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Title: 3rd Quarter GDP Likely Negative, Recession Never Ended
Source: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
URL Source: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
Published: Aug 23, 2010
Author: Mish Shedlock
Post Date: 2010-08-23 12:39:19 by Nebuchadnezzar
Keywords: None
Views: 3166
Comments: 3

3rd Quarter GDP Likely Negative, Recession Never Ended

While some people still think the odds of a double dip recession are close to zero, ironically, the only reason they may be right is if the first dip never ended.

Please consider last Friday's Breakfast With Dave, wherein Rosenberg stated U.S. RECESSION NEVER ENDED; GDP TO CONTRACT IN Q3

Our suspicions have been confirmed — the recession never ended. Macroeconomic Advisers produces a monthly U.S. real GDP series and it shows that the peak was in April, as we expected, with both May and June down 0.4% in the worst back-to-back performance since the economy was crying Uncle! back in the depths of despair in September-October 2008.

The quarterly data show that Q2 stands at a +1.1% annual rate (so look for a steep downward revision for last quarter) and the “build in” for Q3 is -1.5% at an annual rate. Depending on the data flow through the July-September period, it looks like we could see a -0.5% to -1% annualized pace for the current quarter. Most economists have cut their forecasts but are still in a +2.5% to +3.5% range. What is truly amazing is that despite all the fiscal, monetary, and bailout stimulus, the level of real economy activity, as per the M.A. monthly data, is still 2.5% below the prior peak. To put this fact into context, the entire peak to trough contraction in the 2001 recession was 1.3%! That is incredible.

Interestingly, and dovetailing nicely with our deflation theme, nominal GDP fell 0.3% in May and by 0.4% in June. This is a key reason why Treasury yields are melting.

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Summary of Obama's economic plan for the United States: EAT SHIT AND DIE.

Being a Democratic shill means you check your humanity at the door.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-23   12:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#0)

that the peak was in April, as we expected, with both May and June down 0.4%

There was a little blip of economic activity in Q2 as a result of people moving economic activity from 2011 to this year to avoid higher taxes. That seems to be over.

Mark my words, next year will be much worse than 2009. MUCH WORSE.

While Bush created this mess, Obama has made it significantly worse.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-23   12:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#2)

While Bush created this mess, Obama has made it significantly worse.

While Bush does deserve some blame, Frank and Dodd are the two who deserve the lion's share.

Being a Democratic shill means you check your humanity at the door.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-23   13:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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