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Title: Ronald Reagan dedicated the Space Shuttle Columbia to the people of Afghanistan
Source: you tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abkg94I_uWo
Published: Aug 25, 2010
Author: NA
Post Date: 2010-08-25 20:01:57 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 15547
Comments: 24

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"These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America's Founding Fathers" ~President Ronald Reagan 1985

'In 1982, Ronald Reagan dedicated the Space Shuttle Columbia to the resistance fighters in Afghanistan.'

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

The more that the history of the US and the globe progresses the more it reveals that Reagan was on the wrong side of it.

war  posted on  2010-08-25   22:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike, War, a k a stone, badeye, Mad Dog (#0)

You two realize that the Taliban were founded in 1994, right?

But don't let something like a fact stop you from telling a good lie.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-25   23:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#2)

LOL!

These libTURD whores/tools/FOOLS LIE as a matter of course.

They are incapable of the objective TRUTH.

Hell they don't even believe in such a thing as the OBJECTIVE TRUTH.

Orwell had them PEGGED.

IMO they are filth.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   23:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#2)

The Taliban was a group that sprang up in Afghanistan amongst the Pashtu in the mid 90s. The Mujahadeen fighters of Afghanistan during the 80s and early 90s were not the Taliban, and the Taliban rose up as a local group not connected to them.

I understand your confusion, I even believed that, too, for a while. In the late 90s and around 9-11 there were a lot of reports that the Taliban was the same group, largely because of it's connection to Usama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. Since then we've learned a lot more abou them. The Taliban was a local group who sprang up in the Pashtu region of Afghanistan in 96 as a reaction against the lawlessness of the warlords who were dividing Afghanistan. They had strict laws and violent enforcement of them, and as the defeated a couple of the warlords, they were joined by others, including some of the remnants of the mujahadeen. The warlords they were fighting were also remnants of the mujahadeen, though, so you could even argue that the Taliban rose up against the mujahadeen.

Later, when Clinton tried to capture Bin Laden and Bin Laden hid out in Afghanistan, the leaders of the Taliban allied with him, and Bin Laden began helping the Taliban to train its soldiers. But in the beginning the Taliban was a completely separate group.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   0:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

Thank you for your offer to assist me in battle against whatever...

I will contact you if I need you. Thank you.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   0:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#2)

The video this is from is is the BBC documentary, The Power of Nightmares.

Russia entered Afghanistan during a civil war with Prime Minister Amin who wanted a more Western slant government instead of traditional Muslim, but he also lead a communist base government. This outraged the citizens and they joined with the Mujahidin to overthrow him. They declared a jihad on his supporters and the Russians who had entered to support Amin. Russia stated they had been asked to help and were not invading. The resistance were called terrorists.

Amin was shot by the Russians and replaced with Babrak Karmal who now needed Russian soldiers to protect him and the government. Afghan soldiers deserted to join with the Mujahidin. The United Nations had condemned the invasion as early as January 1980 but a Security Council motion calling for the withdrawal of Russian forces had been vetoed by Russia. The United States seeing that Russia now had it's own Viet Nam began to supply surface to air missiles to the Afghanis soldiers.

Mikhail Gorbachev took Russia out of the Afghanistan fiasco when he realized what many Russian leaders had been too scared to admit in public - that Russia could not win the war and the cost of maintaining such a vast force in Afghanistan was crippling Russia's already weak economy.

By the end of the 1980's, the Mujahidin was at war with itself in Afghanistan with hard line Taliban fighters taking a stronger grip over the whole nation and imposing very strict Muslim law on the Afghanistan population.

Contrary to popular myth, most of the mujahidin were not Islamic radicals, but rather a group of loosely allied Afghan tribes. Two main portions of the mujahidin, however, were Islamic fundamentalists.

Barak Karmal was unable to consolidate his power and in 1986 he was replaced by Dr. Mohammad Najibullah. He left Afghanistan for Moscow, where he died in 1996.

http://www.guidetorussia.com/russia-afghanistan.asp

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   0:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#2)

You two realize that the Taliban were founded in 1994, right?

What was the exact date?

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   0:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mininggold (#7)

What was the exact date?

No one knows.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-26   2:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#2) (Edited)

You know that you're tagline is a lie.

In the mid-18th century, a Boston lawyer defended several British soldiers for firing into a group of people who were throwin rocks and snowballs at them.

He got them acquited.

He then became the second POTUS.

The Taliban took over in the mid 90's. They most certainlyh existed long before...had a network long before...and were trying to establish a political lbase long before.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   7:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

Later, when Clinton tried to capture Bin Laden

Horseshit, Clinton did no such thing.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-26   9:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#2)

You two realize that the Taliban were founded in 1994, right?

But don't let something like a fact stop you from telling a good lie.

Notice the lies are so outrageously and demonstrably false they aren't worth responding to.

Riiight, Reagan supported the Taliban...(eyes rolling)

This is just an example of desiring to change the topic from TODAY, and how badly the nation is suffering under the foolish bullshit of Barack Hussein Owe- bama.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-26   9:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

The Taliban was a local group who sprang up in the Pashtu region of Afghanistan in 96 as a reaction against the lawlessness of the warlords who were dividing Afghanistan.

Better:

The Taliban was created by the ISI with CIA approval.

The term 'Sprang Up' the Give away.

Same as Khmer Rouge 'sprang up'.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-08-26   10:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#9)

he Taliban took over in the mid 90's. They most certainlyh existed long before...had a network long before...and were trying to establish a political lbase long before.

The Taliban grew out of ONE of the seven main groups we used to call Mujihadeen.

The Taliban took over Afghanistan in 1996. That fucking Reagan just stood there in 1996 and did nothing to prevent it!!!! I mean What was Reagan doing in 1996 while the Taliban took over Afghanistan? Was his bruising the tonsils of some White House intern? Fucking Reagan and the intern!

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-26   10:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#13)

The Taliban took over Afghanistan in 1996.

If they were so small how could they?

Your logic breaks down at every turn.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   10:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#14)

If they were so small how could they?

Your logic breaks down at every turn.

1. Who said they were small?

2. They did it with the help of Pakistan's ISI.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-26   11:28:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#15)

Who said they were small?

1/7 is large?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   11:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#16)

1/7 is large?

Having a problem keeping up with events from the 1980s and 1990s?

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-26   15:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#1)

The more that the history of the US and the globe progresses the more it reveals that Reagan was on the wrong side of it.

Motherfucker, you lefties can out-lie anyone.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-26   17:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#18)

I'd laugh at you if it weren't for the sad fact that you find 4000 lives lost for bullshit acceptable knowing that it was "only" 3000 who had died on 9/11.

You will never ever live that one down.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   19:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike (#0) (Edited)

The Afghan freedom fighters turned out to be the Taliban!

We funded them.

Americans are generally clueless about the word around them.

I've been in 26 countries. I've been in several countries 10 or 20 or more times each.

The people in some countries THINK differently than we do. Ross Perot said it best in 92 -- the combatants will go in some tent, come out with an answer, and we'll have no idea at all what it means.

When I read BS from both the left and right about the rest of the world, it makes me crazy.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   19:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: jwpegler (#20)

The Afghan freedom fighters turned out to be the Taliban!

Which Mujaheddin turned out to be the Taliban?

When did the Taliban form?

Did we fund the Taliban?

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-26   22:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#19)

I'd laugh at you if it weren't for the sad fact that you find 4000 lives lost for bullshit acceptable knowing that it was "only" 3000 who had died on 9/11.

You will never ever live that one down.

Cheap, dirt cheap.

Unlike the Democratic Wars which kill ten's of thousands.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-26   22:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#21)

Which Mujaheddin turned out to be the Taliban?

Most of them. In fact, almost all of them.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   22:26:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: jwpegler (#23)

Most of them. In fact, almost all of them.

Right. Okay. Whatever.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-26   23:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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