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Title: Former Senator, Engineers Offer ‘Proof’ Of 9/11 Controlled Demolitions
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/ ... rs-911-controlled-demolitions/
Published: Sep 10, 2010
Author: RAWSTORY
Post Date: 2010-09-10 11:18:32 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 97048
Comments: 112

The nine-year-old body of 9/11 conspiracy theories includes many improbable (and sometimes contradictory) claims, everything from remote-controlled planes flying into the World Trade Center, to a missile hitting the Pentagon, to mass kidnappings of air passengers.

But a group of more than 1,200 architects and engineers is building what it hopes is a scientifically sound argument about one 9/11 claim: That the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed not by fires caused by the airplane collisions, but by a controlled demolition.

At a press conference in Washington DC, Thursday, the group Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth offered evidence "that all three WTC skyscrapers on September 11, 2001, in NYC were destroyed by explosive controlled demolition."

The third building the group referred to was World Trade Center 7, a skyscraper that collapsed about eight hours after the main WTC towers fell. For many 9/11 "truthers," WTC7's collapse despite not being hit by a plane is the "smoking gun" proving that something other than airplanes brought down the towers. The WTC7 collapse was not addressed in the official 9/11 Commission report.

"That building fell completely into its own footprint," blogger Andrew Steele told WKTV in Utica. "You can watch on YouTube yourself and use your own common sense. Even if you don't have a scientific background ... if you have two eyes, you can see that fire alone did not bring down that building."

His claims, and those of the 1,270 architects and engineers who have signed on to the effort, were bolstered by the support of former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, who said in a press release that "critically important evidence has come forward after the original government building reports were completed."

Gravel has been concerned with the events of September 11, 2001, for some time now. He has called for an independent investigation into 9/11.

"Unlike the first investigation, this commission should be granted subpoena power and full access to all governmental files and personnel," Gravel wrote. "George Bush should be forced to testify ALONE."

San Francisco architect Richard Gage said the way the towers collapsed was consistent with a controlled demolition, not a chaotic structural collapse.

"The official FEMA and NIST reports provide insufficient, contradictory, and fraudulent accounts of the circumstances of the towers' destruction," Gage said. "We are therefore calling for a grand jury investigation of NIST officials."

But Gage added that "government investigators at the NIST have been forced to acknowledge the free-fall descent, an indicting fact, after being presented with analysis by AE911Truth petition signers."

On its Web site, the architects' and engineers' group lists facts that suggest explosives were used to take down the towers.

-- Rapid onset of "collapse"
-- Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a second before the building's destruction
-- Symmetrical "structural failure" -- through the path of greatest resistance -- at free-fall acceleration
-- Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
-- Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional
-- FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples

WTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
-- Slow onset with large visible deformations
-- Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)
-- High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never "collapsed".

Debunking9/11, a Web site devoted to disproving the claims of 9/11 "truthers," argues that no aircraft was needed to bring down WTC7, because "while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7."

"Truthers" and debunkers have been arguing for years over whether the scant photographic evidence of WTC7's south side after the main towers' collapse shows enough damage to justify the building's collapse.

"All the buildings just as far away from both towers as WTC7 were hit," Debunking9/11 asserts. "The others were either very short buildings which didn't have to support a massive load above or had no fire. Only Building 7 had unfought fires and the massive load of 40 stories above them."

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#72. To: war (#69)

That's an extremely ill-advised statement. Time on their hands?

No. It's. Not.

You need to go back and look at that vid you posted.

The guy's just casually describing how the NYFD can't do a thing about it. No problems, cause it's about to fall.

YOU'RE GUY.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: war (#71)

ou've offered absolutely nothing that impeaches the statements of those firemen.

Please.

# LF: Former Senator, Engineers Offer 'Proof' Of 9/11 Controlled ... You're blind. Where's all that smoke coming from out of the south Face? ... We're not talking about planes here and now. We're talking about the SOUTH ... Like Rastucci saying WTC7 was either going to come down on it's on or ... 1:33 Rastucci NYFD, announces he's a Co Conspirator to Brian Williams: ... www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=13014&Disp=16 #

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: mcgowanjm (#70)

Free Fall.

None of the buildings collapsed in free fall speed.

That myth was debunked fairly quickly.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: mcgowanjm (#73)

Please.

No...in reality.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war (#71)

On a side note, you should PING Tull to this thread; this may be your admittance to 4um. They are all CDCT's over there.

It's just you. and me. Here and now.

Don't bring anything in but Sources and Vids.

Or I'll start accusing you of trying to blur the issue.

OK? ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: war (#75)

Please.

No...in reality.

Where the Most Realistic One wins.

;}

MetaphorInVain: december 2008 - [ Translate this page ] "Keep your eye on that building, it's coming down" "Move it back here. .... Building 7 down because I heard that they were going to bring it down because it ... twoofersmysigapalats.blogspot.com/2008_12_01_archive.html - Cached

See how that works, war? A source.

Too bad. But eventually everyone has to take a side.

But we can talk Finance if you want to agree on something. The PPT/Goldman/HFT/Flash Crashing and all. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: mcgowanjm (#72)

The guy's just casually describing how the NYFD can't do a thing about it.

Yea so?

Is it your position that the entire FDNY is in on the conspiracy and the several widows I know and spent some time with on Saturday are, in fact, not REALLY widows or that there husbands were the ones who refused to go along and even though they knew that 9/11 was a scam they went to WTC site that day anyway.

Your responses are getting more bizarre.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war, All (#74)

None of the buildings collapsed in free fall speed.

That myth was debunked fairly quickly.

Now you're arguement is in Epic Fail mode.

Put up ANY vid in real time. 10 secs for TWO 110+/- Buildings is NOT Free Fall?

Come on with your vid. Cause I'm going to get mine. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: mcgowanjm (#77) (Edited)

ee how that works, war? A source.

You've linked me to a blog.

I've posted several videos the contents of which you've absolutely denied what they are. So please don;t accuse me of not providing sources. I have. DIRECT sources. Not blogs.

BTW, I cannot find where you posted an NBC/MSNBC video. Can you relinnk please.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: war (#78)

Your responses are getting more bizarre.

Only from your POV. While it's only a he said/he said here.

I'll need your source for why my responses are bizarre. Now your FDNY Guy here is bizarre:

"There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered through there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably a tyhird of it, right in the middle of it."-Capt Chris Boyle.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: war (#80)

From a google of WTC7 South Side # New WTC 7 Video Posted on YouTube | 911Blogger.com Sep 8, 2010 ... WE STILL do not have south side close shots of WTC 7 despite a 2007 ... We may have the photos and videos of the south side of WTC 7 ... 911blogger.com/news/2010-09.../new-wtc-7-video-posted-youtube - Cached

[PDF] TABLE OF CONTENTS - Appendix L File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Figure L–21 is an aerial view of WTC 7 after the collapse of WTC 1. There is no visible debris on the roof; some minor damage is seen on the south side at ... wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf - Similar

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: war (#80)

You've linked me to a blog.

which one.

source please.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: mcgowanjm (#83)

911blogger.com

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: war (#80)

I've posted several videos the contents of which you've absolutely denied what they are.

I saw and replied to the one.

The contents of THAT ONE I put up as proof of HearSay and Lies.

Because Everytime they try and match with reality, the best Your ONE Vid could do was a 'Dramatic Illustration'.

Column 79?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: war (#84)

911blogger.com

And?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war (#80)

So please don;t accuse me of not providing sources. I have. DIRECT sources. Not blogs.

Oh, OK. So you didn't have time to peruse the Side bars fot the Latest on 9-11.

And you provided the almost 900 views YouTube. Which I went thru quote by quote. Look above for the details.

Refuting Everything offered. Even the Out of Context Barry Jenning's Quote. And btw, how did Barry Jennings die? ;} Just sayin'.

"DIRECT sources. Not blogs."

Thses two should work:

# # New WTC 7 Video Posted on YouTube | 911Blogger.com Sep 8, 2010 ... WE STILL do not have south side close shots of WTC 7 despite a 2007 ... We may have the photos and videos of the south side of WTC 7 ... 911blogger.com/news/2010-09.../new-wtc-7-video-posted-youtube - Cached

[PDF] TABLE OF CONTENTS - Appendix L File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Figure L–21 is an aerial view of WTC 7 after the collapse of WTC 1. There is no visible debris on the roof; some minor damage is seen on the south side at ... wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf - Similar

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: war (#80)

BTW, I cannot find where you posted an NBC/MSNBC video. Can you relinnk please.

Here's local NBC. Heavily edited, BTW.

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-09-08/new-wtc-7-video-posted-youtube

I'll be right back with the Ashley Bancroft/Brian Williams piece.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   10:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mcgowanjm (#87)

wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf

Weren't you the one who claimed thatr NIST wasn;t releasing any pics?

war  posted on  2010-09-13   10:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: mcgowanjm (#81)

I'll need your source for why my responses are bizarre. Now your FDNY Guy here is bizarre:

"There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered through there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably a tyhird of it, right in the middle of it."-Capt Chris Boyle.

The source is me.

And forgive the FDNY guy for not being a poet.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   11:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: All (#88)

I'll be right back with the Ashley Bancroft/Brian Williams piece.

Almost there. ;} In the meantime. as you're looking at my youtube:

"Just in:

New vid released by NIST (Lyin Motherfuckers that they are/and this is heavily edited;}:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukO3hENZ9zA&feature=player_embedded

When they show the burning floors of the WTC 7 re read this:

Now, from an interview with Bob Weaver, the Assistant Special Agent in charge of the US Secret Service New York Field Office(WTC 7):

At this point in the conversation, a colleague handed Weaver a picture of his former office in flames.

"I can't believe this picture," he said, the tone of his voice lowering. "There are flames shooting out of my office. There is no other fire on that side of the building (the West Broadway side) but there is in my office. It's incredible.

"I knew we lost everything in the attack, but I guess my friend wanted to be sure I didn't forget."

That would be an interesting picture to see, I think.

Cause there's the 'interesting pic. Shocked Roll Eyes Cool

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: All (#91)

Closer:

Directions to 7 World Trade Center File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View Walk four blocks south on West Broadway to Barclay St. and one block west on Barclay to Greenwich St. City Hall - R, W Trains ...

www.silversteinproperties.com/.../c71bc9ee-d66f-49fd-a542-8acc8f3237ce_directions-to-7-world-trade-center.pdf

'Pull it'.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:10:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war, All (#92)

Still workin' it! ;}

Quote from: Zac on September 09, 2010, 03:04:38 PM 9 September 2010

John Young, architect for 37 years, thinks this group spreads technical nonsense but its initiative may lead to full release of WTC investigative findings. Their popular appeal is based on the USG's refusing to release full WTC investigative findings of 9/11 and the causes underlying the collapse of the buildings. Partial releases available at NIST have stimulated demands for full release. Along with many others, Cryptome has filed FOIA requests to NIST for WTC investigative findings which have been publicly acknowleged as existing but will not be released due to alleged threat to national security.

Part of this threat appears to be due to the fact that many other buildings have vulnerabilities like those of the WTC structures and owners will not make corrections unless reimbursed by the USG. Thus AES911Truth may be underwritten by the real estate and insurance industries to extort funds from the USG, as have others since 911 now a booming industry of terrroism-victims-interest groups. Professional engineers and architects are complicit in this, some involved with WTC investigations, not only those associated with this group. Security measures are a classified racket among designers and security officials who shrewdly hide behind secrecy.

Bear in mind that most architects, officials and not a few engineers are not technical wizards but highly skilled at promotion and pushing risky products for handsome fees, aided and abetted by industry lobbyists, mashed-up building codes and lax enforcement of licensing law, especially in big cities where the greatest profits come from dangerous structures. Saying this in public is termed "professional suicide," a bluff assisted by shady codes of ethics, sealed court records of failures and omnipresent national security cover-for-all-errors.

http://cryptome.org/0002/1270-ae-fud.htm

This argument is illogical. To withhold evidence that such buildings have vulnerabilities is illegal because it goes against the government's own building codes, especially if the same thing happens in another attack. For the same reason, claims of extortion are unfounded.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: All (#93)

Tanx for the Memories!!!!

" Re: Sept 9: 1,270 Architects Reveal Hard Evidence of Explosive Demolition at WTC « Reply #44 on: September 10, 2010, 10:13:29 AM » Reply with quoteQuote Modify messageModify And what I'll never forget from that day.

I knew the importance of WTC7. Never before 9.11 had ANY skyscraper fallen due to fire. And going to work (I never should've done that, btw. just sayin) I missed the two WTC's imploding.

but Dan Rather keeps sayin' that WTC 7's about to collapse. And I kept repeating. If WTC 7's about to collapse then why are we not watching it constant;y until it does.

But Dan and everyone else were too busy elsewhere. Even as so amny people were hearing the countdown.

Quote So, despite the fact that, even towards the end of the day, the fires in WTC 7 remained barely significant (from a fire engineering standpoint), the culprits finally made the decision to pull the plug on WTC 7 and rely on their formidable propaganda machinery to bulldoze any doubts that might arise. The conspirators couldn't logically wait any longer because a burgeoning army of firefighters and rescue workers had recovered from their shock and were descending on Ground Zero to begin the lengthy search and rescue effort that began that evening. For those who desperately needed the building destroyed, it was then or never and, in an effort to finally wrap things up, they put the demolition process in motion by clearing personnel from around the base of Building 7. Then, when they could wait no longer, they put an end to the spectacle at 5:25 PM, dropping Building 7 neatly within its footprint, an obvious controlled implosion so perfect it would have earned any demolition company a bonus.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mcgowanjm (#93) (Edited)

This is a different issue.

After 9/11, Der Rudenfuhrer Bullyannie ordered the NY Public libraries to close its blueprints section.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   11:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: mcgowanjm (#94)

I knew the importance of WTC7. Never before 9.11 had ANY skyscraper fallen due to fire.

Nor did they on 9/11. You keep stating this as if it's supposed to have some sort of basis in fact. Fire contributed. Lassive destruction contributed.

war  posted on  2010-09-13   11:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#96)

You NEVER get the Official WH CT from the Believers of Magic.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20039

David Ray Griffin:

Quote Inexperienced Muslim hijackers, armed only with knives and box-cutters, took control of four airliners, then outfoxed the world’s most sophisticated air defense system, then used two of these airliners to bring three skyscrapers down (indeed, straight down, in virtual free fall),140 and then, almost an hour later - when the US air defense system would have been on highest alert - flew a third one, undetected, from the mid-west back to Washington DC, where – thanks to heroic piloting by a man who had never before flown an airliner and who was, according to the New York Times, known as a “terrible pilot,” incapable of safely flying even a tiny plane – this third airliner went through an extremely difficult trajectory (even too difficult for them, said some experienced airline pilots) in order to strike the first floor of the Pentagon – surely the most well-protected building on the planet – without scraping the Pentagon lawn.

What could discredit “the left” [Griffin lists the Apologists]more than the fact that you, some of its leading spokespersons, have endorsed such nonsense?

The Scientific Status of the Two Conspiracy Theories. Actually, there is one thing that would be even more discrediting: If, after having it pointed out to you that at least nine miracles are implied by this story, you fail to renounce your former acceptance of it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: war (#96)

You NEVER get the Official WH CT from the Believers of Magic. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20039 David Ray Griffin: Quote Inexperienced Muslim hijackers, armed only with knives and box-cutters, took control of four airliners, then outfoxed the world’s most sophisticated air defense system, then used two of these airliners to bring three skyscrapers down (indeed, straight down, in virtual free fall),140 and then, almost an hour later - when the US air defense system would have been on highest alert - flew a third one, undetected, from the mid-west back to Washington DC, where – thanks to heroic piloting by a man who had never before flown an airliner and who was, according to the New York Times, known as a “terrible pilot,” incapable of safely flying even a tiny plane – this third airliner went through an extremely difficult trajectory (even too difficult for them, said some experienced airline pilots) in order to strike the first floor of the Pentagon – surely the most well-protected building on the planet – without scraping the Pentagon lawn. What could discredit “the left” [Griffin lists the Apologists]more than the fact that you, some of its leading spokespersons, have endorsed such nonsense? The Scientific Status of the Two Conspiracy Theories. Actually, there is one thing that would be even more discrediting: If, after having it pointed out to you that at least nine miracles are implied by this story, you fail to renounce your former acceptance of it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: war (#96)

And here it is:

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=1KQA1KOKrPc&feature=related

9/11: WTC 7 "would be taken down" (MSNBC)

http://il.youtube.com/user/Xenomorph911WTC

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: war (#96)

Nor did they on 9/11.

So what brought down WTC7 at Free Fall speed.

Tell me the other WTC's did it. please.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   11:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: mcgowanjm (#100)

Tell me the other WTC's did it. please.

They certainly contributed.

And still, nothing you've provided supports your theories. They all "say" the same thing..."It couldn't have happened THAT way so it happned THIS way."

war  posted on  2010-09-13   11:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: mcgowanjm (#100) (Edited)

So what brought down WTC7 at Free Fall speed.

None of the towers nor WTC 7 fell at free fall speed...

war  posted on  2010-09-13   11:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: war (#101)

And still, nothing you've provided supports your theories. They all "say" the same thing..."It couldn't have happened THAT way so it happned THIS way."

When you eliminate the impossible, what you're left with is what happened.

;}

Nothing is harder than to get someone to understand, when they're being paid not to understand.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: war (#102)

None of the towers nor WTC 7 fell at free fall speed...

My video says different.

From Fox to CNN to MSNBC to BBC to every video of WTC7 falling.

Count the seconds yourself. 7. That's freefall. Witht the East Mechanical Penthouse falling in first.

Impossible except for like NYFD Rastucci: 'We're going to bring it down.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: All (#104)

WTC7 The Zapruder Film of 9-11

It won't go away.

At Free Fall.

http://il.youtube.com/user/Xenomorph911WTC

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: All (#105)

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: war, All (#106)

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mcgowanjm (#105)

http://www.ae911truth.info/tiki-index.php? page=Freefall+Speed#7_Faster_and_Slower_

I'm out of this conversation...thanks...

war  posted on  2010-09-13   12:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: war, All (#107)

The ENTIRE UNCUT Barry Jennings Interview:

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2009/04/390576.shtml

Uh, man the Office of Emergency Management at the World Trade Center 7. On the 23rd floor. As I arrived there, police are all in the lobby. They, uh, showed me the way to the elevator. We got up to the 23rd floor. Me and Mr. Hess who I didn't know was mr. Hess at the time. We couldn't get in. We had to go back down. Then, Security and the police took us to the down on thefreight elevators. When they took us back up, we did get in.

As I told you earlier...

INTERVIEWER: Yes.

Upon arriving into the OEM EOC, we noticed that everybody was gone. I saw coffee thatwas on the desk. Still smoking. Smoke was still coming up from the coffee. I saw half-eaten sandwiches. And only me and Mr. Hess was up there. Uh, after I called several individuals, oneindividual told me that to "leave! Uh, and to leave right away."

Then, Hess came running back in. He said: "We gotta get outta of here!"

He found a stairwell. So we we subsequently went to the stairwell. And we were goingdownstairs. When we reached the eighth, uh, the sixth floor, the landing that we were standingon, gave way. There was an explosion. And the landing gave way. And when, I was left there hanging. I had to climb back up. And I had to walk back up the eighth floor. When I made it to the sixth floor [sic], and, and there was an explosion. That's what forced us back to the eighth floor. Both buildings were still standing because I looked two, one way and looked the other way and there's nothing there."

You're a fool to believe the WH CT, war.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: war (#108)

I'm out of this conversation...thanks...

Good. Anytime. Good Luck on the rest of your life.

James

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: war, All (#108)

A fake site. Shoulda known.

For those interested, here's the REAL Architects & Engineers site.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

LMFAO.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: war, All (#102)

To: mcgowanjm

So what brought down WTC7 at Free Fall speed.

None of the towers nor WTC 7 fell at free fall speed...

You cannot look at a video and believe anything other than free fall.

Count the seconds yourself.

You can't get to 7 on WTC7.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-09-13   12:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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