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Title: I've Decided. Burn that Piece of Shit they Call the Koran
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Published: Sep 10, 2010
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2010-09-11 00:01:36 by A K A Stone
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Views: 264054
Comments: 290

The Koran is a text from Satan. It ruins people and makes them evil. Burn that evil piece of shit book. Burn them all. Wipe your ass with them. Piss on them. Spit on them. Rip the pages out and line your bird cage with it. It is not a holy book.

Muslim, Muslim Gettin Even All right I got something to say Yeah, it's better to burn Korans Yeah, than to let them stay All right Ow Gonna start a fire C'mon! Rise up! gather round Take the Koran throw it to the ground Burn it up let's go for broke Watch the night go up in smoke

Burn on, Burn On

Drive muzzies crazier, no serenade No fire brigade, just Pyromania

What do you want? What do you want? I want Koran To Burn, yes I do Long live The Bible

Oh let's go, let's strike a light We're gonna blow like dynamite I don't care if it takes all night Gonna set this book alight

What do you want? What do you want? I want The Koran To Burn, All right! Long live The Bible

Rock of ages, rock of ages Still smokin', keep a-smokin' Rock of ages, rock of ages Still blazin', Really Blazin'

We got the power, got the glory Just say you need it and if you need it Say yeah!

Heh heh heh heh Now listen to me It's Burnin', Burnin', I got the fever I know for sure, there ain't no cure So feel it, don't fight it, go with the flow Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme some charcoal

What do you want? What do you want? I want That Koran To Burn, You betcha Long live The Bible

We're gonna burn this damn book down Down to the ground

Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh

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#251. To: go65, A K A Stone (#250)

You conservatives think that government ought to tell women what they can and can't do,

It appears go65 - like 99% of all liberals - objects to "telling women" which unborn baby they can and can't execute with forceps, and drill with a baby brain-sucking device. The abortionist liberal executioners and their enablers also object to being "told" which trash can the infant corpses should be discarded in.

The nerve of those pro-life, baby-saving conservatives.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-12   21:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: A K A Stone, go65, war (#242)

You liberals think some people are sub human and subject to execution without due process.

Especially if they're helpless preborn infants who can't "choose" to voice their objection to being murdered in the womb.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-12   21:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: Ferret Mike (#248)

Most religions Like Islam, Christianity and Judaism are more concerned with social control then anything else. It would be hypocritical to just go after Islam.

If we really wanted to free people, we would kill those with the most power and capital assets, ban these festering sores on the butt of humanity these religions that pacify and control people to allow the theft and enslavement that you mention examples of you find with Islam.

Mikey Mac - Can you provide for us ANY case of an existing Christian theocracy on this entire planet? (and DON'T cite "The Vatican!!")

Thanks.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-12   21:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: Ferret Mike (#248)

I am not going to hit the alligator I see swimming around my boat with my oar and leave the piranha and anaconda alone.

Why don't you consider Secular Humanism as the religion (besides Islam) creating the most havoc?

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-12   21:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: go65 (#250)

and that the government ought to have the ability to arrest and detain US citizens, torture them, and hold them indefinitely without due process.

I'm conservative. I think what you said is wrong and evil. I condemn torturing anyone. I don't think anyone should be held indefinitely. I think that the court that Bush set up is/was unconstitutional. I think that is a black eye on our system.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-12   21:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: go65 (#249) (Edited)

Conservatives want to remove due process, arguing that the government should have unfettered power to arrest and detain U.S. citizens without due process or access to counsel.

No conservative ever wanted less civil liberties. Your neo-con brethren claiming to be "compassionate conservatives" (statists), and their Dem "Progressive" counterparts the neo-libs" (statists), jack booted big government lib-tards, one and all. There's not a dimes worth of difference between D&R elites.

Rank and file, is a whole different story. That's why there are so many cross over, and independent voters. The silent majority intensely dislikes both of the top two parties.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-09-12   21:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: Liberator, Ferret Mike (#253) (Edited)

"Mikey Mac - Can you provide for us ANY case of an existing Christian theocracy on this entire planet? (and DON'T cite "The Vatican!!")

The fairy godfather of the islamic gay mafia here, will not, because he cannot, provide anything existing in the everyday lives of a Christian that could be remotlely compared to the savagery practiced on a daily basis in islamic country's.

And how in the hell can 'too stupid to live' here, get his panyhose in such a wad over the 'social control' of religions, but advocate the 'socialistic control' over our assets?

We live in a nation where a man, or woman, can earn as little, or as much as they want and call it theirs, that's Capitalism.

Mike represents what I would call a festering sore on the butt of humanity, and an enemy to my country, and a danger to my childrens future, and I despise him for that.

If my ancestors were still living, they'd pop that g-damn lazy susan but good!

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-09-12   21:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: Liberator (#253)

"Can you provide for us ANY case of an existing Christian theocracy on this entire planet? (and DON'T cite "The Vatican!!")"

Can you explain why if it's so important to wipe out Islam because there are Islamic theocracies, why Christianity should of not been wiped out when there were many Christian theocracies.

There are still countries where Christianity has too much pull, but they have evolved away from such governmental interference, as will Islam.

American Muslims are very assimilated and very decent people. I am very glad we have such diversity here, and don't like the "let's have a night of the broken crystal here with Muslims as the target" talk.

Well if you have to know...forgot to take my meds..you young whipper snapper! Chill out! Murron 2002-08-31

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-12   22:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: Liberator (#254)

"Why don't you consider Secular Humanism as the religion (besides Islam) creating the most havoc?"

That is not a religion.

Well if you have to know...forgot to take my meds..you young whipper snapper! Chill out! Murron 2002-08-31

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-12   22:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: Murron (#257)

You are babbling, bitch.

Ge your hillbilly ass to write legibly in a way that is lucid and makes a point, and then I will answer your douche bag ass.

My father was a pilot in the Navy during World War Two in the Pacific theater.

I served nine years on active duty at Ft. Bragg, N.C. because I care about this country. And I used the G.I. Bill to get an education and have worked my entire adult life. And I am two years younger then you are, and a grand dad and a dad, Mom_Granny.

You want war, bitch, well fine; the gloves are off.

Well if you have to know...forgot to take my meds..you young whipper snapper! Chill out! Murron 2002-08-31

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-12   22:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: Ferret Mike (#258) (Edited)

Mike, here's you original assertion:

"Most religions Like Islam, Christianity and Judaism are more concerned with social control then anything else. It would be hypocritical to just go after Islam."

My challenge: "Can you provide for us ANY case of an existing Christian theocracy on this entire planet (considering Christianity has NO authority to "control ANY governmental social policies"?) The opposite has been the truth of the matter.

You haven't directly answered my challenge. Prove me wrong.

There are still countries where Christianity has too much pull, but they have evolved away from such governmental interference, as will Islam.

"PULL"?? As in "influence"? But you claimed "social control" - NOT "pull." NAME THOSE COUNTRIES, Mike.

American Muslims are very assimilated and very decent people.

VERY assimilated?? Where? In Detroit?? Which Micro-pockets?

Many may well be "decent." However the Islamic culture and it's Quranian value system - including Sharia Law - is incompatible with Western Judeo-Christian values of the Founders. A sizable contingent of its adherents demonstrate hostility to ALL other systems and non-Muslims. FACT.

I am very glad we have such diversity here, and don't like the "let's have a night of the broken crystal here with Muslims as the target" talk.

Diversity is code for Divide & Conquer. Islam remains ultimately a Death Cult and an oppressive society bent on dominance.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-12   23:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: Ferret Mike (#259) (Edited)

That [Secular Humanism] is not a religion.

It IS a "religion."

(Merriam Websters:) Secular Humanism: "a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith"

(wiki):

The term "Secular Humanism" was coined in the 20th century, and was adopted by non-religious humanists in order to make a clear distinction from "religious humanism".

Fundamental to the concept of Secular Humanism is the strongly held belief that ideology--be it religious or political--must be examined by each individual and not simply accepted on faith. Along with this belief, an essential part of Secular Humanism is an ongoing search for objective truth, which is seen to be continually adapting and changing.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-12   23:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: Liberator (#247)

We want Alaska...the RATS wouldn't know what to do with it anyway...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-09-12   23:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: Mudboy Slim (#263)

We want Alaska...the RATS wouldn't know what to do with it anyway...

And isn't that the point? How do liberals build ANYTHING that's not already existing? (I mean except for primitive grass huts, cardboard box "homes," hovels, corrigated-roof shacks, and tents "cities"?) IN ALASKA?? HA!!!

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-13   0:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: Liberator (#245)

Even I don't get you anymore more than 10% of the time.

You can't 'get me'. In any sense of the word.

You're paid not to understand.

Note the complete lack of anything above to argue your position.

Just your say so.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: Liberator (#264) (Edited)

"How do liberals build ANYTHING that's not already existing?"

RATS build NOTHING but Bureaucracies...RATS R LEECHES Upon Productive Society...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-09-13   20:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: A K A Stone (#205)

I would agree that Hell per se is in the original greek and hebrew to, JUST NOT IN THE ETERNAL FORM IT WAS LATER TRANSLATED INTO IN BOTH THE LATIN VOLGATE AND LATER THE KJV. As a Christian Universalist one thing I'm into is studying NDE's (near death experiences). A predominant part of these events there is called the Life Review in which people are punished by being made to feel the PAIN, TORMENT AND GRIEF THEY HAVE GIVEN TO OTHERS. (Hitler as a forinstance would feel the pain, torment and death he gave to the 6,000,000 jews and the multi millions more World War II casualties one by one during the Life Review before going on to an eternal destiny if he was not saved. In otherwords I believe there is a type of Hell but it consists of the pain, torment and grief we INFLICT ON OTHERS coming back to us during the Life Review if we are not saved. The words translated "For Ever and Ever" for the Lake of Fire in Revelation actually means "for ages and ages" when accurately translated from the Greek indicating a punishment of unknown duration but one THAT STILL ENDS, like the Life Review as a forinstance. (The term aeon in greek or age in english Always means a period of time with a beginning and an ending, NEVER an eternity.)

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Coral Snake  posted on  2010-09-13   23:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: Coral Snake (#267)

As a Christian Universalist one thing I'm into is studying NDE's (near death experiences). A predominant part of these events there is called the Life Review in which people are punished by being made to feel the PAIN, TORMENT AND GRIEF THEY HAVE GIVEN TO OTHERS.

Never read about any of that in the Bible. What verses are these beliefs based on?

Also here is some verses I am thinking about right now

Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15

But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16

From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. 17

This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, 18

Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: 19

Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. 20

But ye have not so learned Christ; 21

If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22

That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23

And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24

And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. 25

Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. Zech 8:16 26

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: 27

Neither give place to the devil. 28

Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. 29

Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 30

And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 31

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

The guest speaker at church preached about this. I think there is a reason he did.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-13   23:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: CZ82 (#0)

bump

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-03-24   8:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: A K A Stone (#269)

bump

So are you wanting me to elaborate on some of my dealings with them while I was overseas, or just comment on how big a POS the book is?????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-03-24   15:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: All (#0)

Rise up gather round...

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-02   10:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: CZ82 (#270)

So are you wanting me to elaborate on some of my dealings with them while I was overseas, or just comment on how big a POS the book is?????

Yes elaborate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-02   10:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: A K A Stone (#0)

No problem; right after I finish this post I'm torching one of those little pocket bibles I keep in my internal frame backpack because they make such good camping toilet paper and torching it in a frying pan just outside the back door. Be back in five minutes or so.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-02   12:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: CZ82 (#270)

So are you wanting me to elaborate on some of my dealings with them while I was overseas, or just comment on how big a POS the book is?????

Evidently you've never read the Talmud.

Soooo....were you there in the role of an invader or conqueror? Or were you brainwashed into believing you came as a savior or were there for their own good?

Or were you just trying to sneak off with more of their natural resources?

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-02   12:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: Ferret Mike (#273)

I never burned the Koran. This is a parody song.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-02   13:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: A K A Stone (#275)

Well, I didn't burn the Bible, but I love to threaten to when I see a silly comment like the title of this thread.

Put drama without a clue in a title, and I will always reciprocate, if I'm in as good a mood as I am now anyway. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-02   13:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Ferret Mike (#276)

Well, I didn't burn the Bible, but I love to threaten to when I see a silly comment like the title of this thread.

Burning the Old Testament should be mandatory. There's nothing much in the books of old Hebrew mythology other than begats and tribal wars with "God on my side".

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-02   13:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: Ferret Mike (#276)

Put on some Def Leppard and sing along to my new lyrics above. Enjoy

Shit > Obama

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-02   13:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: mininggold (#277)

Burning the Old Testament should be mandatory.

What book will be next?

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-02   13:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: mininggold (#277)

There's nothing much in the books of old Hebrew mythology other than begats and tribal wars with "God on my side".

That's not true. There are plenty of passages in the OT that the Protestant evangelical death cult can twist in order to make themselves subservient to the heretical death cult known as Judaism. Not to mention the ones they can twist in order to make war upon the competing death cult known as Islam.

Lucifer is smiling upon them all as they spread death and destruction throughout the world.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2012-01-02   13:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: mininggold (#274)

Evidently you've never read the Talmud.

The whole thing no, I've had no desire to.... But I've had bits and pieces of it read to me by people I ran into in Europe... Why???? Are "YOU" going to tell me, that it's a POS too????

The only time I get upset about religion is when some low IQ pinhead is shooting at me, and is using his religion as justification for something he has "IMAGINED" that I've done to him or his people....... He's forsaking using decency and common sense in dealing with me and letting his idiotic beliefs in his idiotic religion rule his mind and life.....

So.... since the Jews haven't shot at me I'm not going to get very interested in what the Talmud says.... I'll leave that to the ones who believe and study what's in the Talmud, and to the ones who hate the Jews because of their religion and want to use their words/beliefs against them!!!!!

Some people need religion and some don't.... Some people need to believe in something greater than them and some are perfectly happy with just believing in themselves and their abilities..... If a "GOD" exists or has existed then I'm alright with that, if one hasn't existed then I'm alright with that too.....

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-02   16:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: mininggold (#274)

Soooo....were you there in the role of an invader or conqueror? Or were you brainwashed into believing you came as a savior or were there for their own good?

Or were you just trying to sneak off with more of their natural resources?

No... I was there at the invitation of that government in a non-combatant roll... I was in a Heavy Construction outfit at that time and we had no weapons with us, only tools for building things....

Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-01-02   16:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: All (#0)

Karzai the clown wants to put U.S. Troops on trial for accidently burning the Koran. I say it is your duty to burn the Koran.

Muslim, Muslim Gettin Even All right I got something to say Yeah, it's better to burn Korans Yeah, than to let them stay All right Ow Gonna start a fire C'mon! Rise up! gather round Take the Koran throw it to the ground Burn it up let's go for broke Watch the night go up in smoke

Burn on, Burn On

Drive muzzies crazier, no serenade No fire brigade, just Pyromania

What do you want? What do you want? I want Koran To Burn, yes I do Long live The Bible

Oh let's go, let's strike a light We're gonna blow like dynamite I don't care if it takes all night Gonna set this book alight

What do you want? What do you want? I want The Koran To Burn, All right! Long live The Bible

Rock of ages, rock of ages Still smokin', keep a-smokin' Rock of ages, rock of ages Still blazin', Really Blazin'

We got the power, got the glory Just say you need it and if you need it Say yeah!

Heh heh heh heh Now listen to me It's Burnin', Burnin', I got the fever I know for sure, there ain't no cure So feel it, don't fight it, go with the flow Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme some charcoal

What do you want? What do you want? I want That Koran To Burn, You betcha Long live The Bible

We're gonna burn this damn book down Down to the ground

Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-27   7:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: All (#0)

Timely bump for the people who worship the child rapist Mohammad. I piss on mohammad.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-09-13   11:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Mudboy Slim (#0)

I do lyrics too Mud. This is to Def Leppards Pyromania.

Muslim, Muslim Gettin Even All right I got something to say Yeah, it's better to burn Korans Yeah, than to let them stay All right Ow Gonna start a fire C'mon! Rise up! gather round Take the Koran throw it to the ground Burn it up let's go for broke Watch the night go up in smoke

Burn on, Burn On

Drive muzzies crazier, no serenade No fire brigade, just Pyromania

What do you want? What do you want? I want Koran To Burn, yes I do Long live The Bible

Oh let's go, let's strike a light We're gonna blow like dynamite I don't care if it takes all night Gonna set this book alight

What do you want? What do you want? I want The Koran To Burn, All right! Long live The Bible

Rock of ages, rock of ages Still smokin', keep a-smokin' Rock of ages, rock of ages Still blazin', Really Blazin'

We got the power, got the glory Just say you need it and if you need it Say yeah!

Heh heh heh heh Now listen to me It's Burnin', Burnin', I got the fever I know for sure, there ain't no cure So feel it, don't fight it, go with the flow Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme some charcoal

What do you want? What do you want? I want That Koran To Burn, You betcha Long live The Bible

We're gonna burn this damn book down Down to the ground

Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-10-06   9:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: Logsplitter, redleghunter, liberator, cz82, (#0) (Edited)

ping

A K A Stone  posted on  2014-10-25   15:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: Al-Omari (#0)

F You Pedophile worshipper.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-26   16:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: Jihadi (#0)

Dedicated to you and dead Muslims everywhere.

May all Muslims repent of being a muslim or die wrapped in bacon.

Enjoy the song lyrics.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-01-11   11:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: Paraclete, stoner (#0)

For your enjoyment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-04-10   0:07:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: A K A Stone (#289)

I'd rather forget they exist

paraclete  posted on  2019-04-10   9:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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