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Title: Former Senator, Engineers Offer ‘Proof’ Of 9/11 Controlled Demolitions
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/ ... rs-911-controlled-demolitions/
Published: Sep 10, 2010
Author: RAWSTORY
Post Date: 2010-09-10 11:18:32 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 96845
Comments: 112

The nine-year-old body of 9/11 conspiracy theories includes many improbable (and sometimes contradictory) claims, everything from remote-controlled planes flying into the World Trade Center, to a missile hitting the Pentagon, to mass kidnappings of air passengers.

But a group of more than 1,200 architects and engineers is building what it hopes is a scientifically sound argument about one 9/11 claim: That the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed not by fires caused by the airplane collisions, but by a controlled demolition.

At a press conference in Washington DC, Thursday, the group Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth offered evidence "that all three WTC skyscrapers on September 11, 2001, in NYC were destroyed by explosive controlled demolition."

The third building the group referred to was World Trade Center 7, a skyscraper that collapsed about eight hours after the main WTC towers fell. For many 9/11 "truthers," WTC7's collapse despite not being hit by a plane is the "smoking gun" proving that something other than airplanes brought down the towers. The WTC7 collapse was not addressed in the official 9/11 Commission report.

"That building fell completely into its own footprint," blogger Andrew Steele told WKTV in Utica. "You can watch on YouTube yourself and use your own common sense. Even if you don't have a scientific background ... if you have two eyes, you can see that fire alone did not bring down that building."

His claims, and those of the 1,270 architects and engineers who have signed on to the effort, were bolstered by the support of former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, who said in a press release that "critically important evidence has come forward after the original government building reports were completed."

Gravel has been concerned with the events of September 11, 2001, for some time now. He has called for an independent investigation into 9/11.

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE."

San Francisco architect Richard Gage said the way the towers collapsed was consistent with a controlled demolition, not a chaotic structural collapse.

"The official FEMA and NIST reports provide insufficient, contradictory, and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction," Gage said. "We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials."

But Gage added that "government investigators at the NIST have been forced to acknowledge the free-fall descent, an indicting fact, after being presented with analysis by AE911Truth petition signers."

On its Web site, the architects' and engineers' group lists facts that suggest explosives were used to take down the towers.

-- Rapid onset of "collapse"
-- Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a second before the building's destruction
-- Symmetrical "structural failure" -- through the path of greatest resistance -- at free-fall acceleration
-- Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
-- Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional
-- FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples

WTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
-- Slow onset with large visible deformations
-- Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)
-- High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never "collapsed".

Debunking9/11, a Web site devoted to disproving the claims of 9/11 "truthers," argues that no aircraft was needed to bring down WTC7, because "while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7."

"Truthers" and debunkers have been arguing for years over whether the scant photographic evidence of WTC7's south side after the main towers' collapse shows enough damage to justify the building's collapse.

"All the buildings just as far away from both towers as WTC7 were hit," Debunking9/11 asserts. "The others were either very short buildings which didn't have to support a massive load above or had no fire. Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them."

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#1. To: Brian S, mcgowanjm (#0)

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE."

Whoa Nelly!!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-09-10   11:26:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE." Whoa Nelly!!

I'm all for that.

But this CD stuff is moronic.

war  posted on  2010-09-10   11:34:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#2)

But this CD stuff is moronic.

What's CD.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-11   8:42:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war, Fred Mertz, All (#7) (Edited)

But this CD stuff is moronic.

What's CD.

#10. To: mcgowanjm (#7)

What's CD.

Controlled demolitions.

Fred Mertz

Thanx Fred.

you're a fool, war.

You believe in magic.

You won't be able to understand what's happening to your life.

And you'll become ignorant of it. Like this.

You can't even think about how the FBI says Olson received ZERO calls from his wife on 9-11.

That the parts of WTC7 burning were the Secret Service and the SEC Offices.

That the Investigation of WHO shorted before 9-11 was stopped in it;s tracks. That the CIA using PROMIS/it's Iterations since can find said trades in real time. See High Frequency Trading/FrontRunning/Flash Crash for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-11   9:46:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

Three Skyscrapers fall on 9-11.

WTC7 violating ALL of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Never before. Never Since. With TWO planes.

The THIRD, almost an HOUR later, 'hits' the most heavily defended fortress in World History as TWO AIRBORNE COMMAND Flying Pentagons Circle the WH and fly back from NYC.

That's magic.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-11   9:50:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#12) (Edited)

WTC7 violating ALL of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

You ***think*** a building collapsing from severe damage is order?

war  posted on  2010-09-12   7:25:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#15)

You ***think*** a building collapsing from severe damage is order?

NIST, to this day refuses to release any pics/vids from the South side.

And you'll need to source the severe damage.

I've seen the fires on 7th floor-the SS offices. And 12th floor-the SEC offices.

Both critical, but in a criminal way, not building physical. 8D

Come on, war. Let me help you to the light.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-12   9:21:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#17) (Edited)

NIST, to this day refuses to release any pics/vids from the South side.

Videos of Southside fully engulfed

war  posted on  2010-09-12   9:24:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#18) (Edited)

Good Morning, war.

Thanx for your quick response. And having that vid up and ready. ;}

And that is the WEST side. SW side to be exact. You can see nothing of the South side due to the SMoke.from those two floors rising.

FULLY ENGULFED? Not.

And these are what kind of fires? Burning what? unless they're acetylene/ forced oxygen, you've got LESS thab what NIST claimed melted the other WTC's.

Why build foundries if this is all you need to melt heat resistant(over 1500 degrees steel.

More Science, Less Magic, war.

And I still need those South Side pics/vids that NIST is holding back. Kinda criminal that. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-12   9:30:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#19)

FULLY ENGULFED?

You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face?

As for burning what...the building had 100% occupancy...

war  posted on  2010-09-12   9:37:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#21)

You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face?

EXACTLY, where IS that smoke coming from?

And why won't NIST release ANY pics,vids from the South side.

We know they have them. Who is NIST protecting war?

And why won't you realize that smoke is rising from the TWO floors in the SW corner?

And that there is Nothing available in the WTC 7 that in less than 4 hrs, can melt Fire Resistant steel. Nothing.

And it takes at least a month to wire a building for CD, eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-12   10:48:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mcgowanjm (#26)

war  posted on  2010-09-12   12:20:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war (#33)

Light shines thru building?

As the East Mechanical Penthouse drops first?

The Only way the E Mech Penthouse drops first is that EVERYTHING to the Basement has been blow away.

Free Fall.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war, All (#45)

Rapid Breaking of Columns Approx 7 floors buckle.

And the Columns 'rapidly broke' why?

The approx 7 floors 'buckle' why?

I really appreciate you finding this vid, war.

An indictment for everyone involved in it's making.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: All (#46)

NO SUDDEN ONSET

I didn't see that at first. It's down in the corner.

WTF!?

What's a sudden onset?

From the Time the Penthouse gives way to ground is what? less than 10 seconds? For a 40+ Floor Building?

Crazyland...

And then my hero Barry Jennings. Even with the Cut out. Barry contradicts the FDNY indicted ones from earlier in the vid. All of the Conversation is about all the explosions causing all of the damage before the FDNY pulls Barry out of a hole the FDNY 'made'(WTF!?;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:16:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: war, All (#47)

When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty seven stories. -FDNY Asst Chief Harry Myers

Arrest him.

Amazing how ALL of these folks have time to stand around giving interviews about a once in a lifetime event. And no photos/no videos of the South Side.

That NIST has released, anyway. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:19:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war, All (#48)

At 1:41

Arrest Everyone quoted.

"When everyone heard that pancaking sound.."

Especially this guy. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#49)

At 1:41

And I'll need to see the source of that "Illustrated Diagram".

Where did they get that info of the SOUTH SIDE.

Now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   9:23:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mcgowanjm (#50)

And I'll need to see the source of that "Illustrated Diagram".

I asked you for a source on NIST.

I'm still waiting, btw.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   9:37:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#53)

And I'll need to see the source of that "Illustrated Diagram".

I asked you for a source on NIST.

I'm still waiting, btw.

OMFG OK, to recap.

9 yrs ago cheney/SS/NORAD with Mossad filming ALL the way do 9-11 and PO/The War for Resources/US EMPIRE begins.

From Day 1 of Truthers questioning Bizarro World, you and yours are doing Everything to focus on Saddam/Al Qaeda and the Muslim World, which we ARE at War with, btw.

We want them as colonies. They don't. Simple, except for the Empire's deluded consumers aka citizens.

And you, war, have now crossed over into the World of yukon, MD, Goldi, et al. trying the 9 yr old tactic of sending me on a Source Hunt. Even as your NIST was created for the SOLE purpose of HIDING ANY and ALL info/pics/vids showing that the White House CT is the WEAKEST CT of them all.

I ain't playin', except to demand that NIST now release ANY and ALL vids/pics/info pertaining to 9-11.

You. Are . Deluded. And I'm tryin' to be nice. You give me that'yukon' bullshit, one more time , and I won't be.

Your call. James. My real name, war. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:16:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#61. To: mcgowanjm (#57)

Be nice.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-09-13 10:22:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mcgowanjm (#57)

You asked me for a source on the South Face of WTC7. You denied what everyone can see. The entire face is on fire. IN further compliance with your request, I posted several otehr videos showing the same thing including one with frefighters on scene. You also have denied what several firefighters are on record as stating about WTC 7. I can easily reach out to about a dozen firefighters right now who were there and have told me =the same thing aboutWTC 7: The South face had a gaping hole, they tried to set lines to get ito the buolding even trying to get access from the North.

On the other hand, you've cited squat and I've asked you for ONE thing.

I like you James and I'm willing to keep this civil. Whether it remains that way is up to you.

war  posted on  2010-09-13 10:22:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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