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Title: Mormon Church, Jewish Leaders Tackle Proxy Baptism
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ASSOCIATED PRESS
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2010-09-01-13-22-09
Published: Sep 1, 2010
Author: ASSOCIATED PRESS
Post Date: 2010-09-01 13:42:10 by Brian S
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Comments: 19
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- The Mormon church says it has changed its genealogical database to better prevent the names of Jews killed in Nazi concentration camps from being submitted for posthumous baptism by proxy. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe the baptism gives deceased people in the afterlife the opportunity to receive the Gospel. Church members are baptized in the place of people whose names are drawn from a church-run database. Jews are offended by the idea that Mormons are trying to alter the religion of Holocaust victims, who were murdered because of their religion. In 1995, the church agreed to eliminate most Holocaust victims from baptism. But database monitoring found the names were still submitted. The Mormon church and the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors said Wednesday the database has been improved.
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#1. To: Brian S, sneakypete (#0)
Petey, what's this all about?
"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara
#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)
Beats me. I didn't even know it was possible to Baptize dead people. Jews are offended by the idea that Mormons are trying to alter the religion of Holocaust victims, who were murdered because of their religion. I can see why Jews,Catholics,Buddhists,or members of any other cult would be upset over this,though. As for Jews being upset over somebody trying to take away their "special victim status" goes,fuck 'em! There is and was nothing "special" about them other than their ability to whine and bitch. The whole "they were murdered because of their religion" bullshit is just that,bullshit. The Nazi's also murdered millions of Catholics,Orthodox Christians,Gypsies,Slavs,atheists,agnostics,etc,etc,etc. Were THEY murdered because they were Jewish? This kind of crap reminds me of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton whining about blacks having welfare cut.
Petey, what's this all about?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#3. To: sneakypete (#2)
Sometimes your clarity is stark.
#4. To: Brian S (#0)
Where do these people come up with this shit?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe the baptism gives deceased people in the afterlife the opportunity to receive the Gospel.
"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.
#5. To: Skip Intro (#4)
Same place they come up with this 'heaven, hell, eternity, 72 virigins, etc' shit... In their deluded and weak minds.
Where do these people come up with this shit?
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
#6. To: sneakypete (#2)
Hey man, I got Papal blessings on paper. It's sitting on the back seat of my car. A gf thingy.
I didn't even know it was possible to Baptize dead people.
"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara
#7. To: Fred Mertz (#6)
I've had 'blessings' in the back seat of many a car and I'm certain none of them were "Papal"... Think we should ping Whitey? ;)
Hey man, I got Papal blessings on paper. It's sitting on the back seat of my car.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
#8. To: sneakypete (#2)
I don't know if I told you that we've got a black priest in rural Kentucky. He's a good fellow. I think he's a first timer...black guy.
"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara
#9. To: Brian S (#7)
No, Whitey wouldn't understand.
"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara
#10. To: Fred Mertz (#6)
I don't care if it rains or freezes.... ....Long as I got my plastic Jesus.... Riding on the dashboard of my car... Oh oh,.....someones going to hell : )
Hey man, I got Papal blessings on paper. It's sitting on the back seat of my car. A gf thingy.
#11. To: Parrot with speed dial (#10)
My formerly Catholic and still friend says - give money, buy your way to Heaven. He has a point.
"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara
#12. To: Fred Mertz (#8)
What's a first timer?
I think he's a first timer..
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#13. To: Parrot with speed dial (#10)
He's so neat,he's so cool He walked across my swimming pool....
Riding on the dashboard of my car...
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#14. To: sneakypete (#12)
First Black Catholic priest in this county.
"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara
#15. To: Parrot with speed dial (#10)
The original version.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#16. To: Fred Mertz (#14)
Oh,ok. There has been black priests for hundreds of years,though. As I am sure you know.
First Black Catholic priest in this county.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
#17. To: sneakypete (#13)
He walked across my swimming pool.... I'm goin ta hell for sure,....here's a current post over at LP You complete fool. Are you unaware of the schism in Christianity due to the Vatican? Gee Hundreds of sects and denominations inside Christianity, Hundreds... I point out a fact about Nazi Germany WW-2 and I'm a fool?.....? Did you know...... CODEX SINAITICUS - THE SINAI BIBLE This is the oldest known Bible in the World. NOT ONLY IS THERE NO RESURRECTION STORY IN THE GOSPEL OF MARK IN THE SINAI BIBLE, THOSE VERSES ARE NOT FOUND IN THE ALEXANDRIAN BIBLE, THE VATICAN BIBLE, THE BEZAE BIBLE OR IN AN ANCIENT LATIN MANUSCRIPT OF MARK CODE-NAMED 'K' BY ANALYSTS. Parrot: Oh oh.... THE RESURRECTION VERSES ARE ALSO ABSENT IN THE OLDEST ARMENIAN VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT AND A NUMBER OF 5TH CENTURY MANUSCRIPTS OF THE ETHIOPIC VERSION. Parrot:....oh oh.. Tony Bushby - who researched the Sinai Bible in The British Museum, tells us more: "The Sinaitic version of the first Gospel written, Mark, starts its story of Jesus at the time he was baptized, 'at about the age of thirty', and no reference is made to Mary, a virgin birth, or the now-called Old Testament 'messianic prophecies'. Words describing Jesus as 'the son of God' do not appear in the opening narrative as they do today. (Note 5) and the family tree tracing a 'messianic bloodline' back to King David is non-existent. The Sinai Bible carries a conflicting version of events surrounding the 'raising of Lazarus' and reveals an extraordinary omission that later became the central doctrine of Christian faith...the resurrection appearances of Jesus Christ and his subsequent ascension into heaven. ......Well after the time of the Council of Nicaea presbyters confirmed that the resurrection description was absent from Greek copies of the Mark gospel. 'Much has been made of the silence of some of the fourth and fifth century Fathers, their silence being interpreted to mean that they either did not know the passage or rejected it. (Note7) Parrot: without exaggerating,..there are thousands of entry/word differences/omissions/word additions, Between the Sinai Bible and todays. "How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us." Pope Leo X (1513-1521) Parrot: You may continue to call me fool,.....I'll understand : )
He's so neat,he's so cool
#18. To: Fred Mertz (#9)
LOL. Indeed!
No, Whitey wouldn't understand.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
#19. To: Fred Mertz (#11)
1 quadrillion in derivatives This planet will never pay that off. I think we are all going to hell now : )
My formerly Catholic and still friend says - give money, buy your way to Heaven. He has a point.
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