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Title: Miller on verge of toppling Murkowski
Source: ADN.com
URL Source: http://www.adn.com/2010/08/24/14234 ... -holds-slim-lead-in-early.html
Published: Aug 25, 2010
Author: SEAN COCKERHAM and KYLE HOPKINS
Post Date: 2010-08-25 17:48:59 by Mad Dog
Keywords: queen crypto-demonRAT, bitch slapped, DOWN
Views: 129484
Comments: 202

U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski is battling for her political life this morning against Republican primary challenger Joe Miller, the tea party-backed candidate who has a slim lead as ballots continue to be counted.

Miller, a Fairbanks attorney, led from when the first returns came in Tuesday night and was on the verge of pulling off one of the biggest election upsets ever in Alaska.

With 429 of 438 precincts counted this morning,, Miller had 45,909 votes (51 percent) to 43,949 (49 percent) for Murkowski.

Miller credited the support of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for his lead.

"I'm absolutely certain that was pivotal," he said.

Murkowski on Tuesday night took a shot at Palin, saying that when Palin resigned as governor last summer she said she would use her new national role to help out Alaska.

"I think she's out for her own self-interest. I don't think she's out for Alaska's interest," Murkowski said as she waited at her campaign headquarters for results to come in.

Miller made a triumphant entrance to election central at the Egan Center in downtown Anchorage on Tuesday night, surrounded by loudly cheering supporters with red-white-and- blue balloons.

"We did it!" one shouted.

Murkowski didn't come to election central, the traditional celebratory venue for Alaska candidates. She stayed in her campaign headquarters in Midtown Anchorage to watch the returns come in.

Her campaign spokesman, Steve Wackowski, was holding out hope that she would benefit from support in rural and coastal areas of the state that hadn't yet reported.

"We knew the race was going to be tight. The rural areas have yet to come in and we know Sen. Murkowski is going to be very strong in the rural areas."

Most of the remaining precincts are in rural areas, where paper ballots are counted by hand.

The final results of the race won't be known for over a week. The Alaska Division of Elections said over 16,000 absentee ballots were requested and as of Monday night 7,600 had been returned. The first count of absentees will be next Tuesday and there will be two subsequent counts as the absentee votes trickle in on Sept. 3 and on Sept. 8.

The winner of the Murkowski-Miller race will face Democrat Scott McAdams in the November general election. McAdams, the mayor of Sitka, had a big lead in the Democratic primary for U.S. Senate Tuesday night against Frank Vondersaar and Jacob Seth Kern.

Palin and the Tea Party Express made a big push to convince Alaskans to dump Murkowski for Miller. Polls had shown Murkowski with a big lead just three weeks ago. But Miller supporters had thought it was narrowing and were expressing confidence earlier in the day Tuesday that they would be pulling off an upset.

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This was the first test of Palin's influence on Alaska politics since she resigned as governor last summer, and the first sign of how influential the Tea Party movement can be in shaping political races in this state. The race was being closely watched nationally as a sign of Palin and the Tea Party's strength, but also because Murkowski is one of the leading Republicans in the Senate.

There was a lot more going on in this race than the Tea Party and Palin, though. Anti-Palin Alaska Republicans were arguing that voters should hold their nose and vote for Miller in spite of the endorsement of the former governor. Elements of Alaska's right wing have always disliked Murkowski.

Murkowski's pro-choice stance is a particularly sore point, one that Miller supporters hammered her on.

Tuesday's primary election also included Ballot Measure 2, which would require parents to be notified before their teens age 17 and younger received an abortion. Miller said he thinks that brought out voters who supported him over Murkowski, even though she supported the ballot measure as well.

"The Prop. 2 supporters were our supporters, largely. ... Frankly I think the pro-life vote was important," Miller said on Tuesday night.

Murkowski was a moderate state legislator when she was appointed by her father, Frank Murkowski, in 2002 to the U.S. Senate seat he was giving up to become governor.

The theme of a royal dynasty was also a part of the Miller campaign against her.

Murkowski told voters that her seniority and position in the Senate is good for Alaska. She's a member of the powerful Appropriations Committee and the most senior Republican on the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. Murkowski described Ted Stevens as her Senate mentor. She was much a part of the huge outpouring of reverence for Stevens in Alaska after he died in a plane crash earlier this month.

Stevens made radio and television ads for Murkowski just about a week before his death. The Murkowski campaign had also planned print advertising featuring Stevens' support. But the planned ad campaign with Stevens never ran. The Murkowski campaign dropped it after Stevens's death.

"It was the respectful thing to do," Murkowski said.

Alaskans adored Stevens for his talent in delivering Congressional dollars to Alaska. Federal dollars play a huge role in driving the economy, especially in rural areas that have few jobs.

Miller was running on a platform that's never before been a winning strategy for an Alaskan running for Congress. He promised to help choke federal spending rather than deliver the dollars back home.

Miller said his message resonated with Alaska voters.

"I think that they see the entitlement state, the federal government, growing too large. They understand because they have to balance their checkbooks," Miller said.

The California-based Tea Party Express reported spending $600,000 on behalf of Miller with ads that labeled Murkowski a liberal who is prone to voting with the Democrats.

Voters were getting robocalls until the last minute from Palin, former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, and former Alaska Lt. Gov. Loren Leman, saying the country is in crisis and Miller is the man to straighten it out. Those calls were financed by Miller, who raised $180,000 for his campaign.

Miller leaned heavily on his resume: a West Point and Yale law school graduate who won a Bronze star in the first Gulf War and was a magistrate. He's currently an attorney in Fairbanks and had almost no statewide name recognition until Palin, whose husband is a friend of Miller's, got on board his candidacy and attracted the attention of the national Tea Party Express.

Murkowski criticized Miller's campaign tactics, including the use of robo-calls. "It doesn't feel like it was a campaign that was run by Alaskans," Murkowski said on Tuesday night.

Murkowski also spent heavily, sinking well over $1.4 million into the race. She ran ads touting her conservative bona fides and bashing the Obama administration. Murkowski called Miller a liar, saying his insistence that she didn't want to repeal the federal health care reform act ignored the fact she's participated in Congressional efforts to do so.

Long before the first ballot results appeared Tuesday, Miller stood at the corner of Northern Lights Boulevard and the Seward Highway, waving one of his campaign signs as a cacophony of horns blared around him.

The campaign and his message, he said, had been gaining sudden momentum lately. "I think it's going to surprise a lot of folks."

The Tea Party Express less than a month ago commissioned a poll by Dittman Research of Anchorage that found Murkowski with 61 percent of the vote, compared to 24 percent for Miller. The Tea Party group put out a new poll less than a week ago suggesting the race had tightened, but that Murkowski still led by 11 percentage points.

Dittman said Tuesday night that he was surprised that Miller was leading. He said he thought it would be close but that Murkowski had the edge.

Dittman said he thought the final advertising blitz by the Tea Party Express made the difference. He said the California based Tea Party group, which has had success in Lower 48 Republican primary races, made a huge difference in the Alaska race.

"Without the Tea Party we wouldn't even be talking about him," Dittman said.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Psssssst you libTURDS

THIS is just the START.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   17:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mad Dog (#0) (Edited)

EXCELLENT.....


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-25   17:50:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Mad Dog (#1)

Regardless of who prevails, the Republican primary is a sign of Palin's clout in her home state after she suffered a string of loses recently in endorsing other candidates nationally.

Then-Sen. Ted Stevens in 2008 went to bed one night in the lead and learned later he had lost his Senate seat of 40 years to Mark Begich. So I will wait to see what the count is after the several thousand absentee ballots have been counted to give it to Miller.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-25   17:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

LOL!

Spoken as the true messiah "king" obammy libTURD whore that we ALL KNOW you to be weasel girl.

Joe Miller isn't just a repukelican't he's a PRO LIFE CONSERVATIVE!

Get used to it you libTURD loser, THIS is just the start.

But I SO feel your pain weasel girl.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   18:17:28 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mad Dog (#4)

I'm curious, why do you throw out the pro life thing with me? Can you answer this? Bet you can't.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-25   18:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mad Dog (#4)

"we ALL KNOW you to be weasel girl."

You are the one who things female is a curse of a gender to belong to.

I would be just as happy to be female as I am male. Just as I wouldn't care in the least to be Black, Oriental, Mexican, or any other variety of human.

I am three quarters Irish and one quarter Puerto Rican, and look very White with blue eyes, unless I spend time in the sun without sun block. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-25   18:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mad Dog (#4)

"Joe Miller isn't just a repukelican't he's a PRO LIFE CONSERVATIVE!"

Suffice it to say, sweet cheeks, that he is running for the GOP nomination.

This is a point that might be bouncing around your rather empty and bucolic brain housing group; but I made no mention of this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-25   18:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

I am three quarters Irish

Like the Kennedy clan, a fookin embarrassment to Ireland and the U.S.!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-08-25   19:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ibluafartsky (#8)

Heh, That's nothing Buttgasski. My middle name is Joseph making me M. Joseph McCarthy if you look at my name that way.

I'm sure if I met Tail Gunner Joe, him and I would have little in common.

The Kennedys on the other hand I admire very much.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-25   19:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

The Kennedys on the other hand I admire very much.

Not surprising that YOU would admire drunk/druggie assholes.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-08-25   19:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

LOL!

Asks the dogmatic agenda driven libTURD whore.

Gee that's a real "mystery" isn't it weasel girl?

Who are you pretending to be today?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   20:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mad Dog (#1)

Lotsa votes to be counted, lotsa wiggle room.

Don't be surprised if the one party makes sure Murkowski returns to D.C.

It ain't who votes, it's who counts the votes.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   20:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

LOL!

Go ahead weasel girl, do what you libTURDS do, TRY to spin it into nonexistent misogyny.

When it's a direct reference to you being nothing but a LYING libTURD POS, and you know it "girlfriend"!

I don't give phuck what your, or anybody else's "race" or sex is LIAR.

What matters to me is what is wrapped up INSIDE of a person.

Things like honesty and honor and courage and loyalty are what matters to me.

And YOU weasel girl are a self admitted foul libTURD LIAR.

Your reasons for LYING don't matter.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   20:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

LOL!

Suffices to say MORON that only a demonRAT or a repukelican't can win national office.

As IF you give a phuck, as long as whoever of whatever party is a libTURD whore/tool/fool; just like YOU are.

IF he was a demonRAT who was a CONSTITUTIONAL PRO LIFE CONSERVATIVE I'd support him weasel girl.

That's what REALLY makes you libTURDS phucker isn't it weasel girl?

The FALSE political dichotomy of demonRAT vs repukelican't is being replaced with REALITY.

CONSERVATIVES vs libTURDs.

THIS is just the start weasel girl.

You creeps are REALLY going to need a new playbook.

But you are too stupid and arrogant to even do that.

LOL!

GOOD stuff!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   21:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

I would be just as happy to be female as I am male. Just as I wouldn't care in the least to be Black, Oriental, Mexican, or any other variety of human.

I am three quarters Irish and one quarter Puerto Rican, and look very White with blue eyes, unless I spend time in the sun without sun block. ;-D

You forgot to tell the nice people you're no taller than a mushroom stool.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-25   21:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jerk Hunt (#15)

You forgot to tell the nice people you're no taller than the average stool. Smell the same too.

war  posted on  2010-08-25   21:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Wood_Chopper (#12) (Edited)

This isn't whatever state that you stain with your fetid breath woody boy.

OUR system is not wide open to FRAUD.

OUR population is small enough we can monitor the vote closely.

OUR system requires ID before you vote.

The 7600 absentee votes still waiting to be counted are mostly from MILITARY members who despise Murkowski. Also of that 7600 ballots they estimate around 1500-2000 will NOT be republican primary ballots. So that leaves just 5600-6100 possible votes for her and Joe.

AND the only large district not counted so far is right here in the Mat-Su valley where Joe will win by at least 300-500 votes.

Murkowski needs to win 70-75% of the possible absentee votes for her to "win".

WE count the votes here woody boy.

It isn't set in stone, but it's looking good for Joe.

Not that you really give a d@mn about the truth, all you want to do is screw with me.

Which you cannot EVER do chump.

LOL!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   21:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#16)

Reduced to attempts at potty humor? Sad. You have nothing but a case of arrested development, which was actually a very good sitcom for anyone with a mildly sophisticated sense of humor.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-25   21:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Mad Dog (#17)

We'll see. We'll see.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   21:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Wood_Chopper (#19)

LOL!

No woody boy, WE'LL see, and YOU'LL watch.

It so figures that you would support that corrupt crypto-demonRAT b!tch Murkoswski.

Of course Joe Miller is a REAL PRO LIFE CONSTITUTIONAL conservative AND a West Point graduate who earned a bronze star with a V as a tank commander in Iraq.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   21:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

"You forgot to tell the nice people you're no taller than a mushroom stool."

Oh shit! There goes another good keyboard again....

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-25   21:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: ry fewJerk Hunt (#18)

Reduced to attempts at potty humor?

Reduced to sputtering because you lack the wit to retort?

You are a piece of shit, btw. Very few will argue against me. Especially given that everybody knows that you're married and is pretty sure that you cheat on your wife with a forum moderator.

war  posted on  2010-08-25   21:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Murron (#21)

Oh shit! There goes another good keyboard again....

You do know that they make plumbing devices for that now and that you don't HAVE to use your keyboard?

war  posted on  2010-08-25   21:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war, A K A Stone (#23)

"You do know that they make plumbing devices for that now and that you don't HAVE to use your keyboard?"

You, fred and this abu character just can't seem to sink low enough, and all of you are taking this place down with you...

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-25   22:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mad Dog (#20)

It so figures that you would support that corrupt crypto-demonRAT b!tch Murkoswski.

You are such an asshole.

I don't support her. I said don't be surprised if the one party insures she's re-elected.

No wonder people here see you as nothing more than a joke and a shill.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   22:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Mad Dog (#20)

AND a West Point graduate

ringknockers don't impress me for having a ring to knock.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   22:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Wood_Chopper (#25)

LOL!

What's the matter woody boy?

Don't you like being treated like you treat me?

Bummer.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   22:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#15)

And glad too. I'm quite content with being 5'6". Height is not strengh, nor is it indicative how well someone can do in a scrap.

I'm also very stocky, weighing 165-70, with a waistline of 31 inches. I don't drink, never smoked cigs, and am an exercise fanatic.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-25   22:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Wood_Chopper (#26)

LOL!

THAT's FUNNY woody boy!

We call Naval academy grads "ring knockers" also.

But my question remains.

"What's the matter woody boy?

Don't you like being treated like you treat me?"

Bummer.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   22:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mad Dog (#29)

What's the matter woody boy?

Don't you like being treated like you treat me?"

Bummer.

I don't claim any MiG kills, shill.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   22:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Wood_Chopper (#30)

LOL!

How could you woody boy?

YOU have never had sh!t to do with splashing ANY Migs have you?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   22:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Murron (#24)

Look at what you were laughing at and then point that moral finger at me again.

Thanks!!!

war  posted on  2010-08-25   22:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Mad Dog (#31)

LOL!

How could you woody boy?

YOU have never had sh!t to do with splashing ANY Migs have you?

Geeze you're a dunce.

Fuck off.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   22:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Wood_Chopper (#33)

LOL!

I'm alot of things woody boy, but "a dunce" is NOT one of them.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   23:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Mad Dog (#20)

Of course Joe Miller is a REAL PRO LIFE CONSTITUTIONAL conservative AND a West Point graduate who earned a bronze star with a V as a tank commander in Iraq.

Yeah, and McCain is a conservative.

If he truly is what you say he is, the one party will make sure the bitch wins.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   23:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Wood_Chopper (#35)

Sigh ...

No woody boy, McInsane is a uber RINO fraud bastard.

Joe Miller is a human POLITICIAN, get it woody boy? IF you are looking for "perfection" in any human, let alone a POLITICIAN, you are wasting your time.

IF you knew anything about Alaska you'd know that Joe Miller was a huge supporter of prop 2, that he supported it earnestly. His known record is PRO LIFE, he has like 7 or 8 kids woody boy.

And like I have already said a couple of times Alaska isn't floriduh or minne-soda.

We Alaskans aren't about to let those corrupt bastards steal this election from us. OUR election system is robust and secure. Not to mention that we are watching this VERY closely.

I understand your valid concerns.

BUT it ain't gonna happen.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   23:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Murron (#21)

No comment...at this moment.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-25   23:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Murron (#21)

What would you know about plumbing? LOLOL


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   0:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Mad Dog (#13)

"Things like honesty and honor and courage and loyalty are what matters to me."

Which is why your lies on your military record is so easy to spot, right?

Looking at what you said your age was there alone makes you too young to be a Naval aviator in that war. And your knowledge you should have as an aviation officer is non existent.

I was a helicopter CE in the U.S. Army and have a private pilot's ticket.

My Dad, Daniel Anthony McCarthy was a Naval aviator in the Pacific Theater in WW II.

So if you want to be forth coming with more then general B.S. that someone who was a naval officer on flight status, I am going to know if you are B.S.ing or not pretty damn easy.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   0:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Fred Mertz (#38)

"What would you know about plumbing?"

Probably she does know allot about plug-in plumbing, Fred. Give the lady some credit. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   0:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#39)

Yawn ...

WHAT "LIES" LIAR?

All you have are specious charges and slurs and LIES which are your speciality, and all that you are TRYING to do is to change the subject and slur me LIAR. EVERYTHING that I have ever said about my service is true, and I am beyond giving a rusty F what known admitted LIARS and libTURD whores/tools/FOOLs such as you say.

And you ignorant a$$wipe, when did I ever claim to be a brown shoe, you simpering MORON?

Am I supposed to go through it all again, for like the FOURTH time, for YOU LIAR?

You are a worthless LYING libTURD MORON.

ME a brown shoe!

LMAO!!!!!!!

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-26   0:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Mad Dog (#41)

Nobody cares about you.

Most people would like to see you acting sane.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   0:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Fred Mertz (#42)

"Most people would like to see you acting sane."

And how.

I am pleased though he is at el pee. Sally deserves all the uninformed and incompetent interlocutors she can get to go there.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   0:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#43)

She deserves what she gets.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   0:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Fred Mertz (#42)

Nobody cares about you.

Most people would like to see you acting sane.

It took the moniker "Mad Dog" for a reason. It's just the part it plays.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   2:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Mad Dog (#36)

OUR election system is robust and secure.

Fuck you.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-26   2:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Mad Dog (#36)

IF you are looking for "perfection" in any human, let alone a POLITICIAN, you are wasting your time.

Fuck you, shill.

Fuck you.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-26   2:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: was (#22)

You are a piece of shit

BAHAHA.....can't escape toilet language I see. Give that little grand daughter of yours another few years and you can explain poo poo to her :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   9:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Murron (#21)

You forgot to tell the nice people you're no taller than a mushroom stool."

Mikey is a tiny little communist and hard as I try, I can't help but prod him whenever possible.

Hope all is well with you and yours.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   9:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull (#48)

...and you can explain poo poo to her :P

Can you send a pic of yourself to make it easier?

Thanks...

war  posted on  2010-08-26   9:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: was (#50)

Can you send a pic of yourself to make it easier?

Easier yet would be to show her your typical lunch time sandwich.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   9:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull (#51)

Easier yet would be to show her your typical lunch time sandwich.

I eat soup or salad for lunch.

But what else is on your menu? One item missing is wit.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   9:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: was (#52)

I eat soup or salad for lunch.

It's common knowledge you toss the salad for lunch.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   9:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

Palin won again, and the uber liberals are going insane over it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-26   9:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Badeye (#54)

Is the Alaska race a done deal? That is huge for Palin.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   10:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

the Republican primary is a sign of Palin's clout in her home state after she suffered a string of loses

Rather than focusing on whether her candidate won or lost, focus on the support her candidate got before and after her endorsement, and you will see she hasn't suffered a string of losses at all.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-26   10:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

Is the Alaska race a done deal? That is huge for Palin.

The war mongering faction of the Republican party is certainly alive and well.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   10:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Ferret Mike (#3) (Edited)

Take a look at all of the endorsements this year from all of the potential GOP 2012 Presidential candidates. Palin's endorsements have the best record of success by far.

Palin is the only true outsider in the entire field. That has given her a better insight into what's really going on in the country today than Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Huckleberry could possibly have.

She's pretty much operating without a staff, handlers, advisors. It's basically her and her husband.

That doesn't mean she'll win the nomination. The brain dead GOP will still nominate Romney because it his "turn". When they do that, look for her to jump ship and run as an independent.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   10:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: jwpegler (#58)

Palin is the only true outsider in the entire field.

An ex Republican governor and former VP candidate is an outsider? lolol

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   10:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#45)

It took the moniker "Mad Dog" for a reason. It's just the part it plays.

I just received an email that a guy with the nickname Mad Dog passed away. He was 64 and awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor in Vietnam. He was an Army man. I'll post a snippet here:

David Charles Dolby

May 14, 1946(1946-05-14) – August 6, 2010 (aged 64)

Nickname

Mad Dog

Place of birth

Norristown, Pennsylvania

Place of death

Spirit Lake, Idaho

Allegiance

United States of America

Service/branch

United States Army

Rank

Sergeant

Unit

8th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division

Battles/wars

Vietnam War

Awards

Medal of Honor


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   10:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Fred Mertz (#60) (Edited)

Thanks and Welcome Home Mad Dog!!!!

war  posted on  2010-08-26   10:57:52 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#57)

The war mongering faction of the Republican party is certainly alive and well.

Are they the ones who just expanded the war in Afghanistan into Yemen, Somalia & Pakistan?

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   10:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#59)

It says he served 5 tours in Vietnam - I thought 3 tours was rare.

www.southcoasttoday.com/a...?url=/static/noscript.htm


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   11:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#63) (Edited)

DOLBY, DAVID CHARLES

Rank and organization. Sergeant (then Sp4c.), U.S. Army, Company B, 1st Battalion (Airborne), 8th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile). Place and date. Republic of Vietnam, 21 May 1966. Entered service at: Philadelphia, Pa. Born: 14 May 1946, Norristown, Pa. G.O. No.: 45, 20 October 1967.

Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty, when his platoon, while advancing tactically, suddenly came under intense fire from the enemy located on a ridge immediately to the front. Six members of the platoon were killed instantly and a number were wounded, including the platoon leader. Sgt. Dolby's every move brought fire from the enemy. However, aware that the platoon leader was critically wounded, and that the platoon was in a precarious situation, Sgt. Dolby moved the wounded men to safety and deployed the remainder of the platoon to engage the enemy. Subsequently, his dying platoon leader ordered Sgt. Dolby to withdraw the forward elements to rejoin the platoon.

Despite the continuing intense enemy fire and with utter disregard for his own safety, Sgt. Dolby positioned able-bodied men to cover the withdrawal of the forward elements, assisted the wounded to the new position, and he, alone, attacked enemy positions until his ammunition was expended. Replenishing his ammunition, he returned to the area of most intense action, single-handedly killed 3 enemy machine gunners and neutralized the enemy fire, thus enabling friendly elements on the flank to advance on the enemy redoubt. He defied the enemy fire to personally carry a seriously wounded soldier to safety where he could be treated and, returning to the forward area, he crawled through withering fire to within 50 meters of the enemy bunkers and threw smoke grenades to mark them for air strikes. Although repeatedly under fire at close range from enemy snipers and automatic weapons, Sgt. Dolby directed artillery fire on the enemy and succeeded in silencing several enemy weapons. He remained in his exposed location until his comrades had displaced to more secure positions. His actions of unsurpassed valor during 4 hours of intense combat were a source of inspiration to his entire company, contributed significantly to the success of the overall assault on the enemy position, and were directly responsible for saving the lives of a number of his fellow soldiers. Sgt. Dolby's heroism was in the highest tradition of the U.S. Army.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   11:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Are they the ones who just expanded the war in Afghanistan into Yemen, Somalia & Pakistan?

Okay by your rules I guess Vietnam was the Nixon/Republican war then. Since we invaded Cambodia on his watch.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#65)

Okay by your rules I guess Vietnam was the Nixon/Republican war then. Since we invaded Cambodia on his watch.

Can you limit your absurdity to the current decade please? The Vietnam war was a lie based on a red flag event; the USS Maddox wasn't attacked by N. Vietnam PT boats.

You seem uptight.

Perhaps a facial will relax you?

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   11:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: mininggold (#59)

An ex Republican governor and former VP candidate is an outsider?

Absolutely. She's not part of the D.C. establishment.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   11:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jerk Hunt (#66)

Perhaps a facial will relax you?

Does it work on forum moderators?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   11:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Jethro Tull (#66)

You seem uptight.

Perhaps a facial will relax you?

You always act so silly when your agenda is exposed. Historical accuracy is not your forte is it?

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: jwpegler (#67)

Absolutely. She's not part of the D.C. establishment.

LOLOL Why I have had posters here tell me she actually worked for the Feds just by being a state governor. And that would be qualification for her pres candidacy.

There's one trait her supporters have in common, the willingness to make up outlandish spins on her behalf.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#68)

Does it work on forum moderators?

I wouldn't know, but you could ask Fredo. He seems to abuse Stone with regularity.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   11:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#68)

Does it work on forum moderators?

He's probably so grizzled and wrinkled he would OD on the amount of botox needed to do the job.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mininggold (#69)

Historical accuracy is not your forte is it?

The last time you've been historically accurate is when you agreed California is actually a suburb of Mexico.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   11:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Jethro Tull (#73) (Edited)

The last time you've been historically accurate is when you agreed California is actually a suburb of Mexico.

Typical of Palin lover/war mongerers to spin and make up lies. You need to see your shrink about your sociopathic tendencies.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: mininggold (#74)

...and avoid answering the question.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   12:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mininggold (#74)

Typical of Palin lover/war mongerers to spin and make up lies.

Lies? You live in Mexico, darling.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   12:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Jethro Tull (#76)

Lies? You live in Mexico, darling.

You original statement is a lie, but what's new.... it's all you have.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   12:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: war (#75) (Edited)

...and avoid answering the question.

He worships politicians because they provide his bread and butter. Tricky Dicky would have most certainly been his favorite, with his wage and price controls and the other "conservative" values he imparted on the populace.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   12:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: was (#75)

What question? I mention Obama's war expansion and Ms Sot mumbles something about the S. Vietnamese invading Cambodia? Why stop at 1972? Lets tumble back to '41 and discuss how FDR ignored the intercepted Japanese dispatches in late November, thus allowing Pearl Harbor to be struck by "surprise."

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   12:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Jethro Tull (#79)

I mention Obama's war expansion

...the correct answer to your question was "Bush" anyway, doof. So right there you're off base.

But don't cry to me when your logic gets booted up in your face.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   12:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Jethro Tull (#71)

Aha...you'd be more the Pearl Necklace for the moderator type, eh?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   12:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: war (#80)

..the correct answer to your question was "Bush" anyway, doof. So right there you're off base.

But don't cry to me when your logic gets booted up in your face.

Maybe he really does believe Vietnam was Nixon's War.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   12:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: was (#81)

Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   12:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: mininggold (#82)

Maybe he really does believe Vietnam was Nixon's War.

Here ya' go doll face.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   12:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: jwpegler (#58)

Palin is the only true outsider in the entire field. That has given her a better insight into what's really going on in the country today than Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Huckleberry could possibly have.

"I admire John McCain,and I support him 100%".

Yup,sounds like she is pretty independent to me!

She's pretty much operating without a staff, handlers, advisors. It's basically her and her husband.

She has several political advisers that worked for Boy Jorge Bush. She didn't have them when she started,but she has them now.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   12:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Jethro Tull (#83)

Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??

I'm sorry...were you saying something?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   12:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

The war mongering faction of the Republican party is certainly alive and well.

Are they the ones who just expanded the war in Afghanistan into Yemen, Somalia & Pakistan?

Yes. They just have the "new and improved Bush!" as their leader.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   12:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: jwpegler (#58)

Palin is the only true outsider in the entire field.

In more ways than one.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   12:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: sneakypete (#87)

Yes. They just have the "new and improved Bush!" as their leader.

Why can't the core of rock heads see the obvious?

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   13:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Fred Mertz (#63)

It says he served 5 tours in Vietnam - I thought 3 tours was rare.

Three tours was rare,but I personally know people who spent 5 tours as infantrymen in VN.

MoH holder Franklin Miller (RIP) spent 5 and a half years running recon in VN.

MoH holder Robert Howard (RIP)spent 54 months in VN,and was put in for a MoH on THREE separate occasions.

A lot of people put in extensions to serve more than the standard 12 months (13 for Marines) in VN,but most of them that were in combat MOS's got wounded and medievaced long before they got 5 years in. Bob,for example was wounded more than 14 times. He started refusing Purple Hearts for any wound that didn't require hospitalization. He also refused at least one Arcom with V-Device and a couple of Bronze Stars with V-device that I know of. Not many people could get away with refusing awards. He could.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   13:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: war (#86)

I'm sorry...were you saying something?

Yes, you best keep your pants on when 'playing' with your g'daughter. Plain enough :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   13:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Jethro Tull (#91) (Edited)

Why wouldn't I do so?

Or are you projecting?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   13:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: mininggold (#82)

Maybe he really does believe Vietnam was Nixon's War.

I have argued with Dims my age and older who "remember" Nixon starting the war.

Some even "remember" him going to prison for breaking into the Watergate motel.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   13:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: A K A Stone (#91)

Yes, you best keep your pants on when 'playing' with your g'daughter. Plain enough :P

Jethro Tull posted on 2010-08-26 13:05:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

You banned me recently why again?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   13:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: sneakypete (#93)

I have argued with Dims my age and older who "remember" Nixon starting the war.

Viet Nam is LBJ's war...no ifs ands ior buts...

war  posted on  2010-08-26   13:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Jethro Tull (#89)

Why can't the core of rock heads see the obvious?

Because it is never easy to admit to yourself that you have been fooled.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   13:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: sneakypete (#93)

Nixon did in no way start the war. The 'new' Nixon got elected with a "secret plan to end the war" he didn't elaborate on in the election campaign as he hadn't come up with it yet.

Nixon gave us the Phoenix Program, Vietnamization - which was in response to the Tet offensive, a switch from primarily a ground war to a naval and air bombardment.

It was so successful, Saigon, now Ho Chi Minh City fell in 1975 a few years after we tip toed out of there in retreat proclaiming victory.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   13:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Jethro Tull (#91)

Yes, you best keep your pants on when 'playing' with your g'daughter. Plain enough :P

You know what? That is out of line regardless of who you are responding to or what their political views are unless they are NAMBLA members.

You owe him an apology for that one. Man up and do it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   13:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Ferret Mike, sneakypete (#97)

Nixon did in no way start the war.

I've long felt that had Nixon been elected in 1960, we'd have been in the RVN, in 1967 type force levels, by 1963.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   13:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: sneakypete (#98)

Thanks...I'm good...

war  posted on  2010-08-26   13:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: war (#99)

Yep. Citing Ike's Former Secretary of State John Foster Dulles' Domino Theory of communism, he would of had us in eveyr part of Indochina and beyond fighting had he been elected then.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   13:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: sneakypete (#98)

Mudboy does it too. They are both scum.

"Were you ever in the music or song writing business?" ... e_type_jagoff to Mudboy lol ..... AND ....... "But his decent into vile absurdity is still actually kind of sad and pitiful really" .... mad doggie

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-08-26   13:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Ferret Mike (#97)

Nixon did in no way start the war. The 'new' Nixon got elected with a "secret plan to end the war" he didn't elaborate on in the election campaign as he hadn't come up with it yet.

His plan was clearly to go after the enemy in their safe areas,because that is what he ended up doing.

He couldn't say this while running because the one thing the Dims that started the war couldn't afford to have happen was a strategy that would win it and make them look like the incompetent fools they were and are.

And that ain't even addressing the dedicated communist Dims that were horrified at the mere thought of a communist loss.

Nixon gave us the Phoenix Program,

I am pretty sure that was in place under LBJ.

Vietnamization - which was in response to the Tet offensive, a switch from primarily a ground war to a naval and air bombardment.

Wrong,once again. That was put forward by a Dim-controlled congress. Even then they tried to stop the naval and air bombardment.

It was so successful, Saigon, now Ho Chi Minh City fell in 1975 a few years after we tip toed out of there in retreat proclaiming victory.

Where the HELL did you "learn" this bizarre history,Ho Chi Minh High? Saigon got invaded and the South lost the war because the Dim-controlled congress cut off all funding and military aid to the SVN military,and they didn't even have the fuel or ammunition they needed to stop the Soviet-supported North.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   13:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: war (#99)

I've long felt that had Nixon been elected in 1960, we'd have been in the RVN, in 1967 type force levels, by 1963.

I don't think it would have gone that long.

If Barry Goldwater had been elected in 64,the north would have given up and the war would have been over by 1965 because he would have made it known to the North that he had no intention of fighting them to a draw,but defeating them and invading the north and removing them from power.

NOBODY EVER wins a war by planning from day one to fight to a draw and get the other side to agree to just stop fighting.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   13:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: war (#86)

I'm sorry...were you saying something?

He's showing more of those Palin approved family values.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   14:11:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: sneakypete, was (#98)

You know what? That is out of line regardless

No it isn't. Was & company have tabled personal innuendo.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   14:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: sneakypete (#98)

You owe him an apology for that one. Man up and do it.

You ain't talking to no man, it hides behind skirts. And can't take the heat when it's antics are shown the light of day.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   14:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Jethro Tull (#106)

No it isn't. Was & company have tabled personal innuendo.

More of your nasty lying. Why don't you go find someone to ban on your girlfriend's forum.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   14:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: mininggold (#107)

You ain't talking to no man, it hides behind skirts.

I banned you. I banned was. I banned Fredo. I banned BS.

Me hide?

Hell, that is the source of pride :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   14:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: mininggold, all (#108)

More of your nasty lying. Why don't you go find someone to ban on your girlfriend's forum.

Exhibit "A"

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   14:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jerk Hunt, A K A Stone (#110)

Exhibit "A"

Of what?

That discussing a general belief that there is evidence that your cheating on your wife with a forum moderator may have led to you threatening physical harm to a poster there when that poster threatened to expose you gives you carte blanche to accuse me of wanting to molest my grand daughter?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   14:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: was (#111)

That discussing a general belief that there is evidence that your cheating on your wife with a forum moderator may have led to you threatening physical harm to a poster there when that poster threatened to expose you gives you carte blanche to accuse me of wanting to molest my grand daughter?

A general belief? AKA innuendo? IOW, not to be taken as fact? Gotcha professor :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   14:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: war (#111)

That discussing a general belief that there is evidence that your cheating on your wife with a forum moderator may have led to you threatening physical harm to a poster there when that poster threatened to expose you gives you carte blanche to accuse me of wanting to molest my grand daughter?

He's just trying to fit in with the rest of the Palin gang.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   14:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Jerk Hunt (#112)

You're babbling, Jerk.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   14:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: war, Jethro Tull, mininggold (#111)

Exhibit "A"

Of what?

No it isn't. Was & company have tabled personal innuendo.

mininggold: "More of your nasty lying. Why don't you go find someone to ban on your girlfriend's forum."

Personal innuendo's....

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-26   14:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: war (#114)

You're babbling, Jerk.

He's not used to being held responsible for his actions. It's his definition of a liberal actually.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   14:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Murron (#115)

Personal innuendo's....

Not innuendo silly... he admitted to it on this forum. Even said to the effect "at least it was a female".

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   14:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: war (#114)

You're babbling, Jerk.

No, just a dose of personal back at you LOLOL

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   14:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: mininggold (#117)

he admitted to it on this forum. Even said to the effect "at least it was a female".

Please, the tag...good lord is that dopey.

WTF are you talking about above?

Ask mommy to translate.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   14:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Jerk Hunt (#119) (Edited)

Dude...you need to take a few breaths...

It's obvious that you're drowning in anger here. And even though you are attempting to lash out with humor - in your defense, that's an issue you'd have when you're not angry - it's seriously affecting your ability to be coherent.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   14:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Murron (#115)

You're on the wrong side of this. He's accusing me of wanting to molest my grand daughter.

Now that you've been warned, proceed with caution.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   14:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: war (#120)

Dude? Are you a grandfather or a JHS kid? No anger here, just returning serve.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   14:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Jerk Hunt (#122)

JHS kid

I have no idea what that means.

I do know that you've accused me, for no other reason than to get even, of wanting to molest my grand daughter. And your incoherent responses to MG speak for themselves.

You're not going nuclear, Jerk, you're going stupid. Man up to what you'[ve done.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   14:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: war (#121)

#91

Yes, you best keep your pants on when 'playing' with your g'daughter. Plain enough :P

:P = Internet speak for teasing.

Can't take personal jibes, bubby?

Don't employ it.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   14:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: You know who you are, All (#104)

I believe there was some mention on another thread about some people refusing to discuss politics and doing nothing but starting flame wars in order to prevent anybody else from discussing politics.

Please excuse me for this rude interruption of your usual bitch fests. You may now return to your regularly scheduled hissy fits.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   15:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: war (#123)

Man up to what you'[ve done.

Pipe down, and stop posting from work :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   15:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Jethro Tull (#119)

Please, the tag...good lord is that dopey.

I love it. It's so YOU. And it's staying up until you apologize or I find an even better one that describes you.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   15:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: mininggold, was (#127)

By all means then, keep it. If it keeps you and Mommy happy, it's worth you looking dopey. I don't apologize to oversensitive metrosexuals for Internet jibes & jokes. As they say in Brooklyn, if you can't take it, don't dish it out :)

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   15:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Jethro Tull (#128)

By all means then, keep it. If it keeps you and Mommy happy, it's worth you looking dopey. I don't apologize to oversensitive metrosexuals for Internet jibes & jokes. As they say in Brooklyn, if you can't take it, don't dish it out :)

You protest too much, like a whiny little baby.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   15:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Jethro Tull (#126) (Edited)

Pipe down, and stop posting from work :P

I'll say whatever I want and from wherever.

You do nothing but lob your bombs of moral superiority when you're here, Jerk. Meanwhile, it's common knowledge that not only are you not morally superior but you can't take THE TRUTH o' TULL, which appears to be adultery manifesting into violent misogyney, when it rears up and uses your own teeth to bite you in the ass.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   15:25:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: mininggold (#129)

You protest too much, like a whiny little baby.

And you sound potted as per usual.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   15:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: war (#130)

You do nothing but lob your bombs of moral superiority when you're here, Jerk. Meanwhile, it's common knowledge that not only are you not morally superior but you can't take THE TRUTH o' TULL, which appears to be adultry (sp) manefesting (sp) into violent misogeny,(sp) when it rears up and uses your own teeth to bite you in the ass.

That's my boy, back to the vapid posting style, sans the personal innuendo.

This is good.

You're slow on the uptake, but you seem to know when you're on a two lane highway.

Spell check is your friend, or are you still pissed :)

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   15:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Jerk Hunt (#132)

Spell check is your friend, or are you still pissed :)

It's not my spelling which is fine. It's your subsequent editing.

But when spelling is the issue, you've lost.

But you know that.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   15:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: war (#133)

It's not my spelling which is fine. It's your subsequent editing.

Are you saying you spelled those words correctly & I edited them?

This is getting hilarious.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   15:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Jethro Tull (#131)

And you sound potted as per usual.

If you were a real cop you would know what 'potted' really looks like. Go back to your momma where you belong. She'll nurse your wounds and give you words of sympathy.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   15:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: mininggold (#135)

If you were a real cop you would know what 'potted' really looks like

I was real, baby doll, and you are a potted plant. Just accept it.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   15:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Jethro Tull (#134) (Edited)

Nope.

I'm saying that you jumped the gun. Wait an hour next time. When I see misspellings after I post I use the edit feature. I was editing as you were posting.

Again, it's your insane obsession that extends BEYOND you simply believing that you're better and smarter than everyone else. You have to try to PROVE the impossible that you are with your smug, pedantic style of responding.

Quite simply, you're an asshole. You can wrap your psyche in the warmest blanket of condescension that you can knit for yourself, Tull. At the end of every post, at the end of every day, it shall always be written as thus...

war  posted on  2010-08-26   15:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: sneakypete (#90)

Not many people could get away with refusing awards. He could.

That is quite unique. Thanks for the info petey.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   16:00:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: war (#137)

Nope.

I'm saying that you jumped the gun. Wait an hour next time. When I see misspellings after I post I use the edit feature. I was editing as you were posting.

Got it.

So you always post the comment *before* you proof read and edit.

That makes complete sense...he...hehehehe...LOLOLOLOL

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   16:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: mininggold (#108)

Why don't you go find someone to ban on your girlfriend's forum.

That is too funny! LOLOL


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   16:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Jethro Tull (#139)

So you always post the comment *before* you proof read and edit.

This is a prime example, asshole.

This is WHY there is an edit feature.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   16:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: sneakypete (#98)

You owe him an apology for that one. Man up and do it.

I agree with you petey. I don't expect it to happen, especially since you used the word 'Man'.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   16:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: war (#137)

Quite simply, you're an asshole.

True. He brags about people he's banned - without warning, timeout, nothing. Banned for life.

What an asshole he is. I don't know how Christine lets him get away with that shit.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   16:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: war (#121)

"Now that you've been warned, proceed with caution."

A foul mouth pig like you, warning me? Given enough rope, you will hang your own self...

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-26   16:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: war (#141)

This is WHY there is an edit feature.

I showed you what to edit.

You're welcome.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   16:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Fred Mertz (#143)

#80. To: Brian S (#75)

Thanks Brian S.

I'm not sure but I think I may be banned at 4um. It shows I'm logged in but I am authorized (0) posts per day. Maybe I'm on a timeout. Learning of your banning yesterday must have ticked me off; I was out of character with my profanity last night.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-11-17 13:26:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Fred, you admit to being an everyday drinker. Couple that with your gambling problem and double digit IQ, and unprovoked outbursts as you explain above happen. If you, or anyone else wants to be reinstated, just ask. I'll put you back. But take this to the bank; you can be one nasty drunk.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   16:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Jethro Tull (#146)

If you, or anyone else wants to be reinstated, just ask.

Fuck you, asshole.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   16:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Fred Mertz (#147)

Fuck you, asshole.

Well said, Fred.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   16:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: mininggold (#70)

Why I have had posters here tell me she actually worked for the Feds just by being a state governor. And that would be qualification for her pres candidacy.

I have no idea what you are asserting.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   16:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: sneakypete (#85) (Edited)

"I admire John McCain,and I support him 100%".

McCain propelled her into the national spotlight. Stabbing him in the back would have been a career limiting move. You don't stab people in the back in business either. In fact, the only place in life where you can get away with stabbing people in the back without consequence is on anonymous internet bullet boards, like this one.

You can absolutely operate on principal without burning bridges. In fact, true leaders do just that.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   17:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Jethro Tull (#145)

I showed you what to edit.

I already addressed this in 137.

Thanks but I've since had dinner and have moved on.

Your turn.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   19:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Murron (#144)

You were warned, Mamie. He's accusing me of wanting to molest my grand daughter.

Bozo me now or expect to be in tears later.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   20:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Fred Mertz (#143)

I don't know how Christine lets him get away with that shit.

He runs on Viagra not batteries...

war  posted on  2010-08-26   20:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: jwpegler (#150)

McCain propelled her into the national spotlight. Stabbing him in the back would have been a career limiting move.

She owed him nothing,since all he ever did was stab HER in the back after she became his running mate.

Or did you miss stuff like him saying on Letterman that she wasn't qualified to be a candidate in 2012?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   21:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: sneakypete (#154) (Edited)

She owed him nothing

She owed him everything for taking her out of the Alaskan backwater and making her a national figure.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   21:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: war (#94)

You banned me recently why again?

Because I told you to stop the trash talk and you told me to go to hell basically.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   22:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: war, Murron (#152)

Bozo me now or expect to be in tears later.

Hey dweeb, stop trying to make women cry and start acting like a man. It's probably too late, but it's worth a shot. Oh, and I seriously doubt you have any shot at getting Murron to stop speaking her piece. Freaking bully wannabe....

#80. To: Brian S (#75) Thanks Brian S.

I'm not sure but I think I may be banned at 4um. It shows I'm logged in but I am authorized (0) posts per day. Maybe I'm on a timeout. Learning of your banning yesterday must have ticked me off; I was out of character with my profanity last night.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-11-17 13:26:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   23:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Jethro Tull (#157)

Sher's not a forum moderator and you're going to have to fight Boofer for her.

war  posted on  2010-08-27   5:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: A K A Stone (#156)

What I told you was to moderate the board the way you moderate me.

But you know that.

war  posted on  2010-08-27   5:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: war (#158)

Boofer packs heat. Plus he's a combat pistol expert.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-27   7:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Fred Mertz (#160) (Edited)

Plus he's a combat pistol expert.

LEGENDARY...

war  posted on  2010-08-27   7:31:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Fred Mertz (#160)

He can shoot a frog at 20 paces.

"Were you ever in the music or song writing business?" ... e_type_jagoff to Mudboy lol ..... AND ....... "But his decent into vile absurdity is still actually kind of sad and pitiful really" .... mad doggie

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-08-27   8:06:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

Still some outstanding absentee votes to be counted. Even if Miller somehow loses by a hair, its still a win for Palin.

Murkowski should never have attacked Palin in the first place.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   8:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: A K A Stone (#156)

You banned me recently why again? Because I told you to stop the trash talk and you told me to go to hell basically.

(laughing)

You might as well ask the sun to stop rising each morning...as you are learning.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   8:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Fred Mertz (#160)

True. So?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   9:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Abu el Banat (#162)

ABBA! (laughing)

You add nothing to the site.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   9:01:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Badeye (#165)

I don't think it is very sporting to shoot defenseless, stationary frogs to death.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-27   9:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Fred Mertz (#167)

I don't think its very 'sporting' to abuse horses to provide compulsive gamblers a way to pass the time.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   9:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Badeye (#168)

They are bred to run; they love it.

BTW, I'll be heading to the track tomorrow. Wish me luck. Our colt was scheduled to run until he came down with a minor lung infection that's going around the barn. We'll point him for the last day of the meet - Labor Day.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-27   10:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: war (#152)

You were warned, Mamie. He's accusing me of wanting to molest my grand daughter. Bozo me now or expect to be in tears later.

eeewwww, I'm so shaking in my shoes, pee wee herman is going to make me cry? ROTFLMAO...you go girlfriend, crying, sniveling, moaning and bitching is your forte, not mine. The only tears in my eyes are from watching you hang yourself and laughing!

RebelGalwar

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-27   12:25:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Murron (#170) (Edited)

Please...you're legendery in your bipolar meltdowns...

Shall we visit a few on this slow Friday afternoon...or will you bozo me, Mamie, and then take me of in a day because you know everything I know about you is true?

war  posted on  2010-08-27   12:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Fred Mertz (#169)

Wish me luck.

good luck...

war  posted on  2010-08-27   12:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Fred Mertz (#169)

They are bred to run; they love it.

They don't know anything else, Freddie.

But good luck anyway.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   12:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Murron (#170)

He's the biggest joke within the political forum world at this point.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   12:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Badeye (#174)

He's the biggest joke within the political forum world at this point.

He has to be posting from some asylum, to think it's running loose and breeding is just down right scary....&;-)

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-27   12:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Murron (#175)

(chuckle)

This is the only forum that allows him to post that I'm aware of. The other one that reinstated him (pipeline news) is (or has) shut down.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   12:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Badeye (#174)

No, that would be you boof.

"Were you ever in the music or song writing business?" ... e_type_jagoff to Mudboy lol ..... AND ....... "But his decent into vile absurdity is still actually kind of sad and pitiful really" .... mad doggie

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-08-27   12:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Murron (#175) (Edited)

Let me help you and Boofer out...

war  posted on  2010-08-27   12:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: war (#178)

Will Boof be wearing his shoulder holster? I think Mammy Yokum would like that.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   12:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Abu el Banat (#177)

ABBA! Sorry asshole, but your just a punk that adds nothing to the site. Even your screen name is a joke.

West Wing went off the air years ago, dumbass. And it was not REAL.

Get a clue.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   13:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Skip Intro (#179)

Hey skippy, any more dumb remarks for the forums amusement from you?

Like how Bush defined Islam, perhaps?

rotfl.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   13:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Fred Mertz (#169) (Edited)

They are bred to run; they love it.

But stringing up a cow by it's hind legs and slitting it's throat while alive, aware and kicking to get it a kosher rating, would be a-okay with him.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-27   13:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: mininggold (#182)

But stringing up a cow by it's hind legs and slitting it's throat while alive and kicking to get it a kosher rating, would be a-okay with him.

Wrong again, ming...(laughing)

You demonstrate bigotry shown is at its root based in ignornance on a daily basis.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   13:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: Badeye (#183)

Wrong again, ming...(laughing)

You demonstrate bigotry shown is at its root based in ignornance on a daily basis.

BS LOLOLOLOLOLOL

You are the bigot and an Israel Firster to boot. The only problem you have with horseracing is that jews don't own the industry anymore.

And try to prove Zenyatta isn't the most pampered female on the planet.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-27   13:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Badeye (#180)

You're like some kind of retard who gloms on to some theme and won't let it go, 'you add nothing to the site, you add nothing ....' lol, go fuck yourself you retard. No one here adds anything and certainly not you who drain the energy out of anything you're involved with, ya fucking knob!

now say abba abba abba and (laughing) you stupid twat

West Wing went off the air years ago, dumbass. And it was not REAL.

Never saw the show.

"Were you ever in the music or song writing business?" ... e_type_jagoff to Mudboy lol ..... AND ....... "But his decent into vile absurdity is still actually kind of sad and pitiful really" .... mad doggie

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-08-27   13:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: mininggold (#184) (Edited)

You demonstrate bigotry shown is at its root based in ignornance on a daily basis.

You understood that "After 5 Crown Royals" babble?

war  posted on  2010-08-27   13:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Abu el Banat (#185)

Some people just can't their grasp around the metaphysical, Abu...

war  posted on  2010-08-27   13:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Badeye (#173)

They don't know anything else, Freddie.

You mean horses aren't rocket scientists? LOLOL

They tend to do what they are trained to do and the ones best suited both physically and mentally get to spread their genetics around. Oh gosh I can hear the Darwinism catcalls coming.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-27   14:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Badeye (#163)

Even if Miller somehow loses by a hair, its still a win for Palin.

I agree. If he had lost in a landslide she would have been ruined as a kingmaker. Him even coming close is a victory for her and saves her reputation as someone who is influential.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   14:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Badeye (#173)

They don't know anything else, Freddie.

That means they have a lot in common with Party People,but I still believe horses are smarter.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   14:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Wood_Chopper (#46)

Fuck you.

LOL!

You have me confused with freddy the faggot et. al. woody boy.

Real cogent "argument" FOOL.

LOL!

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-27   15:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Wood_Chopper (#47)

Fuck you, shill.

Fuck you.

LOL!

Again, woody boy, you need to see freddy faggot et. al. for that.

The "depth" of your "logic" and "argument" is "stunning".

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-27   15:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: mininggold (#184)

Wrong again, ming...(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   16:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Abu el Banat (#185)

You're like some kind of retard who gloms on to some theme and won't let it go,

The irony of this statement is delicious.

Bullshit, you took the absurd screen name from an episode.

Your mom liked my knob.

Have a shitty day, punk.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   16:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: sneakypete (#189)

Exactly. She had 11 wins the other night.

Contrast that to Owe-bama's track record (laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   16:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: sneakypete (#190)

So do I.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   16:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Badeye, mininggold (#183)

You demonstrate bigotry shown is at its root based in ignornance on a daily basis.

Does the skag ever post when she hasn't downed a fifth of gin?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-08-27   19:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Badeye (#195)

Exactly. She had 11 wins the other night.

It doesn't matter how many wins she had the other night. If she had lost the big one in her home state the media would have said she is a has-been.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   20:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Ibluafartsky (#197)

Doubt it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-29   11:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: sneakypete (#198)

Exactly. She had 11 wins the other night. It doesn't matter how many wins she had the other night.

No, the MSM would have proclaimed, just as they did a couple of months back 'Palin is yesterdays news politically'...even though it defies common sense.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-29   11:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Badeye (#194)

Don't get snippy with me, you useless dipshit, it's not my fault you modeled yourself after a cheesy 70's cop show detective causing everyone to laugh at you.

Go shoot some frogs and pretend they're people, asshole.

"Were you ever in the music or song writing business?" ... e_type_jagoff to Mudboy lol ..... AND ....... "But his decent into vile absurdity is still actually kind of sad and pitiful really" .... mad doggie

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-08-29   17:07:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Abu el Banat (#201)

ABBA! You're envy is amusing. Dontcha wish you accomplished something with your life worth a magazine article or five?

Like me, you pathetic loser?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-30   9:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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