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Title: Saudi judge considers paralysis punishment
Source: AP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_saudi_justice
Published: Aug 19, 2010
Author: SALAH NASRAWI Associated Press Writer Sa
Post Date: 2010-08-19 20:55:37 by A K A Stone
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Views: 13050
Comments: 44

CAIRO – A Saudi judge has asked several hospitals in the country whether they could damage a man's spinal cord as punishment after he was convicted of attacking another man with a cleaver and paralyzing him, the brother of the victim said Thursday.

Abdul-Aziz al-Mutairi, 22, was left paralyzed and subsequently lost a foot after a fight more than two years ago. He asked a judge in northwestern Tabuk province to impose an equivalent punishment on his attacker under Islamic law, his brother Khaled al-Mutairi told The Associated Press by telephone from there.

He said one of the hospitals, located in Tabuk, responded that it is possible to damage the spinal cord, but it added that the operation would have to be done at another more specialized facility. Saudi newspapers reported that a second hospital in the capital Riyadh declined, saying it could not inflict such harm.

Administrative offices of two of the hospitals and the court in Tabuk were closed for the Saudi weekend beginning Thursday and could not be reached for comment.

A copy of the medical report from the King Khaled Hospital in Tabuk province obtained by the AP said the same injury al-Mutairi suffers from can be inflicted on his attacker using a nerve stimulant, and inducing the same injuries in the same locations. The report was dated six months ago.

Saudi Arabia enforces strict Islamic law and occasionally doles out punishments based on the ancient legal code of an eye-for-an-eye. However, King Abdullah has been trying to clamp down on extremist ideology, including unauthorized clerics issuing odd religious decrees.

The query by the court, among the most unusual and extreme to have been made public in the kingdom, highlights the delicate attempt in Saudi Arabia to balance a push to modernize the country with interpretations of religious traditions that critics say are out of sync with a modern society.

The Saudi newspaper Okaz identified the judge as Saoud bin Suleiman al-Youssef.

The brother said the judge asked at least two hospitals for a medical opinion on whether surgeons could render the attacker's spinal cord nonfunctional. He and Saudi newspaper reports did not identify the attacker

Khaled al-Mutairi, 27, said the assailant was sentenced to 14 months in prison for the attack that paralyzed his younger brother, but he was released after seven months in an amnesty. He said the attacker then got a job as a school teacher .

"We are asking for our legal right under Islamic law," the brother said. "There is no better word than God's word — an eye for an eye."

A Saudi newspaper Okaz reported that a leading hospital in Riyadh — King Faisal Specialist Hospital — responded that it could not do the operation. It quoted a letter from the hospital saying "inflicting such harm is not possible," apparently refusing on ethical grounds.

Islamic law applied in Saudi Arabia allows defendants to ask for a similar punishment for harms inflicted on them. Cutting off the hands of thieves, for example, is common.

Under the law, the victim can receive a blood money to settle the case.

Khaled al-Mutairi said his family is not interested in blood money, and would be ready to send the attacker abroad to perform the operation if it were not possible in the kingdom.

Human rights group say trials in Saudi Arabia fall far below international standards. They usually take place behind closed doors and without adequate legal representation.

Those who are sentenced to death are often not informed of the progress of legal proceedings against them or of the date of execution until the morning on which they are taken out and beheaded.

Crucifying the headless body in a public place is a way to set an example, according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.

Amnesty International expressed concerns over the reports and said the rights group was contacting Saudi authorities for details.

"We are very concerned and we will appeal to the authorities not to carry out such a punishment," said Lamri Chirouf, the group's researcher on Saudi Arabia. Such measures are against international conventions against torture and international standards on human rights.

Chirouf said this was the first time Amnesty had heard of a punishment involving the damaging of a spinal cord.

"But it's hard to follow details of the Saudi justice system. People are sentenced in closed trials with no access to the public and no lawyers," he said.

According to Amnesty, in 2005, a convict in the kingdom had his teeth pulled out by a dentist because he had smashed another man's teeth out in a fight.

"We have also had cases of people sentenced to blindness because they have caused the blindness of another person," Chirouf said. "But never anything involving a spinal cord."

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Typical Muslim response.

Obama's a Muslim also.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-19   21:14:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#1)

Typical Muslim response

Sounds like just an 'eye for an eye'. Isn't that in the Christian bible too?

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-21   12:26:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mininggold (#2)

Sounds like just an 'eye for an eye'. Isn't that in the Christian bible too?

It sure is. Take a look at the required punishments in Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

Since, as Stone says, the bible is 100% the word of god, we should be applying these punishments as god intended.

I'm sure that once the Evangeliban takes power in the US, we will.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-08-21   12:47:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Skip Intro (#3)

Since, as Stone says, the bible is 100% the word of god...

He and Goldi are two nutcase moderators. At least aka loser is a more tolerant one wrt bannings.

Maybe he could institute that shunning thing here.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-21   12:54:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#4) (Edited)

At least aka loser is a more tolerant one wrt bannings.

I've been looking at the nearby hills for over forty years yet I see little evidence of them either growing or reducing in size except when someone decides to bulldoze them into submission. Wouldn't you think if the earth was so young we would still be seeing massive changes occurring over our own lifetimes?

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-21   14:41:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mininggold (#6)

Wouldn't you think if the earth was so young we would still be seeing massive changes occurring over our own lifetimes?

After church today I stopped by my pal's place for coffee and BS. On TV he had the Travel Channel on and they were doing a feature on the Grand Canyon. 'Nuff said...but a k a loser came to mind nevertheless.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-22   16:58:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

Fred the Grand Canyon is proof of the flood. If you had a clue you would research it.

How far are you from Cinci? If you would like I will buy you a ticket to the creation museum and you can maybe learn something. How about it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-22   17:20:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)

I'm about 2 hours and 20 minutes from Cincy. I've got plenty of spare time on my hands, so I might take you up on it. Also, one of my college buddies lives in the greater Cincy area. Thanks for the offer.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-22   17:23:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Fred Mertz (#18)

It is not in cinci but I think about 30 min or so from there. I've never been.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-22   17:29:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#19)

The museum was originally marketed as the Creation Museum and Family Discovery Center.[16] It opened in late Spring of 2007 as the "Creation Museum". The museum is located north-northeast of Petersburg, Kentucky, roughly 12 miles (19 km) from the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport on 49 acres (20 ha) of land; the Answers in Genesis main offices are attached to the museum.[17][18] The facility's stated mission is to "exalt Jesus Christ as Creator, Redeemer and Sustainer", to "equip Christians to better evangelize the lost", and to "challenge visitors to receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_museum

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-22   17:42:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

Yeah that's it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-08-22   17:43:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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