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International News Title: Retarded Freak Says God Not Needed to Create Universe The Big Bang was the result of the inevitable laws of physics and did not need God to spark the creation of the Universe, Stephen Hawking has concluded. Photo: GETTY
The scientist has claimed that no divine force was needed to explain why the Universe was formed.
In his latest book, The Grand Design, an extract of which is published in Eureka magazine in The Times, Hawking said: “Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.”
He added: “It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the Universe going.”
In A Brief History of Time, Prof Hawking's most famous work, he did not dismiss the possibility that God had a hand in the creation of the world.
He wrote in the 1988 book: "If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason — for then we should know the mind of God.”
In his new book he rejects Sir Isaac Newton's theory that the Universe did not spontaneously begin to form but was set in motion by God.
In June this year Prof Hawking told a Channel 4 series that he didn't believe that a "personal" God existed. He told Genius of Britain: "The question is: is the way the universe began chosen by God for reasons we can't understand, or was it determined by a law of science? I believe the second. If you like, you can call the laws of science 'God', but it wouldn't be a personal God that you could meet, and ask questions."
Until his retirement last year Prof Hawking was Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at the University of Cambridge, a post previously held by Newton.
The book, co-written by American physicist Leonard Mlodinow, is published on September 9.
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#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Speaking of retarded freaks, who created god, Stone?
Ha! You're both going to have a very, very nasty surprise one day. Stone will get the last laugh on you.
You believe that your all loving God with his Son Jesus Christ will allow jeering in heaven? More reason I'm happy I don't believe in them...
Sigh. I guess I'm going to have to explain this to you one more time. There never was an "all loving God". Just read the OT. Do you see a "loving God" anywhere in there? The "Old God" got his ass fired and was replaced by the "Nice God", who, if you read the NT, you'll find wasn't all that nice either, scaring people by telling them that the END OF THE WORLD was imminent and they'd better get their act together, pronto. The "Old God" got even, though, by getting the "Nice God" killed, destroying any chance of him being taken seriously as the "Messiah" by the Jews. The "Old God" has come back as "Allah", and is kicking the "Nice God's" ass right now. See how simple it all is when you distill out all of the bullshit?
I remember right after 9/11 (but before the Iraq invasion began) I was posting on another bulletin board. The point I made was this: There are punitive (Old Testament) elements in the Bush administration that are itching to lash out in all directions. Then there is Colin Powell with a redemptive (New Testament) message -- we may have been enemies in the past, but if you stand with us now in our time of need, all will be forgiven and we can move forward with a clean slate. Of course, New Testament Powell was right in his expansive picture of what might have been possible. However, the Old Testament neo-commies convinced Bush to punish (the wrong people -- Iraq) instead. Then Powell quit. You may not be very religious (and I'm not a regular church goer), but Jesus's message of redemption is the right message. Skip, please don't confuse the American dispensationalist bible thumpers of your youth with the true redemptive message of Christ and his band of heretics (and yes Jesus was every bit a heretic against the established order as was Thomas Jefferson). That's why the establishment demanded he be terminated.
I rest my case.
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