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Title: American Colonel Sacked After Afghan Rant
Source: Telegraph
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor ... rican-colonel-sacked-after-Afg
Published: Aug 30, 2010
Author: By Ben Farmer in Kabul
Post Date: 2010-08-30 00:29:20 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 36808
Comments: 57

FWIW! This story may have been pulled from the link provided, I checked and it wasn't there but Joe Snuffy got it at LP, it may show up later.

American Colonel Sacked After Afghan Rant

A senior American staff officer has been sacked after publishing a rant against the bureaucracy and endless PowerPoint briefings at Nato's Kabul headquarters.

By Ben Farmer in Kabul

Col Lawrence Sellin was sent home after generals read an opinion piece he had written revealing "little of substance" was done at the coalition's joint command in Afghanistan.

He went on to paint a picture of a bloated organisation, swollen by the vanity of commanders, where endless slide show presentations are given to brief "cognitively challenged" generals.

A spokesman for the joint command confirmed Col Sellin, an army reservist with a PhD who was on his second tour of Afghanistan, had lost his job because of his remarks.

"He's no longer working at the joint command, he has been sent back to his unit."

Col Sellin's piece, written for the news agency UPI and called "PowerPoints 'R' Us", was published on Tuesday, but appears to have been born of a long period of frustration.

Beginning by acknowledging the piece may not benefit his career, but explaining it would be therapeutic, he wrote: "I have been assigned as a staff officer to a headquarters in Afghanistan for about two months. During that time, I have not done anything productive. Fortunately little of substance is really done here, but that is a task we do well."

He said the international coalition's sprawling joint command, which oversees operations across Afghanistan, was probably founded "to provide some general a three-star command".

It had grown from a small group of "dedicated and intelligent officers" to "a stove-piped and bloated organisation, top-heavy in rank" where "you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a colonel".

However he reserved his deepest criticism for the daily slide show presentations junior officers must give to keep top brass updated.

"For headquarters staff, war consists largely of the endless tinkering with PowerPoint slides to conform with the idiosyncrasies of cognitively challenged generals in order to spoon-feed them information," he wrote.

Giving good presentations had become an end in itself, he said, suggesting "random motion, ad hoc processes and an in-depth knowledge of Army minutia and acronyms are also key characteristics of a successful staff officer."

Actual progress in the war had become "optional", he believed.

The cornerstone of HQ life, the commander's update, was delivered to "semi-comatose" audience of one and two-star generals where each briefer has "1 or 2 minutes to impart either information or misinformation".

"Usually they don't do either. Fortunately, none of the information provided makes an indelible impact on any of the generals."

Col Sellin said the joint command was to grow even more because "an officer, who is currently without one, needs a staff of 35 people to create a big splash before his promotion board".

Soldiers have long complained of the growing reliance on slide shows to brief people and the time dedicated to writing the presentations.

A spokesman for the Nato joint command said Col Sellin had been sacked because he had failed to clear his comments with public affairs officers.

Colonel Hans Bush, chief of public affairs said: "His comments do not reflect the reality of the work done every day at [joint command].

"His insights are his own, however, his duty position and responsibilities did not offer him the situational awareness needed to validate his postings to the media."

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#17. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

This has got to Bizarro World...Moron flirting with BOTH badeye and Tull...

I don't get it.

She would be flirting with Hitler or Mao in different circumstances.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-30   12:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

You mean the contraction for 'you are' = you're.

Yes I did, I really should use spell check, but most know I what I meant.

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-30   12:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Murron (#15)

I just hope you don't have another one of your bipolar meltdowns over some little thing.

This past weekend I learned that the little things in life are most important and memorable.

My sister was nicknamed Bunny. She died in her sleep nine years ago. Bunny.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   12:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#17)

Where you been?

I thought we lost you.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   12:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Fred Mertz (#20) (Edited)

Where you been?

I thought we lost you.

Evidently Tull's pissed at my tagline so he got Stone to "warn" me in the name of free speech I guess. This site's getting too much like LP anyway.

These idiots are going to lose bigtime because of their nastiness like they did the last time, too bad the neocon pubby wing had to resort to hiring felons to do their dirty work.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-30   12:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#21)

Evidently Tull's pissed at my tagline so he got Stone to "warn" me in the name of free speech I guess.

Funny how that works. Stone started a thread at Jethro's site that Jethro then pulled. Then Stone posts it here and grovels at Jethro's feet about it.

It does make you wonder who really runs this site now.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-30   12:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#21)

Evidently Tull's pissed at my tagline so he got Stone to "warn" me in the name of free speech I guess.

You've got me LOL - my dog and (hopefully not) neighbors will think I'm going whacky.

Tull does pull aka loser's strings from what I can tell. I'm going to try to change that or be banned for life.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   12:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#21)

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

You've given me one week's worth of laughter already. Thanks!


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   12:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Skip Intro (#22)

Funny how that works. Stone started a thread at Jethro's site that Jethro then pulled. Then Stone posts it here and grovels at Jethro's feet about it.

It does make you wonder who really runs this site now.

Then Stone in the good Christian tradition posts a similiar about buckeroo. As if anyone here really could give a rip about either poster. There really is a father/son quality about the Stone/Tull relationship. I would bet one was reared without a daddy.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-30   12:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#25)

Then Stone in the good Christian tradition posts a similiar about buckeroo

Buckeroo posted it. I renamed it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-30   12:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#26)

aka loser, please be your own man.

Like petey said, try not to have a 1st Amendment problem.

I'm cheering for you. Your two-bit site has more activity than elPee.

Don't fuck it up.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   13:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mininggold (#21)

You got a "time-out"?

Geezus...LP Lite...

war  posted on  2010-08-30   13:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mininggold (#25)

I would bet one was reared...

...I'd not bet against it...

war  posted on  2010-08-30   13:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#27)

Sound familiar?

war  posted on  2010-08-30   13:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#23) (Edited)

Tull does pull aka loser's strings from what I can tell. I'm going to try to change that or be banned for life.

C'mon...Tull WANTS this site to do well. Can't you tell by the way he continually encourages Stoney to be tolerant of different opinions - much as Tull does at his goomah's site?

war  posted on  2010-08-30   13:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#31)

Your two-bit site has more activity than elPee.

I wish I could be more magnanimous....but that's as good as I get.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   13:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mininggold (#21)

I just read your tagline for the first time dummy. I have the power to change it. But it don't change it. Because I don't give a shit about it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-30   13:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)

Did you give mininggold a timeout, Goldi Jr.?


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   13:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

That "tagline" was a post that Tull made to me.

You banned me because of a lesser comment I made to Whitey and for which you went Postal over.

This is a PRIME example of the consistency you lack.

war  posted on  2010-08-30   13:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)

This is a PRIME example of the consistency you lack.

Consistency...prune juice...oatmeal...


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   14:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#32)

Ha...

Your ..."one nickel at a time" education betrays you sometimes...

war  posted on  2010-08-30   14:01:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#28) (Edited)

You got a "time-out"?

Geezus...LP Lite...

For no reason stated but bait to impress his daddy after one of his stupid accusations which would not pass even light scrutiny. I'll let Stone try to prove a negative on this one.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-30   14:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#38) (Edited)

I suffered the same fate for calling that fat fuck of a NJ Governor that fat fuck of a New Jersey governor. Tull and Boofer thought it worse than Clinton lying about a blow job.

war  posted on  2010-08-30   14:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#39)

suffered the same fate for calling that fat fuck of a NJ Governor that fat fuck of a New Jersey governor. Tull and Boofer thought it worse than Clinton lying about a blow job.

These politician worshippers and their obsessive neediness for a Messiah to save them from themselves, are ruining this country. And they are trying to switch the standards of the process by implying it's now the citizens having to prove they are good enough to vote for whatever royal elite is throwing in their hat to further screw the country.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

The good "cop", Jethro Tull explaining how to prevent a Palin family tradition in YOUR family.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-30   15:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Murron (#18)

"Yes I did, I really should use spell check, but most know I what I meant."

Heehee, no worries; spell check has let me down too. We had bugged Stone about this until he learned how to write 'you're,' so I was just being silly about it in the spirit of that.

Posting on forums 15 years has vastly improved my spelling and writing, and I've seen you improve over the years too - as with others I read a long time.

Keep on posting. Reading, writing, thinking, debating, these are all good things not enough people do enough of. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-30   15:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Murron (#0)

Colonel Hans Bush, chief of public affairs said: "His comments do not reflect the reality of the work done every day at [joint command].

Is there something about the name Bush that automatically makes somebody a complete fool and liar?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-30   17:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Murron (#3)

If it's a war of words you want with Mad Dog, take it back to LP you sniveling coward,

Mad Dog posts over here all the time

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-30   17:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: war (#5)

But, get this, she claims to be a journalist.

So what? BaBa WaWa claims to be a journalist,too.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-30   17:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#42)

Is there something about the name Bush that automatically makes somebody a complete fool and liar?

Only to an ignorant and uninformed person, but I wouldn't advise you to go there and analyze why....&;-)

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-30   17:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#43)

Mad Dog posts over here all the time

Yes, I know, I just wish they'd give some of these threads a chance and not turn all of them into a pissing contest....

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-30   17:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Murron (#46)

Yes, I know, I just wish they'd give some of these threads a chance and not turn all of them into a pissing contest....

Mad Dog occasionally posts a non-political thread and makes intelligent comments.

Yukon has never posted anything but posts intended to kill threads.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-30   17:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete (#44)

She makes a better case.

war  posted on  2010-08-30   17:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#47) (Edited)

Mad Dog occasionally posts a non-political thread and makes intelligent comments.

Yukon has never posted anything but posts intended to kill threads.

You bet, I think if I got into a political row with MD, lol...I've seen him in action, he'd shred me...&;-)

btw, you have war pegged.....

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-30   17:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Murron (#49)

btw, you have war pegged.....

You hallucinatin' Mammy?

What's in that corncob pipe?

war  posted on  2010-08-30   17:58:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: war (#48)

She makes a better case.

"She" who? I don't know much about Murron,but BaBa makes Hay-Raldo look like a journalist with integrity by comparison.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-30   18:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Murron (#0)

Powerpoints... little of substance... bloated organization...

This guy should probably be named the new Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs...

Why do "conservatives" believe that the military is immune to the waste and inefficiency that plagues all other government agencies???

Here's an interesting tidbit:

In the Navy, Captains command ships. One ship, one captain.

Admirals command fleets of ships.

Today, there are more Admirals than ships in the Navy.

WHY?????

Who thinks that this level of overhead and bureaucracy makes us more safe rather than less safe? WHO?????

We could cut the military budget in half and still spend twice as much as China and Russia put together.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-30   18:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#51)

Oh! I see what the turd is talking about. Yeah, quite a few years ago I did, on my own, write about our local law enforcement, the district attorney and an assorment of judges, the paper published what I wrote....surprisingly, but they did. war thinks because I mis-spell some words...I lied, or something to that affect.

What stupid doesn't realize, or refuse to think about, everything I wrote was spell checked and edited, before it was ever printed!

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-30   18:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: jwpegler (#52)

Today, there are more Admirals than ships in the Navy.

WHY?????

Because it also requires a Flag Officer to command a desk.

Besides,you have the various trade schools spitting out legacy graduates,and they have to have somewhere to get their tickets punched while they are putting in time waiting for their own flags. Where better than as a staff officer for one of daddy's pals?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-30   19:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Murron (#53)

What stupid doesn't realize, or refuse [sic] to think about

Chuckles...you're right...you make a much better case...

war  posted on  2010-08-30   20:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: sneakypete (#51)

Just because you don't like someone it does not mean they ain't what they are.

war  posted on  2010-08-30   20:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#56)

Just because you don't like someone it does not mean they ain't what they are.

If you think "I only use Texaco gasoline in my car" BaBa is a serious journalist,just come out and say so.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-31   7:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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