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Title: The Tax Cut Racket
Source: The NY Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/o ... 7krugman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
Published: Sep 17, 2010
Author: Paul Krugman
Post Date: 2010-09-17 08:37:19 by war
Keywords: None
Views: 39728
Comments: 67

“Nice middle class you got here,” said Mitch McConnell, the Senate minority leader. “It would be a shame if something happened to it.”

O.K., he didn’t actually say that. But he might as well have, because that’s what the current confrontation over taxes amounts to. Mr. McConnell, who was self-righteously denouncing the budget deficit just the other day, now wants to blow that deficit up with big tax cuts for the rich. But he doesn’t have the votes. So he’s trying to get what he wants by pointing a gun at the heads of middle-class families, threatening to force a jump in their taxes unless he gets paid off with hugely expensive tax breaks for the wealthy.

Most discussion of the tax fight focuses either on the economics or on the politics — both of which suggest that Democrats should hang tough, for their own sakes as well as that of the country. But there’s an even bigger issue here — namely, the question of what constitutes acceptable behavior in American political life. Politics ain’t beanbag, but there’s a difference between playing hardball and engaging in outright extortion, which is what Mr. McConnell is now doing. And if he succeeds, it will set a disastrous precedent.

How did we get to this point? The proximate answer lies in the tactics the Bush administration used to push through tax cuts. The deeper answer lies in the radicalization of the Republican Party, its transformation into a movement willing to put the economy and the nation at risk for the sake of partisan victory.

So, about those tax cuts: back in 2001, the Bush administration bundled huge tax cuts for wealthy Americans with much smaller tax cuts for the middle class, then pretended that it was mainly offering tax breaks to ordinary families. Meanwhile, it circumvented Senate rules intended to prevent irresponsible fiscal actions — rules that would have forced it to find spending cuts to offset its $1.3 trillion tax cut — by putting an expiration date of Dec. 31, 2010, on the whole bill. And the witching hour is now upon us. If Congress doesn’t act, the Bush tax cuts will turn into a pumpkin at the end of this year, with tax rates reverting to Clinton-era levels.

In response, President Obama is proposing legislation that would keep tax rates essentially unchanged for 98 percent of Americans but allow rates on the richest 2 percent to rise. But Republicans are threatening to block that legislation, effectively raising taxes on the middle class, unless they get tax breaks for their wealthy friends.

That’s an extraordinary step. Almost everyone agrees that raising taxes on the middle class in the middle of an economic slump is a bad idea, unless the effects are offset by other job-creation programs — and Republicans are blocking those, too. So the G.O.P. is, in effect, threatening to plunge the U.S. economy back into recession unless Democrats pay up.

What kind of political party would engage in that kind of brinksmanship? The answer is the same kind of party that shut down the federal government in 1995 in an attempt to force President Bill Clinton to accept steep cuts in Medicare, and is actively discussing doing the same to Mr. Obama. So, as I said, the deeper explanation of the tax-cut fight is that it’s ultimately about a radicalized Republican Party, which accepts no limits on partisanship.

So should Democrats give in?

On the economics, the answer is a clear no. Right now, fears about budget deficits are overblown — but that doesn’t mean that we should completely ignore deficit concerns. And the G.O.P. plan would add hugely to the deficit — about $700 billion over the next decade — while doing little to help the economy. On any kind of cost-benefit analysis, this is an idea not worth considering.

And, by the way, a compromise solution — temporary tax breaks for the rich — is no better; it would cost less, but it would also do even less for the economy.

On the politics, the answer is also a clear no. Polls show that a majority of Americans are opposed to maintaining tax breaks for the rich. Beyond that, this is no time for Democrats to play it safe: if the midterm election were held today, they would lose badly. They need to highlight their differences with the G.O.P. — and it’s hard to think of a better place for them to take a stand than on the issue of big giveaways to Wall Street and corporate C.E.O.’s.

But what’s even more important is the principle of the thing. Threats to punish innocent bystanders unless your political rivals give you what you want have no legitimate place in democratic politics. Giving in to such threats would be an economic and political mistake, but more important, it would be morally wrong — and it would encourage more such threats in the future.

It’s time for Democrats to take a stand, and say no to G.O.P. blackmail.

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#1. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Priest Doodle?

war  posted on  2010-09-17   8:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#0)

You know, war, we have the head of the Senate Ag Committee, Blanche, who's about to get here ass handed to her.

We've screamed at her for four years.

A wise man told me that Blanche has been betrayed by her closest 'staff/advisors'.

But you gotta be bone head stupid to listen to bad advice like that in the first place.

I really think we've reached the point where every Caesar grabs everything for him/her/self and died in office.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-17   9:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#2) (Edited)

Until we figure out a way to keep government figures from profiting for being government figures, we're going to have this every cycle...

war  posted on  2010-09-17   9:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#0)

poll after poll shows that the majority of the public supports extending the tax cuts for only the first $250k of income, this is a winning issue for the Democrats.


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-09-17   9:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#4)

There are a lot of winning issues.

GOP wants government to do less. The voters want the government to do more.

Seems fairly straight forward to me.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   9:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#3)

Until we figure out a way to keep government figures from profiting for being government figures, we're going to have this every cycle...

And this will happen by frequent turn over now.

And failure at the periphery. Like, how will the American people be informed of their Failure at Stalingrad?

Kabul Press, September 16, 2010

Taliban leader Mullah Omar’s announcement on September 8, 2010, that the Taliban was close to victory against NATO should not be dismissed. The Taliban have the military capacity to shut down the NATO supply links to Pakistan and other adjoining countries. NATO and American forces have such exorbitant daily supply needs that the Taliban could force some or potentially most Western forces to retreat from Afghanistan within 30 days.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-17   9:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

An aside. And it's gotta be tough to be sending 'normal' shipments thru the ravaged Pakistan Indus to Afghanistan, with or w/o Taliban attacks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-17   9:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#4)

poll after poll shows that the majority of the public supports extending the tax cuts for only the first $250k of income, this is a winning issue for the Democrats.

which poll would that be, i'd like to see something to back up your claim,

the majority of americans aren't into the class warfare crap you dems try and pull each election.

calcon  posted on  2010-09-17   11:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war, go65 (#5)

GOP wants government to do less. The voters want the government to do more.

the tit's gone dry libs and your bloated, ineffective government has sucked it dry.

calcon  posted on  2010-09-17   11:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: calcon (#8) (Edited)

Fifty- three percent of Americans agree with Mr. Obama that the tax cuts for the wealthy should be allowed to expire, while 38 percent do not, according to the poll, conducted Sept. 10-14...

>~~~~~~~

A new Pew Research Center Pew Research/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll indicates the public's divided, with 29 percent saying tax cuts for all Americans should be extended, an equal amount saying tax cuts for the wealthy should be repealed but kept for everyone else, 28 percent saying roll back the cuts for everyone, and 14 percent didn't know.

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-- A majority of Americans favor letting the tax cuts enacted during the Bush administration expire for the wealthy. While 37% support keeping the tax cuts for all Americans, 44% want them extended only for those making less than $250,000 and 15% think they should expire for all taxpayers.

>~~~~~~~

an Associated Press-GfK poll shows that 54% of Americans support raising taxes on the highest earners, with 44% against it.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   11:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: calcon (#9)

I agree.

Read any article tho and Americans, in unison, want the government to do more. The GOP message is that they'll do less.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   11:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: calcon (#9)

Yep.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-09-17   11:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#4)

poll after poll shows that the majority of the public supports extending the tax cuts for only the first $250k of income, this is a winning issue for the Democrats.

Assuming the Democrats are competent enough to take advantage of it. So far, I've seen no evidence of that.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-17   11:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Skip Intro (#13) (Edited)

Nor will you. They'll punt every opportunity that they are given.

The GOP still runs, with some success, against Jimmy Carter.

No one remembers Larry Craig.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   11:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#0)

the Bush administration bundled huge tax cuts for wealthy Americans with much smaller tax cuts for the middle class, then pretended that it was mainly offering tax breaks to ordinary families.

Krugman is a fucking dumbass. As a percentage of income, the middle class got substantially bigger tax cuts.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   11:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: no gnu taxes (#15)

Krugman is a fucking dumbass.

Relative of yours?

And BULLSHIT.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   11:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#16)

Myth The Bush tax cuts were tilted toward the rich.

Fact: The rich are now shouldering even more of the income tax burden.

Popular mythology also suggests that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts shifted more of the tax burden toward the poor. While high-income households did save more in actual dollars than low-income households, they did so because low-income households pay so little in income taxes in the first place. The same 1 percent tax cut will save more dollars for a millionaire than it will for a middle-class worker simply because the millionaire paid more taxes before the tax cut.

The Bush Tax Cuts Shifted the Tax Burden Further Toward the Rich

In 2000, the top 60 percent of taxpayers paid 100 percent of all income taxes. The bottom 40 percent collectively paid no income taxes. Lawmakers writing the 2001 tax cuts faced quite a challenge in giving the bulk of the income tax savings to a population that was already paying no income taxes.

Rather than exclude these Americans, lawmakers used the tax code to subsidize them. (Some economists would say this made that group's collective tax burden negative.)First, lawmakers lowered the initial tax brackets from 15 percent to 10 percent and then expanded the refundable child tax credit, which, along with the refundable earned income tax credit (EITC), reduced the typical low-income tax burden to well below zero. As a result, the U.S. Treasury now mails tax "refunds" to a large proportion of these Americans that exceed the amounts of tax that they actually paid. All in all, the number of tax filers with zero or negative income tax liability rose from 30 million to 40 million, or about 30 percent of all tax filers. The remaining 70 percent of tax filers received lower income tax rates, lower investment taxes, and lower estate taxes from the 2001 legislation.

Consequently, from 2000 to 2004, the share of all individual income taxes paid by the bottom 40 percent dropped from zero percent to –4 percent, meaning that the average family in those quintiles received a subsidy from the IRS. By contrast, the share paid by the top quintile of households (by income) increased from 81 percent to 85 percent.

Expanding the data to include all federal taxes, the share paid by the top quintile edged up from 66.6 percent in 2000 to 67.1 percent in 2004, while the bottom 40 percent's share dipped from 5.9 percent to 5.4 percent. Clearly, the tax cuts have led to the rich shouldering more of the income tax burden and the poor shouldering less.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   11:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: no gnu taxes (#17)

Please Pudding...you have had this cut and paste job - that you no longer source - debunked so many times it's hilarious that you'd try to promote it.

The top 1% got every tax cut that the lower brackets got and then benefitted from the cutting of the top bracket too.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   12:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#18)

Please Pudding...you have had this cut and paste job - that you no longer source - debunked so many times it's hilarious that you'd try to promote it.

It's never been "debunked," because it's fact.

Lowering the bottom bracket benefitted the poor and middle class mush more than the rich because the savings represented a much greater portion of their income. Same with the removal of the marriage penalty, and the child credit.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   12:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: no gnu taxes (#19) (Edited)

It's never been "debunked," because it's fact.

BULLSHIT.

Lowering the bottom bracket benefitted the poor and middle class mush more than the rich

BULLSHIT. We have a PROGRESSIVE tax system, puddin'. EVERYONE who pays taxes benefitted from the lowering or elimination of brackets.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   12:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Skip Intro (#13)

Assuming the Democrats are competent enough to take advantage of it. So far, I've seen no evidence of that.

you have a point. :-)


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-09-17   12:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: no gnu taxes (#19)

Distribution of Tax-Cut Benefits

The benefits that the tax cuts provide to different groups vary dramatically. New data from the TaxPolicyCenter show the effects in 2004 of the tax cuts that have already been enacted, including the corporate and estate tax cuts, as well as the individual income tax cuts. The TaxPolicyCenter data show that the combined effect of the tax cuts in 2004 is as follows:

Ã2;The one-fifth of households in the middle of the income spectrum will receive an average tax cut of $647.

Ã2;The top one percent of households will receive tax cuts averaging almost $35,000 — or 54 times as much as that received on average by those in the middle of the income spectrum.

Ã2;Households with incomes above $1 million will receive tax cuts averaging about $123,600. The tax cuts for millionaires will cause their after-tax income to jump by 6.4 percent, nearly three times the percentage increase received by the middle fifth. The overall shares of the tax cuts that are going to different households also are illuminating. The TaxPolicyCenter data show that:

Ã2;In 2004, the middle 20 percent of households will receive 8.9 percent of the tax cuts.

Ã2;By contrast, millionaires — totaling just 0.2 percent of U.S. households — will receive 15.3 percent of the tax cuts.[3] In other words, the small handful of millionaires will receive total tax cuts far larger than those received by the entire middle 20 percent of households.

Ã2;The tax cuts will confer more than $30 billion on the nation’s 257,000 millionaires in 2004 alone.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   12:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#18) (Edited)

Liberal Think Tank Destroys Myth Bush Tax Cuts Favored Rich (unwittingly)

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/08/11/liberal-think-tank-destroys-media-myth-bush-tax-cuts-favored-rich

So, let's put all the pieces together.

According to Treasury, the total ten-year cost of completely extending the Bush tax cuts is $3.675 trillion. The ten-year cost exclusively associated with extending tax cuts to folks Obama, the Democrats, and the media consider rich is $679 billion.

This means that almost $3 trillion of the cost associated with the Bush tax cuts over the next ten years, or 82 percent, is not for benefits to the so-called rich.

As such, despite what the Left and their media minions have been claiming, 82 percent of the Bush tax cuts benefited the poor, middle-class, and upper-middle class in this country.

And, despite the preceding appearing at a conservative website, this data was originally published by a division of a liberal think tank.

As the media love quoting reports from the Brookings Institution, I'm sure we'll see this information splashed all over a TV set near you in the coming days...but I wouldn't hold my breath!

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   12:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#18)

The top 1% got every tax cut that the lower brackets got and then benefitted from the cutting of the top bracket too.

I swear that Republicans have absolutely no clue how the tax brackets work. Those making over $250k still keep Bush-era rates on the first $250k of income. Even Bill Gates gets the same cut as anyone making $250k or less.


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-09-17   12:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: no gnu taxes, war, skip intro (#19)

Lowering the bottom bracket benefitted the poor and middle class mush more than the rich because the savings represented a much greater portion of their income. Same with the removal of the marriage penalty, and the child credit.

So if lowering the top tax bracket didn't help the rich all that much, then it's no big deal to repeal that part of the tax cut, right?

::Checkmate::


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-09-17   12:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: no gnu taxes (#23) (Edited)

BULLSHIT.

The Bush Tax Cuts: If we ignore how the cuts are paid for, who benefits from them? [or what TPC ACTUALLY stated]

If the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts were made permanent and the number of taxpayers subject to the alternative minimum tax were held at levels that would have prevailed under pre-2001 law, about 73 percent of tax-filing units would receive a direct tax cut in 2010; that share rises with income, from only 16 percent of units in the bottom income quintile to more than 99 percent in the top quintile. This, however, is not a complete picture of the ultimate impact of the tax cuts, because it does not take into account the tax increases or spending cuts that will eventually be needed to pay for the tax cuts. That accounting is presented in another entry.

Ã2;The percentage change in after-tax income, TPC’s preferred measure for comparing the benefits of tax cuts across income groups, rises under this scenario as income rises, from an increase of 0.3 percent in after-tax income in the bottom quintile (see table) to a rise of 4.3 percent in the top quintile. It rises even further within the top quintile, with a 6.4 percent increase for the top 1 percent and a 7.5 percent increase for the top 0.1 percent (not shown). Thus the tax cuts would be regressive, raising after- tax income by a greater percentage for high-income households than for all others.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   12:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#26)

The Bush Tax Cuts: If we ignore how the cuts are paid for, who benefits from them?

Go ahead and let folks like Gnu argue that the rich didn't really benefit from the Bush tax cuts. It makes it easier to justify letting that portion of the Bush cuts expire. :-)


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-09-17   12:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#27)

Chyea...doh...

war  posted on  2010-09-17   12:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: go65 (#25)

So if lowering the top tax bracket didn't help the rich all that much, then it's no big deal to repeal that part of the tax cut, right?

Except we are in an Obama Depression, and it's foolhardy to think that would have no affect on the economy.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   12:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: no gnu taxes (#29)

Well...if they were negligent how would did they affect it when they were enacted?

war  posted on  2010-09-17   12:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#26)

Ha Ha Ha

That certainly doesn't coincide with where they say revenue losses would be coming from.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   12:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#30)

Well...if they were negligent how would did they affect it when they were enacted?

Tell me what language that was posted in so I can put it in Babel fish and translate it.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   12:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: no gnu taxes (#31) (Edited)

C'mon Paddy...do I really need to point out how cleverly worded your bullshit "analysis" is?

The ten-year cost exclusively associated with extending tax cuts to folks Obama, the Democrats, and the media consider rich is $679 billion.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   12:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: no gnu taxes (#32)

Tell me what language that was posted in so I can put it in Babel fish and translate it.

Goddammit...someone stoled my log in!!!!

I think what that person was trying to say - and I'm guessing here - was: Well...if the tax cuts for the wealthy were so small how could they affect the economy when they were enacted? .

war  posted on  2010-09-17   12:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#33)

to folks Obama, the Democrats, and the media consider rich

It's people making over 250,000 dollars a year, is it not?

I don't know offhand what percentage of total taxes paid this group represents, but I will be it's more than 18%, which is the supposed "revenue cost" that their tax cut represents.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   13:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: no gnu taxes (#35)

It's people making over 250,000 dollars a year, is it not?

You tell me. You posted the statement.

war  posted on  2010-09-17   13:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: war (#36)

couples making over $250,000 and individuals making more than $200,000:

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-09-17   13:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: no gnu taxes (#37)

The author is quoting two different sources and making it seem as one...

war  posted on  2010-09-17   13:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: no gnu taxes, war (#29)

Except we are in an Obama Depression, and it's foolhardy to think that would have no affect on the economy.

Isn't it fool hardy to think that the money wouldn't be better used to reduce the deficit?

After all, you keep arguing about the evil of deficits, and now you argue that the tax cuts above $250k in income aren't that big of deal, so why not use that $600 billion or so to reduce the deficit?

Can we agree on that?


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-09-17   14:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: no gnu taxes (#37)

couples making over $250,000 and individuals making more than $200,000:

It's on income over $250k, the first $250k of income would continue to be taxed at the current rate.

The reporting on this issue is downright awful. Those making over $250k a year would STILL pay the lower rates on the first $250k of income.


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-09-17   14:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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