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Title: Former Senator, Engineers Offer ‘Proof’ Of 9/11 Controlled Demolitions
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RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/ ... rs-911-controlled-demolitions/
Published: Sep 10, 2010
Author: RAWSTORY
Post Date: 2010-09-10 11:18:32 by Brian S
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Views: 96891
Comments: 112
The nine-year-old body of 9/11 conspiracy theories includes many improbable (and sometimes contradictory) claims, everything from remote-controlled planes flying into the World Trade Center, to a missile hitting the Pentagon, to mass kidnappings of air passengers. But a group of more than 1,200 architects and engineers is building what it hopes is a scientifically sound argument about one 9/11 claim: That the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed not by fires caused by the airplane collisions, but by a controlled demolition. At a press conference in Washington DC, Thursday, the group Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth offered evidence "that all three WTC skyscrapers on September 11, 2001, in NYC were destroyed by explosive controlled demolition." The third building the group referred to was World Trade Center 7, a skyscraper that collapsed about eight hours after the main WTC towers fell. For many 9/11 "truthers," WTC7's collapse despite not being hit by a plane is the "smoking gun" proving that something other than airplanes brought down the towers. The WTC7 collapse was not addressed in the official 9/11 Commission report. "That building fell completely into its own footprint," blogger Andrew Steele told WKTV in Utica. "You can watch on YouTube yourself and use your own common sense. Even if you don't have a scientific background ... if you have two eyes, you can see that fire alone did not bring down that building." His claims, and those of the 1,270 architects and engineers who have signed on to the effort, were bolstered by the support of former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, who said in a press release that "critically important evidence has come forward after the original government building reports were completed." Gravel has been concerned with the events of September 11, 2001, for some time now. He has called for an independent investigation into 9/11. "Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE." San Francisco architect Richard Gage said the way the towers collapsed was consistent with a controlled demolition, not a chaotic structural collapse. "The official FEMA and NIST reports provide insufficient, contradictory, and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction," Gage said. "We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials." But Gage added that "government investigators at the NIST have been forced to acknowledge the free-fall descent, an indicting fact, after being presented with analysis by AE911Truth petition signers." On its Web site, the architects' and engineers' group lists facts that suggest explosives were used to take down the towers. -- Rapid onset of "collapse" WTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e. Debunking9/11, a Web site devoted to disproving the claims of 9/11 "truthers," argues that no aircraft was needed to bring down WTC7, because "while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7." "Truthers" and debunkers have been arguing for years over whether the scant photographic evidence of WTC7's south side after the main towers' collapse shows enough damage to justify the building's collapse. "All the buildings just as far away from both towers as WTC7 were hit," Debunking9/11 asserts. "The others were either very short buildings which didn't have to support a massive load above or had no fire. Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them."
-- Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a second before the building's destruction
-- Symmetrical "structural failure" -- through the path of greatest resistance -- at free-fall acceleration
-- Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
-- Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional
-- FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
-- Slow onset with large visible deformations
-- Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)
-- High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never "collapsed".
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#1. To: Brian S, mcgowanjm (#0)
Whoa Nelly!!
"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE." Whoa Nelly!! I'm all for that. But this CD stuff is moronic.
Tull Comes Home: "HI honey...I'm home..."Where have you been?" "Boinking my fellow moderator...now shut up and make me dinner..."
And then he needs to led out and hung, as an example to all current and future presidents.
"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??" The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.
Sheesh, how many times does this bullshit 'controlled demolitions theory' have to be DEBUNKED? Good Lord, ya'll gotta get a grip on reality.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm......that'll be hilarious if you are relegated .......yet again....but this time for a Fed Stint.......to selling your bag of crystal meth etched bones to cellblock customers, skank:) What's more hilarious you stupid whore is you have not figured out that your post shows up with keywords bush and hung (calm down dwarf, boners and jerx...this isn't your chance to see how bush is hung) on even google. I do hope the SS stumbles on this:):)
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is the latest Dwarf revelation: ...."the shorts and bibs I wear are of a carbon/lycra/nylon composition......and maaaaaannnnnn....just letting everybody know that makes my balls SWELL......I'm just tooooooo sexy for you all!!" ....Dwarf August 2010.............. And one from the bluehair 2-legged GPS "I always get the Carolinas mixed up for some reason." ......Fred Jerx (who will doubtless figure out the intricacy of that tricky "North / South" thing someday. Ahldoafewboners = the kind of person who can say absolutely nothing, and mean it.....aka Regurgitated Clown Floyd
hmmmmmmmmmmmm......that'll be hilarious if you are relegated .......yet again....but this time for a Fed Stint.......to selling your bag of crystal meth etched bones to cellblock customers, skank:) ...I do hope the SS stumbles on this:):) Deprived of her mental social services check, meth, Gilbey's, rusty mattress, and her drool-coated 8x10 glossy of 0bama's Commie azz...It'd be so much for her to give up....(sob, sniffle)
What's CD.
And then he needs to led out and hung, as an example to all current and future presidents. Cheney first. as an example to all current and future presidents. ;}
And I want Brent Scowcroft on why his E4B was circling the WH. And Poppy bush on what he did from 5pm to when he left the WH at 730. Barry Jennnings(whose death is still a mystery;}: i made it to the 6th floor there was an explosion beneath me The Fairy Tale and Magic: Inexperienced Muslim hijackers, armed only with knives and box-cutters, took control of four airliners, then outfoxed the world’s most sophisticated air defense system, then used two of these airliners to bring three skyscrapers down (indeed, straight down, in virtual free fall),140 and then, almost an hour later - when the US air defense system would have been on highest alert - flew a third one, undetected, from the mid-west back to Washington DC, where – thanks to heroic piloting by a man who had never before flown an airliner and who was, according to the New York Times, known as a “terrible pilot,” incapable of safely flying even a tiny plane – this third airliner went through an extremely difficult trajectory (even too difficult for them, said some experienced airline pilots) in order to strike the first floor of the Pentagon – surely the most well-protected building on the planet – without scraping the Pentagon lawn.
Controlled demolitions.
What's CD. #10. To: mcgowanjm (#7) What's CD. Controlled demolitions. Fred Mertz Thanx Fred. you're a fool, war. You believe in magic. You won't be able to understand what's happening to your life. And you'll become ignorant of it. Like this. You can't even think about how the FBI says Olson received ZERO calls from his wife on 9-11. That the parts of WTC7 burning were the Secret Service and the SEC Offices. That the Investigation of WHO shorted before 9-11 was stopped in it;s tracks. That the CIA using PROMIS/it's Iterations since can find said trades in real time. See High Frequency Trading/FrontRunning/Flash Crash for details.
Three Skyscrapers fall on 9-11. WTC7 violating ALL of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Never before. Never Since. With TWO planes. The THIRD, almost an HOUR later, 'hits' the most heavily defended fortress in World History as TWO AIRBORNE COMMAND Flying Pentagons Circle the WH and fly back from NYC. That's magic.
How is the evacuation of the Gulf Coast proceedeing, mcclown? Do you believe in magic?
Were you there? I was. And I know people who were. Including people who work for the PA and were in the buildings when you CD Moonbats claim that the charges were set. And I know fireman who worked that day and were pulled from 7 because the building was fully engulfed and unstable. A good portion of the South facade of WTC7 was destroyed by the impact of the falling buildings. The entire building was on fire.
You ***think*** a building collapsing from severe damage is order?
Were you there? I was. Here's the weak point in our relationship, war. And I now remember we've been here before. You were a street away or something. And, well, let me put up what you wrote: "Were you there? I was. And I know people who were. Including people who work for the PA and were in the buildings when you CD Moonbats claim that the charges were set. And I know fireman who worked that day and were pulled from 7 because the building was fully engulfed and unstable." The first is admissable. The second is hearsay. The PA is criminal enterprise. See asbestos $1 billion abatement. And putting a commercial enterprise on what should be a Memorial Gearden with STILL the remains of victims. Ghoulish Forever. Next. Thank you for the 'Moonbats' designation. I believe that's the first time you've made an ad hominem attack on me. Had to happen, I guess, as you insist on at least NINE Magic's happening in New York that day. Ex. How can the East Mechanical Penthouse on top of WTC 7 fall first, before the rest of the building. Working in Finance while believing in Magic is deadly, War. You should know that. You'll get your head handed to you. " the building was fully engulfed and unstable." Fires weren't reported til 4 PM. And NEVER before and NEVER since has a skyscraper been brought down by fire. And your 'friends' in the WTC7 are getting close to indictment. As Barry Jennings reported numerous explosions until he was pulled out. Barry Jennings death has still not been explained.
You ***think*** a building collapsing from severe damage is order? NIST, to this day refuses to release any pics/vids from the South side. And you'll need to source the severe damage. I've seen the fires on 7th floor-the SS offices. And 12th floor-the SEC offices. Both critical, but in a criminal way, not building physical. 8D Come on, war. Let me help you to the light.
Videos of Southside fully engulfed
Good Morning, war. Thanx for your quick response. And having that vid up and ready. ;} And that is the WEST side. SW side to be exact. You can see nothing of the South side due to the SMoke.from those two floors rising. FULLY ENGULFED? Not. And these are what kind of fires? Burning what? unless they're acetylene/ forced oxygen, you've got LESS thab what NIST claimed melted the other WTC's. Why build foundries if this is all you need to melt heat resistant(over 1500 degrees steel. More Science, Less Magic, war. And I still need those South Side pics/vids that NIST is holding back. Kinda criminal that. 8D
I worked at`1 Liberty Plaza which sustained severe damage from the collapse of the South Tower. I was standing on the corner of Liberty and Church when the second plane went in. Do you know where the South Tower was? The plane went in on the right of the building on the Liberty Street side . I know firemen, people who worked for the PA or a company based in every building and I know what I saw and experienced. I know a PA worker who survived the first bombing and died in the second. I saw and spoke with his widow yesterday. I know a PA worker who worked a 48 the weekend that you folks claim that the charges were set. He thinks you folks are Looney Tooons. My father in-law works for a property manager that contracts with the PA for ventilation repair. He worked in WTC7 the same weekend you claim the charges were set.
You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face? As for burning what...the building had 100% occupancy...
I worked at`1 Liberty Plaza which sustained severe damage from the collapse of the South Tower. I was standing on the corner of Liberty and Church when the second plane went in. Do you know where the South Tower was? The plane went in on the right of the building on the Liberty Street side . Ok, and you said that lest anniversary too, I believe. I've got mechanics in the Basement of WTC N and Jennings IN the WTC7, saying multiple explosions, 50 ton presses disappearing in same. Next. We're not talking about planes here and now. We're talking about the SOUTH side of the WTC 7 NOT hit by a plane.
Me too. Like Rastucci saying WTC7 was either going to come down on it's on or be brought down. And NOT so amazingly, you can't FIND Rastucci in a google of WTC7. Like he's been scrubbed or something, eh, war? Had to go over to my other site, to pull this out. I'm sure you and your other White House Conspiracy Theorists will appreciate it: 8D " Minute 1:21 Brian Williams (and it's Ashley Bancroft, my bad;}: 'It's not unlike an active volcano'. I can't tell you how much time I spent arguing v the WH CT'ers on Pyroclastic Flow. And there's ONLY one way to get pyroclastic flow. shaped charges. OR there's a real live Volcano in Manhattan. ;} 1:33 Rastucci NYFD, announces he's a Co Conspirator to Brian Williams: "It would come down on it's own, or it would be taken down." Rastucci can be indicted now. JENNINGS: Many thanks. Mark Obenhaus, one of our senior producers on the phone, who saw the incident, describes it as a large plane, not sure what the color was, not sure the number of engines it had, which, in his mind--he's a very experienced reporter--reflects the speed and surprise with which this aircraft--this is the first one we're talking about now, just before 9:00--approached the World Trade Towers from the north, causing the first huge gap in the building. And Mark describes the plane being engulfed in some respects by the building. Didn't see wings fall off. Saw it go absolutely, totally, almost as he described it, into the building itself. The White House, of course, is--is--is--has leapt to the forefront of people's concern this morning. And there is a plane circling the White House at the moment. And they're clearing the grounds there. We have--that's a report which may be misleading in that it may presume an attack where as we just discovered a moment ago that what we had was an additional airplane in New York airspace was a security operation. I think probably most Americans know that there is no building in the country which is--which is heavily defended--I shouldn't say deemed secure--but...(network audio difficulties)...but a battery of anti-aircraft missiles on the top of the White House itself. Jennings above describing the TWO E4B Airborne Control Planes: One in DC, the other in NYC. Arrest them now. Brent Scowcroft/Poppy/ and No Pulse Cheney.
'We Folks' have had to do a lot more than claim. And it's only taken 9 years for me to find that Rastucci NYFD quote and vid. And I've been on this since CBS, MSM, et al REFUSED to put a camera live on WTC7 that fateful afternoon, even as CNN/BBC were airing LIVE shots of WTC7 'collapsed' 24 min before WTC7 fell! Even as the SAME live shots showed the WTC7 up and ok. But That just doesn't bother you, war, does it? And there's just a mountain of info/pics on NORAD STILL to this day not producing a coherent timeline(among other anomalies) that doesn't bother you as well. The Empire must be very good to you, war. ;} But less and less 'goodness' every day. Cause that's how Evil works, war. First, you get paid off. Second, you think Evil's gonna win. Third, that's as good as Evil will be for you. Fourth, you see your chains being forged.
History Channel ran a two hour program that totally and completely debunked every single 'Loose Change' claim...ALL FOUR VERSIONS of that inspid video conspiracy compliation. 9/11 Truthers are no different than any other kook religion at this point.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
EXACTLY, where IS that smoke coming from? And why won't NIST release ANY pics,vids from the South side. We know they have them. Who is NIST protecting war? And why won't you realize that smoke is rising from the TWO floors in the SW corner? And that there is Nothing available in the WTC 7 that in less than 4 hrs, can melt Fire Resistant steel. Nothing. And it takes at least a month to wire a building for CD, eh?
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down." http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911security.html
9/11 Truthers are no different than any other kook religion at this point. You're the 2nd I've seen refer to the History Ch as an Authority. Wrong. The HC can't even show an uncencored Zapruder Film. Like the WTC7 is the Zapruder Film of 9-11. Only CD could collapse the E Machanical Penthouse on top before the rest of the building falls. Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down." http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911security.html
The Fairfax police public statement on the death made no reference to Marvin Bush, his address, or the videotape of the deceased employee with President Bush: "A 62-year-old Alexandria area woman died after being pinned between a rolling car and a building. The crash happened on Monday, around 9 pm, near the intersection of Fort Hunt Road and Edgehill Drive. Bertha Champagne had gone outside to get something from a car in a driveway. The car, which was left in gear, began to roll forward. Champagne was pinned between the car and a small building next to the driveway. The car continued to roll down the driveway, crossed Fort Hunt Road, and came to rest in a wooded area. Champagne was taken to Inova Mount Vernon Hospital where she was pronounced dead." In fact, an attempt by this editor to obtain the police report in 2003 was unsuccessful, the Fairfax police public affairs officer claiming that it was only releasable to the "Accident Reconstruction Team." Some observers wondered if Secret Service agents might have been able to assist Champagne when her car pinned her. According to the Secret Service in Washington, the agency only provides protection to presidential siblings if an Executive Order authorizes such action. A Secret Service spokesperson emphasized there was no current Secret Service protection for Marvin Bush at the time of Mrs. Champagne's death. meet the bush family Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother, was a principal in a .... with John Hinckley's brother the day after the Reagan Assassination attempt. ... www.iwilltryit.com/marvin1.htm - Cached - Similar The Bush Family-Growing Non stop as America dies since JFK's Assassination
And that's just shit slingin' there. 'kook' religion means you're an authority on religion. Which means that you have some kinda Special Relationship with god. Care to expound on that relationship,BE? Didn't think so. ;}
As you can tell from the video WTC 7.
I'll need a link from the NIST stating that they won't. That requested, enough video exists.
Indict Photographer Steve Spak and Ground Zero Superintendent(WTF IS THAT!?;} Charlie Vichers Two Floors 7(SS) and 12 (SEC). Fires not noticed til 4 pm.
Indict FDNY Robert LaRocco.
Nice shot of the HOLE in WTC 6. Any ideas of what can cause a massive hole where a building once stood? LMFAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1suwmOgBfNM&feature=player_embedded From this page. Note the number of views this pages WH CT sites are getting?
Hope that's Rastuccio. Can't find a pic of him. Can't even google him for that matter. Arrest who ever that guy is so we can find out who his boss is. ;} And you can't see shit in that vid shown just previous.
there's no way to stop it--'Cuzz you have to go up there to put it out and it's already...the, the, the, structural integrity is not there, in the building. Lying Mother Fucker. Arrest his Lyin Ass now. Note the context change after 'already... multiple 'the's. 8D
Arrest him now. So we can find out where he got this info. Was this before they got Barry Jennings out or after?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE."
#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)
#3. To: Fred Mertz (#1)
Whoa Nelly!!
#4. To: Brian S (#0)
#5. To: whiningskank, Liberator (#3)
And then he needs to led out and hung,
#6. To: e_type_jag (#5)
And then he needs to led out and hung,
#7. To: war (#2)
But this CD stuff is moronic.
#8. To: mininggold (#3)
#9. To: Fred Mertz (#1)
#10. To: mcgowanjm (#7)
What's CD.
#11. To: war, Fred Mertz, All (#7)
(Edited)
But this CD stuff is moronic.
#12. To: All (#11)
#13. To: mcgowanjm (#11)
You believe in magic.
#14. To: mcgowanjm (#11)
(Edited)
You're a o fool, war.
#15. To: mcgowanjm (#12)
(Edited)
WTC7 violating ALL of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
#16. To: war (#14)
You're a o fool, war.
#17. To: war (#15)
#18. To: mcgowanjm (#17)
(Edited)
NIST, to this day refuses to release any pics/vids from the South side.
#19. To: war (#18)
(Edited)
#20. To: mcgowanjm (#16)
You were a street away or something.
#21. To: mcgowanjm (#19)
FULLY ENGULFED?
#22. To: war (#20)
#23. To: war (#20)
(Edited)
I know firemen
#24. To: war (#20)
you folks claim
#25. To: Brian S (#0)
#26. To: war (#21)
You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face?
#27. To: All (#26)
#28. To: Badeye (#25)
History Channel ran a two hour program that totally and completely debunked every single 'Loose Change' claim...ALL FOUR VERSIONS of that inspid video conspiracy compliation.
#29. To: All (#28)
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport.
#30. To: Badeye (#25)
9/11 Truthers are no different than any other kook religion at this point.
#31. To: mcgowanjm (#26)
EXACTLY, where IS that smoke coming from?
#32. To: mcgowanjm (#26)
And why won't NIST release ANY pics,vids from the South side.
#33. To: mcgowanjm (#26)
#34. To: war (#33)
#35. To: All (#34)
#36. To: war (#33)
#37. To: war (#33)
#38. To: war (#33)
see where the white smoke is ? see this building leaning,,,it's definitely coming down.
#39. To: war (#33)
At 00:38
#40. To: war (#33)
I think they said they had 7 to 10 flrs that were freestanding and they weren't going to send anyone in." FDNY Chief Thomas McCarthy
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