. Let's hear YOUR plan as of 1/09.
Not wanting to sound cynical or anything, but maybe if the FDA were privatized the GOP would feel better about spending the money.
465,000 new jobless claims last week is not bleeding jobs? As I've been saying, the three month long "recovery" was over in July. Next year will be much worse unless 3 things happen: A.) the GOP gains control of Congress, B.) the GOP has actually learned their lesson and embarks on a program of spending cuts and tax simplification, and C.) Obama goes along to save his Presidency. Otherwise, we're screwed.
No one was hired last week?
Almost no one...
Why have we been net positive or close to positive in NFP then?
WASHINGTON -- A Republican senator is threatening to hold up food safety legislation that would give the Food and Drug Administration more power to prevent outbreaks, saying Democrats must find a way to pay for it.
#2. To: war, brian s (#1)
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#3. To: Brian S (#0)
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#4. To: go65 (#2)
no gnu taxes just told us that reducing the deficit wasn't important. did you guys not get the memo?
#5. To: Brian S (#0)
#6. To: Brian S (#0)
the era of big government is over -- Bill Clinton
#7. To: Ibluafartsky (#5)
(Edited)
How the hell did we survive before the FDA existed?
the era of big government is over -- Bill Clinton
#8. To: Brian S (#0)
#9. To: Ibluafartsky (#5)
How the hell did we survive before the FDA existed?
#10. To: Rudgear (#8)
We wouldn't have contaminated food if they didn't have illegal third-world types processing food.
#11. To: Rhino (#9)
(Edited)
Many people didn't. That's why we have an FDA.
the era of big government is over -- Bill Clinton
#12. To: Rhino (#9)
#13. To: jwpegler (#11)
Complete horse shit.
#14. To: Rhino (#13)
(Edited)
What kind of education did you have that you haven't even read The Jungle?
#15. To: Rhino (#13)
What kind of education did you have that you haven't even read The Jungle?
#16. To: jwpegler (#11)
The U.S. has the most screwed up government in the entire developed world. It's time that change.
#17. To: Wood_Chopper (#16)
The U.S has the BEST government in the entire developed world.
I hate stupid people, like Ibluafartsky
#18. To: Rhino (#13)
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What kind of education did you have that you haven't even read The Jungle?
I hate stupid people, like Ibluafartsky
#19. To: jwpegler (#6)
#20. To: jwpegler (#6)
#21. To: jwpegler (#18)
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#22. To: war (#20)
The stimulus bill was exactly that. Designed to stimulate economic activity...
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson
#23. To: jwpegler (#22)
#24. To: war (#23)
Maybe failure was a word you failed to learn.
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson
#25. To: Rhino (#21)
the FDA
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson
#26. To: jwpegler (#24)
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#27. To: war (#1)
The GOP spent $1trliion on a war that has done nothing but turn the world against us..they were never worried about paying for that.
#28. To: war (#26)
we are no longer bleeding jobs
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson
#29. To: jwpegler (#28)
465,000 new jobless claims last week is not bleeding jobs?
#30. To: war (#29)
No one was hired last week?
democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not -- Thomas Jefferson
#31. To: jwpegler (#30)
Almost no one...
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