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Title: I've Decided. Burn that Piece of Shit they Call the Koran
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Published: Sep 10, 2010
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2010-09-11 00:01:36 by A K A Stone
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The Koran is a text from Satan. It ruins people and makes them evil. Burn that evil piece of shit book. Burn them all. Wipe your ass with them. Piss on them. Spit on them. Rip the pages out and line your bird cage with it. It is not a holy book. Muslim, Muslim Gettin Even All right I got something to say Yeah, it's better to burn Korans Yeah, than to let them stay All right Ow Gonna start a fire C'mon! Rise up! gather round Take the Koran throw it to the ground Burn it up let's go for broke Watch the night go up in smoke Burn on, Burn On Drive muzzies crazier, no serenade No fire brigade, just Pyromania What do you want? What do you want? I want Koran To Burn, yes I do Long live The Bible Oh let's go, let's strike a light We're gonna blow like dynamite I don't care if it takes all night Gonna set this book alight What do you want? What do you want? I want The Koran To Burn, All right! Long live The Bible Rock of ages, rock of ages Still smokin', keep a-smokin' Rock of ages, rock of ages Still blazin', Really Blazin' We got the power, got the glory Just say you need it and if you need it Say yeah! Heh heh heh heh Now listen to me It's Burnin', Burnin', I got the fever I know for sure, there ain't no cure So feel it, don't fight it, go with the flow Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme some charcoal What do you want? What do you want? I want That Koran To Burn, You betcha Long live The Bible We're gonna burn this damn book down Down to the ground Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Dr Ron Paul and his fellow constitutionalists will NOT stand behind your decision. Just as they abandoned their states rights position with respect to AZ's Ab1070.
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I find that a myopic view. Have you even bothered reading it Stone? Because of the issue I'm reading one right now out of curiosity. Much as I once took a bible study course when a student at the UO to better understand where Jewish and Christan people come from. This view of yours' makes you look narrow minded and intolerant. Tell me, would Jesus strike someone dead at a gathering for saying his words did not jive with them, or would he leave this free will choice up to them? You as a religion overall are not better then Islam, just different. All religions have their good and bad to them because of the human influence in their making and because all religions have their saints and scoundrels. I worked at Portland Saturday market and lots of Muslims vend there. One who is a good friend of mine has a Jewish wife. Go meet some American Muslims, read more on the topic. And leave the trappings of Fahrenheit 451 in the realm of fiction where it belongs.
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Just as they abandoned their states rights position with respect to AZ's Ab1070. I'm so sure that today the streets are going to be over run with people that give a big, hairy rats ass what Paul, or anyone in this government think. Many have shown their true color, it's YELLOW, and it RUNS....they don't stand with the American people anyway, why should today be any different? "I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Good boy Stone. Burn that sucker and watch the camel jockeys do back flips into sand dunes. And if they really get nasty, toss a few suitcase nukes into the mobs. Really, the planet would be better off.
This would be the time when jews like Einstein left Germany. ;} Now how did we get to Stalingrad? LMFAO Quote from: TheDignityofStruggle on Yesterday at 05:35:46 PM Quote from: picasso moon on Yesterday at 03:42:24 PM I don't know a single person involved in the 9/11 truth movement who only wants to "fight for truth about this one event." But someone who claims to be concerned about the big picture has a plausibility problem when they absolutely refuse to deal with the details of one of the frames, one rather obvious frame. ....But most people in the truth movement, at least the mainstream of the truth movement (an odd concept, I know) have sort of a "take back America from TPTB," sort of mindset. Most truth movement folks aren't even PO aware or they reject PO as a globalist conspiracy..... PicMo, I don't understand what you mean by the 9-11 event being a "frame." the 'frame' of the Oil Age Movie. Lasting 120+ years so far. And this is Exactly how you get the 'truth'. PO, Climate Weirding, Greatest Concentration of WealthEver, Sixth Extinction Event, HumanPopOvershoot. And then Overlay the PoliEcon(note ZERO Universities teach same;} and you'll get an EXACT match with each OIL Discovery/Production Watershed. As the Deepwater Horizon Ecocide has exposed every CT for what it is. Failure is fractal. Hidden Agendas producing ONLY Absurdities. Like this: Condoleeza Rice hung up on George Bush in the the aftermath of 911 ... Sep 6, 2010 ... The former national security adviser ordered the US President, ... Condoleeza Rice hung up on George Bush and ordered him to stay away after ... www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Condoleeza-Rice-hung-George-Bush-the-aftermath-911.html
Germany's leading Jewish group, the Central Council of Jews, has condemned Terry Jones' plans to burn the Koran. In a statement issued Wednesday, the organization's president, Charlotte Knobloch, said the idea was "terrible and repulsive" and that it reminded her of the Nazis' infamous book-burning in 1933. "Where they burn books, they will end up burning people," she said, quoting the 19th-century German author Heinrich Heine.
I'd be real fine if they fled America back to the safety of their caves in god knows where.
Vicious hatred and intolerance is supposed to not be Christian values. I would say Stone needs to crack open his King James more then he needs to lust for dubious revenge against a religion that had adherents die in the attacks, and has service men and women in the U.S. Armed forces. I know many Muslims who are good productive citizens of the United States. One of them who is a vendor in Portland Saturday Market even has a Jewish wife. I am glad we have Muslims living in the United States, and as long as the U.S. Constitution remains healthy and unmolested, there will always be religious tolerance here as per the First Amendment which uphold religious freedom as well as freedom of speech. It is ironic Stone has a forum allegedly celebrating one half of the First Amendment, and a thread slamming the other.
Thanks Tull. Hey post this at 4um for me please.
AKA Stoned, did you get suspended/banned over there again?
I'm out of here for an hour. Football, baby. You post it. I understand it was the cussing in your last, not the content.
No it is funny that you liberals never get worked up when they burn the American flag. They do it all the time. The govt burnt bibles. The Koran is a book that leads people to hell. It would be good if those people gave up satan and came to God. The founders weren't talking about islam when they said freedom of religion. Islam is a satanist cult. They were talking about babtists, presbytarians etc.
Just because the Koran is burnt doesn't mean that people should be violent or anything towards muslims.
I have a hard time understanding, in fact, I don't understand how Stone can claim to be a child of God who commands "Love thine enemy". I get that to love one's enemy can be difficult and a struggle, however, Stone seems to be celebrating his hate. You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. "
I hate that book and pity the fools who believe it. Rise up thater round gonna burn that book to the ground.
Love thy enemy doesn't include not confronting them that they use a book that leads them to hell. If you hate them you would just keep quiet and not say anything. If you love them you would confront their book of lies and evil. But I don't expect you do understand that. You have been indoctrinated with a unhealthy dose of liberalism. Was maplethorp a hater?
"Where they burn books, they will end up burning people," she said, quoting the 19th-century German author Heinrich Heine. Its pretty darn clear that Jones meant his Koran burning to be a provocation, sort of like sticking your finger in someone's eye.
I'd be real fine if they fled America back to the safety of their caves in god knows where. The Jews? 8D And do you think satan would live in a cave or the Imperial City. JENNINGS: Let's go to the trade towers again because, John, we now have a--what do we have? We don't... MILLER: It looks like a new plume--a new large plume of smoke. (The Basement has just been blown out. This corresponds with the pic of that "large plume of smoke' just before the the Top 32 floors fall over, spin and then disintegrate;} JENNINGS: Well, it may be that something fell off the building. It may be that something has fall--yet we don't know, to be perfectly honest. But that is what you're looking at, the current--that's the scene at this moment at the World Trade Center. Don Dahler from ABC's "Good Morning America" is down in--in the general vicinity. Don, can you tell us what has just happened? DAHLER: Yes, Peter. Don Dahler. I'm four blocks north of the World Trade Center. The second building that was hit by the plane has just completely collapsed. The entire building has just collapsed, as if a demolition team set off--when you see the old demolitions of these old buildings. It folded down on itself, and it's not there any more. Copyright © 2001 ABCNEWS Internet Ventures
So those liberals who burnt the flag here in America should be feared? They might burn us? Well they kill babies too so that isn't surprising.
Now if the govt was the ones burning the book. That would be closer to what you describe.
We do it too. I've even stolen a very large flag local anarchists were going to drag around and burn. I've also burned flags - that were worn out as is what is called for in American Flag protocol. As for the Bible burning the Armed Forces did, it was not an act of protest, it is the normal standard operating procedure to dispose of material there is no room to store, and could cause inflamed passions locally that could endanger the health and well being of troops in Afghanistan. No, they remembered well that many came here to this continent because of religious persecution. The U.S. Constitution was written to be a living entity that provided protection covering change and evolution of culture and life in these United States. The First Amendment protects, Christianity, Islam, the Latter Day Saints, Wicca, and any other religion of choice. And as the freedom of speech in that amendment works because people are accountable for the ramifications of their speech, people are responsible for the ramifications of their religious endeavors. Christianity evolves. Martin Luther was disgusted with the problems of Catholicism and sparked the Protestant Reformation. Islam evolves too. Many of it's believers and followers are hard working, decent people, many of which died in the destruction of 9-11 and serve proudly in the U.S. Armed Forces. It is better to recognize th goos aspects of Islam and dialog for change if one sees the need to do so in that faith - or Christianity too for that matter. There are over a billion Muslims all over the globe, you are not going to wipe that faith out. All intolerance and acts meant to denigrate, insult or belittle Islam just removes dialog and community between people who need this to make life better for everyone. Burning the Koran does nothing to hurt Islam. But it does make those doing it look backward, vicious and shallow, and is contrary to the spirit of the words of the Founding Fathers ensconced in the U.S. Constitution of the United States of America.
I've seen anarchists and extremists burn the flag, but never mainstream liberals. I myself am very liberal - and a veteran who lectures people at places like Goodwill and other second hand stores that do not fold used American Flags they have for sale properly. I have also complained when I see a government building with a worn out flag needing replacement. You are wrong here.
You don't know the motives. You only know what they said the motives were. Regardless it is a constitutional violation for the govt to do it. Zero is derelict at duty
Only when amended. Otherwise bullshit.
I'll give you that one, as far as humans can be decent.
Mike I think you are an ok guy. What was it though that the muslims did in Israel. Oh yeah they burned the churches and Josephs birthplace.
It is God's plan for salvation, not AKA Stone's. If you believe that God is who He says He is in the Bible than you know He is perfectly capable of saving souls without your direction or help. Paul instructs the wife of the unbeliever to win her husband over not with her words, but with her behavior. Of course its easier to tell someone they're going to hell than it is to consistently reflect God's love.
If you read the Bible you would know that God said not to even look at or consider evil. The Koran fits that category.
Could you do me a little favor and show me one post of yours where you have ever condemned the burning of the flag or a Bible. It happens all the time and you post regularly. It shouldn't be that hard for you to find. That way I can take you more seriously.
Actually, I do know. I was in Special Forces that is part of Special Operations Command which deals largely in low intensity conflict and the TM calls for shredding or burning of material that could compromise efforts to win hearts and minds in the commission of successfully achieving the overall mission in a conflict. There was nothing temperamental or hateful about this disposal. The Bibles were a problem in that it would of given Taliban combatants a potent tool to sustain and deepen the warfare into a wider conflict. If the Taliban had been able to access the Bibles, they would of spread them around to cause problems for us and give themselves a propaganda coup. They wouldn't of burned them. They want Christians to come spread Bibles around to help them alarm people enough so more support them allowing them to deepen and strengthen their efforts to kill our people and win their war. It was done to protect servicemen and women there, not to insult any religion. This falls directly in the lap of something I know well as part of corps I was in as an American Paratrooper.
I wouldn't equate burning a flag with burning a book regarded as holy. Also, I think the motives are different; flag burners are disappointed lovers while book burners seek to destroy ideas - the only way to ultimately destroy an idea is to destroy the person who holds it.
You didn't address that it was illegal for them to do that. The govt took a position that violated the first amendment. It was illegal and zero didn't do anything about it.
The Koran isn't holy. It is unholy.
The last time I was at Fort Lewis and they sounded the music to denote thee lowering of the flag for the day, I a civilian now stopped my car when I saw others serving there doing so, and got out and stood in respect of the flag with my hand over my heart. People on active duty are to stop, stand at parade rest until the music noting the actual lowering starts, then are to snap to attention and salute.
Not true. Think about it.
It is. Now as I scroll down this thread, let's see who refutes your charges....
I lived on a military base for years. I know protocol. You pat yourself on the back a lot.
I know that it isn't illegal. I know for a fact it is called for in the regulations to comprehensively and dispassionately remove any element that endangers servicemen and women and hurts the accomplishment of the mission.
Are you referring to the evangelical soldier who brought Bible to Afghanistan for the purpose of converting the locals in violation of military rules? As far as I know there is no rule forbidding members of the military from having their own personal Bible.
The violation is plain as day. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[1] Mike the govt has a law that prohibited the free exercise of those servicemens religion. It is a violation.
Muslims regard it as holy. It isn't up to you or me to decide for them.
You must 'think' they follow the tribal political/social model you advocate.
Just citing an example of my actions denoting my passions and feelings in the wake of seeing your admonishment to another poster to cite an example of her action denoting her beliefs and feelings. Besides, I've seen your hand go double jointed to your own backside in a patting action and find this statement to be an eye rolling example of hypocrisy.
FREE EXERCISE. Then why did they burn them?
You as a religion overall are not better then Islam, just different. Mikey, Mikey... You're letting you "tolerance" of all things create a blind spot in your moral judgment the size of Rhode Island. Islam IS Evil. I don't know is you're just funnin' juut to make things interesting, or you really believe what you've said. I hope it's the former.
Nice. I'll have mine well done, crispy.
And it isn't up to them to decide for me if I want to burn one. Or if I support someone else burning one. You liberals always say that free expression (burning flags, christ in urine etc.) is what makes America great.
Jimmy, did you know that the tomato is actually a fruit? STAY ON TOPIC FOR ONCE, DAMMIT!!
How UTTERLY stupid. Wanna know something? Muslims all over the Muslim world are burning American flags and Bibles. What's THAT remind you of, AlfredENewmansmom??
Why do we have so many shredders and burning barrels at embassies and other U.S. facilities all over the world? It would of been a waste of taxpayer dollars to fly these books out of that country, and the chain of custody of potentially dangerous to troops and mission material as short as possible to best insure control and custody of the material is in no way compromised. As a former soldier that knows the doctrine of handling sensitive material well, I in no way find the means used to remove the Bibles from the scene in Afghanistan the least bit unusual.
I say he can burn any and all books/flags/etc that he owns as he so chooses and that he gets to take the heat and notoreity for those actions {Edit: when done in public}.
That is fair enough.
The Constitution is diseased and been sodomized. Oh. It's also now just a G-D piece of paper. You've obviously missed the memo, Mike. Burning the Koran of the Workers Daily, or a photo of 0bama is LEGAL as well. Respect OUR "tolerance," sir. It's a two-way effin street.
JENNINGS: Let's go to the trade towers again because, John, we now have a--what do we have? We don't... MILLER: It looks like a new plume--a new large plume of smoke. (The Basement has just been blown out. This corresponds with the pic of that "large plume of smoke' just before the the Top 32 floors fall over, spin and then disintegrate;} JENNINGS: Well, it may be that something fell off the building. It may be that something has fall--yet we don't know, to be perfectly honest. But that is what you're looking at, the current--that's the scene at this moment at the World Trade Center. Don Dahler from ABC's "Good Morning America" is down in--in the general vicinity. Don, can you tell us what has just happened? DAHLER: Yes, Peter. Don Dahler. I'm four blocks north of the World Trade Center. The second building that was hit by the plane has just completely collapsed. The entire building has just collapsed, as if a demolition team set off--when you see the old demolitions of these old buildings. It folded down on itself, and it's not there any more. Copyright © 2001 ABCNEWS Internet Ventures 50 Ton Press in Basement of WTC N already blown out.
The other kids are doing it is no excuse for lowering our standards of behavior. Part of respecting the living, breathing representations of the American People called the U.S. Constitution is respecting the First Amendment's call for freedom of religion. We need to lead by example if we want to show we care about our own Founding Father's words. We don't need to get down in the dung pit with them and ape what they are doing. We then just lower ourselves to there level. And you know something, they want us to do that and like to see that happen.
Then why did they burn them? My guess is that if you want to convert Muslims you probably shouldn't join the military to do it. It isn't clear that they were burned. The U.S. Central Command General Order 1 prohibits "proselytizing of any religion, faith, or practice."
The govt prohibited the free exercise of religion. The soldier wasn't given due process. The soldier wasn't compensated for the theft of private property. Zero snoozed through it. No doubt zero is a muslim. Notice who he speaks for.
It isn't clear that they were burned. The constitution has a section for amending the constitution and changing it. The first amendment trumps everything that came before it. Including declaring war. It was a constitutional violation. Zero doesn't care though, just so they don't burn Korans. The man is a muslim and you have your blindfold on your eyes.
Fred, you lack fundamental qualities in forum posting known as respect, propriety, humor, thoughtfulness, and intelligence. Now because you lack ALL five, consider it a a GIFT that you are allowed to post ANY where. Stop being an unnecessary jerkoff to your host.
Jimmy, did you know that the tomato is actually a fruit? STAY ON TOPIC FOR ONCE, DAMMIT!! You can't follow the conversation is all. #5. To: A K A Stone (#0) Good boy Stone. Burn that sucker and watch the camel jockeys do back flips into sand dunes. And if they really get nasty, toss a few suitcase nukes into the mobs. Really, the planet would be better off. Jethro Tull posted on 2010-09-11 9:16:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #6. To: Jethro Tull, A K A Stone (#5) This would be the time when jews like Einstein left Germany. ;} Now how did we get to Stalingrad? LMFAO But you, Lib, have zero difficulty with Genocide of Muslims. And can't quite make the leap for when the First jews were smart enough to flee the Holocaust/Genocide. And so blame me for equating all with our only energy source for the last 120+ years...wait for it....OIL. LMFAO OIL JEWS MUSLIMS. What's OUR OIL doing underneath THEIR sand. Get it now, LIB? Of course not, cause the EMpire is paying you not to understand. 8D Programs for the Pogroms! Get your Programs for the Pogroms. Can't tell the players without a Program! 8D
And freedom of speech. Why did you leave that part off. They can practice their so called religion. No one is stoppping them. Was the demwit maplethorp violating freedom of religion? They can practice their religion. Others can practice their first amendment right to burn the Koran. No conflict.
OOOOH NASSSSTY. US v THEM in aLl it's glory. And it's FREEDOM FROM Religion.
When a "religion" crosses the line and becomes oppressive, threatening, demanding, and intolerant itself, it has violated the social compact with the people. As I've stated, your moral standing in this regard is BLINDED. Moreover, the right as per the 1st Amendment to object in the manner in which it is proposed IS "constitutional." ISN'T IT?
And the Greatest Transfer of Wealth in World History continues {but for not much longer;} There was George W. Bush, who announced he was embarking on a "Crusade" and was enjoined by then Prime Minister Tony Blair, now converted to Catholicism. There was the "Clash of Civilisations", nonsense. And US and UK soldiers taking in guns with Biblical quotes on the stocks - and distributing bibles in the relevant languages as they incursed - and worse - in to towns, villages, neighbourhoods in Afghanistan and Iraq... Recently a contributer to a Middle East-orientated website wrote: "I am a Muslim : Kill me & call it 'collateral damage’; imprison me & call it: 'security measure’; exile my people en masse & call it: 'A New Middle East’; steal my resources, invade my land, murder my wife & children, alter the leadership of my country & call it: 'democracy.’" He speaks for millions...
Ostensibly, we're fighting in Afghanistan to allow their citizens to form a government which would include rights, similar to ours and other democracies. Logically, that would include the right of free speech (read; burning a flag or a book, including the Koran). So for our government to throw all their power at the FL pastor for wanting to do what our military is in Afghanistan fighting for, is the height of irony. Burn the POS.
Powerful words and pretty simple too.
The U.S. military did not want to offend their enemie, so they burnt our Holy Bible, a symbol of a tyrannical regime. Nazi Hitler had book burnings all across europe. This was standard affair. When they wanted to control a situation and demoralize their enemy, they burned books. April, 2009 U.S. Soliders Burning Bibles Who is the 'Enemy'? Do our soldiers even know anymore?
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
"All things are lawful, but not all things are helpful. All things are lawful, but not all things build up." You liberals always say that free expression (burning flags, christ in urine etc.) is what makes America great. Did you watch the video with Sister Wendy addressing the work "Piss Christ"? Here it is again. www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9pAKdkJh-Y I appreciate what she says about comforting art - "so nice to know I'm right", she says.
That is true. But I don't want to build up islam.
Frankly, I don't GAS if satanism or Islam is practiced on the OTHER side of the world, and away from MY civilization; From my perspective, satanism and Islam is the same. They are retrograde, devolving, dehumanizing, GARBAGE. You have ZERO comprehension that Islam is monumentally incompatible with ALL OTHER belief systems in this world that nourish freedom. This, makes the two of you painfully and obviously naive, ignorant, and ridiculously myopic. You'd last two seconds under a Muslim regime before committing suicide.
When I was little and excuse behavior with something like that, my mother would ask, "if someone jumps off the bridge, are you going to follow?"
Actually, being sensitive as to how one's actions can jeopardize the health and welfare of troops abroad is something that we always have done and always will do. These folks were in no way prohibited from doing the burning. But as I said, free speech works works because people are accountable for the ramifications of their speech. If you yell fire in a crowded theater and people are hurt or killed in the stampede to the door, you would not be prosecuted for your exercise of free speech, you would be prosecuted for conduct endangering, hurting or killing people, The burning was stopped by these folks not because they suddenly stopped believing what they say about Islam and the writings of it, they stopped because they thought about the ramifications of what they planned to do. This was wise, I don't want out people over there hurt. And it is disingenuous to slam Jane Fonda as someone who endangered troops by going to North Vietnam and then allowing salesmen for Christianity to do the same in a country where importing the trappings of outer cultures to change what they do, what they believe and how they live is a hot button issue. If the war there were not going on, this issue would of never generated the call to stop this book burning it did. Loose lips sink ships. Inciting anger that jeopardizes lives of our servicemen and women in Afghanistan can kill and maim our people, and if you make their job harder and this makes the war longer and more difficult to accomplish the mission, it very much will kill or maim our folks there. here is zero doubt of that being a fact.
Do you understand the concept of "hating EVIL? He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you... Invoking Jesus?? Are you a Christian now, Mom?? You don't know the Word, so stop cherry-picking from the Gospel you disingenuous snake-ette.
I wonder if a stoner ever used that argument when his pot was confiscated?
When I was younger, and a couple of older boys jumped me and my little brother, and I told my dad that we bloodied their noses, he said, ALWAYS protect your brother and yourself. You are a pacifist who will cheerfully comply with Sharia Law and would NOT defend even your own granddaughter from harm.
The incident that made the news happened when Bush was president - but - never mind.
It happened when Bush was President. But the news broke when Obama was president. He didn't do squat. Of course not he is a muslim.
The govt burnt bibles. This bears repeating. Also, notice how people on the left get apoplectic over the burning of the Koran yet don't give a rip about the killing of women who live in Sharia law???? How about the women who are raped and then killed under Sharia law???? You never hear the left say shit about those things.
Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554
The burning would be water on burning gasoline. It would not stop the destruction, it would spread and intensify the damage done in the fire. If you want to struggle to check or reverse the spread of Islam, one sound be strategically sound in how one plans and executes ones tactics and operations to do so. I see the burning as galvanizing people to Islam. It polarizes things and makes Christians look like self serving hypocrites when after that they come over talking of brotherhood and peace. If you want to walk the walk, talk the talk. Let your actions speak and show your beliefs, or your words will be shunned and ridiculed.
I wonder why the cops wait until harvest time to bust the pot growers? No I don't. I know the reason.
Michael Mac. So wise, so compassionate, so stupid, so disengaged from reality 50% of the time. You've been perhaps the greatest enigma at any forum I've ever seen. JANE FONDA????? In the context of THIS conversation? I'm outta here. This thread has jumped the shark.
The muslims have sowed bible burning and reaped the harvest of burning Korans.
Was the pastor arrested? If not, then the government did not used all its power. BTW, Terry Jones was thrown out of the church he started in Germany by his congregation when he became abusive and was accused of "financial irregularities".
i also think stone is wrong on burning the koran, why burn, when you can put it to good use wiping your ass or draining bacon when you fry it.
The left is a puzzling bunch. Killing unborn babies...thumbs up. Christ in a jar of urine. be tolerant of others. Burn a Koran. No fucking way. The hypocrisy should be stunning but isn't.
Actually, you are wrong. Nobody on any part of the political spectrum here in the U.S. supports honor killings, or wears a Walmart grade happy face and ignores that problem.
Then stop defending stuff that does.
He committed no crime, yet he was "visited" by the FBI and singled out by the President himself and called insane. Why? You tell me.
I was thinking of an idea for a new website. We could sell a barbecue kit. It would come with a cheap portable grill. Some kind of pork of your choice. Some charcoal and a Koran to get the charcoal going.
That is not true Ferret. A judge here in America let a muslim off for raping his wife because it was his religion.
Think what you like. Your opinion doesn't matter here.
Right, and Michael wears a burka.
Powerful words and pretty simple too. The victim made into the perp. Perfected for 10 000 years. America to Enter Tenth Year of 'Emergency' Next Week by Jason Ditz, September 10, 2010 Email This | Print This | Share This | Antiwar Forum In a letter issued to the heads of Congress today, President Barack Obama announced yet another one year extension of a State of National Emergency which has been going on in the United States since September 14, 2001. This means that as of Tuesday America will officially be entering its tenth year at an emergency posture them seems destined to last pretty much forever.
OH HOHOHOHOH Merry Xmas everbody. And ALL of our OIL underneath THEIR sand just magically makes it's way to OUR Civilization where the Top 50 000 own a 1/3 of all the assets.
Lube's opinion doesn't matter anywhere outside of the closet he lives in.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
Until very recently courts in the US did not recognize that rape could take place in a marriage. Sex was a man's right and a woman's duty.
Go ahead Lucy, tell us.
But we STILL need ALL of their OIL. And w/in Days/weeks/months THEY are not going to be able to provide us with any more. And amazing the way you can diss the FASTEST GROWING organized religion in the WORLD today. From Morocco to Egypt to Turkey to Pakistan to India to Indonesia to the Philippines.
That would be wrong because the Prophet Jesus is very well respected in the Muslim world.
And you wear a dunce hat the size of a grain silo.
Do you agree with that?
Quote please. His daughter called him insane.
Indonesia!? Bali? And on the beach with a luscious babe and the beverage of my choice, I'd be wanting to kill myself? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D
My God Jimmy. WHO are you shittin'??
Bali? And on the beach with a luscious babe and the beverage of my choice, I'd be wanting to kill myself? Those are hybrid Muzzie regimes and you know it.
That isn't true. Christianity is. You never could answer what fault you could find in christs words. I guess that means you couldn't find any.
My God Jimmy. WHO are you shittin'?? That would be wrong because the Prophet Jesus is very well respected in the Muslim world. The exact problem with your comprehension is what exactly? Prophet Jesus Islam Prophets of Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Islam views every single prophet from Adam (Arabic: 5;ž3; 5;) to Muhammad as important. According to the Qur'an, the prophets Jesus, Moses, David, Abraham, ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Islam - Cached - Similar Show more results from en.wikipedia.org
We "need" jacksquat. The "oil" scam has merely been one big money-making scheme of the Elites. Do you mean to tell me the USA could not have matched or exceeded Muzzie-world production of oil? The hell we couldn't. Who profited fro decades of sand-rat oil? The Muzzie-World and its Elite profiteers. IF NOT for flooding Muzzie-World with US petro dollars for decades, we'd be rich from keeping our wealth within the US, and Muzzie-World would still be relegated to selling camel-dung, sand, and trinkets. Wealth redistribution. Leveling the playing field. kneecapping America's World Dominance. James, you've missed the BIG picture by several planetary orbits.
No. I was on a citizens advisory board to the police on domestic violence, so I am aware of the work that has gone into changing both police and court attitudes regarding violence towards women in recent history in the United States. I am gratified to see by your post that our work has been successful. Not too long ago whether it was right or wrong would have been debated.
You can't expose a worn crucifix in Saudi Arabia, Jimmy. The Land of Mecca. Can't openly worship Christ. When was the last time an Imam kissed a Bible? (answer: Bwaaahaaa!!) When was the last time a Pope kissed the Quran? (Oooops, recently.)
I haven't given you my position. And your work had nothing to do with my opinion.
Skid Mark, between you and Abu el Bimbo, I don't know whose brain is more microscopic; Whereas his brain can fit into the skull of a flea, yours is more a theory.
Quote please. His daughter called him insane. a) The Pastor has committed NO crime (FACT) b) The Pastor WAS visited by the FBI (FACT) c) 0bama has personally referred to and called the Pastor's action a "stunt" (FACT) d) YOU just confirmed the Pastor's own daughter called him "insane." COMMENTS??
You want the US to be a Christian Saudi Arabia?
So now you're defending Muslim "marital" practices?? Will you also defend Islam's traditional "female circumcision" as well, or bestiality, or Man-boy "love? Behold the moral relativity and "tolerance" of the Left, folks.
How stupid have you become? Ask a serious question. IF it's possible.
Been beholdin' said immorality/irrationality fer quite a spell, my friend...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, This is why America is destined to blow apart at the seams. The sooner the better, IMHO. Allocate several states to the moral relative, Commies, Muzzies, militant queers, militant atheists, militant separatist blacks, Union workers, the Academe, Dems, and freaks. AND WATCH THE FUN BEGIN!!
Ask a serious question. IF it's possible. The question was rhetorical smartie pants. You can't justify our behavior by saying Saudi's do the same thing, unless you want to be like Saudi Arabia. That said these rednecks have the right to burn the koran. The proper way for the military and the State Department to deal with this, was to downplay it. Some backwater hick preacher is just some hick preacher. He doesn't represent the USA. Obama and Sec Gates should just say, "We have extremists just like Afghanistan has extremists, and like Afghanistan they don't speak for us."
False, disingenuous premise. FAIL. That said these rednecks have the right to burn the koran. Gee, thanks, Jefferson. The proper way for the military and the State Department to deal with this, was to downplay it. Yes. But instead they fanned the flames. Wanna guess why that was so? Some backwater hick preacher is just some hick preacher. He doesn't represent the USA. No sh*t. But his proposed symbolism resonates faaaar more than you imagine. Obama and Sec Gates should just say, "We have extremists just like Afghanistan has extremists, and like Afghanistan they don't speak for us." Didn't you just state that the State Dept. "should just downplay it"?? Changed you mind mid-post?
IMHO, stunt is accurate. d) YOU just confirmed the Pastor's own daughter called him "insane." You claimed Obama called him insane, the President himself and called insane. It was the Obama quote calling Jones insane that I was asking for.
Years ago my employer, who had committed no crime, was visited at home by the FBI. I have also been visited by the FBI 'cause my neighbor was being investigated for a security clearance.
0bama's entire Presidency has been a "stunt." As in circus stunt. Btw, WTH is 0bama commenting on this in the first place instead of stuffing his big maw with his 1,346th ice cream cone? Is it because...he's defending ISLAM?? You claimed Obama called him insane, the President himself and called insane. It was the Obama quote calling Jones insane that I was asking for. Read Tull's post again, Luce and this time try to understand the statement. Thanks.
Is the Pastor being vetted for 'security clearance', OR just being intimidated by gubmint Al Capone-types? Go express your 1st Amendment "right" and protest something Lucy, and tell me if YOU are visited by the FBI afterward.
No. Were American Christians who refused to condemn marital rape defending a Christian permission (they thought they were) or a cultural attitude? A Christian friend in an abusive marriage was told by her pastor that she had to stay in her marriage "even if her husband was going to kill her". Behold the moral relativity and "tolerance" of the Left, folks. Behold the log in the eye of the religious and moral superior radical right.
Probably because it became an international incident and they don't seem to handle those well at all. No I can imagine how many extremist idiots there are. Hell even I think Islam is dangerous. But hating Muslims is stupid, and the method they use to attack Islam is retarded. I meant if BO and Gates were going to talk about it they should downplay it too, by saying the above.
That's NOT a typical "Christian" pastor...IS IT, Lucy? Not that you could define what a "typical Christian" pastor is in any case. My bad. I doubt that the Pastor is even "Christian" or sane, yet you hold this as your analogous mirror to the normal practices of Islam? HAR! Behold the log in the eye of the religious and moral superior radical right. That you've cited the above as "proof" of the "religious and moral[ly] superior radical right" tells me you're quite insane.
Now you've come to your senses. Momentarily I suppose. I can imagine how many extremist idiots there are. Aka, those of us who are sick of Islam dictating to Americans, and inflicting their diseased religion and values upon US?? You'd better believe it, Gomer. Eeven I think Islam is dangerous. But hating Muslims is stupid, and the method they use to attack Islam is retarded. Do you "hate" malaria? Cancer? Death? Think again, Yoda. No compromise is possible even when a pair of dots is connected. I meant if BO and Gates were going to talk about it they should downplay it too, by saying the above. 0bama, the State Dept., and a US General have NO damn right criticizing the 1st Amendment rights of ANY Americans and helping turn a Pastor of a congregation of 50 into an international sh*tstorm. THAT is exactly what they've done. Well, f*** them. America has noticed (I mean the sane amongst us.) They've criticized this pastor faaaaar more than Muslim Major Nadal when he gunned down over 40 members of the US Army. Or the new Black Panthers. And where was the criticism of AG Holder when he called white America "cowards"? "Inflammatory" is...quite subjective to your ilk, isn't it?
Much of what you attribute to Islam is not part of the religion, but a cultural perversion just as the position of women in western culture until recently was not part of Christianity as taught by Jesus but of our culture at the time. I think this story is kind of interesting. books.google.com/books?id...isha%20unfaithful&f=false There is talk of divorce, but no stoning. She gets pissed off and leaves him. Her words to him at the conclusion don't strike me as the words of a cowed, submissive wife.
Do you have enough information for me to go look at this myself? I find that hard to believe, as rape is not a sexual act as much as it is using sex in the commission of violence.
President Barack Obama is one of your own. He is Christian.
You don't seen to grasp reality often, do you? Jesus and you are diametrically opposed beings.
Can you provide an iota of proof backing your assertion?
Btw, do you know how old Aisha was when Muhammad (piss be upon him) "married" this little girl?
In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: Ÿ3;¡0;ž7; 9; Ÿ3; 4;¡0; 7; 5; 4;ž7; 4;5; 5;46;, Nabi Isa) is considered to be a Messenger of God who was sent to guide the People of Israel (ban+ isr'+l) with a new scripture, the Inj+l or Gospel.[1] The Qur'an, considered by Muslims to be God's final and authoritative revelation to humankind, mentions Jesus twenty-five times.[2] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God rather than his own power. According to Islamic texts, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised alive up to heaven.[3] The Qur’an states that he will return to Earth near the day of judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Mas+7; ad-Dajjl ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)[4][5] along with Imam Mahdi. Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim, as he preached that his followers should adopt the "straight path" in submission to God's will. Islam rejects the idea that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, that he was ever crucified or resurrected, or that he ever atoned for the sins of mankind. The Qur'an emphasizes the belief that Jesus himself never claimed any such thing, and it furthermore indicates that Jesus will deny having ever claimed divinity at the Last Judgment, and that Allah will vindicate him.[6] Rather, the Qur'an emphasizes that Jesus was a mortal man who, like other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message. Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God (shirk), emphasizing the notion of God's divine oneness (tawh+d). Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Qur'an, such as al-Mas+7; ("the messiah; the anointed one" i.e. by means of blessings), although this particular term does not correspond with the meaning given to it by Christians or Jews. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.[5][7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
Is that your argument? That's it, that's your defence for your nasty, smug attack on someone you think is your inferior? It depends on where a person lives in this nation that dictates whether he represents the USA? Who the hell are you to cherry pick who represents the USA? Despite what you think of this man because of his location, he most certainly does represent the USA, just as much as you think you do. Just where in the g-damn hell do think the war and battles for YOUR freedoms were fought and won...fking NY, CA? Daniel Boone (a backwater hick) lived in a world (that's backwater to you) where white and Native American ways mixed. Though he competed and fought with the Indians for land, furs, and game, Boone always respected them. He also learned from the Indians. He spoke several Indian languages and could follow trails, hunt game, and survive in the forest in the Indian style. I can't help but wonder what a sniveling, lazy, good for nothing like you, who enjoys the life you do today because of backwater hicks, would think about the Battles of Lexington and Concord. You sit there and take for granted the fruits of their labour, their suffering and sacrifice, yet you actucally believe because of the location you live in makes you their superiors? The first shots were fired just as the sun was rising at Lexington. The militia, made up of rag-tag backwater hicks were outnumbered and fell back, and the regulars proceeded on to Concord, where they searched for the supplies. At the North Bridge in Concord, approximately 500 backwater hicks fought and defeated three companies of the King's troops. The outnumbered regulars fell back from the backwater hicks after a pitched battle in open territory. More backwater hicks arrived soon thereafter and inflicted heavy damage on the regulars as they marched back towards Boston You dare turn up your nose and smear a backwater hick? With the exception of a very few backwater hicks, they are the smartest men and women upon the face of the earth, constantly on guard exposing and stopping infringements upon YOUR rights and liberties. You on the other hand, are more ignorant and uneducated than any backwater hick, because over the generations, these backwater hicks have not been brainwashed like you and your future generations will be, programed to obey without question, to do as you are told, even if you disagree. If these men and women of the backwaters are so contemptable to you, just what does that make you, what have you ever done in your life that could even match up with what they've achieved? This nation is in desperate need of those backwater men and women today, but the gene pool is so watered down, I can't help but believe we are doomed! jmho!
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Be serious. Your not being able to accept his words and actions in regards to his religion is your problem. The only people who deny them overwhelming evidence he is would accuse him of hating toilets because he craps in them.
Mike, the crucifix is ILLEGAL to wear in public in Saudi Arabia as is public devotion TO Jesus AND worship OF Jesus Christ. THAT is "respect" to you? Do not mistake "acknowledgment" with "respect." As an aside, wiki is notorious for implanting propaganda for gullible readers. In this case, it's clever, isn't it? Think about it, Mike. Open the other side if your rational brain up.
I found the source of much of your post. You cut and pasted much of that and called it your words. I knew right away it was not your style, syntax, spelling and grammar.
And I thought she went to extra efforts to express her points of view here - on her own.
I can't help but wonder what a sniveling, lazy, good for nothing like you, who enjoys the life you do today because of backwater hicks, would think about the Battles of Lexington and Concord. You sit there and take for granted the fruits of their labour, their suffering and sacrifice, yet you actucally believe because of the location you live in makes you their superiors? The first shots were fired just as the sun was rising at Lexington. The militia, made up of rag-tag backwater hicks were outnumbered and fell back, and the regulars proceeded on to Concord, where they searched for the supplies. At the North Bridge in Concord, approximately 500 backwater hicks fought and defeated three companies of the King's troops. The outnumbered regulars fell back from the backwoodsment after a pitched battle in open territory. THAT was a royal clock-cleaning. BRAVO! Northeastern/West Coast pseudo-intellectual snobbery is THE most hypocritical, retarded mind-set imaginable. American history is like a foreign language for them. The spirit of East Coast "Hicks" Sam Adams and Patrick Henry laugh at Rhino's ignorance as well.
I knew right away it was not your style, syntax, spelling and grammar. Care to refute the claims, points, and mirrored opinions? ANY?? Btw, you realize 99% of 0bama's speeches and own words are "cut and pasted" onto a teleprompter, right?
If spandex girl is talking to me, yeah, I got the part about Concord online, all the rest is mine. Daniel Boone is from this area, that's why I know his history.
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Did you cut & paste your brilliant analysis from....Abu el Bimbo? Fred, gimme just ONE paragraph ALL you own on any subject (no including the track, war, or running down butterflies in your Subaru.
The Qur'an, considered by Muslims to be God's final and authoritative revelation to humankind, mentions Jesus twenty-five times.[2] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God rather than his own power. According to Islamic texts, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised alive up to heaven.[3] The Qur’an states that he will return to Earth near the day of judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Mas+7; ad-Dajjl ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)[4][5] along with Imam Mahdi. Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim, as he preached that his followers should adopt the "straight path" in submission to God's will. Islam rejects the idea that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, that he was ever crucified or resurrected, or that he ever atoned for the sins of mankind. The Qur'an emphasizes the belief that Jesus himself never claimed any such thing, and it furthermore indicates that Jesus will deny having ever claimed divinity at the Last Judgment, and that Allah will vindicate him.[6] Rather, the Qur'an emphasizes that Jesus was a mortal man who, like other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message. Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God (shirk), emphasizing the notion of God's divine oneness (tawh+d). Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Qur'an, such as al-Mas+7; ("the messiah; the anointed one" i.e. by means of blessings), although this particular term does not correspond with the meaning given to it by Christians or Jews. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.[5][7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam Hey Mike.... You just cut & pasted quite a bit here. I supposed because you cited wiki, it's legit. (eyeball roll)
Saudi Arabia does not have the U.S. Constitution. I'm glad we are not theocratic like Iran and other countries where religion is the backbone of their government. Christianity has been used similarly to do much the same thing. Catholics in England once were ordered not to practice their faith and were fined or severely sanctioned for not going to services in Protestant Churches. Christianity has evolved past the point where one would be killed or imprisoned for being a heathen. I expect that much as been the case with Christianity and nations that used that religion to put a yoke of oppression on people, Iran, Saudi Arabia and others will have a similar learning curve and develop more enlightened policies.
Murron's a plagiarist? I guess she gave it away by putting her name on graphics and quotes by others.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
The historical factual reference can only be cut & pasted for accuracy. But then they're just sniping because they are...at a loss for any rebuttal. As expected. Murron +3
So you admit most of it was yours and only a wee bit of plagiarism? Got it.
Was it 7? Seven was the age of consent in some US states up until the later 1800s.
No, she's just a little bit pregnant...so to say.
I gave credit for the source of my citation. Mammy put verbiage in her cut and paste I had to remove to ferret out the source. She did not put the stuff in a quotations box in the posting form used to write postings, used no notation such as quotation marks, and included no links. She wanted to but on the dog and generate a post that would make her seem a much better writer then she is. This is quite obvious.
Skip Intro is a Script Tracker at Liberty Flame?? I guess he gave it away when Stone and others busted him the other evening. When will you be apologizing to the posters at this forum, you POS?
Nah, there are well known protocols for citing material. IT is very obvious you wished people to think of your cut and paste as your material. You are a liar, and a plagiarist.
Since you say you can post freely at 4um you need to bring that up with Bucky. Have at it.
He should. That was uncalled for, and lowered immensely my opinion of Buck. I've had to Spybot/Adaware/Webroot scan my machine every night I come into these forums as it has lowered my confidence in the integrity of respect for my computers. I don't like that. You have a very very good point here, thanks.
Native Americans in the US.
Apologize for what, shithead? What exactly did I do? Describe it in detail.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
Cut the "mammy" sh*t, Mike - ok? You're better than that. Yes, I noted your citation. But many cut & paste and create hybrid posts without citation. You and others failed still to address her claims and assertions and points. She wanted to but on the dog and generate a post that would make her seem a much better writer then she is. Murron tries and succeeds, researches and communicates her points faaaar better than most here - and with admirable effort. This is more than can be said for the several 6th grade dopes emitting methane and contributing nothing but crapola, fake rebuttals, and out of context babbling posts here. As someone whose frequented many forums, I suppose on that count you would agree with me.
Nothing wrong with cutting and pasting, IMHO, as long as credit is given to the source.
If that is what you choose to believe and spread on this thead, or anywhere else, I can't stop you, but I don't have to look at your adolescent posts anymore...
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Ever seen the script that tells you what your IP address is when you hit a site? This "script" did less than that, it tracked nothing, stored nothing, and was completely visible to all posters. The sum total of what it did was say what city your IP was in. It also stayed up on this site for less than 2 minutes. When Buck posted it, christine saw it, thought it was interesting, and did nothing. BFD.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
BWAAAAHAAAA!!! The charges are: 1) Implanting Script Tracking to Liberty Flame before Stone busted you 2) Contributing methane to the forum 3) Displaying a 5th grade level of discourse to the forum 4) Wasting bandwidth 5) Wasting oxygen and carbon HOW DO YOU PLEAD?
Burp!
You're 100% wrong on the first, and the rest are too stupid to deal with. Back to bozo you go.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
Mammy, say it ain't so. You're going to bozo me? Me? Your bestest friend?
Bullsh*t. Those familiar with script tracking can do a bit more, oh innocent one. It also stayed up on this site for less than 2 minutes. Before Stone busted you and your interrupted spyfest. When Buck posted it, christine saw it, thought it was interesting, and did nothing. I'm sure you were privy to their PMs, eh? And 4um posters didn't mind as well? Cute story, Clouseau.
There's the other kids are doing it argument. No, I don't give anyone a free pass when they do this. I always put quotation marks when quoting, even though the quote box does <.blockquote><.I> tags to differentiate the verbiage in that box from the words of the person making the post. I don't do it for anything more then to embarrass her into doing better. The addition of verbiage to throw off a search is a common tactic used to try to get away with this tactic. But usually - as in this case - the fluff is obvious and easy to cull to find the stolen material. As for the Mammy, I notice you taking exception to my appellation and not hers'. Which is fine, I have thick skin and her slight does not bother me. And having been married to an African American woman and having a mixed race son, I have had extended in-law family that used the word in a joking manner, so I have no intention of not using it. But thanks for sharing.
I'm not wasting my presious time waiting for a rebuttal, there will be none forthcoming, just snide remarks and petty accusations, they never even touch on what the post was about..and they couldn't care less.
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
I think only reaganisright "gumps" more people than Mammy, but I could be wrong. I know that Mammy doesn't take criticism well.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
You really should use some of that "presious" time learning how to spell.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
I don't blame you for hiding like a p*ssy. Your clock was only going to get smashed into even smaller pieces.
That's how you can tell who is here to discuss and debate issues with intellectual honesty, and who's here to...masturbate like chimps on Speed.
Well, I knew what it was when I saw it and didn't like it. I got in a really serious fist fight with a man who drew back a bow pointing it at me with no arrow near him. Guess I'm just too sensitive about things, huh? I have had my computer mined and information stolen and have become much more security conscious. And I have gotten more touchy about it. I like you, actually and did not call you to task at the time as that was Stone's job, and for once he did it. In any event, thank you for not using that script anymore.
If you two have a mutual "pet name" thing going on, carry on. Having been married to an African American woman and having a mixed race son, I have had extended in-law family that used the word in a joking manner, so I have no intention of not using it. All the more reason though to refrain from "Mammy" here - the others here use the connotation for a different reason. It's a cheap shot. JMHO.
I do admit tho, I get passionate about some things that are important to me. Sometimes I think the lack of emotion, or passion, makes a person look programmed, robotical...cold, they can't get past the passion, and recognize the message, that's just me I suppose, my nature, I'm not about to change for them, or anyone else, and they can't handle it! &;-)
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Actually, I do care. I am born and raised in New England, and if you knew much about the history of those fighting in Concord during that period, you would have known they weren't 'hicks.' Quite the contrary. I took umbrage to that characterization of them, and it told me your knowledge of the War for Independence is superficial at best.
I have had my computer mined and information stolen and have become much more security conscious. And I have gotten more touchy about it. Know the feeling. That's sh*tty stuff. 95% of the posters at ALL forum resent ANY intrusion into our privacy and are MEGA-"touchy" about it. A poster at LP tried pulling the same sh*t and caught far more grief over it. And he was a good poster. Too bad. I once caught my sister's 'friend' in my room going through my drawers back in the day. He wound up getting tossed down three flights of stairs and into the street. He learned what I hope was a valuable lesson.
-- So we should have Chris Cocker do a soliloquy defending you now? Bet you if we asked he'd do it. Professional media whores are always willing to help out interns in training like you.
Compared to the "genteel" society types of New England, Sam Adams, Patrick Henry, etal. were considered "rabble." Or "hicks" these days. They were the muscle of the movement.
I appreciate and like that about you.
But...but...you'll risk missing the latest exchange between war and Freddy about lunch, the weather, and recipe exchanges.
Ethan Allen and his "Green Mountain Boys" were characterizable as hicks. Where they were from, they call people from where I was born "flat landers." In the context of the time I would say they were not hicks, but as there is no point to dancing on the head of a pin on every point of order, I will grant you the characterization is very subjective and let it go at that. People from New England have their attitude about themselves lampooned enough to know that defending my opinion of 18th Century New Englanders as best is a fools errand and will give you that point.
That's right, it's not a word I chose, but one I see among other's in reference to anyone in the south that dare disagree and fight a corrupt government. Anyway, my post, passion, misspelling, bad grammar and all, speaks for itself...aha All the education and money in the world won't do a person a damn bit of good, if they have no common sense!
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Thanks for an intellectual honesty rare amongst lefty fellow travelers.
I'm missing nothing.
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
LOL - And I should give a rats ass about Buck WHY again?? I don't give a flying eff how the ship is run at 4um or how often Script Trackers infest it. It's their problem, not mine. But it was YOU who thought I was banned at 4um. HEH!
As do I usually. When I first encountered her, I was posting locally with a guy nicked RaisedEyeBrows (REB) who I backed off of her rear when she was Mom_Grandmother on elpee. He saw her as someone who needed to be slam dunked in forum. I convinced him otherwise. That was in a time period most elpeers had no idea REB and I were posting together in the Eugene Media Center. My point to her is to be respectful of other people stuff. She should keep posting and learning. She's not a bad person at all and I appreciate that. I'm still irrtated at her, but actually like her, and will get over it.
I don't remember everything but I do remember her under that name. I liked her IRS posting even though the details are fuzzy to me at this time.
How many have you "gumped", mental midget?
It is my honest opinion that he isn't. It is my opinion he went to that sham of a church because he knew an out of the closet muslim would never be elected in the United States. But who knows for sure.
Jesus is considered a liar.
Jesus is considered a liar. I guess you could say the same thing about the Jews.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
Is that you?
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
It is a link from Drudge. But I think I heard you in the background.
From 3000 miles away? That would be some trick.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
LOL...New Yawkers having an acid-reflux over a few pages of the koran being burned, but US soldiers burned stacks of bibles in their burning pits and the silence is deafining....that g-damn city deserves everything they are about to get, their tolerance and stupidity about this religion and their sharia laws will be their undoing...L.A. hasn't learned any lessona either as a sanctuary city, NY didn't learn a damn thing either...I suppose they like the sympathy they're getting for their suffering, but they'll get none from me....I have NO sympathy for anyone who would rather wallow in their vitim status instead of fighting back...fk em~ btw, I think that was 'Achmed the Dead Terrorist' shouting in the background...lol.... "I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Try and understand the following: "MOAA’s Directer of or Public Relations, Colonel Marv Harris, USAF (Ret), contacted the Office of the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs and reported back the following: OASD/PA says that an individual’s church sent Bibles translated into local languages to him for distribution. He went to his Chaplain asking what to do. The Chaplain, rightly so, counseled him about the rules against trying to convert people to another religion. Trying to convert Muslims to another faith is a crime in Afghanistan. Rather than ship the Bibles back to the donating Church and risking that they might get into civilian hands in that area, leadership elected to put them into a dumpster. Dumpster contents are burned in Afghanistan. The individual involved is not being punished. He did not ask for the Bibles and followed the chain of command in telling about them." By the way, this is an old story. All of this actually happened under the Bush Administration, not Obama.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
Killing unborn babies...thumbs up. Christ in a jar of urine. be tolerant of others. Burn a Koran. No fucking way. The bullshit piles up so high and so fast with the left you have to have wings to keep above it at all times.
Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554
Killing unborn babies...thumbs up. Christ in a jar of urine. be tolerant of others. Burn a Koran. No fucking way. The right is a puzzling bunch. Tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies - thumbs up Tell people what they can and can't do on private property - thumbs up Support actions that put our soldiers in danger - big thumbs up All the while screaming how much they love the Constitution.
You are a self described leftist. You support murdering babies. So you are evil. It is the left that doesn't respect private property...So you are an idiot. Soldiers in danger. What bullshit you are even more of an idiot. The left hates the constitution. Your buttboy Obama is an example of that...Ok Idiot.
I like Stone but he is still addicted to that ROMAN eternal Hell doctrine that I think has produced more ATHEISTS than anything else. That ROMAN eternal Hell doctrine was what got me of on the Roman Catholics (they are the originators of it) and started me posting the Anti Jesuit stuff. I have since turned to Christian Trinitarian Universalism which allows me to keep my genuine Christian beliefs without the fear to keep you in an organized church ROMAN ones.
Hell is in the King James Bible. From the original translation. You are mistaken. I like to too Coral Snake.
Read My Lips! If we here in a FREE America had used the same pathetic excuse this pussy whipped chaplain did for burning korans, do you think the muslim world would think turn about fair play and back off with their threats? This is not about burning korans, it could have been some fking cartoon of their pedophile mohhamed, or some shmuck eating a bacon sandwich in front of their g-damn mosque....this is about CONTROL! EVERYTHING OFFENDS THEM! NOTHING with these people is fair, it's their way, or the highway...
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
General Order Number 1 from the U.S. military's Central Command forbids active duty troops -- including all those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan -- from trying to convert people to their religion, considered a crime in many Muslim countries. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5431RL20090504?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews Read fast before Stone deletes my comments.
"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber
That conflicts with the first amendment. Unconstitutional.
You support government telling women what they can and can't do with their own bodies, so you are evil. Right wing idiots want to use the government to tell people what they can and can't build on their own property. Right wingers proclaim support for actions the military says will put soldier's lives in danger, proving that they don't care one iota about the lives and well-being of our military. the right hates the constitution given all they ever talk about is changing it, simple as that.
Good luck with that one. Many codes dictate what private property can be used for.
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You feel that the child has no body or existence of it own. Every year tech reduces the time needed for gestation.
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the right hates the constitution given all they ever talk about is changing it, simple as that. Osma Bin Laden stated on PBS that the reason he attacked us was because he recognized the US Military was a Paper Tiger. Paper created by the pro muslim left. Speaking of Paper that endanger US military, how is Julain Assange and his gay Roman Catholic leaker doing?
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Let the RATS have Kalifornia, Minnesota, NooYawk, and Maryland, but I wanna take Northern Virginny back from tyrannical RAT-bastards...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, As am I, but the more I learn about Islam and the Koran, the more I wonder why productive American citizens like your Portland vendor buddy who married the Jewish lady would get involved in a religion that urges you to kill all those who don't pray exactly the way you do. And as a Lefty, Mike, how do you countenance the Sharia Law that institutionalizes Anti-Feminism and Anti-Gay Rights? It makes me wonder if the term "Moderate Muslim" is a fantasy of the RAT-Media, which has lept to the defense of the Anti-American Muslims, apparently becuz RATS also HATE America's freedom and Christianity in general...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Women can't murder their babies. It is unlawful. You liberals might have made it color of law legal but it is still murder. Why do you hate babies?
Why do you hate logic?
Why do you hate logic? You liberals hate logic. Here is logic. First amendment protects free speech. You liberals are ok burning bibles and putting images of christ in uring. But no to Koran burning. Illogical. You liberals are for murdering babies in the womb. You spout some nonsense about liberal womens rights to kill their babies. Logic says that they chose to get pregnant and they ended a life. Illogical liberals. Logic dictates that the need to be moral and not murder babies outweighs some perceived right to murder your own baby, because you are some slut that just wants something shoved up your hole.
Let's stipulate, rightly or wrongly, that I am a liberal: I have no problem with burning a Koran. And I challenge you to find any post in which I so stated that they should not be burned. In fact, let's make this bet...you find a post in which I state that I am against Koran burning and I'll leave. If you can't...you never throw one of your snit fits on me again which means...no banning...no censoring...nothing...but Tull gets the anal probe treatment of posts that you've given me. Done? In point of fact, were you and I to line our posts up side by side, it would be apparent to anyone who can read that you have more issues with exercises of freedom than I do...
Yeah, Lib, unless you live in one of those "Out of country" Gated Communities servicing thousands of Americans in make believe as they deliver all that oil to you and yours.
So the OTHER religion has to be more amenable than ours? Even as we're at War with said religion? That's the same way the US massacred the First Nation. How dare they use our own against us.
(Oooops, recently.) Again, so if one of your Christion leaders 'kisses' a Quran, then that justifies another Christian burning the Quran? Faulty logic. Like everything else the US Empire has engaged in since the False Flag of 9-11: We face the tyrannical attack of organized crime having hijacked the government, which now allows the syndicates and gangs to rampage and loot across the land. The worst examples among corporatized government power assaults are the health racket bailout and the looming food tyranny bill. These are two affirmatively aggressive policies. There’s also the passively aggressive intent to allow net neutrality and the vision of democratic broadband access to be destroyed, thus dooming the Internet as a space for economic innovation and as the last consistently democratic space in this corporate enclosure zone we call a “country”. The assault on civil liberties is a hybrid of the active and passive. All of this takes place under the blackened skies of the bank tyranny and the Permanent War.
The first two US soldiers to die in Iraq since Barack Hussein Obama told the country (and the world) that we were no longer at war there were killed on Tuesday, September 7, 2010. To those with a shred of logic and common sense, this poses a problem: if we’re not at war, how do we classify their deaths? Obama Extends Bush’s 9/11 State of Emergency America to Enter Tenth Year of 'Emergency' Next Week by Jason Ditz, September 10, 2010 Email This | Print This | Share This | Antiwar Forum In a letter issued to the heads of Congress today, President Barack Obama announced yet another one year extension of a State of National Emergency which has been going on in the United States since September 14, 2001. This means that as of Tuesday America will officially be entering its tenth year at an emergency posture them seems destined to last pretty much forever.
Stone would prefer a theocracy which the elections consisting of dualling pastors. Since he has no problem with 1st world countries that have NO constitution, I can only surmise he would prefer the Israeli model complete with them starting worldwide skirmishes and conniving others to die for their protection. While they demand others adher to regulations that they refuse to abide by.
Just like they classify Korean War Vets. Victims of a 'conflict' or 'action'.
You are right, women can't murder babies. But a clump of cells inside of a woman's body isn't a baby. Again, you, because you are a conservative, think you have some sort of right to tell women what they can or can't do with their bodies. It's part of a standard pattern that fits most conservatives, they think they can use whatever power they want to institute the behaviors they want on everyone else, whether it's gay marriage, the patriot act, waging war on country after country, pushing Christianity as state religion, imprisoning Americans without any due process, and on an on and on. Conservatives hate the constitution, and they hate our freedoms.
he said we would no longer be involved in combat missions. In this example troops were attacked at their base.
In fact, let's make this bet...you find a post in which I state that I am against Koran burning and I'll leave. If you can't...you never throw one of your snit fits on me again which means...no banning...no censoring...nothing...but Tull gets the anal probe treatment of posts that you've given me. Done? In point of fact, were you and I to line our posts up side by side, it would be apparent to anyone who can read that you have more issues with exercises of freedom than I do... Lets see. Do you consider yourself a liberal? I'm not going to sift through your posts to see what you said about Koran burning. I don't really care what your view is on it. I'll take you at your word that you have no problem with it. I look at your posts more often because. 1. You post more. 2. You argue with me more. So I naturally see your posts more. Lets see. Freedom. You have a problem with people forming corporations and expressing their opinions. You may be for more evil freedom. Like the freedom to murder babies.
At the time Bin Laden attacked us, the commander in Chief was George W. Bush, his 2nd in command was Dick Cheney, and the head of the DoD was Don Rumsfeld. So what you are saying is that Bin Laden thought all three were wimps?
Again, you, because you are a conservative, think you have some sort of right to tell women what they can or can't do with their bodies. It's part of a standard pattern that fits most conservatives, they think they can use whatever power they want to institute the behaviors they want on everyone else, whether it's gay marriage, the patriot act, waging war on country after country, pushing Christianity as state religion, imprisoning Americans without any due process, and on an on and on. Conservatives hate the constitution, and they hate our freedoms. Let me correct you. Because I know right and wrong. Women shouldn't be allowed to murder their babies. If they didn't want to get pregnant they shouldn't have done the deed. Once they have created another life then that baby has rights. Unalienable rights. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Always has been always will be. If two faggots want to play with each others willies. Who cares let them. But don't try to redefine institutions that have been around since the beginning. You liberals want us normal people to accept and codify your perversions.
Don't be stupid. And I'm not talking about your misspelled words. I support the constitution. People have many different beliefs about what the Bible means. Forcing people to follow Gods word doesn't work out. It wouldn't work out. You should really stop making up stuff about my beliefs. If you want to know just ask.
Korea, the First war the US lost. Note no memorial in DC to same. ;}
he said we would no longer be involved in combat missions. In this example troops were attacked at their base. Again, the splitting of hairs. Anything but 'we're still using force to occupy this nation against it's desire. In other words, Our Colony. Crises breed denial. Whether a crisis concerns an individual’s health, career or marriage, a company’s reputation or market share, or a nation’s place in the global pecking order, powerful incentives exist within the stricken entity to aspire to a return to normalcy - and to proceed as if that result represents the only option. However, as we all know from human experience, some setbacks are irreversible. We believe the recent meltdown suffered by the U.S. and its partners on the liberal side of the global economy is one of them.
And thus the Falsity begins. FBI does not want Bin Laden for 9-11. FBI: Ted Olson did not receive calls from wife on 9-11.
It would really help if you put links to some of your quotes.
As soon as you stop making them up about mine. Your obsession with pigeon holing posters is bordering on a mental illness.
And just what gives YOU the right to institute your belief system on these women? I'm sorry, but I can't find any section in the the U.S. constitution that gives you or government the power to tell a woman that she can or can't have an abortion. Can you point me to the language that gives government this authority, because I can't find it.
Again, where in the constitution is this specified? Once again, it looks like you have decided that Conservatives should be able to take on dictatorial powers.
Bin Laden wasn't on the '10 Most Wanted List' for years afterward as evidenced by a trip to any PO, and no cell phone technology could accommodate the Olsen call at that time.
Then I guess you don't have a problem with me using my body to pick up a knife and stick it in your throat. Keep your laws off my body.
The state has not only the right but the duty to punish murderers.
I don't disagree with you on either of those points. I'm talking more in general. Some of his posts have all kinds of quotes with no source. It would make it easier to see if he is making stuff up or quoting. It is really hard to tell.
Quit being evil and stupid. You liberals think some people are sub human and subject to execution without due process. Science isn't your friend.
Same challenge as before. You just lied about me.
You won't find an enumerated power of the government that allows it to permit killing people, without due process of law, regardless of age. You seem to think that these babies have been convicted of some crime against their mother, and the sentence is death. What kangaroo court are you on?
Faulty logic. If there's ever "faulty logic" created, you are the author. Your rate of extracting "logic" has fallen to abysmal rates. Even I don't get you anymore more than 10% of the time. In a letter issued to the heads of Congress today, President Barack Obama announced yet another one year extension of a State of National Emergency which has been going on in the United States since September 14, 2001. This means that as of Tuesday America will officially be entering its tenth year at an emergency posture them seems destined to last pretty much forever. Congrats. FINALLY. One of the most logistical, astute observations you've ever made.
THAT is gonna leave a mark.
Every place on your list except Maryland is acceptable. Tale back DC and fumigate. The ports and lump crab are too important ;-) The Eastern seaboard from Jersey and south must be ours. Give 'em Mass, half of Ill., the lower peninsula of Mich., RI, Louisiana, Alaska, AZ and NM. And all the major cities. They're all gone anyway.
Most religions Like Islam, Christianity and Judaism are more concerned with social control then anything else. It would be hypocritical to just go after Islam. If we really wanted to free people, we would kill those with the most power and capital assets, ban these festering sores on the butt of humanity these religions that pacify and control people to allow the theft and enslavement that you mention examples of you find with Islam. But alas, as with George Orwell's Animal Farm, the sociological niche would be open, and new oppressors wold grow to fill it, and new nasty little religions like the ones I mention here would form to keep people under the power elite's thumb. I am not going to hit the alligator I see swimming around my boat with my oar and leave the piranha and anaconda alone. If I can't give all of them what they deserve, I won't act.
and yet Conservatives want to remove due process, arguing that the government should have unfettered power to arrest and detain U.S. citizens without due process or access to counsel. Again, just another example of how Conservatives hate the constitution.
You conservatives think that government ought to tell women what they can and can't do, and that the government ought to have the ability to arrest and detain US citizens, torture them, and hold them indefinitely without due process. Again, Conservatives hate the Constitution.
It appears go65 - like 99% of all liberals - objects to "telling women" which unborn baby they can and can't execute with forceps, and drill with a baby brain-sucking device. The abortionist liberal executioners and their enablers also object to being "told" which trash can the infant corpses should be discarded in. The nerve of those pro-life, baby-saving conservatives.
Especially if they're helpless preborn infants who can't "choose" to voice their objection to being murdered in the womb.
If we really wanted to free people, we would kill those with the most power and capital assets, ban these festering sores on the butt of humanity these religions that pacify and control people to allow the theft and enslavement that you mention examples of you find with Islam. Mikey Mac - Can you provide for us ANY case of an existing Christian theocracy on this entire planet? (and DON'T cite "The Vatican!!") Thanks.
Why don't you consider Secular Humanism as the religion (besides Islam) creating the most havoc?
I'm conservative. I think what you said is wrong and evil. I condemn torturing anyone. I don't think anyone should be held indefinitely. I think that the court that Bush set up is/was unconstitutional. I think that is a black eye on our system.
No conservative ever wanted less civil liberties. Your neo-con brethren claiming to be "compassionate conservatives" (statists), and their Dem "Progressive" counterparts the neo-libs" (statists), jack booted big government lib-tards, one and all. There's not a dimes worth of difference between D&R elites. Rank and file, is a whole different story. That's why there are so many cross over, and independent voters. The silent majority intensely dislikes both of the top two parties.
The fairy godfather of the islamic gay mafia here, will not, because he cannot, provide anything existing in the everyday lives of a Christian that could be remotlely compared to the savagery practiced on a daily basis in islamic country's. And how in the hell can 'too stupid to live' here, get his panyhose in such a wad over the 'social control' of religions, but advocate the 'socialistic control' over our assets? We live in a nation where a man, or woman, can earn as little, or as much as they want and call it theirs, that's Capitalism. Mike represents what I would call a festering sore on the butt of humanity, and an enemy to my country, and a danger to my childrens future, and I despise him for that. If my ancestors were still living, they'd pop that g-damn lazy susan but good!
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Can you explain why if it's so important to wipe out Islam because there are Islamic theocracies, why Christianity should of not been wiped out when there were many Christian theocracies. There are still countries where Christianity has too much pull, but they have evolved away from such governmental interference, as will Islam. American Muslims are very assimilated and very decent people. I am very glad we have such diversity here, and don't like the "let's have a night of the broken crystal here with Muslims as the target" talk.
That is not a religion.
You are babbling, bitch. Ge your hillbilly ass to write legibly in a way that is lucid and makes a point, and then I will answer your douche bag ass. My father was a pilot in the Navy during World War Two in the Pacific theater. I served nine years on active duty at Ft. Bragg, N.C. because I care about this country. And I used the G.I. Bill to get an education and have worked my entire adult life. And I am two years younger then you are, and a grand dad and a dad, Mom_Granny. You want war, bitch, well fine; the gloves are off.
Mike, here's you original assertion: "Most religions Like Islam, Christianity and Judaism are more concerned with social control then anything else. It would be hypocritical to just go after Islam." My challenge: "Can you provide for us ANY case of an existing Christian theocracy on this entire planet (considering Christianity has NO authority to "control ANY governmental social policies"?) The opposite has been the truth of the matter. You haven't directly answered my challenge. Prove me wrong. There are still countries where Christianity has too much pull, but they have evolved away from such governmental interference, as will Islam. "PULL"?? As in "influence"? But you claimed "social control" - NOT "pull." NAME THOSE COUNTRIES, Mike. American Muslims are very assimilated and very decent people. VERY assimilated?? Where? In Detroit?? Which Micro-pockets? Many may well be "decent." However the Islamic culture and it's Quranian value system - including Sharia Law - is incompatible with Western Judeo-Christian values of the Founders. A sizable contingent of its adherents demonstrate hostility to ALL other systems and non-Muslims. FACT. I am very glad we have such diversity here, and don't like the "let's have a night of the broken crystal here with Muslims as the target" talk. Diversity is code for Divide & Conquer. Islam remains ultimately a Death Cult and an oppressive society bent on dominance.
It IS a "religion." (Merriam Websters:) Secular Humanism: "a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith" (wiki): The term "Secular Humanism" was coined in the 20th century, and was adopted by non-religious humanists in order to make a clear distinction from "religious humanism". Fundamental to the concept of Secular Humanism is the strongly held belief that ideology--be it religious or political--must be examined by each individual and not simply accepted on faith. Along with this belief, an essential part of Secular Humanism is an ongoing search for objective truth, which is seen to be continually adapting and changing.
We want Alaska...the RATS wouldn't know what to do with it anyway...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, And isn't that the point? How do liberals build ANYTHING that's not already existing? (I mean except for primitive grass huts, cardboard box "homes," hovels, corrigated-roof shacks, and tents "cities"?) IN ALASKA?? HA!!!
You can't 'get me'. In any sense of the word. You're paid not to understand. Note the complete lack of anything above to argue your position. Just your say so. http://www.ae911truth.org/
RATS build NOTHING but Bureaucracies...RATS R LEECHES Upon Productive Society...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, I would agree that Hell per se is in the original greek and hebrew to, JUST NOT IN THE ETERNAL FORM IT WAS LATER TRANSLATED INTO IN BOTH THE LATIN VOLGATE AND LATER THE KJV. As a Christian Universalist one thing I'm into is studying NDE's (near death experiences). A predominant part of these events there is called the Life Review in which people are punished by being made to feel the PAIN, TORMENT AND GRIEF THEY HAVE GIVEN TO OTHERS. (Hitler as a forinstance would feel the pain, torment and death he gave to the 6,000,000 jews and the multi millions more World War II casualties one by one during the Life Review before going on to an eternal destiny if he was not saved. In otherwords I believe there is a type of Hell but it consists of the pain, torment and grief we INFLICT ON OTHERS coming back to us during the Life Review if we are not saved. The words translated "For Ever and Ever" for the Lake of Fire in Revelation actually means "for ages and ages" when accurately translated from the Greek indicating a punishment of unknown duration but one THAT STILL ENDS, like the Life Review as a forinstance. (The term aeon in greek or age in english Always means a period of time with a beginning and an ending, NEVER an eternity.)
Never read about any of that in the Bible. What verses are these beliefs based on? Also here is some verses I am thinking about right now Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. 17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, 18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: 19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. 20 But ye have not so learned Christ; 21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. 25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. Zech 8:16 26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: 27 Neither give place to the devil. 28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. 29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. The guest speaker at church preached about this. I think there is a reason he did.
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So are you wanting me to elaborate on some of my dealings with them while I was overseas, or just comment on how big a POS the book is?????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Rise up gather round...
Yes elaborate.
No problem; right after I finish this post I'm torching one of those little pocket bibles I keep in my internal frame backpack because they make such good camping toilet paper and torching it in a frying pan just outside the back door. Be back in five minutes or so.
Evidently you've never read the Talmud. Soooo....were you there in the role of an invader or conqueror? Or were you brainwashed into believing you came as a savior or were there for their own good? Or were you just trying to sneak off with more of their natural resources?
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
I never burned the Koran. This is a parody song.
Well, I didn't burn the Bible, but I love to threaten to when I see a silly comment like the title of this thread. Put drama without a clue in a title, and I will always reciprocate, if I'm in as good a mood as I am now anyway. ;-D
Burning the Old Testament should be mandatory. There's nothing much in the books of old Hebrew mythology other than begats and tribal wars with "God on my side".
"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.
Put on some Def Leppard and sing along to my new lyrics above. Enjoy Shit > Obama
What book will be next?
There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the ammo box. Please use in that order.
That's not true. There are plenty of passages in the OT that the Protestant evangelical death cult can twist in order to make themselves subservient to the heretical death cult known as Judaism. Not to mention the ones they can twist in order to make war upon the competing death cult known as Islam. Lucifer is smiling upon them all as they spread death and destruction throughout the world.
The whole thing no, I've had no desire to.... But I've had bits and pieces of it read to me by people I ran into in Europe... Why???? Are "YOU" going to tell me, that it's a POS too???? The only time I get upset about religion is when some low IQ pinhead is shooting at me, and is using his religion as justification for something he has "IMAGINED" that I've done to him or his people....... He's forsaking using decency and common sense in dealing with me and letting his idiotic beliefs in his idiotic religion rule his mind and life..... So.... since the Jews haven't shot at me I'm not going to get very interested in what the Talmud says.... I'll leave that to the ones who believe and study what's in the Talmud, and to the ones who hate the Jews because of their religion and want to use their words/beliefs against them!!!!! Some people need religion and some don't.... Some people need to believe in something greater than them and some are perfectly happy with just believing in themselves and their abilities..... If a "GOD" exists or has existed then I'm alright with that, if one hasn't existed then I'm alright with that too.....
Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!
Or were you just trying to sneak off with more of their natural resources? No... I was there at the invitation of that government in a non-combatant roll... I was in a Heavy Construction outfit at that time and we had no weapons with us, only tools for building things....
Quiz of the Day: Who made the statement "The world would be a better place if only Men were to vote?????? HINT: It was a woman!!!
Karzai the clown wants to put U.S. Troops on trial for accidently burning the Koran. I say it is your duty to burn the Koran. Muslim, Muslim Gettin Even All right I got something to say Yeah, it's better to burn Korans Yeah, than to let them stay All right Ow Gonna start a fire C'mon! Rise up! gather round Take the Koran throw it to the ground Burn it up let's go for broke Watch the night go up in smoke Burn on, Burn On Drive muzzies crazier, no serenade No fire brigade, just Pyromania What do you want? What do you want? I want Koran To Burn, yes I do Long live The Bible Oh let's go, let's strike a light We're gonna blow like dynamite I don't care if it takes all night Gonna set this book alight What do you want? What do you want? I want The Koran To Burn, All right! Long live The Bible Rock of ages, rock of ages Still smokin', keep a-smokin' Rock of ages, rock of ages Still blazin', Really Blazin' We got the power, got the glory Just say you need it and if you need it Say yeah! Heh heh heh heh Now listen to me It's Burnin', Burnin', I got the fever I know for sure, there ain't no cure So feel it, don't fight it, go with the flow Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme some charcoal What do you want? What do you want? I want That Koran To Burn, You betcha Long live The Bible We're gonna burn this damn book down Down to the ground Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh
Timely bump for the people who worship the child rapist Mohammad. I piss on mohammad.
I do lyrics too Mud. This is to Def Leppards Pyromania. Muslim, Muslim Gettin Even All right I got something to say Yeah, it's better to burn Korans Yeah, than to let them stay All right Ow Gonna start a fire C'mon! Rise up! gather round Take the Koran throw it to the ground Burn it up let's go for broke Watch the night go up in smoke Burn on, Burn On Drive muzzies crazier, no serenade No fire brigade, just Pyromania What do you want? What do you want? I want Koran To Burn, yes I do Long live The Bible Oh let's go, let's strike a light We're gonna blow like dynamite I don't care if it takes all night Gonna set this book alight What do you want? What do you want? I want The Koran To Burn, All right! Long live The Bible Rock of ages, rock of ages Still smokin', keep a-smokin' Rock of ages, rock of ages Still blazin', Really Blazin' We got the power, got the glory Just say you need it and if you need it Say yeah! Heh heh heh heh Now listen to me It's Burnin', Burnin', I got the fever I know for sure, there ain't no cure So feel it, don't fight it, go with the flow Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme some charcoal What do you want? What do you want? I want That Koran To Burn, You betcha Long live The Bible We're gonna burn this damn book down Down to the ground Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh
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F You Pedophile worshipper.
Dedicated to you and dead Muslims everywhere. May all Muslims repent of being a muslim or die wrapped in bacon. Enjoy the song lyrics.
I'd rather forget they exist
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#4. To: WhiteSands, A K A Stone (#1)
Dr Ron Paul and his fellow constitutionalists will NOT stand behind your decision.
#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#6. To: Jethro Tull, A K A Stone (#5)
#7. To: A K A Stone (#0)
The Koran is a text from Satan. It ruins people and makes them evil. Burn that evil piece of shit book. Burn them all. Wipe your ass with them. Piss on them. Spit on them. Rip the pages out and line your bird cage with it. It is not a holy book.
#8. To: mcgowanjm (#6)
This would be the time when jews like Einstein left Germany.
#9. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#7)
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
#13. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
#14. To: All (#13)
#15. To: Ferret Mike, AKA Stone (#9)
Vicious hatred and intolerance is supposed to not be Christian values.
#16. To: lucysmom (#15)
#17. To: lucysmom (#15)
"Love thine enemy".
#18. To: A K A Stone (#14)
Just because the Koran is burnt doesn't mean that people should be violent or anything towards muslims.
#19. To: Jethro Tull, All (#8)
(Edited)
#20. To: lucysmom (#18)
#21. To: lucysmom (#18)
#22. To: A K A Stone (#13)
"No it is funny that you liberals never get worked up when they burn the American flag. They do it all the time."
"The founders weren't talking about Islam when they said freedom of religion. Islam is a satanist cult. They were talking about Baptists, Presbyterians etc."
#23. To: A K A Stone (#20)
"So those liberals who burnt the flag here in America should be feared?"
#24. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
As for the Bible burning the Armed Forces did, it was not an act of protest, it is the normal standard operating procedure to dispose of material there is no room to store, and could cause inflamed passions locally that could endanger the health and well being of troops in Afghanistan.
#25. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
The U.S. Constitution was written to be a living entity
#26. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
Many of it's believers and followers are hard working, decent people
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
#28. To: A K A Stone (#17)
If you hate them you would just keep quiet and not say anything. If you love them you would confront their book of lies and evil.
#29. To: lucysmom (#28)
#30. To: lucysmom (#28)
#31. To: A K A Stone (#24)
"You don't know the motives. You only know what they said the motives were. Regardless it is a constitutional violation for the govt to do it. Zero is derelict at duty"
#32. To: A K A Stone (#20)
So those liberals who burnt the flag here in America should be feared?
#33. To: Ferret Mike (#31)
#34. To: lucysmom (#32)
#35. To: A K A Stone (#30)
#36. To: lucysmom (#32)
the only way to ultimately destroy an idea is to destroy the person who holds it.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#0)
The Koran is a text from Satan. It ruins people and makes them evil.
#38. To: Ferret Mike (#35)
#39. To: A K A Stone (#33)
"You didn't address that it was illegal for them to do that."
#40. To: Ferret Mike (#31)
There was nothing temperamental or hateful about this disposal. The Bibles were a problem in that it would of given Taliban combatants a potent tool to sustain and deepen the warfare into a wider conflict. If the Taliban had been able to access the Bibles, they would of spread them around to cause problems for us and give themselves a propaganda coup. They wouldn't of burned them.
#41. To: Ferret Mike (#39)
I know that it isn't illegal. I know for a fact it is called for in the regulations to comprehensively and dispassionately remove any element that endangers servicemen and women and hurts the accomplishment of the mission.
#42. To: A K A Stone (#34)
The Koran isn't holy. It is unholy.
#43. To: WhiteSands (#1)
Dr Ron Paul and his fellow constitutionalists will NOT stand behind your decision.
#44. To: A K A Stone (#38)
"I lived on a military base for years. I know protocol. You pat yourself on the back a lot."
#45. To: lucysmom (#40)
#46. To: Ferret Mike (#2)
This view of yours' makes you look narrow minded and intolerant.
#47. To: WhiteSands (#3)
#48. To: lucysmom (#42)
Muslims regard it as holy. It isn't up to you or me to decide for them.
#49. To: mcgowanjm (#6)
the 'frame' of the Oil Age Movie. Lasting 120+ years so far. And this is Exactly how you get the 'truth'.
#50. To: lucysmom (#7)
Charlotte Knobloch, said the idea was "terrible and repulsive" and that it reminded her of the Nazis' infamous book-burning in 1933.
#51. To: A K A Stone (#45)
"Then why did they burn them?"
#52. To: A K A Stone (#48)
(Edited)
And it isn't up to them to decide for me if I want to burn one. Or if I support someone else burning one.
#53. To: mininggold (#52)
#54. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
I am glad we have Muslims living in the United States, and as long as the U.S. Constitution remains healthy and unmolested, there will always be religious tolerance here as per the First Amendment which uphold religious freedom as well as freedom of speech.
#55. To: All (#19)
#56. To: Liberator (#50)
"Muslims all over the Muslim world are burning American flags and Bibles."
#57. To: A K A Stone (#45)
FREE EXERCISE.
#58. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
#59. To: lucysmom (#57)
My guess is that if you want to convert Muslims you probably shouldn't join the military to do it.
#60. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#11)
AKA Stoned, did you get suspended/banned over there again?
#61. To: Liberator (#49)
(Edited)
the 'frame' of the Oil Age Movie. Lasting 120+ years so far. And this is Exactly how you get the 'truth'.
#62. To: Ferret Mike (#56)
People called the U.S. Constitution is respecting the First Amendment's call for freedom of religion.
#63. To: A K A Stone (#62)
They can practice their so called religion.
#64. To: Ferret Mike (#56)
Part of respecting the living, breathing representations of the American People called the U.S. Constitution is respecting the First Amendment's call for freedom of religion.
#65. To: A K A Stone (#62)
Others can practice their first amendment right to burn the Koran. No conflict.
#66. To: lucysmom, all (#18)
#67. To: mcgowanjm (#65)
He speaks for millions...
#68. To: A K A Stone (#59)
#69. To: A K A Stone (#48)
And it isn't up to them to decide for me if I want to burn one. Or if I support someone else burning one.
#70. To: lucysmom (#69)
"All things are lawful, but not all things are helpful. All things are lawful, but not all things build up."
#71. To: mcgowanjm, Ferret Mike (#61)
But you, Lib, have zero difficulty with Genocide of Muslims.
#72. To: Liberator (#50)
Muslims all over the Muslim world are burning American flags and Bibles.
#73. To: A K A Stone (#62)
"They can practice their religion. Others can practice their first amendment right to burn the Koran. No conflict."
#74. To: lucysmom, Ferret Mike, AKA Stone (#15)
I have a hard time understanding, in fact, I don't understand how Stone can claim to be a child of God who commands "Love thine enemy".
#75. To: A K A Stone (#58)
The soldier wasn't compensated for the theft of private property.
#76. To: lucysmom (#72)
When I was little and excuse behavior with something like that, my mother would ask, "if someone jumps off the bridge, are you going to follow?"
#77. To: A K A Stone (#59)
Zero doesn't care though, just so they don't burn Korans.
#78. To: lucysmom (#77)
#79. To: A K A Stone (#13)
No it is funny that you liberals never get worked up when they burn the American flag. They do it all the time.
#80. To: A K A Stone (#70)
"That is true. But I don't want to build up Islam."
#81. To: lucysmom (#75)
I wonder if a stoner ever used that argument when his pot was confiscated?
#82. To: Ferret Mike (#73)
And it is disingenuous to slam Jane Fonda as someone who endangered troops by going to North Vietnam and then allowing salesmen for Christianity to do the same in a country where importing the trappings of outer cultures to change what they do, what they believe and how they live is a hot button issue.
#83. To: Ferret Mike (#80)
#84. To: Jethro Tull (#66)
So for our government to throw all their power at the FL pastor for wanting to do what our military is in Afghanistan fighting for, is the height of irony.
#85. To: lucysmom, aka stone (#15)
#86. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#79)
You never hear the left say shit about those things.
#87. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#79)
"Also, notice how people on the left get apoplectic over the burning of the Koran yet don't give a rip about the killing of women who live in Sharia law????"
#88. To: A K A Stone (#70)
But I don't want to build up islam.
#89. To: lucysmom (#84)
Was the pastor arrested? If not, then the government did not used all its power.
#90. To: calcon (#85)
#91. To: Ferret Mike (#87)
Actually, you are wrong. Nobody on any part of the political spectrum here in the U.S. supports honor killings, or wears a Walmart grade happy face and ignores that problem.
#92. To: Liberator (#74)
You don't know the Word, so stop cherry-picking from the Gospel you disingenuous snake-ette.
#93. To: A K A Stone (#78)
Of course not he is a muslim.
#94. To: Fred Mertz (#67)
He speaks for millions...
#95. To: Liberator (#71)
rankly, I don't GAS if satanism or Islam is practiced on the OTHER side of the world, and away from MY civilization;
#96. To: lucysmom (#92)
Think what you like. Your opinion doesn't matter here.
#97. To: A K A Stone (#91)
A judge here in America let a muslim off for raping his wife because it was his religion.
#98. To: Jethro Tull, lucysmom (#89)
He committed no crime, yet he was "visited" by the FBI and singled out by the President himself and called insane. Why? You tell me.
#99. To: Liberator (#71)
They are retrograde, devolving, dehumanizing, GARBAGE.
#100. To: Liberator (#71)
You have ZERO comprehension that Islam is monumentally incompatible with ALL OTHER belief systems in this world that nourish freedom. This, makes the two of you painfully and obviously naive, ignorant, and ridiculously myopic.
#101. To: lucysmom (#93)
Right, and Michael wears a burka.
#102. To: lucysmom (#97)
Until very recently courts in the US did not recognize that rape could take place in a marriage. Sex was a man's right and a woman's duty.
#103. To: Liberator (#98)
He committed no crime, yet he was "visited" by the FBI and singled out by the President himself and called insane.
#104. To: Liberator, All (#71)
You'd last two seconds under a Muslim regime before committing suicide.
#105. To: mcgowanjm (#100)
That would be wrong because the Prophet Jesus is very well respected in the Muslim world.
#106. To: mcgowanjm (#104)
Indonesia!?
#107. To: mcgowanjm (#99)
#108. To: Liberator (#105)
That would be wrong because the Prophet Jesus is very well respected in the Muslim world.
#109. To: mcgowanjm (#99)
But we STILL need ALL of their OIL.
#110. To: A K A Stone (#102)
Do you agree with that?
#111. To: mcgowanjm (#108)
#112. To: lucysmom (#110)
#113. To: Skip Intro, aka Script Tracker (#96)
Lube's opinion doesn't matter anywhere outside of the closet he lives in.
#114. To: lucysmom, Jethro Tull (#103)
He committed no crime, yet he was "visited" by the FBI and singled out by the President himself and called insane.
#115. To: Liberator (#111)
You can't expose a worn crucifix in Saudi Arabia, Jimmy. The Land of Mecca. Can't openly worship Christ.
#116. To: lucysmom, All, (#97)
Until very recently courts in the US did not recognize that rape could take place in a marriage. Sex was a man's right and a woman's duty.
#117. To: Rhino (#115)
You want the US to be a Christian Saudi Arabia?
#118. To: Liberator (#116)
"Behold the moral relativity and "tolerance" of the Left, folks."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#119. To: Mudboy Slim (#118)
Been beholdin' said immorality/irrationality fer quite a spell, my friend...
#120. To: Liberator (#117)
How stupid have you become?
#121. To: Rhino (#120)
You can't justify our behavior by saying Saudi's do the same thing, unless you want to be like Saudi Arabia.
#122. To: Liberator (#114)
c) 0bama has personally referred to and called the Pastor's action a "stunt" (FACT)
#123. To: Liberator (#114)
b) The Pastor WAS visited by the FBI (FACT)
#124. To: lucysmom, Jethro Tull (#122)
IMHO, stunt is accurate.
#125. To: lucysmom (#123)
Years ago my employer, who had committed no crime, was visited at home by the FBI. I have also been visited by the FBI 'cause my neighbor was being investigated for a security clearance.
#126. To: Liberator (#116)
So now you're defending Muslim "marital" practices??
#127. To: Liberator (#121)
Yes. But instead they fanned the flames. Wanna guess why that was so?
No sh*t. But his proposed symbolism resonates faaaar more than you imagine.
Didn't you just state that the State Dept. "should just downplay it"?? Changed you mind mid-post?
#128. To: lucysmom (#126)
A Christian friend in an abusive marriage was told by her pastor that she had to stay in her marriage "even if her husband was going to kill her".
#129. To: Rhino (#127)
Probably because it became an international incident and they don't seem to handle those well at all.
#130. To: Liberator (#128)
(Edited)
That's NOT a typical "Christian" pastor...IS IT, Lucy? Not that you could define what a "typical Christian" pastor is in any case. My bad. I doubt that the Pastor is even "Christian" or sane, yet you hold this as your analogous mirror to the normal practices of Islam? HAR!
#131. To: A K A Stone (#91)
"That is not true Ferret. A judge here in America let a muslim off for raping his wife because it was his religion."
#132. To: A K A Stone (#78)
"It happened when Bush was President. But the news broke when Obama was president. He didn't do squat. Of course not he is a Muslim."
#133. To: lucysmom (#130)
Much of what you attribute to Islam is not part of the religion, but a cultural perversion just as the position of women in western culture until recently was not part of Christianity as taught by Jesus but of our culture at the time.
#134. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#132)
President Barack Obama is one of your own. He is Christian.
#135. To: lucysmom (#130)
#136. To: Liberator (#105)
"My God Jimmy. WHO are you shittin'??"
#137. To: Rhino, Liberator (#120)
(Edited)
"The proper way for the military and the State Department to deal with this, was to downplay it. Some backwater hick preacher is just some hick preacher. He doesn't represent the USA."
#138. To: Liberator (#134)
"Can you provide an iota of proof backing your assertion?"
#139. To: Ferret Mike (#136)
#140. To: Murron (#137)
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3033/is_7_105/ai_n28961285/
#141. To: Ferret Mike (#140)
You cut and pasted much of that and called it your words.
#142. To: Murron, Rhino (#137)
Daniel Boone (a backwater hick) lived in a world (that's backwater to you) where white and Native American ways mixed. Though he competed and fought with the Indians for land, furs, and game, Boone always respected them. He also learned from the Indians. He spoke several Indian languages and could follow trails, hunt game, and survive in the forest in the Indian style.
#143. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#140)
(Edited)
I found the source of much of your post. You cut and pasted much of that and called it your words.
#144. To: Fred Mertz, Ferret Mike (#141)
#145. To: Fred Mertz (#141)
And I thought she went to extra efforts to express her points of view here - on her own.
#146. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#136)
In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: Ÿ3;¡0;ž7; 9; Ÿ3; 4;¡0; 7; 33;5; 4;ž7; 4;33;5; 5;46;, Nabi Isa) is considered to be a Messenger of God who was sent to guide the People of Israel (ban+ isr'+l) with a new scripture, the Inj+l or Gospel.[1]
#147. To: Liberator (#139)
"Mike, the crucifix is ILLEGAL to wear in public in Saudi Arabia as is public devotion TO Jesus AND worship OF Jesus Christ."
#148. To: Ferret Mike (#140)
#149. To: Murron, Fred Mertz, Ferret Mike (#144)
If spandex girl is talking to me, yeah, I got the part about Concord online, all the rest is mine. Daniel Boone is from this area, that's why I know his history.
#150. To: Murron (#144)
#151. To: Liberator (#135)
Btw, do you know how old Aisha was when Muhammad (piss be upon him) "married" this little girl?
#152. To: Skip Intro (#148)
Murron's a plagiarist?
#153. To: Liberator, Murran (#146)
#154. To: Skip Intro, LF Script Tracker, A K A Stone, Murron (#148)
Murron's a plagiarist? I guess she gave it away by putting her name on graphics and quotes by others.
#155. To: Murron (#144)
"If spandex girl is talking to me, yeah, I got the part about Concord online, all the rest is mine. Daniel Boone is from this area, that's why I know his history."
#156. To: Liberator (#154)
When will you be apologizing to the posters at this forum, you POS?
#157. To: Liberator (#154)
"When will you be apologizing to the posters at this forum, you POS?"
#158. To: Ferret Mike (#147)
Catholics in England...
#159. To: Liberator (#154)
When will you be apologizing to the posters at this forum
#160. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#153)
I gave credit for the source of my citation. Mammy put verbiage in her cut and paste I had to remove to ferret out the source.
#161. To: Liberator (#149)
The historical factual reference can only be cut & pasted for accuracy.
#162. To: Fred Mertz (#150)
So you admit most of it was yours and only a wee bit of plagiarism? Got it.
#163. To: Ferret Mike (#157)
#164. To: Skip Intro (#159)
Apologize for what, shithead? What exactly did I do? Describe it in detail.
#165. To: Liberator (#160)
As someone whose [sic] frequented many forums...
#166. To: Liberator (#164)
#167. To: Murron (#162)
...but I don't have to look at your adolescent posts anymore...
#168. To: Skip Intro, Ferret Mike (#163)
This "script" did less than that [scoop up IP addresses] it tracked nothing, stored nothing, and was completely visible to all posters.
#169. To: Liberator (#160)
"Yes, I noted your citation. But many cut & paste and create hybrid posts without citation. You and others failed still to address her claims and assertions and points."
#170. To: Liberator (#149)
But then they're just sniping because they are...at a loss for any rebuttal.
#171. To: Fred Mertz (#167)
Mammy, say it ain't so. You're going to bozo me? Me? Your bestest friend?
#172. To: Murron (#170)
I'm not wasting my presious
#173. To: Skip Intro (#166)
Back to bozo you go.
#174. To: Murron (#170)
Just snide remarks and petty accusations, they never even touch on what the post was about..and they couldn't care less.
#175. To: Skip Intro (#163)
#176. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#169)
As for the Mammy, I notice you taking exception to my appellation and not hers'. Which is fine, I have thick skin and her slight does not bother me.
#177. To: Liberator (#174)
That's how you can tell who is here to discuss and debate issues with intellectual honesty, and who's here to...masturbate like chimps on Speed.
#178. To: Murron (#170)
"I'm not wasting my presious time waiting for a rebuttal, there will be none forthcoming, just snide remarks and petty accusations, they never even touch on what the post was about..and they couldn't care less."
#179. To: Ferret Mike (#175)
I got in a really serious fist fight with a man who drew back a bow pointing it at me with no arrow near him....
#180. To: Murron (#177)
"I do admit tho, I get passionate about some things that are important to me. Sometimes I think the lack of emotion, or passion, makes a person look programmed, robotical...cold, they can't get past the passion, and recognize the message, that's just me I suppose, my nature, I'm not about to change for them, or anyone else, and they can't handle it!"
#181. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#178)
If you knew much about the history of those fighting in Concord during that period, you would have known they weren't 'hicks.'
#182. To: Murron (#177)
I do admit tho, I get passionate about some things that are important to me.
#183. To: Murron, Fred Mertz, e_type_jag, war (#162)
I don't have to look at your adolescent posts anymore...
#184. To: Liberator (#181)
(Edited)
#185. To: Liberator (#181)
Compared to the "genteel" society types of New England, Sam Adams, Patrick Henry, etal. were considered "rabble." Or "hicks" these days. They were the muscle of the movement.
#186. To: Ferret Mike (#184)
#187. To: Liberator (#183)
But...but...you'll risk missing the latest exchange between war and Freddy about lunch, the weather, and recipe exchanges.
#188. To: mininggold (#156)
Since you say you can post freely at 4um you need to bring that up with Bucky. Have at it.
#189. To: Liberator, Murron (#182)
(Edited)
"I appreciate and like that about you."
#190. To: Ferret Mike (#189)
(Edited)
...Mom_Grandmother on elpee.
#191. To: Skip Intro (#171)
I think only reaganisright "gumps" more people than Mammy, but I could be wrong.
#192. To: Ferret Mike (#132)
President Barack Obama is one of your own. He is Christian.
#193. To: Ferret Mike (#136)
In Islam
#194. To: A K A Stone (#193)
In Islam
#195. To: Skip Intro (#194)
#196. To: A K A Stone (#195)
#197. To: Skip Intro (#196)
#198. To: A K A Stone (#197)
But I think I heard you in the background.
#199. To: A K A Stone (#195)
#200. To: Murron (#199)
#201. To: A K A Stone (#86)
The left is a puzzling bunch.
#202. To: A K A Stone (#86)
The left is a puzzling bunch.
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#203. To: go65 (#202)
#204. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
The Fed EXPOSED!!! The FARO RESERVE BANK!!!
#205. To: Coral Snake (#204)
#206. To: Skip Intro (#200)
(Edited)
#207. To: Murron (#206)
#208. To: Skip Intro (#207)
General Order Number 1 from the U.S. military's Central Command forbids active duty troops -- including all those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan -- from trying to convert people to their religion, considered a crime in many Muslim countries.
#209. To: A K A Stone (#203)
(Edited)
You support murdering babies. So you are evil.
It is the left that doesn't respect private property...So you are an idiot.
Soldiers in danger. What bullshit you are even more of an idiot.
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#210. To: go65 (#209)
Right wing idiots want to use the government to tell people what they can and can't build on their own property.
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#211. To: go65 (#209)
You support government telling women what they can and can't do with their own bodies, so you are evil.
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#212. To: go65 (#209)
(Edited)
Right wingers proclaim support for actions the military says will put soldier's lives in danger, proving that they don't care one iota about the lives and well-being of our military.
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#213. To: Liberator (#119)
"Allocate several states to the moral relative, Commies, Muzzies, militant queers, militant atheists, militant separatist blacks, Union workers, the Academe, Dems, and freaks."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#214. To: Ferret Mike (#9)
(Edited)
"I am glad we have Muslims living in the United States..."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#215. To: go65 (#209)
#216. To: A K A Stone (#215)
Why do you hate babies?
#217. To: war (#216)
Why do you hate babies?
#218. To: A K A Stone (#217)
You liberals are ok burning bibles and putting images of christ in uring [sic]. But no to Koran burning.
#219. To: Liberator (#111)
ou can't expose a worn crucifix in Saudi Arabia, Jimmy.
#220. To: Liberator (#111)
When was the last time an Imam kissed a Bible?
#221. To: Liberator (#111)
When was the last time a Pope kissed the Quran?
#222. To: All (#221)
#223. To: war (#218)
In point of fact, were you and I to line our posts up side by side, it would be apparent to anyone who can read that you have more issues with exercises of freedom than I do...
#224. To: mcgowanjm (#222)
The first two US soldiers to die in Iraq since Barack Hussein Obama told the country (and the world) that we were no longer at war there were killed on Tuesday, September 7, 2010. To those with a shred of logic and common sense, this poses a problem: if we’re not at war, how do we classify their deaths
#225. To: A K A Stone (#215)
Women can't murder their babies. It is unlawful. You liberals might have made it color of law legal but it is still murder.
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#226. To: mcgowanjm (#222)
The first two US soldiers to die in Iraq since Barack Hussein Obama told the country (and the world) that we were no longer at war there were killed on Tuesday, September 7, 2010. To those with a shred of logic and common sense, this poses a problem: if we’re not at war, how do we classify their deaths?
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#227. To: war (#218)
Let's stipulate, rightly or wrongly, that I am a liberal: I have no problem with burning a Koran. And I challenge you to find any post in which I so stated that they should not be burned.
#228. To: WhiteSands (#212)
Paper created by the pro muslim left.
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#229. To: go65 (#225)
But a clump of cells inside of a woman's body isn't a baby.
#230. To: mininggold (#223)
Stone would prefer a theocracy which the elections consisting of dualling pastors. Since he has no problem with 1st world countries that have NO constitution, I can only surmise he would prefer the Israeli model complete with them starting worldwide skirmishes and conniving others to die for their protection. While they demand others adher to regulations that they refuse to abide by.
#231. To: mininggold (#224)
Just like they classify Korean War Vets. Victims of a 'conflict' or 'action'.
#232. To: go65 (#226)
#233. To: go65 (#228)
At the time Bin Laden attacked us,
#234. To: mcgowanjm (#233)
#235. To: A K A Stone (#230)
(Edited)
You should really stop making up stuff about my beliefs. If you want to know just ask.
#236. To: A K A Stone (#229)
Let me correct you. Because I know right and wrong. Women shouldn't be allowed to murder their babies. If they didn't want to get pregnant they shouldn't have done the deed. Once they have created another life then that baby has rights. Unalienable rights.
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#237. To: A K A Stone (#229)
Marriage is between a man and a woman. Always has been always will be.
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#238. To: A K A Stone (#234)
t would really help if you put links to some of your quotes.
#239. To: go65 (#236)
#240. To: go65 (#236)
And just what gives YOU the right to institute your belief system on these women?
#241. To: mininggold (#238)
And just what gives YOU the right to institute your belief system on these women?
#242. To: go65 (#237)
Again, where in the constitution is this specified? Once again, it looks like you have decided that Conservatives should be able to take on dictatorial powers.
#243. To: A K A Stone (#227)
You have a problem with people forming corporations and expressing their opinions.
#244. To: go65 (#236)
I can't find any section in the the U.S. constitution that gives you or government the power
#245. To: mcgowanjm (#222)
Again, so if one of your Christion leaders 'kisses' a Quran, then that justifies another Christian burning the Quran?
#246. To: A K A Stone, war (#227)
You may be for more evil freedom. Like the freedom to murder babies.
#247. To: Mudboy Slim (#213)
Let the RATS have Kalifornia, Minnesota, NooYawk, and Maryland, but I wanna take Northern Virginny back from tyrannical RAT-bastards...MUD
#248. To: Mudboy Slim (#214)
#249. To: hondo68 (#244)
You won't find an enumerated power of the government that allows it to permit killing people, without due process of law, regardless of age.
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#250. To: A K A Stone (#242)
Quit being evil and stupid. You liberals think some people are sub human and subject to execution without due process.
And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????
#251. To: go65, A K A Stone (#250)
You conservatives think that government ought to tell women what they can and can't do,
#252. To: A K A Stone, go65, war (#242)
You liberals think some people are sub human and subject to execution without due process.
#253. To: Ferret Mike (#248)
Most religions Like Islam, Christianity and Judaism are more concerned with social control then anything else. It would be hypocritical to just go after Islam.
#254. To: Ferret Mike (#248)
I am not going to hit the alligator I see swimming around my boat with my oar and leave the piranha and anaconda alone.
#255. To: go65 (#250)
and that the government ought to have the ability to arrest and detain US citizens, torture them, and hold them indefinitely without due process.
#256. To: go65 (#249)
(Edited)
Conservatives want to remove due process, arguing that the government should have unfettered power to arrest and detain U.S. citizens without due process or access to counsel.
#257. To: Liberator, Ferret Mike (#253)
(Edited)
"Mikey Mac - Can you provide for us ANY case of an existing Christian theocracy on this entire planet? (and DON'T cite "The Vatican!!")
#258. To: Liberator (#253)
"Can you provide for us ANY case of an existing Christian theocracy on this entire planet? (and DON'T cite "The Vatican!!")"
#259. To: Liberator (#254)
"Why don't you consider Secular Humanism as the religion (besides Islam) creating the most havoc?"
#260. To: Murron (#257)
#261. To: Ferret Mike (#258)
(Edited)
#262. To: Ferret Mike (#259)
(Edited)
That [Secular Humanism] is not a religion.
#263. To: Liberator (#247)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#264. To: Mudboy Slim (#263)
We want Alaska...the RATS wouldn't know what to do with it anyway...
#265. To: Liberator (#245)
Even I don't get you anymore more than 10% of the time.
#266. To: Liberator (#264)
(Edited)
"How do liberals build ANYTHING that's not already existing?"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#267. To: A K A Stone (#205)
The Fed EXPOSED!!! The FARO RESERVE BANK!!!
#268. To: Coral Snake (#267)
As a Christian Universalist one thing I'm into is studying NDE's (near death experiences). A predominant part of these events there is called the Life Review in which people are punished by being made to feel the PAIN, TORMENT AND GRIEF THEY HAVE GIVEN TO OTHERS.
#269. To: CZ82 (#0)
#270. To: A K A Stone (#269)
bump
#271. To: All (#0)
#272. To: CZ82 (#270)
So are you wanting me to elaborate on some of my dealings with them while I was overseas, or just comment on how big a POS the book is?????
#273. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#274. To: CZ82 (#270)
So are you wanting me to elaborate on some of my dealings with them while I was overseas, or just comment on how big a POS the book is?????
#275. To: Ferret Mike (#273)
#276. To: A K A Stone (#275)
#277. To: Ferret Mike (#276)
Well, I didn't burn the Bible, but I love to threaten to when I see a silly comment like the title of this thread.
#278. To: Ferret Mike (#276)
#279. To: mininggold (#277)
Burning the Old Testament should be mandatory.
#280. To: mininggold (#277)
There's nothing much in the books of old Hebrew mythology other than begats and tribal wars with "God on my side".
#281. To: mininggold (#274)
Evidently you've never read the Talmud.
#282. To: mininggold (#274)
Soooo....were you there in the role of an invader or conqueror? Or were you brainwashed into believing you came as a savior or were there for their own good?
#283. To: All (#0)
#284. To: All (#0)
#285. To: Mudboy Slim (#0)
#286. To: Logsplitter, redleghunter, liberator, cz82, (#0)
(Edited)
#287. To: Al-Omari (#0)
#288. To: Jihadi (#0)
#289. To: Paraclete, stoner (#0)
For your enjoyment.
#290. To: A K A Stone (#289)
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