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Title: Former Senator, Engineers Offer ‘Proof’ Of 9/11 Controlled Demolitions
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/ ... rs-911-controlled-demolitions/
Published: Sep 10, 2010
Author: RAWSTORY
Post Date: 2010-09-10 11:18:32 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 96737
Comments: 112

The nine-year-old body of 9/11 conspiracy theories includes many improbable (and sometimes contradictory) claims, everything from remote-controlled planes flying into the World Trade Center, to a missile hitting the Pentagon, to mass kidnappings of air passengers.

But a group of more than 1,200 architects and engineers is building what it hopes is a scientifically sound argument about one 9/11 claim: That the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed not by fires caused by the airplane collisions, but by a controlled demolition.

At a press conference in Washington DC, Thursday, the group Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth offered evidence "that all three WTC skyscrapers on September 11, 2001, in NYC were destroyed by explosive controlled demolition."

The third building the group referred to was World Trade Center 7, a skyscraper that collapsed about eight hours after the main WTC towers fell. For many 9/11 "truthers," WTC7's collapse despite not being hit by a plane is the "smoking gun" proving that something other than airplanes brought down the towers. The WTC7 collapse was not addressed in the official 9/11 Commission report.

"That building fell completely into its own footprint," blogger Andrew Steele told WKTV in Utica. "You can watch on YouTube yourself and use your own common sense. Even if you don't have a scientific background ... if you have two eyes, you can see that fire alone did not bring down that building."

His claims, and those of the 1,270 architects and engineers who have signed on to the effort, were bolstered by the support of former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, who said in a press release that "critically important evidence has come forward after the original government building reports were completed."

Gravel has been concerned with the events of September 11, 2001, for some time now. He has called for an independent investigation into 9/11.

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE."

San Francisco architect Richard Gage said the way the towers collapsed was consistent with a controlled demolition, not a chaotic structural collapse.

"The official FEMA and NIST reports provide insufficient, contradictory, and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction," Gage said. "We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials."

But Gage added that "government investigators at the NIST have been forced to acknowledge the free-fall descent, an indicting fact, after being presented with analysis by AE911Truth petition signers."

On its Web site, the architects' and engineers' group lists facts that suggest explosives were used to take down the towers.

-- Rapid onset of "collapse"
-- Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a second before the building's destruction
-- Symmetrical "structural failure" -- through the path of greatest resistance -- at free-fall acceleration
-- Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
-- Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional
-- FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples

WTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
-- Slow onset with large visible deformations
-- Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)
-- High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never "collapsed".

Debunking9/11, a Web site devoted to disproving the claims of 9/11 "truthers," argues that no aircraft was needed to bring down WTC7, because "while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7."

"Truthers" and debunkers have been arguing for years over whether the scant photographic evidence of WTC7's south side after the main towers' collapse shows enough damage to justify the building's collapse.

"All the buildings just as far away from both towers as WTC7 were hit," Debunking9/11 asserts. "The others were either very short buildings which didn't have to support a massive load above or had no fire. Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them."

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#1. To: Brian S, mcgowanjm (#0)

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE."

Whoa Nelly!!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-09-10   11:26:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE." Whoa Nelly!!

I'm all for that.

But this CD stuff is moronic.

war  posted on  2010-09-10   11:34:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#2)

But this CD stuff is moronic.

What's CD.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-11   8:42:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war, Fred Mertz, All (#7) (Edited)

But this CD stuff is moronic.

What's CD.

#10. To: mcgowanjm (#7)

What's CD.

Controlled demolitions.

Fred Mertz

Thanx Fred.

you're a fool, war.

You believe in magic.

You won't be able to understand what's happening to your life.

And you'll become ignorant of it. Like this.

You can't even think about how the FBI says Olson received ZERO calls from his wife on 9-11.

That the parts of WTC7 burning were the Secret Service and the SEC Offices.

That the Investigation of WHO shorted before 9-11 was stopped in it;s tracks. That the CIA using PROMIS/it's Iterations since can find said trades in real time. See High Frequency Trading/FrontRunning/Flash Crash for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-11   9:46:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

Three Skyscrapers fall on 9-11.

WTC7 violating ALL of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Never before. Never Since. With TWO planes.

The THIRD, almost an HOUR later, 'hits' the most heavily defended fortress in World History as TWO AIRBORNE COMMAND Flying Pentagons Circle the WH and fly back from NYC.

That's magic.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-11   9:50:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#12) (Edited)

WTC7 violating ALL of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

You ***think*** a building collapsing from severe damage is order?

war  posted on  2010-09-12   7:25:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#15)

You ***think*** a building collapsing from severe damage is order?

NIST, to this day refuses to release any pics/vids from the South side.

And you'll need to source the severe damage.

I've seen the fires on 7th floor-the SS offices. And 12th floor-the SEC offices.

Both critical, but in a criminal way, not building physical. 8D

Come on, war. Let me help you to the light.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-12   9:21:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#17) (Edited)

NIST, to this day refuses to release any pics/vids from the South side.

Videos of Southside fully engulfed

war  posted on  2010-09-12   9:24:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#18) (Edited)

Good Morning, war.

Thanx for your quick response. And having that vid up and ready. ;}

And that is the WEST side. SW side to be exact. You can see nothing of the South side due to the SMoke.from those two floors rising.

FULLY ENGULFED? Not.

And these are what kind of fires? Burning what? unless they're acetylene/ forced oxygen, you've got LESS thab what NIST claimed melted the other WTC's.

Why build foundries if this is all you need to melt heat resistant(over 1500 degrees steel.

More Science, Less Magic, war.

And I still need those South Side pics/vids that NIST is holding back. Kinda criminal that. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-12   9:30:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#19)

FULLY ENGULFED?

You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face?

As for burning what...the building had 100% occupancy...

war  posted on  2010-09-12   9:37:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#21)

You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face?

EXACTLY, where IS that smoke coming from?

And why won't NIST release ANY pics,vids from the South side.

We know they have them. Who is NIST protecting war?

And why won't you realize that smoke is rising from the TWO floors in the SW corner?

And that there is Nothing available in the WTC 7 that in less than 4 hrs, can melt Fire Resistant steel. Nothing.

And it takes at least a month to wire a building for CD, eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-12   10:48:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mcgowanjm (#26)

war  posted on  2010-09-12   12:20:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war (#33)

Light shines thru building?

As the East Mechanical Penthouse drops first?

The Only way the E Mech Penthouse drops first is that EVERYTHING to the Basement has been blow away.

Free Fall.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war, All (#45)

Rapid Breaking of Columns Approx 7 floors buckle.

And the Columns 'rapidly broke' why?

The approx 7 floors 'buckle' why?

I really appreciate you finding this vid, war.

An indictment for everyone involved in it's making.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: All (#46)

NO SUDDEN ONSET

I didn't see that at first. It's down in the corner.

WTF!?

What's a sudden onset?

From the Time the Penthouse gives way to ground is what? less than 10 seconds? For a 40+ Floor Building?

Crazyland...

And then my hero Barry Jennings. Even with the Cut out. Barry contradicts the FDNY indicted ones from earlier in the vid. All of the Conversation is about all the explosions causing all of the damage before the FDNY pulls Barry out of a hole the FDNY 'made'(WTF!?;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:16:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: war, All (#47)

When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty seven stories. -FDNY Asst Chief Harry Myers

Arrest him.

Amazing how ALL of these folks have time to stand around giving interviews about a once in a lifetime event. And no photos/no videos of the South Side.

That NIST has released, anyway. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:19:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war, All (#48)

At 1:41

Arrest Everyone quoted.

"When everyone heard that pancaking sound.."

Especially this guy. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#49)

At 1:41

And I'll need to see the source of that "Illustrated Diagram".

Where did they get that info of the SOUTH SIDE.

Now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:23:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war, All (#50)

what fire did to WTC 5 [except it didn't have 40,000 t on it]

IN RED

Like that means something.

Tell me what that means, war.

WTF is WTC 5? A successful CD? Unlike WTC 7 with a dead SS Agent inside? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:25:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war, All (#51)

We spoke with a FDNY Chief who has his men holed up in the US Post Office

So finally we're at the end of this 'simulated event'.

And once again, we can't ever quite get to the source of the Engineering Major who JUST KNOWS in spite of the fact that NO SKYSCRAPER has EVER fallen due to fire,

That WTC 7 will be the THIRD building to do so.

ALWAYS and ANonymous Source saying the WTC 7's coming down. No one quoted surprised one bit. Like this happens all the time. Except they say it doesn't.

but they're calm enough to chat. Again, but not calm enough to get a few camera/vid shots of this ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT. please.

Arrest Everyone giving quotes at 1:48. Especially this guy. I want to personally interrogate this lying bastard:

"There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered through there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably a third of it, right in the middle of it."-Capt Chris Boyle.

How many inconsistencies can you find in this statement, war?

HUGE. SCATTERED. THIRD. MIDDLE. but ZERO photos/vid of same.

Just everyone standing around with their dicks in their hand wondering when:

And lookie here. After Nine years, Rastucci and I are the ONLY hits on this self incriminating piece.

TRULY AMAZIN' LMFAO James 8D # LF: Former Senator, Engineers Offer 'Proof' Of 9/11 Controlled ... You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face? ... We're not talking about planes here and now. We're talking about the SOUTH ... Like Rastucci saying WTC7 was either going to come down on it's on or ... 1:33 Rastucci NYFD, announces he's a Co Conspirator to Brian Williams: ... www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=13014&Disp=16 #

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:42:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: mcgowanjm (#54) (Edited)

And once again, we can't ever quite get to the source of the Engineering Major who JUST KNOWS in spite of the fact that NO SKYSCRAPER has EVER fallen due to fire,

Fire was but one contributor...massive explosions, buildionigs collapsing onto each other...the engineering was done by the people who carried the plan out...they got eactly what they wanted in 2001 what they had wanted in 1993.

Sorry, but your rebuttals have been nothing more than "Liar liar pants on fire."

Which is pretty much what Alex Jones has been saying for years with 0 evidence.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   9:45:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#55)

massive explosions, buildionigs collapsing onto each other.

Again, massive explosions from where?

Source please.

buildings collapsing onto WTC7 from where? Again, I'll need a pic/vid SHOWING the South Side.

Like where did that diagram from your movie showing the damage come from?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:20:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: mcgowanjm (#59) (Edited)

Again, massive explosions from where?

The planes crashing into the building...the energy created from impact of one massive structure into another.,

Sources

You're talking to an eyewitness.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:23:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war (#63)

The planes crashing into the building...the energy created from impact of one massive structure into another.,

Sources

You're talking to an eyewitness.

Then like SO MANY eyewitnesses, your mempry is faulty.

Like those Eyewitnesses who claim (ALL working for USAToday or the GAY Gannon/WH or miltary-and just WHERE is that VDOT film, eh?-just sayin';} a 757 went thru a 16 ft hole in the Pentagon?

Please. The Energy created by what? The Thermate? or the Twice(3 times in your view) exploding kerosene?

Again. No pics of South Side. Only liars declarations.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:30:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: mcgowanjm (#68)

Again. No pics of South Side. Only liars declarations.

You've offered absolutely nothing that impeaches the statements of those firemen.

So I refer you back to my porevious observation that your rebuttals are nothing more than "Liar liar pants on fire."

On a side note, you should PING Tull to this thread; this may be your admittance to 4um. They are all CDCT's over there.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:34:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: war (#71)

ou've offered absolutely nothing that impeaches the statements of those firemen.

Please.

# LF: Former Senator, Engineers Offer 'Proof' Of 9/11 Controlled ... You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face? ... We're not talking about planes here and now. We're talking about the SOUTH ... Like Rastucci saying WTC7 was either going to come down on it's on or ... 1:33 Rastucci NYFD, announces he's a Co Conspirator to Brian Williams: ... www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=13014&Disp=16 #

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:36:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: mcgowanjm (#73)

Please.

No...in reality.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:36:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: war (#75)

Please.

No...in reality.

Where the Most Realistic One wins.

;}

MetaphorInVain: december 2008 - [ Translate this page ] "Keep your eye on that building, it's coming down" "Move it back here. .... Building 7 down because I heard that they were going to bring it down because it ... twoofersmysigapalats.blogspot.com/2008_12_01_archive.html - Cached

See how that works, war? A source.

Too bad. But eventually everyone has to take a side.

But we can talk Finance if you want to agree on something. The PPT/Goldman/HFT/Flash Crashing and all. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:40:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: mcgowanjm (#77) (Edited)

ee how that works, war? A source.

You've linked me to a blog.

I've posted several videos the contents of which you've absolutely denied what they are. So please don;t accuse me of not providing sources. I have. DIRECT sources. Not blogs.

BTW, I cannot find where you posted an NBC/MSNBC video. Can you relinnk please.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:43:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: war (#80)

BTW, I cannot find where you posted an NBC/MSNBC video. Can you relinnk please.

Here's local NBC. Heavily edited, BTW.

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-09-08/new-wtc-7-video-posted-youtube

I'll be right back with the Ashley Bancroft/Brian Williams piece.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:54:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: All (#88)

I'll be right back with the Ashley Bancroft/Brian Williams piece.

Almost there. ;} In the meantime. as you're looking at my youtube:

"Just in:

New vid released by NIST (Lyin Motherfuckers that they are/and this is heavily edited;}:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukO3hENZ9zA&feature=player_embedded

When they show the burning floors of the WTC 7 re read this:

Now, from an interview with Bob Weaver, the Assistant Special Agent in charge of the US Secret Service New York Field Office(WTC 7):

At this point in the conversation, a colleague handed Weaver a picture of his former office in flames.

"I can't believe this picture," he said, the tone of his voice lowering. "There are flames shooting out of my office. There is no other fire on that side of the building (the West Broadway side) but there is in my office. It's incredible.

"I knew we lost everything in the attack, but I guess my friend wanted to be sure I didn't forget."

That would be an interesting picture to see, I think.

Cause there's the 'interesting pic. Shocked Roll Eyes Cool

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:09:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: All (#91)

Closer:

Directions to 7 World Trade Center File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View Walk four blocks south on West Broadway to Barclay St. and one block west on Barclay to Greenwich St. City Hall - R, W Trains ...

www.silversteinproperties.com/.../c71bc9ee-d66f-49fd-a542-8acc8f3237ce_directions-to-7-world-trade-center.pdf

'Pull it'.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:10:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war, All (#92)

Still workin' it! ;}

Quote from: Zac on September 09, 2010, 03:04:38 PM 9 September 2010

John Young, architect for 37 years, thinks this group spreads technical nonsense but its initiative may lead to full release of WTC investigative findings. Their popular appeal is based on the USG's refusing to release full WTC investigative findings of 9/11 and the causes underlying the collapse of the buildings. Partial releases available at NIST have stimulated demands for full release. Along with many others, Cryptome has filed FOIA requests to NIST for WTC investigative findings which have been publicly acknowleged as existing but will not be released due to alleged threat to national security.

Part of this threat appears to be due to the fact that many other buildings have vulnerabilities like those of the WTC structures and owners will not make corrections unless reimbursed by the USG. Thus AES911Truth may be underwritten by the real estate and insurance industries to extort funds from the USG, as have others since 911 now a booming industry of terrroism-victims-interest groups. Professional engineers and architects are complicit in this, some involved with WTC investigations, not only those associated with this group. Security measures are a classified racket among designers and security officials who shrewdly hide behind secrecy.

Bear in mind that most architects, officials and not a few engineers are not technical wizards but highly skilled at promotion and pushing risky products for handsome fees, aided and abetted by industry lobbyists, mashed-up building codes and lax enforcement of licensing law, especially in big cities where the greatest profits come from dangerous structures. Saying this in public is termed "professional suicide," a bluff assisted by shady codes of ethics, sealed court records of failures and omnipresent national security cover-for-all-errors.

http://cryptome.org/0002/1270-ae-fud.htm

This argument is illogical. To withhold evidence that such buildings have vulnerabilities is illegal because it goes against the government's own building codes, especially if the same thing happens in another attack. For the same reason, claims of extortion are unfounded.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:11:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: All (#93)

Tanx for the Memories!!!!

" Re: Sept 9: 1,270 Architects Reveal Hard Evidence of Explosive Demolition at WTC « Reply #44 on: September 10, 2010, 10:13:29 AM » Reply with quoteQuote Modify messageModify And what I'll never forget from that day.

I knew the importance of WTC7. Never before 9.11 had ANY skyscraper fallen due to fire. And going to work (I never should've done that, btw. just sayin) I missed the two WTC's imploding.

but Dan Rather keeps sayin' that WTC 7's about to collapse. And I kept repeating. If WTC 7's about to collapse then why are we not watching it constant;y until it does.

But Dan and everyone else were too busy elsewhere. Even as so amny people were hearing the countdown.

Quote So, despite the fact that, even towards the end of the day, the fires in WTC 7 remained barely significant (from a fire engineering standpoint), the culprits finally made the decision to pull the plug on WTC 7 and rely on their formidable propaganda machinery to bulldoze any doubts that might arise. The conspirators couldn't logically wait any longer because a burgeoning army of firefighters and rescue workers had recovered from their shock and were descending on Ground Zero to begin the lengthy search and rescue effort that began that evening. For those who desperately needed the building destroyed, it was then or never and, in an effort to finally wrap things up, they put the demolition process in motion by clearing personnel from around the base of Building 7. Then, when they could wait no longer, they put an end to the spectacle at 5:25 PM, dropping Building 7 neatly within its footprint, an obvious controlled implosion so perfect it would have earned any demolition company a bonus.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:12:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: mcgowanjm (#94)

I knew the importance of WTC7. Never before 9.11 had ANY skyscraper fallen due to fire.

Nor did they on 9/11. You keep stating this as if it's supposed to have some sort of basis in fact. Fire contributed. Lassive destruction contributed.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   11:16:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#96)

You NEVER get the Official WH CT from the Believers of Magic.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20039

David Ray Griffin:

Quote Inexperienced Muslim hijackers, armed only with knives and box-cutters, took control of four airliners, then outfoxed the world’s most sophisticated air defense system, then used two of these airliners to bring three skyscrapers down (indeed, straight down, in virtual free fall),140 and then, almost an hour later - when the US air defense system would have been on highest alert - flew a third one, undetected, from the mid-west back to Washington DC, where – thanks to heroic piloting by a man who had never before flown an airliner and who was, according to the New York Times, known as a “terrible pilot,” incapable of safely flying even a tiny plane – this third airliner went through an extremely difficult trajectory (even too difficult for them, said some experienced airline pilots) in order to strike the first floor of the Pentagon – surely the most well-protected building on the planet – without scraping the Pentagon lawn.

What could discredit “the left” [Griffin lists the Apologists]more than the fact that you, some of its leading spokespersons, have endorsed such nonsense?

The Scientific Status of the Two Conspiracy Theories. Actually, there is one thing that would be even more discrediting: If, after having it pointed out to you that at least nine miracles are implied by this story, you fail to renounce your former acceptance of it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:34:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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