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Title: Miller on verge of toppling Murkowski
Source: ADN.com
URL Source: http://www.adn.com/2010/08/24/14234 ... -holds-slim-lead-in-early.html
Published: Aug 25, 2010
Author: SEAN COCKERHAM and KYLE HOPKINS
Post Date: 2010-08-25 17:48:59 by Mad Dog
Keywords: queen crypto-demonRAT, bitch slapped, DOWN
Views: 129610
Comments: 202

U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski is battling for her political life this morning against Republican primary challenger Joe Miller, the tea party-backed candidate who has a slim lead as ballots continue to be counted.

Miller, a Fairbanks attorney, led from when the first returns came in Tuesday night and was on the verge of pulling off one of the biggest election upsets ever in Alaska.

With 429 of 438 precincts counted this morning,, Miller had 45,909 votes (51 percent) to 43,949 (49 percent) for Murkowski.

Miller credited the support of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for his lead.

"I'm absolutely certain that was pivotal," he said.

Murkowski on Tuesday night took a shot at Palin, saying that when Palin resigned as governor last summer she said she would use her new national role to help out Alaska.

"I think she's out for her own self-interest. I don't think she's out for Alaska's interest," Murkowski said as she waited at her campaign headquarters for results to come in.

Miller made a triumphant entrance to election central at the Egan Center in downtown Anchorage on Tuesday night, surrounded by loudly cheering supporters with red-white-and- blue balloons.

"We did it!" one shouted.

Murkowski didn't come to election central, the traditional celebratory venue for Alaska candidates. She stayed in her campaign headquarters in Midtown Anchorage to watch the returns come in.

Her campaign spokesman, Steve Wackowski, was holding out hope that she would benefit from support in rural and coastal areas of the state that hadn't yet reported.

"We knew the race was going to be tight. The rural areas have yet to come in and we know Sen. Murkowski is going to be very strong in the rural areas."

Most of the remaining precincts are in rural areas, where paper ballots are counted by hand.

The final results of the race won't be known for over a week. The Alaska Division of Elections said over 16,000 absentee ballots were requested and as of Monday night 7,600 had been returned. The first count of absentees will be next Tuesday and there will be two subsequent counts as the absentee votes trickle in on Sept. 3 and on Sept. 8.

The winner of the Murkowski-Miller race will face Democrat Scott McAdams in the November general election. McAdams, the mayor of Sitka, had a big lead in the Democratic primary for U.S. Senate Tuesday night against Frank Vondersaar and Jacob Seth Kern.

Palin and the Tea Party Express made a big push to convince Alaskans to dump Murkowski for Miller. Polls had shown Murkowski with a big lead just three weeks ago. But Miller supporters had thought it was narrowing and were expressing confidence earlier in the day Tuesday that they would be pulling off an upset.

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This was the first test of Palin's influence on Alaska politics since she resigned as governor last summer, and the first sign of how influential the Tea Party movement can be in shaping political races in this state. The race was being closely watched nationally as a sign of Palin and the Tea Party's strength, but also because Murkowski is one of the leading Republicans in the Senate.

There was a lot more going on in this race than the Tea Party and Palin, though. Anti-Palin Alaska Republicans were arguing that voters should hold their nose and vote for Miller in spite of the endorsement of the former governor. Elements of Alaska's right wing have always disliked Murkowski.

Murkowski's pro-choice stance is a particularly sore point, one that Miller supporters hammered her on.

Tuesday's primary election also included Ballot Measure 2, which would require parents to be notified before their teens age 17 and younger received an abortion. Miller said he thinks that brought out voters who supported him over Murkowski, even though she supported the ballot measure as well.

"The Prop. 2 supporters were our supporters, largely. ... Frankly I think the pro-life vote was important," Miller said on Tuesday night.

Murkowski was a moderate state legislator when she was appointed by her father, Frank Murkowski, in 2002 to the U.S. Senate seat he was giving up to become governor.

The theme of a royal dynasty was also a part of the Miller campaign against her.

Murkowski told voters that her seniority and position in the Senate is good for Alaska. She's a member of the powerful Appropriations Committee and the most senior Republican on the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. Murkowski described Ted Stevens as her Senate mentor. She was much a part of the huge outpouring of reverence for Stevens in Alaska after he died in a plane crash earlier this month.

Stevens made radio and television ads for Murkowski just about a week before his death. The Murkowski campaign had also planned print advertising featuring Stevens' support. But the planned ad campaign with Stevens never ran. The Murkowski campaign dropped it after Stevens's death.

"It was the respectful thing to do," Murkowski said.

Alaskans adored Stevens for his talent in delivering Congressional dollars to Alaska. Federal dollars play a huge role in driving the economy, especially in rural areas that have few jobs.

Miller was running on a platform that's never before been a winning strategy for an Alaskan running for Congress. He promised to help choke federal spending rather than deliver the dollars back home.

Miller said his message resonated with Alaska voters.

"I think that they see the entitlement state, the federal government, growing too large. They understand because they have to balance their checkbooks," Miller said.

The California-based Tea Party Express reported spending $600,000 on behalf of Miller with ads that labeled Murkowski a liberal who is prone to voting with the Democrats.

Voters were getting robocalls until the last minute from Palin, former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, and former Alaska Lt. Gov. Loren Leman, saying the country is in crisis and Miller is the man to straighten it out. Those calls were financed by Miller, who raised $180,000 for his campaign.

Miller leaned heavily on his resume: a West Point and Yale law school graduate who won a Bronze star in the first Gulf War and was a magistrate. He's currently an attorney in Fairbanks and had almost no statewide name recognition until Palin, whose husband is a friend of Miller's, got on board his candidacy and attracted the attention of the national Tea Party Express.

Murkowski criticized Miller's campaign tactics, including the use of robo-calls. "It doesn't feel like it was a campaign that was run by Alaskans," Murkowski said on Tuesday night.

Murkowski also spent heavily, sinking well over $1.4 million into the race. She ran ads touting her conservative bona fides and bashing the Obama administration. Murkowski called Miller a liar, saying his insistence that she didn't want to repeal the federal health care reform act ignored the fact she's participated in Congressional efforts to do so.

Long before the first ballot results appeared Tuesday, Miller stood at the corner of Northern Lights Boulevard and the Seward Highway, waving one of his campaign signs as a cacophony of horns blared around him.

The campaign and his message, he said, had been gaining sudden momentum lately. "I think it's going to surprise a lot of folks."

The Tea Party Express less than a month ago commissioned a poll by Dittman Research of Anchorage that found Murkowski with 61 percent of the vote, compared to 24 percent for Miller. The Tea Party group put out a new poll less than a week ago suggesting the race had tightened, but that Murkowski still led by 11 percentage points.

Dittman said Tuesday night that he was surprised that Miller was leading. He said he thought it would be close but that Murkowski had the edge.

Dittman said he thought the final advertising blitz by the Tea Party Express made the difference. He said the California based Tea Party group, which has had success in Lower 48 Republican primary races, made a huge difference in the Alaska race.

"Without the Tea Party we wouldn't even be talking about him," Dittman said.

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#32. To: Murron (#24)

Look at what you were laughing at and then point that moral finger at me again.

Thanks!!!

war  posted on  2010-08-25   22:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Mad Dog (#31)

LOL!

How could you woody boy?

YOU have never had sh!t to do with splashing ANY Migs have you?

Geeze you're a dunce.

Fuck off.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   22:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Wood_Chopper (#33)

LOL!

I'm alot of things woody boy, but "a dunce" is NOT one of them.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   23:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Mad Dog (#20)

Of course Joe Miller is a REAL PRO LIFE CONSTITUTIONAL conservative AND a West Point graduate who earned a bronze star with a V as a tank commander in Iraq.

Yeah, and McCain is a conservative.

If he truly is what you say he is, the one party will make sure the bitch wins.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-25   23:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Wood_Chopper (#35)

Sigh ...

No woody boy, McInsane is a uber RINO fraud bastard.

Joe Miller is a human POLITICIAN, get it woody boy? IF you are looking for "perfection" in any human, let alone a POLITICIAN, you are wasting your time.

IF you knew anything about Alaska you'd know that Joe Miller was a huge supporter of prop 2, that he supported it earnestly. His known record is PRO LIFE, he has like 7 or 8 kids woody boy.

And like I have already said a couple of times Alaska isn't floriduh or minne-soda.

We Alaskans aren't about to let those corrupt bastards steal this election from us. OUR election system is robust and secure. Not to mention that we are watching this VERY closely.

I understand your valid concerns.

BUT it ain't gonna happen.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-25   23:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Murron (#21)

No comment...at this moment.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-25   23:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Murron (#21)

What would you know about plumbing? LOLOL


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   0:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Mad Dog (#13)

"Things like honesty and honor and courage and loyalty are what matters to me."

Which is why your lies on your military record is so easy to spot, right?

Looking at what you said your age was there alone makes you too young to be a Naval aviator in that war. And your knowledge you should have as an aviation officer is non existent.

I was a helicopter CE in the U.S. Army and have a private pilot's ticket.

My Dad, Daniel Anthony McCarthy was a Naval aviator in the Pacific Theater in WW II.

So if you want to be forth coming with more then general B.S. that someone who was a naval officer on flight status, I am going to know if you are B.S.ing or not pretty damn easy.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   0:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Fred Mertz (#38)

"What would you know about plumbing?"

Probably she does know allot about plug-in plumbing, Fred. Give the lady some credit. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   0:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#39)

Yawn ...

WHAT "LIES" LIAR?

All you have are specious charges and slurs and LIES which are your speciality, and all that you are TRYING to do is to change the subject and slur me LIAR. EVERYTHING that I have ever said about my service is true, and I am beyond giving a rusty F what known admitted LIARS and libTURD whores/tools/FOOLs such as you say.

And you ignorant a$$wipe, when did I ever claim to be a brown shoe, you simpering MORON?

Am I supposed to go through it all again, for like the FOURTH time, for YOU LIAR?

You are a worthless LYING libTURD MORON.

ME a brown shoe!

LMAO!!!!!!!

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-26   0:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Mad Dog (#41)

Nobody cares about you.

Most people would like to see you acting sane.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   0:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Fred Mertz (#42)

"Most people would like to see you acting sane."

And how.

I am pleased though he is at el pee. Sally deserves all the uninformed and incompetent interlocutors she can get to go there.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-26   0:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#43)

She deserves what she gets.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   0:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Fred Mertz (#42)

Nobody cares about you.

Most people would like to see you acting sane.

It took the moniker "Mad Dog" for a reason. It's just the part it plays.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   2:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Mad Dog (#36)

OUR election system is robust and secure.

Fuck you.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-26   2:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Mad Dog (#36)

IF you are looking for "perfection" in any human, let alone a POLITICIAN, you are wasting your time.

Fuck you, shill.

Fuck you.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-08-26   2:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: was (#22)

You are a piece of shit

BAHAHA.....can't escape toilet language I see. Give that little grand daughter of yours another few years and you can explain poo poo to her :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   9:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Murron (#21)

You forgot to tell the nice people you're no taller than a mushroom stool."

Mikey is a tiny little communist and hard as I try, I can't help but prod him whenever possible.

Hope all is well with you and yours.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   9:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull (#48)

...and you can explain poo poo to her :P

Can you send a pic of yourself to make it easier?

Thanks...

war  posted on  2010-08-26   9:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: was (#50)

Can you send a pic of yourself to make it easier?

Easier yet would be to show her your typical lunch time sandwich.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   9:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull (#51)

Easier yet would be to show her your typical lunch time sandwich.

I eat soup or salad for lunch.

But what else is on your menu? One item missing is wit.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   9:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: was (#52)

I eat soup or salad for lunch.

It's common knowledge you toss the salad for lunch.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   9:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

Palin won again, and the uber liberals are going insane over it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-26   9:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Badeye (#54)

Is the Alaska race a done deal? That is huge for Palin.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   10:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

the Republican primary is a sign of Palin's clout in her home state after she suffered a string of loses

Rather than focusing on whether her candidate won or lost, focus on the support her candidate got before and after her endorsement, and you will see she hasn't suffered a string of losses at all.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-26   10:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

Is the Alaska race a done deal? That is huge for Palin.

The war mongering faction of the Republican party is certainly alive and well.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   10:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Ferret Mike (#3) (Edited)

Take a look at all of the endorsements this year from all of the potential GOP 2012 Presidential candidates. Palin's endorsements have the best record of success by far.

Palin is the only true outsider in the entire field. That has given her a better insight into what's really going on in the country today than Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Huckleberry could possibly have.

She's pretty much operating without a staff, handlers, advisors. It's basically her and her husband.

That doesn't mean she'll win the nomination. The brain dead GOP will still nominate Romney because it his "turn". When they do that, look for her to jump ship and run as an independent.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   10:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: jwpegler (#58)

Palin is the only true outsider in the entire field.

An ex Republican governor and former VP candidate is an outsider? lolol

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   10:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#45)

It took the moniker "Mad Dog" for a reason. It's just the part it plays.

I just received an email that a guy with the nickname Mad Dog passed away. He was 64 and awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor in Vietnam. He was an Army man. I'll post a snippet here:

David Charles Dolby

May 14, 1946(1946-05-14) – August 6, 2010 (aged 64)

Nickname

Mad Dog

Place of birth

Norristown, Pennsylvania

Place of death

Spirit Lake, Idaho

Allegiance

United States of America

Service/branch

United States Army

Rank

Sergeant

Unit

8th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division

Battles/wars

Vietnam War

Awards

Medal of Honor


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   10:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Fred Mertz (#60) (Edited)

Thanks and Welcome Home Mad Dog!!!!

war  posted on  2010-08-26   10:57:52 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#57)

The war mongering faction of the Republican party is certainly alive and well.

Are they the ones who just expanded the war in Afghanistan into Yemen, Somalia & Pakistan?

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   10:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#59)

It says he served 5 tours in Vietnam - I thought 3 tours was rare.

www.southcoasttoday.com/a...?url=/static/noscript.htm


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   11:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#63) (Edited)

DOLBY, DAVID CHARLES

Rank and organization. Sergeant (then Sp4c.), U.S. Army, Company B, 1st Battalion (Airborne), 8th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile). Place and date. Republic of Vietnam, 21 May 1966. Entered service at: Philadelphia, Pa. Born: 14 May 1946, Norristown, Pa. G.O. No.: 45, 20 October 1967.

Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty, when his platoon, while advancing tactically, suddenly came under intense fire from the enemy located on a ridge immediately to the front. Six members of the platoon were killed instantly and a number were wounded, including the platoon leader. Sgt. Dolby's every move brought fire from the enemy. However, aware that the platoon leader was critically wounded, and that the platoon was in a precarious situation, Sgt. Dolby moved the wounded men to safety and deployed the remainder of the platoon to engage the enemy. Subsequently, his dying platoon leader ordered Sgt. Dolby to withdraw the forward elements to rejoin the platoon.

Despite the continuing intense enemy fire and with utter disregard for his own safety, Sgt. Dolby positioned able-bodied men to cover the withdrawal of the forward elements, assisted the wounded to the new position, and he, alone, attacked enemy positions until his ammunition was expended. Replenishing his ammunition, he returned to the area of most intense action, single-handedly killed 3 enemy machine gunners and neutralized the enemy fire, thus enabling friendly elements on the flank to advance on the enemy redoubt. He defied the enemy fire to personally carry a seriously wounded soldier to safety where he could be treated and, returning to the forward area, he crawled through withering fire to within 50 meters of the enemy bunkers and threw smoke grenades to mark them for air strikes. Although repeatedly under fire at close range from enemy snipers and automatic weapons, Sgt. Dolby directed artillery fire on the enemy and succeeded in silencing several enemy weapons. He remained in his exposed location until his comrades had displaced to more secure positions. His actions of unsurpassed valor during 4 hours of intense combat were a source of inspiration to his entire company, contributed significantly to the success of the overall assault on the enemy position, and were directly responsible for saving the lives of a number of his fellow soldiers. Sgt. Dolby's heroism was in the highest tradition of the U.S. Army.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   11:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Are they the ones who just expanded the war in Afghanistan into Yemen, Somalia & Pakistan?

Okay by your rules I guess Vietnam was the Nixon/Republican war then. Since we invaded Cambodia on his watch.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#65)

Okay by your rules I guess Vietnam was the Nixon/Republican war then. Since we invaded Cambodia on his watch.

Can you limit your absurdity to the current decade please? The Vietnam war was a lie based on a red flag event; the USS Maddox wasn't attacked by N. Vietnam PT boats.

You seem uptight.

Perhaps a facial will relax you?

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   11:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: mininggold (#59)

An ex Republican governor and former VP candidate is an outsider?

Absolutely. She's not part of the D.C. establishment.


American public policy has been dominated by Democrats who don't care and Republicans that don't dare -- Dick Armey

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-26   11:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jerk Hunt (#66)

Perhaps a facial will relax you?

Does it work on forum moderators?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   11:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Jethro Tull (#66)

You seem uptight.

Perhaps a facial will relax you?

You always act so silly when your agenda is exposed. Historical accuracy is not your forte is it?

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: jwpegler (#67)

Absolutely. She's not part of the D.C. establishment.

LOLOL Why I have had posters here tell me she actually worked for the Feds just by being a state governor. And that would be qualification for her pres candidacy.

There's one trait her supporters have in common, the willingness to make up outlandish spins on her behalf.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#68)

Does it work on forum moderators?

I wouldn't know, but you could ask Fredo. He seems to abuse Stone with regularity.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

#19. Destro (#18) Wassup dude? Let's get this place rocking. - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   11:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#68)

Does it work on forum moderators?

He's probably so grizzled and wrinkled he would OD on the amount of botox needed to do the job.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-26   11:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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