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Title: Leaked White House Memo Advises Democrats on How to Spin Obamacare
Source: theweeklystandard.com
URL Source: http://www.theweeklystandard.com/bl ... s-democrats-how-spin-obamacare
Published: Aug 21, 2010
Author: BY Jeffrey H. Anderson
Post Date: 2010-08-21 16:09:23 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Obamacare, health care
Views: 97917
Comments: 135

Politico has released a piece that begins as follows: "Key White House allies are dramatically shifting their attempts to defend health care legislation, abandoning claims that it will reduce costs and deficit, and instead stressing a promise to 'improve it.'" This is a truly remarkable sentence. Legislation that the Congressional Budget Office says would cost about $2.5 trillion in its real first decade (2014 to 2023) wouldn't do the one thing that Americans most want out of health-care legislation: cut health care costs. It wouldn't, despite the administration's repeated claims to the contrary, cut deficits. But, on the bright side, it can (allegedly) be improved. That's an amazingly tepid claim to make on behalf of something with Obamacare's price tag.

The truth is that Obamacare cannot be improved. It can only be repealed. It was passed as "comprehensive legislation," and it must be repealed comprehensively.

The vast majority of Americans recognize this. Rasmussen's latest survey of likely voters shows Americans favoring repeal by the overwhelming tally of 60 to 36 percent. This 24-point margin is Rasmussen's 2nd-highest in the 21 polls it has conducted in the five months since passage, despite, as Politico puts it, "the White House's all-out communications effort" in the interim – much of it at taxpayer expense.

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#49. To: mininggold (#46)

There is a certain need to show the world that by accepting Jesus Christ the person has also accepted some of the basic standards Jesus expoused, or the word hypocrite comes to mind.

Jesus applied the term hypocrite to the Pharisees who - as you probably know - were the extremely religious and pious of His day.

They certainly had a "holier than thou" attitude, and saw themselves as perfect. They certainly didn't see themselves in need of a Savior.

Personally, I wouldn't use the term hypocrite to describe most "run-of-the-mill" Christians. As long as they realize that we are all sinners. We can strive for perfection, but we'll never achieve it (on this Earth, anyway.)

Yes, there ARE certainly hypocrites, and I'm sure we all have our favorite list

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Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-08-26   10:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: mininggold (#48)

All polls, on such a subjective topic do, is quantify statistics on the effectiveness of the media.

Actually, your statement can be applied to not only subjective topics, but all topics.

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Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-08-26   10:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ignore Amos (#45)

If he is, he does (by definition) come under the Lordship of Christ. So we're to leave it to Christ to make the final determination.

We're pretty much on the same page on this one.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-26   10:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Ignore Amos (#47)

IIRC, the polling data suggests that the number of people who doubt that Obama is a Christian has gone UP since he's been on the scene.

One would expect it to go down. I find that interesting.

Repeat a lie often enough...

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-26   11:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Ignore Amos, war (#32)

The larger point (to me) is this: Why, in a country of 300 million, are we reduced to selecting from such a shitty pool of candidates?

Because we live under a party system that would almost be the envy of Soviet Russia,and we did this to ourselves because too many of us insist on ALWAYS voting for the "Party Candidate" for a show of solidarity. Even if we wouldn't piss on him or her if they were on fire.

And make no mistake about it,this is nobody's fault but our (the collective "our",not necessarily you and I) fault.

We have this system if effect now where we have evolved to the point where the employees are the masters because we have allowed the professional political class to turn our system upside down to the point where all the political power now comes from the top down,instead of from the bottom up. When you lose the "bottom up" power you lose the influence of the people.

As I have been saying for a while now,it is not only conservatives like me getting screwed. The hard left are getting screwed by the Dim Party leaders just like the conservatives keep getting screwed by the Dim Lite Party leaders.

If we,the conservatives AND the left,want to go back to a representative system where WE are the masters and the politicians are our employees,we MUST start seizing control at the local levels and extend our power up.

The FACT is than not a single politician in DC is there without our permission.

You can't blame the party leadership for seizing all the power they can seize and pushing forward candidates that guarantee their positions and power.

The blame is ours for letting them get away with it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   12:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war (#33)

Okay...so all we need the wheel chair guy to do is recognize that I need a new roof and trust that he's going to hire the right guys to do the job. Put Bush in that wheelchair and now look at his crew...he had the same fucking morons around him that blundered into Iraq in the first place. He had the same group of guys that engineered to blow up of the S&L's.

And you are so freaking blind you can't see that Obama is Bush with a tan.

Barry Soetoro=Bush 4.0.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   12:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: sneakypete, war (#54)

And you are so freaking blind you can't see that Obama is Bush with a tan.

sneakypete... Race 24/7.

meguro  posted on  2010-08-26   12:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: meguro (#55)

sneakypete... Race 24/7.

meguro......partisan idiot 24/7.

Just to be clear,though. Are you accusing me of being a racist because I am saying Barry Soetoro is a white man with a tan?

Enquiring minds,and all dat.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-26   13:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: lucysmom (#40)

Thank you. I couldn't have illustrated my point better.

Don't be STUPID! Quit shilling for Obama. You can't watch this video and not come to the conclusion that Obama is a muslim.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   20:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#56)

Just to be clear,though. Are you accusing me of being a racist because I am saying Barry Soetoro is a white man with a tan?

I'm pointing out your obsession with race.

meguro  posted on  2010-08-26   20:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: lucysmom (#40)

Obama regularly calls the Koran the "holy Koran" No christian would do that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   20:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: lucysmom (#52)

Repeat a lie often enough...

So that is why you think Obama was born in Hawaii. Got ya.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   20:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: A K A Stone (#57) (Edited)

Surely you can't watch this video and not conclude that Snowmen can come to life.

And mine doesn't have some BS legal disclaimer. I'm telling you SNOWMEN COME TO LIFE!!!

war  posted on  2010-08-26   20:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: war (#61)

You posted your kids cartoon about 5 min after I posted a 10 min video as proof. You're a joke. Do you travel time too? Proves you don't look at the facts. Did you clear out your locker yet?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   20:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#62)

You posted your kids cartoon about 5 min after I posted a 10 min video as proof.

The only thing that video you posted could possibly prove is that you're a loon.

In other words, it's extrinsic.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   20:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#63)

You're afraid of the video and can't refute it. Checkmate again.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   20:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#64)

The video itself says it isn't proof of anything.

So, if anything, you're lying about what the video "proves" which makes it more likely to prove you a loon than Obama a Moslem.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   20:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#64)

BTW, thanks for once again displaying your hypocrisy by allowing Tull to accuse me of wanting to molest my own grand daughter stand without any action by you.

A true act of Christian Charity in your part to Tull. I'm overwhelmed by your example.

war  posted on  2010-08-26   20:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: was (#66)

:P

#80. To: Brian S (#75) Thanks Brian S.

I'm not sure but I think I may be banned at 4um. It shows I'm logged in but I am authorized (0) posts per day. Maybe I'm on a timeout. Learning of your banning yesterday must have ticked me off; I was out of character with my profanity last night.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-11-17 13:26:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   20:58:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#67)

When did you lose your hair?

war  posted on  2010-08-26   21:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Ignore Amos (#45)

That said - the way I try to live my Christianity is to accept it at face value when someone says about themself "I am a Christian."

Of course it is God who knows.

But when Jesus said he is the ONLY way and NOONE comes to God except through him.

And you have Obama calling the Koran "holy". It is a pretty gigantic clue.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   21:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: war (#66)

This is the first I've heard of it. I hope he isn't right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   21:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: A K A Stone (#70)

You're such a loser aka.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   22:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Fred Mertz (#71)

Ok. I don't think Jethro is right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-26   22:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#72)

Tull controls you. I don't get that.

On second thought they have a term for that.

I don't even know why he comes over here or why you participate at 4um, since they (tull) banned you not that long ago.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   22:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#72)

Ok. I don't think Jethro is right.

That's mighty white of you, Stone.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-26   22:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Fredo Mertz (#73)

I don't even know why he comes over here or why you participate at 4um, since they (tull) banned you not that long ago.

I doesn't take much to confuse you, Fredo.

#80. To: Brian S (#75) Thanks Brian S.

I'm not sure but I think I may be banned at 4um. It shows I'm logged in but I am authorized (0) posts per day. Maybe I'm on a timeout. Learning of your banning yesterday must have ticked me off; I was out of character with my profanity last night.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-11-17 13:26:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-26   22:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: A K A Stone (#72)

WRONG THREAD


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   22:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: WhiteSands (#0)

This Video Shows what Obamacare is REALLY going to be like: ;c)

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Coral Snake  posted on  2010-08-26   23:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#72)

aka loser, who posted my reply #72?

Like tull, you're an asshole.


"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-26   23:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Fred Mertz, Stone (#78)

aka loser, who posted my reply #72?

Like tull, you're an asshole.

Well said Fredo!

#80. To: Brian S (#75) Thanks Brian S.

I'm not sure but I think I may be banned at 4um. It shows I'm logged in but I am authorized (0) posts per day. Maybe I'm on a timeout. Learning of your banning yesterday must have ticked me off; I was out of character with my profanity last night.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-11-17 13:26:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-08-27   0:02:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Jethro Tull (#79) (Edited)

Well said Fredo!

And yet here you are the one spending most of the day stalking those you banned. What a great LE example you are, not to mention time waster. Surely your gal Palin will find a position for you in her cabinet, after you put 'internet chat sites stalker' on your resume.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-27   1:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: sneakypete, war (#54)

And you are so freaking blind you can't see that Obama is Bush with a tan.

meguro  posted on  2010-08-27   4:03:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: lucysmom (#43)

You really have no talent as a mind reader. I'd give it up if I were you.

That the other aspect of being a Liberal, you give up easily when confronted with fact.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   8:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: mininggold (#44)

And you see Christians as gullible, naive and easy to politically manipulate.

Wrong again, ming.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   9:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: A K A Stone (#57)

You can't watch this video and not come to the conclusion that Obama is a muslim.

I don't suppose its occurred to you that the tape was made pulling quotes and images out of context and over time to lead you by the nose to just that conclusion.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-27   10:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone (#59)

Obama regularly calls the Koran the "holy Koran" No christian would do that.

Why not?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-27   10:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: lucysmom (#84)

He knows.

war  posted on  2010-08-27   10:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: A K A Stone (#59) (Edited)

"Islam traces its origins back to God's call on Abraham. And Ramadan commemorates the revelation of God's word in the Holy Koran to the prophet Mohammad -- a word that is read and recited with special attention and reverence by Muslims during this season."

--George W. "Boy Blunder" Bush 12/10/2002.

war  posted on  2010-08-27   10:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#60)

So that is why you think Obama was born in Hawaii. Got ya.

If that's the quality of your thinking, why would I take seriously anything you assert?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-27   10:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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