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Title: Beck Says US Has 'Wandered in Darkness' Too Long
Source: AOL NEWS
URL Source: http://www.aolnews.com/nation/artic ... in-rally/19611981?ncid=webmail
Published: Aug 28, 2010
Author: Phillip Elliot
Post Date: 2010-08-28 11:57:28 by war
Keywords: None
Views: 187384
Comments: 203

WASHINGTON (Aug. 28) -- From the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck told a crowd of tens of thousands of people Saturday that the U.S. has too long "wandered in darkness."

His rally's marquee speaker, Sarah Palin, praised "patriots" in the audience for "knowing never to retreat."

The two champions of the tea party movement spoke from the very spot where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech 47 years ago. Some civil rights leaders who have denounced Beck's choice of a venue staged a rival rally to honor King.

Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee who may make a White House run in 2012, said activists must honor King's legacy by paying tribute to the men and women who protect the United States in uniform.

Beck, pacing back and forth on the marble steps, said he was humbled by the size of the crowd, which stretched along the Washington Mall's long reflecting pool nearly all the way to the Washington Monument.

"Something beyond imagination is happening," he said. "America today begins to turn back to God."

"For too long, this country has wandered in darkness," said Beck, a Fox News host. He said it was now time to "concentrate on the good things in America, the things we have accomplished and the things we can do tomorrow."

Neither Beck nor Palin made overtly political comments.

Palin, greeted by chants of "USA, USA, USA" from many in the crowd, told the gathering, "It is so humbling to get to be here with you today, patriots. You who are motivated and engaged ... and knowing never to retreat."

"We must restore America and restore her honor," said the former Alaska governor, echoing the name of the rally, "Restoring Honor."

Palin told the crowd she wasn't speaking as a politician. "No, something more, something much more. I've been asked to speak as the mother of a soldier and I am proud of that distinction. Say what you want to say about me, but I raised a combat vet and you can't take that away from me." It was a reference to her son, Track, 20, who served a yearlong deployment in Iraq.

Palin honored military members in her speech. She likened the rally participants to the civil rights activists who came to the National Mall to hear King's historic speech. She said the same spirit that helped civil rights activists overcome oppression, discrimination and violence would help this group as well.

"We are worried about what we face. Sometimes, our challenges seem insurmountable," Palin said.

"Look around you. You're not alone," Palin told participants.

The crowd - organizers had a permit for 300,000 - was vast, with people standing shoulder to shoulder across large expanses of the Mall. The National Park Service stopped doing crowd counts in 1997 after the agency was accused of underestimating numbers for the 1995 Million Man March.

Civil rights leaders protested the event and scheduled a 3-mile plus march from a high school to the site of a planned King memorial near the Tidal Basin and not far from Beck's gathering.

Beck has said he did not intend to choose the King anniversary for his rally but had since decided it was "divine providence."

Organizers said their aim was to honor military personnel and others "who embody our nation's founding principles of integrity, truth and honor."

Many in the crowd watched the proceedings on large television screens. On the edges of the Mall, vendors sold "Don't Tread on Me" flags, popular with tea party activists. Other activists distributed fliers urging voters "dump Obama." The pamphlet included a picture of the president with a Hitler-style mustache.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, leading the civil rights march, said Beck's demonstration was an anti-government rally that advocated states' rights - counter to the message in King's speech, in which the civil right leader appealed to the federal government to ensure equality.

"The structural breakdown of a strong national government, which is what they're calling for, is something that does not serve the interests of the nation and it's something that Dr. King and others fought against," Sharpton told C-SPAN hours before his event.

People began filling up the space between the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument early in the day, many waving American flags. Wasington's subway system was extremely crowded with long lines of people trying to get to the rally. Metro spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein said that there was crowding at least a dozen stations.

Ricky Thomas, 43, a SWAT team police officer from Chesapeake Beach, Md., brought his 10-year old son Chase to the Beck rally. "I wanted my son to see democracy in action," Thomas said.

He said he wants government to stay out of people's lives. He acknowledged that he works for government, but said it's "a part of government that helps people when they are in trouble."

Beck has given voice to those angry and frustrated with President Barack Obama and other Democrats this election year, especially members of the tea party movement.

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#1. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Chuckles...what a fucking whinefest this was...all because in a FREE AND FAIR election they got their asses handed to them for fucking up the country.

Ricky Thomas, 43, a SWAT team police officer from Chesapeake Beach, Md., brought his 10-year old son Chase to the Beck rally. "I wanted my son to see democracy in action," Thomas said.

He said he wants government to stay out of people's lives. He acknowledged that he works for government, but said it's "a part of government that helps people when they are in trouble."

Real life is always the best comedy. This guy gets paid to snipe Americans for a living and that's "helping" but feeding, clothing, healing and educating is not.

Can't make this shit up.

war  posted on  2010-08-28   11:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: war (#1)

Chuckles...what a fucking whinefest this was...all because in a FREE AND FAIR election they got their asses handed to them for fucking up the country.

Is that what they'd been saying at the Daily Kos? Or is that your own analysis of an event you barely watched in between vodka tonics?

The truth was, we've never seen a political event of that magnitude with more positive, encouraging, and honorable messages....ever.

If you wanted to see the real whinefest and gloomfest, Sharpton, Jealous, the NAACP, and various other b*tchers & moaners were doing their thing afterward in DC. I'm sure you were glued to you barstool and cheering it on. WOO-HOO SHARPY!!

Btw, the Dems took over Congress in 2006 and with it, control of the budget. You can lay the war spending in Bush's lap, but nearly everything ELSE is on the Dems. This is the problem with you insane Leftists - you are never one with reality.

Liberator  posted on  2010-08-29   10:40:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Liberator (#48)

Btw, the Dems took over Congress in 2006 and with it, control of the budget. You can lay the war spending in Bush's lap, but nearly everything ELSE is on the Dems.

Budget deficits by year - source: CBO

2001 128.2
2002 -157.8
2003 -377.6
2004 -412.7
2005 -318.3
2006 -248.2
2007 -160.7
2008 -454.8 + TARP -750.0

Looks like Bush and his GOP Congress produced the biggest deficit in 2004 (not counting 2008 - the year Republican economic policies came home to roost)

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-29   11:12:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: lucysmom (#63)

Looks like Bush and his GOP Congress produced the biggest deficit in 2004 (not counting 2008 - the year Republican economic policies came home to roost)

That would mostly be about THE WAR. Oh, and yes - Bush had spend money on traditional Democratic socialist programs as well - which they gladly voted for. TARP was mostly Dem-supported but considered "bi-partisan."

But in light of these deary numbers and obvious HUGE deficit, why then did 0bama and the Dems spending $850 BILLION more on the phony "Stimulus"? Or have his Commie Party take over 1/6 of the US economy and crater it?

All you and your fellow Commies know how to to is spend stupidly the money that we DON'T have, nor account for. Hello.

Liberator  posted on  2010-08-29   11:22:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator (#65)

That would mostly be about THE WAR. Oh, and yes - Bush had spend money on traditional Democratic socialist programs as well - which they gladly voted for.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=125

* Defense and related programs have grown far faster than any other area of the budget, while domestic discretionary programs have grown at the slowest rates.

* Taking inflation and population into account, the defense/security category has grown 27 times as rapidly as domestic discretionary programs.

* The defense/security category also has grown four times as rapidly as all domestic programs combined — a category that includes Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the other entitlements, and the domestic discretionary programs.

But in light of these deary numbers and obvious HUGE deficit, why then did 0bama and the Dems spending $850 BILLION more on the phony "Stimulus"?

Its a crisis thing.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-29   11:34:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: lucysmom (#69)

We've already determined that war/defense spending is a waste. Yet, Dems overwhelmingly have voted for IT.

The "crisis" thing was obviously fabricated by Team 0bama. 0bama's $850 billion "Stimulus" stimulated jacksquat. It was nothing but unaccounted-for special funding for 0bama/DEM pet-projects, pals and buddies - not to mentioned how it was money-laundered. IOW, "The Stimulus" was largely taxpayer money flushed down a drain that leads into outer space. ADMIT IT, Lucy.

Liberator  posted on  2010-08-29   11:45:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Liberator (#71)

Yet, Dems overwhelmingly have voted for IT.

Because they were for it or because Joe McCarthy was waiting at every turn in case they did not.

And, truth be told, dems continually raised the issue of exit strategy and actually PAYING for the war - Kerry's so-called "gaffe" of being "for the bill before he was against it" was because the original bill PAID for what was being approved while the GOP passed bill did not - but were called Troop Haters and Unpatriotic every time that they did.

war  posted on  2010-08-29   11:48:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war (#73)

And, truth be told, dems continually raised the issue of exit strategy and actually PAYING for the war - Kerry's so-called "gaffe" of being "for the bill before he was against it" was because the original bill PAID for what was being approved while the GOP passed bill did not - but were called Troop Haters and Unpatriotic every time that they did.

Right. Sure.

DNC script #10011AX

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-29   12:27:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#93)

Right. Sure.

Are you claiming that the dems did not try to make paying for the war an issue every time a re-authorization came up?

war  posted on  2010-08-29   13:59:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: war (#105)

Are you claiming that the dems did not try to make paying for the war an issue every time a re-authorization came up?

They weren't serious about it.

They have the entire government in their power and they have no intention of paying for it.

They believe in borrowing and that is all.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-29   16:15:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#118)

They weren't serious about it.

Well first, they were dems and naturally were pussies. Secondly, when they did raise it, the GOP media went into overdrive portraying them as unpatriotic and troop haters.

And you sound stupid tagging dems with that when it was a GOP POTUS and Congress which borrowed and spent more than had ever been done in this nation.

war  posted on  2010-08-29   17:51:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: war (#123)

Well first, they were dems and naturally were pussies. Secondly, when they did raise it, the GOP media went into overdrive portraying them as unpatriotic and troop haters.

And you sound stupid tagging dems with that when it was a GOP POTUS and Congress which borrowed and spent more than had ever been done in this nation.

For the record, I LOATH all borrowing.

I believe that each and every fiscal year should find ZERO debt. Revenue = spending, and not a dollar more.

I agree that EVERYTHING, be it war or social spending, should be paid for and not borrowed.

I was apoplectic about the Republicans level of spending.

If you didn't know that, well now you do.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-29   18:06:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#124)

Yet here you are rooting for their victory.

The fact is, the GOP are the worst spenders. Period. Always have been.

war  posted on  2010-08-29   18:35:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: war (#127)

Yet here you are rooting for their victory.

The fact is, the GOP are the worst spenders. Period. Always have been.

Dude, anything is better than the socialists.

But we'll see in January how these Republicans act.

I don't have high hopes for them.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-29   18:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#128)

Dude, anything is better than the socialists.

You give me a choice between feeding Raytheon's profits or healing sick people and I'll choose sick people every time and never look back.

war  posted on  2010-08-29   19:03:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: war (#129)

You give me a choice between feeding Raytheon's profits or healing sick people and I'll choose sick people every time and never look back.

No sick people will be healed in aggregate.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-29   19:41:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#130)

You have the art of mumbleswerve down to a "T".

war  posted on  2010-08-29   20:14:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: war (#132)

You have the art of mumbleswerve down to a "T".

Better than being wrong on almost every issue such as you.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-29   21:43:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#135)

Better than being wrong on almost every issue such as you.

You believe it's better to sput bullshit than to take a stand and be wrong?

Explains much.

That asked and observed, you've yet to show me to be wrong.

war  posted on  2010-08-30   9:28:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: war (#138)

That asked and observed, you've yet to show me to be wrong.

Yes I have. You're to delusional to know when you've been schooled.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-30   9:59:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#139)

Yes I have.

Links please...

war  posted on  2010-08-30   10:06:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: war (#140)

Links please...

Okay, you said that government policies aren't responsible for increased health care costs.

My retort: Illegal aliens.

There, you were wrong and I was right.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-30   10:18:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#141)

Okay, you said that government policies aren't responsible for increased health care costs.

I said that where?

Links please...

war  posted on  2010-08-30   10:26:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: war (#142)

I said that where?

Links please...

Do you deny saying it? You said it over the weekend, Mr. Link.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-30   10:40:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#147)

Then you should have no problem providing the quote.

war  posted on  2010-08-30   10:42:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: war (#148)

Then you should have no problem providing the quote.

Sorry, you said it.

I'm way to busy to go around pulling links up for every little comment you made.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-30   11:34:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#150)

Chuckles...caught in yet another lie, Nebby. You're getting as bad as Boofer.

war  posted on  2010-08-30   11:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: war (#157)

Chuckles...caught in yet another lie, Nebby. You're getting as bad as Boofer.

You deny that government policies increase health care costs?

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-30   14:56:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#177)

You deny that government policies increase health care costs?

They are a factor but they aren't the only one...

war  posted on  2010-08-30   15:00:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: war (#178)

Hint....dolt.....nobody who is normal puts someone on filter and then advises people WHO DON'T GIVE A FUCK what you do that you have "put them in their place"...or whatever kiddie like thought scurries through your skull.

Nobody cares dwarf........nobody.....not even your fellow libtard rubbish bags.

FWIW the moment you got smoked off this site your prior homo-muff filter disappeared and the number on my list of your like minded butt-tubes went from 6 to 5.

And there it remains.

You are like a child war.....chuckles.....I jokingly laughingly challenge you to fag out and sure enough ......you don't....this is why you are so easily pwned........FWIW I'll post when you actually do your faggot muff thing......because you will as I most certainment keep you ground beneath my incessantly derisive Vibrams and that pisses you off.

I don't know why Son of Sam comes to mind...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-30   23:00:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Fred Mertz (#187) (Edited)

IN 1998, I started working at Scotia Bank at the corner of Liberty and Broadway. I would take the Ferry over and walk up Broadway to work. In front of 165 Broadway, there was this homeless guy who would focus on me like a laser beam - even if I was in a crowd - and start sscreaming that I had stolen his dog. His screams would reduce to pleas, "Mister, PLEASE give me backk my dog!!!" This went on for the 3 and half years I worked there 1998-2002. He was usually there a couple days a week...sometimes more...sometimes he'd be gone for a week or two.

Fast forward to the Falll of 2007, my son starts to commute in with me as he's attending a HS right acorss the Hudson in Jersey City. For some reason, I decide to walk with him up Broadway to the PATH train, Dude, we got to 135 Bopradway and there he was and he focused on me like a LASER BEAM, after 5 and a half years, he remembered me and started screaming etc about his dog.

Your post of that post just reminded me of that guy.

war  posted on  2010-08-31   9:07:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: e_type_jag (#195)

Dwarf:

"IN 1998, I started working at Scotia Bank at the corner of Liberty and Broadway. I would take the Ferry over and walk up Broadway to work. In front of 165 Broadway, there was this homeless guy who would focus on me like a laser beam - even if I was in a crowd - and start sscreaming that I had stolen his dog....

"Fast forward to the Falll of 2007...we got to 135 Bopradway...after 5 and a half years, he remembered me and started screaming etc about his dog."

Hmmm...What do you make of dwarf's story? (laughing already....)

Liberator  posted on  2010-09-01   1:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#199. To: Liberator (#197)

Hmmm...What do you make of dwarf's story? (laughing already....)

From a classic psych sense, what gives this fake away is his ever-present need to go into minutia when doing his "recollection" thing.

Additionally ...... the sheer absurdity of the story speaks volumes.

But ultimately......it's a dwarf "story"......the only item that fits the story that dwarf would know of would be the PATH trains which he lives on 6 months of the year.

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-09-01 22:36:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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