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Title: Former Senator, Engineers Offer ‘Proof’ Of 9/11 Controlled Demolitions
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/ ... rs-911-controlled-demolitions/
Published: Sep 10, 2010
Author: RAWSTORY
Post Date: 2010-09-10 11:18:32 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 96739
Comments: 112

The nine-year-old body of 9/11 conspiracy theories includes many improbable (and sometimes contradictory) claims, everything from remote-controlled planes flying into the World Trade Center, to a missile hitting the Pentagon, to mass kidnappings of air passengers.

But a group of more than 1,200 architects and engineers is building what it hopes is a scientifically sound argument about one 9/11 claim: That the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed not by fires caused by the airplane collisions, but by a controlled demolition.

At a press conference in Washington DC, Thursday, the group Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth offered evidence "that all three WTC skyscrapers on September 11, 2001, in NYC were destroyed by explosive controlled demolition."

The third building the group referred to was World Trade Center 7, a skyscraper that collapsed about eight hours after the main WTC towers fell. For many 9/11 "truthers," WTC7's collapse despite not being hit by a plane is the "smoking gun" proving that something other than airplanes brought down the towers. The WTC7 collapse was not addressed in the official 9/11 Commission report.

"That building fell completely into its own footprint," blogger Andrew Steele told WKTV in Utica. "You can watch on YouTube yourself and use your own common sense. Even if you don't have a scientific background ... if you have two eyes, you can see that fire alone did not bring down that building."

His claims, and those of the 1,270 architects and engineers who have signed on to the effort, were bolstered by the support of former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, who said in a press release that "critically important evidence has come forward after the original government building reports were completed."

Gravel has been concerned with the events of September 11, 2001, for some time now. He has called for an independent investigation into 9/11.

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE."

San Francisco architect Richard Gage said the way the towers collapsed was consistent with a controlled demolition, not a chaotic structural collapse.

"The official FEMA and NIST reports provide insufficient, contradictory, and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction," Gage said. "We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials."

But Gage added that "government investigators at the NIST have been forced to acknowledge the free-fall descent, an indicting fact, after being presented with analysis by AE911Truth petition signers."

On its Web site, the architects' and engineers' group lists facts that suggest explosives were used to take down the towers.

-- Rapid onset of "collapse"
-- Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a second before the building's destruction
-- Symmetrical "structural failure" -- through the path of greatest resistance -- at free-fall acceleration
-- Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
-- Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional
-- FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples

WTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
-- Slow onset with large visible deformations
-- Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)
-- High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never "collapsed".

Debunking9/11, a Web site devoted to disproving the claims of 9/11 "truthers," argues that no aircraft was needed to bring down WTC7, because "while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7."

"Truthers" and debunkers have been arguing for years over whether the scant photographic evidence of WTC7's south side after the main towers' collapse shows enough damage to justify the building's collapse.

"All the buildings just as far away from both towers as WTC7 were hit," Debunking9/11 asserts. "The others were either very short buildings which didn't have to support a massive load above or had no fire. Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them."

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#1. To: Brian S, mcgowanjm (#0)

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE."

Whoa Nelly!!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-09-10   11:26:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE." Whoa Nelly!!

I'm all for that.

But this CD stuff is moronic.

war  posted on  2010-09-10   11:34:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#2)

But this CD stuff is moronic.

What's CD.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-11   8:42:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war, Fred Mertz, All (#7) (Edited)

But this CD stuff is moronic.

What's CD.

#10. To: mcgowanjm (#7)

What's CD.

Controlled demolitions.

Fred Mertz

Thanx Fred.

you're a fool, war.

You believe in magic.

You won't be able to understand what's happening to your life.

And you'll become ignorant of it. Like this.

You can't even think about how the FBI says Olson received ZERO calls from his wife on 9-11.

That the parts of WTC7 burning were the Secret Service and the SEC Offices.

That the Investigation of WHO shorted before 9-11 was stopped in it;s tracks. That the CIA using PROMIS/it's Iterations since can find said trades in real time. See High Frequency Trading/FrontRunning/Flash Crash for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-11   9:46:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#11) (Edited)

You're a o fool, war.

Were you there? I was. And I know people who were. Including people who work for the PA and were in the buildings when you CD Moonbats claim that the charges were set. And I know fireman who worked that day and were pulled from 7 because the building was fully engulfed and unstable.

A good portion of the South facade of WTC7 was destroyed by the impact of the falling buildings. The entire building was on fire.

war  posted on  2010-09-12   7:24:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#14)

You're a o fool, war.

Were you there? I was.

Here's the weak point in our relationship, war.

And I now remember we've been here before.

You were a street away or something. And, well, let me put up what you wrote:

"Were you there? I was. And I know people who were. Including people who work for the PA and were in the buildings when you CD Moonbats claim that the charges were set. And I know fireman who worked that day and were pulled from 7 because the building was fully engulfed and unstable."

The first is admissable. The second is hearsay. The PA is criminal enterprise. See asbestos $1 billion abatement. And putting a commercial enterprise on what should be a Memorial Gearden with STILL the remains of victims. Ghoulish Forever.

Next. Thank you for the 'Moonbats' designation. I believe that's the first time you've made an ad hominem attack on me. Had to happen, I guess, as you insist on at least NINE Magic's happening in New York that day.

Ex. How can the East Mechanical Penthouse on top of WTC 7 fall first, before the rest of the building.

Working in Finance while believing in Magic is deadly, War. You should know that. You'll get your head handed to you.

" the building was fully engulfed and unstable."

Fires weren't reported til 4 PM. And NEVER before and NEVER since has a skyscraper been brought down by fire.

And your 'friends' in the WTC7 are getting close to indictment. As Barry Jennings reported numerous explosions until he was pulled out.

Barry Jennings death has still not been explained.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-12   9:18:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

You were a street away or something.

I worked at`1 Liberty Plaza which sustained severe damage from the collapse of the South Tower. I was standing on the corner of Liberty and Church when the second plane went in. Do you know where the South Tower was? The plane went in on the right of the building on the Liberty Street side .

I know firemen, people who worked for the PA or a company based in every building and I know what I saw and experienced. I know a PA worker who survived the first bombing and died in the second. I saw and spoke with his widow yesterday. I know a PA worker who worked a 48 the weekend that you folks claim that the charges were set. He thinks you folks are Looney Tooons. My father in-law works for a property manager that contracts with the PA for ventilation repair. He worked in WTC7 the same weekend you claim the charges were set.

war  posted on  2010-09-12   9:36:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#20)

I worked at`1 Liberty Plaza which sustained severe damage from the collapse of the South Tower. I was standing on the corner of Liberty and Church when the second plane went in. Do you know where the South Tower was? The plane went in on the right of the building on the Liberty Street side .

Ok, and you said that lest anniversary too, I believe.

I've got mechanics in the Basement of WTC N and Jennings IN the WTC7, saying multiple explosions, 50 ton presses disappearing in same.

Next. We're not talking about planes here and now. We're talking about the SOUTH side of the WTC 7 NOT hit by a plane.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-12   9:48:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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