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Title: Leaked White House Memo Advises Democrats on How to Spin Obamacare
Source: theweeklystandard.com
URL Source: http://www.theweeklystandard.com/bl ... s-democrats-how-spin-obamacare
Published: Aug 21, 2010
Author: BY Jeffrey H. Anderson
Post Date: 2010-08-21 16:09:23 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Obamacare, health care
Views: 99251
Comments: 135

Politico has released a piece that begins as follows: "Key White House allies are dramatically shifting their attempts to defend health care legislation, abandoning claims that it will reduce costs and deficit, and instead stressing a promise to 'improve it.'" This is a truly remarkable sentence. Legislation that the Congressional Budget Office says would cost about $2.5 trillion in its real first decade (2014 to 2023) wouldn't do the one thing that Americans most want out of health-care legislation: cut health care costs. It wouldn't, despite the administration's repeated claims to the contrary, cut deficits. But, on the bright side, it can (allegedly) be improved. That's an amazingly tepid claim to make on behalf of something with Obamacare's price tag.

The truth is that Obamacare cannot be improved. It can only be repealed. It was passed as "comprehensive legislation," and it must be repealed comprehensively.

The vast majority of Americans recognize this. Rasmussen's latest survey of likely voters shows Americans favoring repeal by the overwhelming tally of 60 to 36 percent. This 24-point margin is Rasmussen's 2nd-highest in the 21 polls it has conducted in the five months since passage, despite, as Politico puts it, "the White House's all-out communications effort" in the interim – much of it at taxpayer expense.

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#84. To: A K A Stone (#57)

You can't watch this video and not come to the conclusion that Obama is a muslim.

I don't suppose its occurred to you that the tape was made pulling quotes and images out of context and over time to lead you by the nose to just that conclusion.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-27   10:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone (#59)

Obama regularly calls the Koran the "holy Koran" No christian would do that.

Why not?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-27   10:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: lucysmom (#84)

He knows.

war  posted on  2010-08-27   10:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: A K A Stone (#59) (Edited)

"Islam traces its origins back to God's call on Abraham. And Ramadan commemorates the revelation of God's word in the Holy Koran to the prophet Mohammad -- a word that is read and recited with special attention and reverence by Muslims during this season."

--George W. "Boy Blunder" Bush 12/10/2002.

war  posted on  2010-08-27   10:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#60)

So that is why you think Obama was born in Hawaii. Got ya.

If that's the quality of your thinking, why would I take seriously anything you assert?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-27   10:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: war (#87)

It's funny how so many people have managed to forget George's position on Islam, just like they've managed to forget that TARP happened under his administration.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   11:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Skip Intro (#89)

Stone was more fun on bozo...

war  posted on  2010-08-27   11:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: A K A Stone (#69)

So, if someone yells "holy mackerel", does that mean they worship fish?

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-08-27   12:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Bartcoprules (#91)

So, if someone yells "holy mackerel", does that mean they worship fish?

Holy shit!!!

war  posted on  2010-08-27   12:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war (#92)

You worship fecal matter?

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-08-27   12:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Bartcoprules (#93) (Edited)

Holy 36DD's!!!!

war  posted on  2010-08-27   12:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Skip Intro (#89)

It's funny how so many people have managed to forget George's position on Islam

You mean this position?

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US Muslims bristle at Bush term "Islamic fascists"

By Amanda Beck

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Muslim groups criticized President George W. Bush on Thursday for calling a foiled plot to blow up airplanes part of a "war with Islamic fascists," saying the term could inflame anti-Muslim tensions.

U.S. officials have said the plot, thwarted by Britain, to blow up several aircraft over the Atlantic bore many of the hallmarks of al Qaeda.

"We believe this is an ill-advised term and we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism," said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations advocacy group.

"We ought to take advantage of these incidents to make sure that we do not start a religious war against Islam and Muslims," he told a news conference in Washington.

"We urge him (Bush) and we urge other public officials to restrain themselves."

Awad said U.S. officials should take the lead from their British counterparts who had steered clear of using what he considered inflammatory terms when they announced the arrest of more than 20 suspects in the reported plot.

Hours after the news broke, Bush said it was "a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation."

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-27   12:33:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: no gnu taxes (#95)

(laughing)

Skippy isn't the sharpest knife in the LF drawer....

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   12:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Skip Intro (#89)

It's funny how so many people have managed to forget George's position on Islam, just like they've managed to forget that TARP happened under his administration.

Except he described our opponents as 'Islamofacists' and you clowns went nuts, remember, skippy?

(roaring with laughter)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   12:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Badeye (#96)

He's another one of those clowns who professes to be "an independent thinker" yet toes the Democrat Party line all the way.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-27   12:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: war (#92)

LOL!

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-27   12:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: no gnu taxes (#95)

Eric, Bush went out of his way to praise Islam, many, many times. The term "Islamic Fascists" refers to a tiny subset of Islam, not Islam itself.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   13:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: no gnu taxes (#98)

He's another one of those clowns who professes to be "an independent thinker" yet toes the Democrat Party line all the way

A full decade, and he's NEVER found a postive thing related to anyone or anything from the GOP...excluding the Spector types of course, that jumped ship.

He's a well known quantity, and its laughable he dares to even suggest 'independent thought'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-27   13:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Skip Intro (#100)

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog

I just noticed your quote...wasn't Puppy a Poopy? Did US warships get strafed a lot back then...other than by Israel I mean....?

war  posted on  2010-08-27   13:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Skip Intro (#100)

Not every one out there who considers himself a Muslim is familiar enough with the basics of their religion to realize what murdering thugs they are supposed to be. Why would Bush or any statesman want to got out of their way to denigrate these people?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-27   13:21:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: no gnu taxes (#103)

Not every one out there who considers himself a Muslim is familiar enough with the basics of their religion to realize what murdering thugs they are supposed to be.

You ever read the Old Testament? You should be shaking in your boots that there are Jews walking around freely.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   13:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Skip Intro (#100)

Eric, Bush went out of his way to praise Islam, many, many times. The term "Islamic Fascists" refers to a tiny subset of Islam, not Islam itself.

I believe it was a term made up by Limpbaugh too.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-27   13:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: war (#102)

I just noticed your quote...wasn't Puppy a Poopy? Did US warships get strafed a lot back then...other than by Israel I mean....?

I think Popeye single-handedly "splashed" three Migs by throwing spinach cans at them.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   13:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: mininggold (#105)

I believe it was a term made up by Limpbaugh too.

It came from the Fox "News"/Savage Weiner/Limbaugh think tank.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   13:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Skip Intro (#107) (Edited)

It came from the Fox "News"/Savage Weiner/Limbaugh think tank.

As soon as I posted it Savage came to mind along with his constant bragging rights.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-27   13:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Skip Intro (#106)

I think Popeye single-handedly "splashed" three Migs by throwing spinach cans at them.

Aha...

And we spend how much on REAL ordinance? Seems to be a waste when we can simply grow our own...

war  posted on  2010-08-27   13:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Skip Intro (#104)

You ever read the Old Testament?

You ever read the New Testament?

The Jews waged war with those who would destroy their Nation with Godless beliefs and practices. That certainly would not include modern Christians.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-27   13:36:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: no gnu taxes (#110)

You ever read the New Testament?

I've read the entire book of superstition and fiction. How anyone could take this crap seriously is beyond me.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   13:37:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: no gnu taxes (#110) (Edited)

The Jews waged war with those who would destroy their Nation with Godless beliefs and practices.

You're claming that New Testament Jews waged war with Rome?

Here's a clue for you. Two other groups separately ruled Palestine longer than the Jews ever did.

war  posted on  2010-08-27   13:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: war (#102)

I just noticed your quote...wasn't Puppy a Poopy? Did US warships get strafed a lot back then...other than by Israel I mean....?

A friend who was on an AE until late 1969 told me the only time they were strafed was once by our own planes, and were almost hit by one that ditched close by while they were doing a transfer to another ship.

"Look you leftist pervert, make sure you keep your Mr Winky away from your family's new addition or I will send some fellow salad tossers to square away your sorry butt. Got it??"

Jethro Tull explaining what goes on in the Palin family household.

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-27   13:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: meguro (#81)

Meguro,racist 24/7,and always blaming it on the white guy.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   14:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: war (#112)

You're claming that New Testament Jews waged war with Rome?

Several times

Two other groups separately ruled Palestine longer than the Jews ever did.

What does that have to do with the White House resident being a Kenyan dumbass?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-27   14:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Skip Intro (#89)

It's funny how so many people have managed to forget George's position on Islam,

Well,when it comes to Muslims,I suspect his position is the doggie,instead of the Missionary.

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"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   14:25:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: no gnu taxes (#110)

You ever read the New Testament?

You mean the edited Word of Gawd because Gawd screwed up the original version of his word?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   14:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Skip Intro (#111)

How anyone could take this crap seriously is beyond me.

4 words. "The Fear of God". Small children are programed to live in fear of a loving God that will torture them for all eternity for getting a boner.

It's hard to overcome the programming you receive as a child.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   14:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: sneakypete (#118)

The Fear of God

..is the beginning of all wisdom.

Which would explain a lot of the dumbasses around here.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-08-27   15:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: sneakypete (#117)

You ever read the New Testament?

You mean the edited Word of Gawd because Gawd screwed up the original version of his word?

Realistically, the NT is actually primarily the Word of Paul, a guy who never met Jesus.

An objective view of all of this would indicate that God 1 screwed things up so much that he got his ass fired and replaced with God 2. Being the vicious SOB that he is, God 1 then reappeared as Allah, as mean and vindictive as ever.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   16:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: no gnu taxes (#119)

..is the beginning of all wisdom.

Which would explain a lot of the dumbasses around here.

And why you don't have any wisdom at all.

"How many confirmed NV Mig kills do YOU have general? I only have three." - Mad Dog, the village idiot's hemorrhoid.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-27   16:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: no gnu taxes (#119)

The Fear of God

..is the beginning of all wisdom.

Which would explain a lot of the dumbasses around here.

Or at least explain why so many of them think they are wise.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   20:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Skip Intro (#120)

An objective view of all of this would indicate that God 1 screwed things up so much that he got his ass fired and replaced with God 2

Yup. The cult leaders thought they would come up with something more user friendly to attract people and money.

Being the vicious SOB that he is, God 1 then reappeared as Allah, as mean and vindictive as ever.

You may just be onto something,there.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-08-27   20:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: sneakypete, Skip Intro (#123)

“The two Testaments are interesting, each in its own way. The Old one gives us a picture of these people’s Deity as he was before he got religion, the other one gives us a picture of him as he appeared afterward” Mark Twain

lucysmom  posted on  2010-08-27   20:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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