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Title: Sharia for Dummies: Imam Feisal Abdel Rauf Claims US Constitution Is Sharia Compliant
Source: Big Peace
URL Source: http://bigpeace.com/ndarwish/2010/08/26/sharia-for-dummies/
Published: Sep 8, 2010
Author: Nonie Darwish
Post Date: 2010-09-08 10:54:02 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 127362
Comments: 128

Imam Feisal Abdel Rauf Claims That the US Constitution Is Sharia Compliant

Now let us examine below a few laws of Sharia to see if Imam Rauf is truthful or a fraud:

1- Jihad defined as “to war against non-Muslims to establish the religion” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.

2- A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.

3- A Caliph is exempt from being charged with serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape.

4- A percentage of Zakat (alms) must go towards jihad.

5- It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.

6- A caliph must be a Muslim, a non-slave and a male.

7- The Muslim public must remove the Caliph in one case, if he rejects Islam.

8- A Muslim who leaves Islam must be killed immediately. 9- A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of : 1) an apostasy 2) an adulterer 3) a highway robber. Making vigilante street justice and honor killing acceptable.

10- A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim.

11- Sharia never abolished slavery and sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave.

12- Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, amputation of limbs, flogging and other forms of cruel and unusual punishments even for crimes of sin such as adultery.

13- Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims and must comply to Sharia if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their scriptures or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he commits adultery with a Muslim woman or if he leads a Muslim away from Islam.

14- It is a crime for a non-Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non-Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims. However, the opposite is not true for Muslims.

15- A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.

16- Banks must be Sharia compliant and interest is not allowed.

17- No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs, such as street sweepers or a bathhouse attendant. Women in such low level jobs such as professional funeral mourners cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.

18- A non-Muslim cannot rule even over a non-Muslims minority.

19- Homosexuality is punishable by death.

20- There is no age limit for marriage of girls under Sharia. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and consummated at age 8 or 9.

21- Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.

22- Divorce is only in the hands of the husband and is as easy as saying: “I divorce you” and becomes effective even if the husband did not intend it.

23- There is no community property between husband and wife and the husband’s property does not automatically go to the wife after his death.

24- A woman inherits half what a man inherits.

25- A man has the right to have up to 4 wives and she has no right to divorce him even if he is polygamous.

26- The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs.

27- A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and women captured in battle, and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.

28- The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man.

29- A woman looses custody if she remarries.

30- To prove rape, a woman must have 4 male witnesses.

31- A rapist may only be required to pay the bride-money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.

32- A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body which is considered “Awrah,” a sexual organ. Some schools of Sharia allow the face and some don’t.

33- A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife caught in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true for women since he “could be married to the woman he was caught with.”

The above are clear cut laws in Islam decided by great Imams after years of examination and interpretation of the Quran, Hadith and Mohammed’s life. Now let the learned Imam Rauf tell us what part of the above is compliant with the US constitution?


Poster Comment:

And we haven't even touched on these laws, if broken by a non-muslim (you and me), will be enforced! I have a feeling that if these laws were to ever take effect here in the U.S., most of us will just bypass our First Amendment, and just go straight to our Second....

BLOAT!! Lock n Load....

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#84. To: Ferret Mike (#83)

Actually, she took issue with an anti minuteman article I posted and banned me. Show me the alleged Secret Service thing.

The article of which I speak and was banned for is still there. Do a serch of Ferret Mike, and it will be my last post there, duh.

#57. To: Corn Flake Girl, BANNING NOTICE (#54) I've read through your comments made recently on multiple threads, and I find a shocking theme.

You are attempting to intimidate other LP members from speaking freely on this site, by invoking various law enforcement agencies in a manner that is akin to KGB operatives controlling the proletariat!!

ANY attempt for censorship of any kind, including intimidation or veiled threats is anethema to Liberty Post and its entire purpose; it flies in the face of the First Amendment.

It is 100% NOT acceptable here.

Please take your educated, opinionated, and intimidating remarks over to a site that encourages that behavior. It is clear that you do not visit here to participate in the liberty of free and unfettered speech.

I have terminated your account.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2008-10-16 17:

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   19:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Murron, Ignore Amos, LF's Leftist List, all (#27)

Hey fellows, please watch the video I just posted. Jezzzzus, Islamic muslims are out of control in Europe, and they do have their focus on the U.S....

Muslims TOTALLY outta control in Europe. But then Muslims are the definition of "outta control."

Only the truly clinical moronic, retarded, whoring liars, anti-Christians, anti-West civvies, Commies and Muzzie-symps think otherwise.

You'll find this list at LF to include:

Weasel Mike
Dwarf
Skid Mark Row
Abu el Bone Dog
go65
mcgowan
Brian S
loonysmom
mininggilbey's
Suzanne

And we can't forget the tricky Freddy, who likes to have his balls dangling on either sides of the fence, but mostly in tune with his fellow Lefty travelers.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Liberator (#85)

And we can't forget the tricky Freddy, who likes to have his balls dangling on either sides of the fence, but mostly in tune with his fellow Lefty travelers.

LOL..freddie's not tricky, but I have found him to be 'fair wheather'...he's goes with whom ever he's thinks is winning a flame...lol

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   19:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Liberator (#85)

I noticed those bobbies in europe don't carry weapons, in one of the videos, the mob had the cops all lined up against a wall..it was scary, and really stupid on the part of the cops.

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   19:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Ignore Amos, dwarf (#28)

Let's see where the trial of the Ft. Hood Shooter leads, shall we?

Oh wait - he wasn't influenced by Islam /sarc

No, Captain (or is he General by now?) Nadal was just merely "cleaning his gun." Geez, can't a normal guy who yells "arrrrrghhh!! ALLAHU AKBAR!!" make a simple mistake NOT having anything to do with Islam?

REMINDER: Islam is the "Religion of Peace" just in any you "Islamophobes" (or the relatives and friends of 42 servicemen and women shot by General Nadal) had forgotten.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Murron, Fred Mertz (#86) (Edited)

LOL..freddie's not tricky, but I have found him to be 'fair wheather'...he's goes with whom ever he's thinks is winning a flame...lol

LMAO! Ya think??

My God - this rat has been reincarnated from the Jew in the Polish ghetto who was the "Precinct Leader."

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Murron (#87)

I noticed those bobbies in europe don't carry weapons, in one of the videos, the mob had the cops all lined up against a wall..it was scary, and really stupid on the part of the cops.

They should be renamed "boobies." Yeah, it amazed by that these sitting ducks weren't "Muslimized." But they will soon, but not before things get...well, bloody BLOODY, mate.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Murron (#84)

I sure did not do what Goldi talks about. Do you have the alleged post to which she refers? because I sure have not talked to any authorities. Show me the evidence of which you make wild accusations over.

Goldi is infamous for her wild, self serving hyperbole. This means nothing, except in your deluded head.

Remember, I was the one who outed that account I used solely to talk to sneakypete and others I had not seen online for a long while. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:18:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Murron (#29)

The only argument they have left is name- calling, oz has been exposed and they don't like it.

"Islamophobia" ain't gonna work.

This will NOT turn out well for them if they want to flex their political muscles any more than they already have. The Saudis may have bribed and bought several politicians, colummists, talking heads, and media outlets, but Americans ain't buying their crap. 9/11 was "seared" - SEARED into the American psyche.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Ferret Mike (#91)

Goldi is infamous for her wild, self serving hyperbole.

And what are YOU famous for, Cornflake Girl??

Oh that's right - I've already touched on some of your rep.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Ferret Mike (#91)

I sure did not do what Goldi talks about. Do you have the alleged post to which she refers? because I sure have not talked to any authorities. Show me the evidence of which you make wild accusations over.

Goldi is infamous for her wild, self serving hyperbole. This means nothing, except in your deluded head.

Remember, I was the one who outed that account I used solely to talk to sneakypete and others I had not seen online for a long while. ;-)

I'm sure you have a couple of girlyboys here who might like the smell of that!

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   19:23:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: war, Ignore Amos (#32)

Why would he be any different from how the Beltway shooter was prosectued; seriously, what makes you believe that the Ft. Hood shooter is going to get off?

U.S. ARMY.

0bama.

0bama.

0bama.

Geez, your so-called "analytic mind" is having problems adding 2+2 these days, isn't it? Shame.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Murron, Ferret Mike (#84)

You are attempting to intimidate other LP members from speaking freely on this site, by invoking various law enforcement agencies in a manner that is akin to KGB operatives controlling the proletariat!!

I LOVE Goldi's banning statements!

lucysmom  posted on  2010-09-08   19:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: lucysmom (#96)

Yep, she's a legend in her own mind.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Liberator (#85)

Muslims TOTALLY outta control in Europe. But then Muslims are the definition of "outta control."

Considering there are 1.4 billion Muslims in the world, I would expect "Muslims TOTALLY outta control" would look - well - more dramatic somehow.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-09-08   19:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: war, Murron (#33)

(Islamic muslims )

Is there any other kind?

Do amber lights paralyze your decision-making thought process?

To the context-impaired (like YOU) that would mean recently immigrated Muslims, Sparky.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Murron (#84)

I just went over and looked. All posts to and from that account are nuked.

Show me the URL to that banning post. Unless you archived or manufactured that post, there is no way to retrieve it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: lucysmom (#98)

Considering there are 1.4 billion Muslims in the world, I would expect "Muslims TOTALLY outta control" would look - well - more dramatic somehow.

Assuming cockroaches and tse-tse flies are outta control as well - even with the advent of DDT and pesticides - even their numbers should seem more dramatic.

I guess it all depends on the extermination and fumigation perimeter, doesn't it?

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Murron (#94)

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=242111&Disp=1#C1

Found it, and as I thought, no threats, no calls for law enforcement interdiction, nothing.

As usual, your words are empty.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Liberator, Ferret Mike (#95)

Hey lib darlin, do me tiny favore? I'm posting this link for mamma's boy, it's the link he asked for but is too fking stupid to find himself, this way, he can't say the link is dead..which it is not.

Here Is the Link Lazy Ass

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   19:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Ferret Mike, Murron, war (#38)

Believe me, I sure as heck have had my foot so deep in my mouth it nearly took mining explosives to extract it.

One would think you'd have pinged your Spandex soul-mate dwarf for your very special announcement/invitation.

Not that there's anything wrong with you two boasting of certain capabilities, exchanging flirtatious fantasmic stuff like this in the open.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Ferret Mike (#102)

Found it, and as I thought, no threats, no calls for law enforcement interdiction, nothing.

As usual, your words are empty.

I've had it with you, this thread is about Islam, it is not about you, but I can remedy that, lets take this off these other threads, and you can have it it!

I don't like to spend hours searching for info, only to have fks like you turn them into shit for their own pleasure. If it's gotta be about you, I'll give you your own thread to mumble and grumble on!

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   19:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Murron, Ferret Mike (#103)

#57. To: Corn Flake Girl, BANNING NOTICE (#54)

I've read through your comments made recently on multiple threads, and I find a shocking theme.

You are attempting to intimidate other LP members from speaking freely on this site, by invoking various law enforcement agencies in a manner that is akin to KGB operatives controlling the proletariat!!

ANY attempt for censorship of any kind, including intimidation or veiled threats is anethema to Liberty Post and its entire purpose; it flies in the face of the First Amendment.

It is 100% NOT acceptable here.

Please take your educated, opinionated, and intimidating remarks over to a site that encourages that behavior. It is clear that you do not visit here to participate in the liberty of free and unfettered speech.

I have terminated your account.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2008-10-16 17:43:49 ET

You mean the link to THIS post?

*chuckle* Yep, he's a Weasel alright.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Murron (#94)

I remember the tone of the posting history of that account if not the details. There was never any need to get irritated or excited. No point in acting like I had any investment in the place, so what you cite Goldi as claiming never happened.

In fact, the last post I made there was a pleasant one to Palo Verde.

What you have going against you is we al know Goldi, and we have all seen her act too many times to buy your hyperboyle.

Besides, the only ban that matters is the last one as Ferret Mike. That is the account I was last there representing my opinions and in that one I posted the URL of teh article and she claimed the URL which takes you to right where I got it was a deception. Go figure, that's Goldi/Sally for you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Murron, Weasel Mike (#73)

you g-damn lousy leftest POS, go around threatening members with lawsuits

Should anything less be expected of Mike K??

Pathetic.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   19:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Murron (#105)

"I don't like to spend hours searching for info"

Except you turned up a bogus account in a forum I have never heard of and threatened to out the information in here unless I did as you say.

You took allot of effort to allegedly mine the Internet for information on me, then you shove it in my face and tell me that unless I do as you say, you will reveal it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:53:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Ferret Mike (#102)

Found it, and as I thought, no threats, no calls for law enforcement interdiction, nothing.

I think Mammy Yokum is referring to this post:

Then you will wish to terminate mine as well. Murron's posting of a picture of a hangman's noose in a thread discussing a Secret Service protectee was blatantly racist and threatening in tone, and CFG was completely correct in wanting to report it to the relevant authorities.

Further, you have repeatedly failed to terminate the accounts of REAL racist posters such as Idol Hanz and Dewy, who freely and continually use the terms "nigger" and "darkie" in casual conversation, and enjoy your continued protection even when their racist posts are reported to you. I do not associate with nor tolerate people of that stripe in any way, even on a chat site on the Internet.

And just to provide some additional incentive for you to ban me, I have already provided the URL of Murron's post to the local Secret Service office. I suspect that somebody will be knocking at her door very soon. And if they are at all on the ball, they will be knocking on YOUR door as well for facilitating and encouraging such ILLEGAL behavior.

I will continue to scan LibertyPost from time to time, and will continue to report content I feel to be directly threatening to Secret Service protectees to the relevant authorities.

Why don't you just change the name of this web site to Stormfront Post or something that would more readily identify the average tenor and quality of posts here? If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly.

Goodbye.

strelitsa posted on 2008-10-16 18:30:27 ET Reply Trace

"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-08   19:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Murron (#105)

Is that how you always work, blackmail people to do as you want? Well?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Ferret Mike, Murron (#107)

Besides, the only ban that matters is the last one as Ferret Mike.

You're a sleazy, lying, multiple account weasel.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-08   19:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Skip Intro (#110)

Heh, Thanks. Yeah, I think that has to be what she refers to.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Ferret Mike (#107)

You LIE mike, you lie, spin, and backpaddle, anything, but you NEVER will own up to the truth, even with staring you in the face, well I'm fking sick of it, after this, you will go on filter, I only do this because you stab people in the back if they avoid you, so I'd like to leave a little food for thought that they can see for themselves...and what you spin your way out of it!

But right now, I have a cake in the oven, I will be right back!

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   19:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Murron (#114)

The cake ain't all that's baked in your house, Sweetie.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   19:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Ferret Mike (#115)

"Cake in the oven" is Mammy code for the still needs tending.

"Our quest for the lesser evil has arrived at an impasse. On one hand we have a world-class Doublethinker who expects us to thank him for keeping promises he has vigorously broken and to accept the cynical notion that war is peace. On the other we have a mob of flesh-eating galoots who promise to give us Orwell’s Hate Week 52 weeks a year for as long as it takes them to bring about Armageddon. " — Jeff Huber

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-08   20:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Skip Intro (#110)

Goodbye.

strelitsa posted on 2008-10-16 18:30:27 ET Reply Trace

Skippy, you are so fookin gay!!!!!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-08   20:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Ferret Mike (#111)

Is that how you always work, blackmail people to do as you want? Well?

uh..yeah..sure, is there any other way? fruit cake..with nuts!

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   20:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Murron, Ferret Mike, skippy (#114)

You LIE mike, you lie, spin, and backpaddle, anything, but you NEVER will own up to the truth,

That is normal behavior for leftwingnut idiots.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-08   20:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Ibluafartsky (#119)

That is normal behavior for leftwingnut idiots.

NO..NO, it's worse than that, the damn engines runnin, but there's no one behind the wheel....lol

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   20:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Murron (#120)

there's no one behind the wheel....lol

They are all cowards.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-09-08   20:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Ferret Mike (#109)

Except you turned up a bogus account in a forum I have never heard of and threatened to out the information in here unless I did as you say.

You took allot of effort to allegedly mine the Internet for information on me, then you shove it in my face and tell me that unless I do as you say, you will reveal it.

Don't flatter yourself, you just aren't important enough to deliberately seek on the interet.

Anyway, I'm glad you called this account 'bogus', you lying POS, stevie wonder could have spotted your writing style blindfolded.

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion"~ Albert Camus

Murron  posted on  2010-09-08   20:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Murron (#122)

"Don't flatter yourself, you just aren't important enough to deliberately seek on the interet.

Anyway, I'm glad you called this account 'bogus', you lying POS, stevie wonder could have spotted your writing style blindfolded."

Yeah, the cut and paste function is everyone's friend; right?

IT also has a picture of Jeff Luers in it, a man who got out of prison last year.

Someone mimicking me would post on him, but I have no interest in posting his picture in May 2010 when he is back at school and trying to be less conspicuous after serving his time for arson.

No, it was not me doing the account. And I had never heard of this forum until you showed it to me. You either posted it, know who did, or spent an awful lot of time looking for signs of me anywhere you could think of looking on the Internet.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   20:30:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Murron (#122) (Edited)

#4. To: ari (#3)

Since this case was in Canada, I don't think you have anything to worry about

Hi ari,

There are so many frivilous lawsuits floating around, sort of made me wary of what should and should not be discussed. I like this web-site and do not want to lose it, especially with anything stupit I may say.

Mom_Grandmother posted on 2002-08-16 13:22:50 ET Reply Trace

Yeah, you have to watch the saying something stupid part. You are indeed prone to it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-09-08   20:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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