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Title: Redlands Mall closing (Documenting California's Collapse is Fun Update!)
Source: The Sun
URL Source: http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_15987772#ixzz0yfdzLzFz%3E
Published: Sep 6, 2010
Author: Chantal M. Lovell
Post Date: 2010-09-06 17:55:05 by Nebuchadnezzar
Keywords: None
Views: 16527
Comments: 52

Redlands Mall closing Chantal M. Lovell, Staff Writer Posted: 09/03/2010 06:46:59 PM PDT

REDLANDS - Redlands Mall tenants - about six in all - received a letter dated Aug. 2 informing them their leases were being terminated and they need to exit their stores by the close of business Sept. 30. Thereafter, the Redlands Mall will be closed.

"They (GGP representatives) came in and told us that they're out of bankruptcy and things were going to look good and then the next thing we know they come in and say they're closing the mall," store owner Wes Hayden said Friday. Hayden is owner of three stores in the mall: Eyeware Specialist, Rittman's Tuxedo and Hayden-Brothers Coffee.

When reached Thursday, David Keating, vice president of Corporate Communications for GGP said that the Redlands Mall will fall under Spinco, a subsidiary company that was created as GGP moves back into business. He stressed that Spinco will not abandon or neglect its properties. He did not mention the closure.

"The properties that are staying with General Growth are our regional and super regional malls," Keating said. "With the emergence from bankruptcy, we are focusing on our core assets. These properties that are going to be under Spinco are not bad properties. They really have a lot of potential and Spinco is going to pay attention to them, determine how best these properties can succeed and bring them up to their full potential."

But the mall business owners said they have been told a very different story.

"They said they're going to put a fence Advertisement around it until the economy picks up," Hayden said. "Why would you blight a city like this by putting a fence around the mall. We're not a prison."

Oscar Orci, director of Development Services for Redlands, said the city - which owns the parking lot at the mall - has been in talks with GGP about how to keep the property safe while it is vacant.

"We're talking to them so we can maintain the grounds and the lights, maintain the parking areas," Orci said. "We're working to make sure the mall is, or at least appears to be in good maintenance."

Redlands Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Kathie Thurston said the chamber and city are trying to help relocate the mall businesses and want to keep them downtown if possible. She said they are all still looking for new locations.

Ana Duarte, a sales clerk at Sterling & Company, said they are looking for a new spot downtown.

"We're looking at State Street and have looked at a couple places," Duarte said of the store that has been in the mall about 10 years. "I don't know if I expected the mall to close, but businesses have been closing since Gottchalks left (summer 2009). We stayed OK - we didn't lose too much business but we did see a decrease in new customers who would come in while shopping at Gottchalks."

"I was expecting something to happen," said Kram Daudi, who has been in the mall five years with his store Gamestop. "I was thinking maybe a department store would come in. At this time in this economy, I can't afford to relocate. I'm going to put everything in storage. Nobody is going to be OK when they've lost their business, but I believe in God and I believe something good is going to happen. I was happy here."

Hayden said he has been in the mall for 34 years and is sad to go. He said the short notice given by GGP is bad business.

"This has been a heart-breaker because I talked businesses into staying here. If I had any idea they didn't play to keep the mall open, I never would have done that. I would have told the other businesses to pick-up and run. They had to have known months ago. They didn't just decide to close overnight. They made us think everything would be OK."

Orci said the city is working to make the mall into a valuable, thriving asset and does not want to see it empty for long.

"It's going to be closed but that doesn't mean it's going to be abandoned for the next 20 years," Thurston said. "We have to have life in the center of downtown. We are doing everything in our power to make the best outcome of this."

Keating said he is unaware of any plans to sell the mall.

Keating did not return calls Friday to discuss the closure. The mall's Senior General Manager James Harris could not be reached for comment Friday.

The perimeter stores, including CVS Pharmacy, Denny's restaurant, Mattress Showroom and Union Bank of California will remain open, Thurston said.


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#13. To: Liberator (#11)

Thanks for studying my posts.

Who studies your Spam posting of the Bible? Your other personalities?

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   12:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#12)

Where's "Irag"?? What's "I-rag?

Because you act like you are perennially on the rag.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   12:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator, mininggold (#11)

You are possessed by TWO demons - the Gilbey's and the devil.

Hooooooo-boy, NOW you've done it.

She's possessed by ol' number 43!?!?!?!?

ROFLMAO!

______________________________________________________________________________

All the disastrous decisions we're dealing with now started with Bush . . .
-Skippy, the boy wonder.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-07   12:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#13)

FAIL.

Shall we give you a parting gift? How about a St. Bernard to help you tote around Granny's special "rheumatism medicine" into the mountains when your fleeing the Mexicans?

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-07   12:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ignore Amos (#15)

Hooooooo-boy, NOW you've done it.

She's possessed by ol' number 43!?!?!?!?

What's the matter Ignore, your weekend lobbying job got you thirsty too, like your diabetic, bipolar girlfriend? Gilbeys evidently is her drink of choice as she always brings it up.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   12:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ignore Amos, mininggold (#15)

She's possessed by ol' number 43!?!?!?!?

Yes, but her lifelong dream has been to find a bottle with an alcohol content of 666%.

;-)

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-07   12:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#16)

Shall we give you a parting gift? How about a St. Bernard to help you tote around Granny's special "rheumatism medicine" into the mountains when your fleeing the Mexicans?

I'm telling them that New Jersey is ripe for the pickings. Your Mafia employers need some of that old fashioned free market competition.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   12:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold, Ignore Amos (#17)

"What's the matter Ignore, blah, blah, blah....hiccup."

Oooops! SOMEBODY needs a drink. And quick, lol.

Don't forget to munch on a few beer nuts or pretzels for breakfast, MG.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-07   12:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#18)

Yes, but her lifelong dream has been to find a bottle with an alcohol content of 666%.

;-)

Libby always has to touch bases with her tag team. She has to have a poster back her up. ALWAYS. LOLOLOL

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   12:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#17)

What's the matter Ignore, your weekend lobbying job got you thirsty too . . .

As a matter of fact yes, I am thirsty. That's why I'm here at lunch drinking my daily Diet Pepsi.

Thanks for asking!

______________________________________________________________________________

All the disastrous decisions we're dealing with now started with Bush . . .
-Skippy, the boy wonder.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-07   12:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold, Liberator (#21)

Yes, but her lifelong dream has been to find a bottle with an alcohol content of 666%.

Hmmm . . . I just thought.

Pot-smokers have their magazine called "High Times."

Maybe mining can come up with her own mag: "End-Times."

______________________________________________________________________________

All the disastrous decisions we're dealing with now started with Bush . . .
-Skippy, the boy wonder.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-07   12:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ignore Amos (#23)

Maybe mining can come up with her own mag: "End-Times."

Your 'Revelation Queen' posting partner has that already covered.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   12:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#21) (Edited)

I saw your comment about editing and just as I was sending my last comment the same thought occurred to me.

He could have edited it out before it was discovered.

Stone closed the thread before I could edit that in tho.

4um has a policy of allowing that. Tull is a moderator - and from what I've heard an adulterer, which is a cheat. I'd not be surprised if he put it in here and then edited it out either.

war  posted on  2010-09-07   12:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war, AKA Stone (#25)

Stone closed the thread before I could edit that in tho.

I wonder why he closed his own info thread? It will just disappear from the bar if it's not a sticky.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   13:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#25)

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

- Miningold's tag

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-07   13:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

- Miningold's tag

Please don't give me credit for your inability to quote the whole tag. Creep.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   13:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All (#28) (Edited)

Tull must be a threatening cross forum posters here with bannings if certain threads do not disappear from the sidebar. Since Tull believes that cross forum stalking should be a one way street, it's sort of easy to narrow it down.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   13:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mr Winky the perv (#25)

Why, it's Mr Winky!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-07   13:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

Why, it's Mr Winky!!!!

Stalking again.... why don't you just go home?

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   13:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mininggold (#29)

Tull must be a threatening cross forum posters here with bannings if certain threads do not disappear from the sidebar. Since Tull believes that cross forum stalking should be a one way street, it's sort of easy to narrow it down.

I chose to close it. Everyone knows what the thread says.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-07   13:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Tull never answered rhe question.

war  posted on  2010-09-07   13:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mininggold (#31)

Stalking again.... why don't you just go home?

To which one?

war  posted on  2010-09-07   13:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

- Miningold's tag

No need to get weird.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-09-07   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#34)

To which one?

He should hire onto Youtube.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   13:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#35)

He posted that two weeks ago.

war  posted on  2010-09-07   13:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#34)

DELETED

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-07   13:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#35)

It's a false reply to his false accusation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-07   13:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#4)

I'm here to help you out of your severe mental illness, Lube. You have the delusion that your opinion means something. I'm doing the Lord's work, just for you.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." — Jack Handey

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-07   13:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#38)

I can't repeat Miningold's tag?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-07   13:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mininggold (#36)

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-07   13:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mininggold (#5)

At this point I would prefer top get rid of the East coast assholes first as they are the attractant.

If you look at California's congressional delegation, an awful lot of them are east coast scum. Too bad we can't make then go back home.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." — Jack Handey

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-07   13:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jethro Tull (#41) (Edited)

I can't repeat Miningold's tag?

Heh Stalker dude.....You are quoting yourself, not my tag of which you conveniently excluded 50%.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   13:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Skip Intro (#43)

If you look at California's congressional delegation, an awful lot of them are east coast scum. Too bad we can't make then go back home

Pelosi's from Ohio too.

Fiorina's in Israel kissing butt. I guess I'm going to have to vote third party or more likely just leave it blank

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   13:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mininggold (#44)

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-09-07   13:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jethro Tull, all (#42) (Edited)

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Direct Tull quote with no qualifying icons or happy faces. He's too scared to take credit. Instead he prefers to stalk those he has banned, across internet forums, and then calls himself a conservative and wants to head up a revolution. LOLOLOL

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   13:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mininggold (#45)

Pelosi's from Ohio too.

Eastcoasters going to California

She's from Baltimore, actually. But no matter.

Why are you blaming east-coasters for going to California.

Would you blame flies for being attracted to shit?

______________________________________________________________________________

All the disastrous decisions we're dealing with now started with Bush . . .
-Skippy, the boy wonder.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-07   14:55:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ignore Amos (#48)

She's from Baltimore, actually. But no matter.

Yep, my mistake. Her daddy was mayor or similar.

They've been coming here steady for about the last 45 years and going right into politics but I'll take note of your need to hold east coasters blameless for the crap they create.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-09-07   15:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: mininggold (#49)

They've been coming here steady for about the last 45 years and going right into politics

Don't forget that Meg Whitman is from New York and Carly Fiorina is from Texas.

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." — Jack Handey

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-09-07   15:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mininggold (#49)

but I'll take note of your need to hold east coasters blameless for the crap they create.

You did note my comparison of east coasters to flies, right?

______________________________________________________________________________

All the disastrous decisions we're dealing with now started with Bush . . .
-Skippy, the boy wonder.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-09-07   16:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Skip Intro, aka LP's Script Tracker (#40)

You're nothing but a dishonorable little voyeuristic POS.

I'm surprised you're not track little boys' rooms, and peeking underneath bathroom stalls. Cyber-Voyeur.

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-08   22:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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