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Title: Krugman is Wrong! Stimulus Spending Is "Hurting the Economy,"
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URL Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke ... topStories&pos=9&asset=&ccode=
Published: Aug 31, 2010
Author: Brian Wesbury
Post Date: 2010-08-31 15:19:57 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 256
Comments: 4

Germany and Britain have taken great measures over the last months to shore up spending and devise plans to actively decrease future deficits. The great debate in this country right now is whether we need to be more like our European counterparts to fix our ailing economy or whether we need to push for more government stimulus – ratcheting up our deficits to even higher levels for years to come.

Spend, spend, spend is NOT the way to go, says Brian Wesbury, Chief Economist at First Trust Portfolios. He believes that more government spending would actually “de-stimulate” the economy and interfere with economic growth. Money for stimulus programs has to come from somewhere and he argues that stimulus spending is similar to the old adage: “borrowing from Peter to Paul.”

“They (the government) either had to tax it from somewhere or borrow it from somewhere," says Wesbury and “by moving resources out of one sector into another you have now messed up the natural order of things and you’ve influenced it in a negative way."

Wesbury says THAT is the mistaken belief about government stimulus.

In the following clip, Wesbury tells Aaron and Henry that the government is not needed right now to create growth and that Americans can do it alone. He goes on to say that, “The government has overstepped its bounds. It is too big. And it is hurting the economy.”

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As Europe’s major economies focus on belt-tightening, they are following the path of Ireland. But the once thriving nation is struggling, with no sign of a rapid turnaround in sight, Liz Alderman reports in The New York Times.

Nearly two years ago, an economic collapse forced Ireland to cut public spending and raise taxes, the type of austerity measures that financial markets are pressing on most advanced industrial nations.

“When our public finance situation blew wide open, the dominant consideration was ensuring that there was international investor confidence in Ireland so we could continue to borrow,” said Alan Barrett, chief economist at the Economic and Social Research Institute of Ireland. “A lot of the argument was, ‘Let’s get this over with quickly.’ ”

Rather than being rewarded for its actions, though, Ireland is being penalized. Its downturn has certainly been sharper than if the government had spent more to keep people working. Lacking stimulus money, the Irish economy shrank 7.1 percent last year and remains in recession.

Joblessness in this country of 4.5 million is above 13 percent, and the ranks of the long-term unemployed — those out of work for a year or more — have more than doubled, to 5.3 percent.

Now, the Irish are being warned of more pain to come.

dealbook.blogs.nytimes.co...e-high-cost-of-austerity/

go65  posted on  2010-08-31   15:58:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

Learning from Ireland's recession

By James McCusker

Ireland's economy has plunged into a major recession and shows few signs of recovering anytime soon. Some economic analysts are using the recent Irish experience to question the value of austerity measures and justify the use of deficit-financed stimulus programs.

Ireland's economic troubles began, very much like ours, when its real estate bubble burst -- in their case in 2008.

The Republic of Ireland, that is, southern Ireland, is a country of about 4.5 million people -- bigger than Los Angeles but only a little over half the population of New York City.

Its economic problems and prosperity have to be kept in that perspective, which was clearly lost during its Celtic Tiger years when its remarkable growth and economic transformation was being held up as the model for a New Europe. While there were many good things about Ireland's economic revival, which was long overdue and most welcome, it was really more of a boom town atmosphere than a prototype for development.

Still, the situation in Ireland provides a puzzlement, for when the wheels came off the authorities did everything right. Faced with a ballooning public deficit and a dramatic downturn in their economy, the government acted promptly and decisively.

It launched an austerity program that cut public spending in an effort to return to a sound financial structure that could support economic growth and return some measure of prosperity.

The results, however, have been disappointing. The country's unemployment rate is over 13 percent, the anticipated private investment has not materialized, deficits are growing and the government's cost of borrowing continues to go up. It is not a pretty picture.

Should Ireland's experience be a warning to those in the United States who wish to get off the government stimulus freight train and its runaway deficits?

Not really.

For one thing, the Irish economy is not a city-sized, miniature version of the U.S. economy. It is very different from ours and its greater dependence on foreign trade is just one dimension of that difference.

Partly because of its small size, for example, Ireland's economy was absolutely clobbered when its housing bubble burst. Its gross domestic product declined 3 percent in 2008 -- comparable to our 2.7 percent decline following the Wall Street bust. In the following year, though, Ireland's GDP went down a jaw-dropping 8 percent; while in the year following our two-quarter drop in GDP our economy had already begun to recover.

One reason for the severity of the downturn was that Ireland's central bank did not have the range of options available to our Federal Reserve. While it attempted to inject liquidity into its financial markets, Ireland, because its currency is the euro, does not totally control its own money supply and is not, in that sense, master of its own financial fate.

It could not, for example, purchase public and private debt instruments on the scale that our Fed did to pull that stuff off the market and pull our economy back from the edge of the cliff.

What the Irish experience does do, though, is remind us of how long it takes for private investment to recover from a near-meltdown of the financial system.

For months, even years, after the actual crunch, investors and business managers tend to be overly cautious and easily spooked. A little encouragement would clearly be very helpful.

It should also focus our attention on the strengths and limitations of government stimulus programs.

We can certainly make the case that the much-loathed, now-vilified Troubled Asset Relief Program program saved our bacon -- at least to the extent that it kept a financial crunch from spinning out of control into a disaster. It was an imperfect program, but it did its job.

Stimulus I was also an imperfect program, ill-suited to the economic problem it addressed. When economist John Maynard Keynes recommended government spending programs as a way out of severe recessions, one fundamental reason was that wages were sticky downward -- that is, wage cuts were resisted so unemployment went up and stayed up. In his view, because of this, the economy's unassisted recovery time would be unacceptably long.

Stimulus I, however, was focused on those whose wages were not just sticky, but actually fixed by union contract. The result was that it helped the economy somewhat, but had little impact on the overall employment picture. It wasn't a bad thing to do, assuming we could afford it, but it certainly was not the most effective way to promote an economic recovery.

It slowed things down and left a lot of Americans out of the picture … and hurting.

We shouldn't make that mistake again; our economy is too important. Like the motivational speakers say, if we fail to do better, we will fail to do better.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-31   16:36:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Stimulus I was also an imperfect program, ill-suited to the economic problem it addressed.

On that we agree.

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And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

Leave it to the invisible hand.

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