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Title: Obama under fire over support for mosque near Ground Zero- After a barrage of criticism, president appears to backtrack, saying: 'I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there'
Source: guardian.co.uk
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201 ... bama-under-fire-mosque-support
Published: Aug 14, 2010
Author: Paul Harris
Post Date: 2010-08-14 22:52:09 by WhiteSands
Keywords: obama, muslim
Views: 58676
Comments: 98

obama has come under attack from American conservatives for supporting plans to build a mosque two blocks from the site of one of the terror attacks of 11 September 2001. The proposal for a mosque and community centre near the site of the World Trade Centre has attracted a large opposition movement in a fierce argument over religious freedom.

At a White House dinner marking Ramadan, Obama said: "As a citizen, and as president, I believe Muslims have the same right to practise their religion as anyone else in this country. That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community centre on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable."

But New York Republican congressman Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker, condemned the proposed mosque and the president's comments. He said the mosque would be a symbol of Muslim "triumphalism" and that building it near the site of the 9/11 attacks "would be like putting a Nazi sign next to the Holocaust museum".

Obama appeared last night to retreat from his remarks. "I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there," he told reporters while visiting the Gulf Coast. "I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding. That's what our country is about."

The fierce debate over the mosque has dominated newspaper debates in New York for several months and gradually spread nationwide. Opponents of the mosque number many conservatives, including leaders of the Tea Party movement and the former Alaska governor, Sarah Palin, and also relatives of the victims of 9/11 and a Jewish civil rights group, the Anti-Defamation League. Meanwhile one of the most vocal supporters of the mosque is a former star of the Republican party, the New York mayor Michael Bloomberg.

The developer behind the mosque welcomed Obama's support. "We are deeply moved and tremendously grateful for our president's words," Sharif el-Gamal told the New York Times. Subscribe to *Flotilla Party*

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#59. To: Mad Dog (#58)

A bark with no bite. As if the world listens to you try to bait and takes this seriously.

Again, thanks for sharing ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-16   19:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Ferret Mike (#59)
(Edited)

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Weasel boy the admitted LIAR and FRAUD talking his usual drivel!!

Me thinks thou doth protest too much weasel boy.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-16   19:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Mad Dog (#60)

Me thinks I say you say nothing but if someone to the left of you says something, it's a lie.

With suce a broad brush attack, you aren't even making the grade as a decent fuckwit, which is what they call people like you on USENET.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-16   20:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ferret Mike (#61)

LOL! Weasel boy you are one weak-assed FRAUD.

YOU have admitted to using multiple posting names/handles and PRETENDING to be a female weasel boy!

THAT'S called LYING weasel boy, your reasons don't matter.

Without ANY doubt I could find LIES that you made while you were LYING about who and what you are weasel boy. But why would I waste the effort? You are already an admitted LIAR and FRAUD weasel boy. No further proof is required.

What's the matter weasel boy? did dem nasty 'ol repukelican't and de ebil BOOSH MAKE you LIE?

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-16   21:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Mad Dog (#62) (Edited)

Oh yeah, like you have a leg to stand on with this. Speaking of lies, what is your past or current handle at el pee?

I've also ripped music, programs and movies from limewire and Vuze like millions of others.

You are hilarious, pig boy. You don't even sound like your contrived spin has your panties in a knot.

As far as your claim I pretended to be female, ever seen me nekked? Maybe I only look like a guy in pictures I have shared with others in forum.

Maybe there's a butch dyke in me dying to get out. And for all I know you are Elizabeth Taylor in this forum being a little too frisky for her own good.

You are a loser who has thin experience in online forums. But hey, thanks for the entertainment, I am deeply amused.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-17   1:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Ferret Mike (#63)

YAWN ...

LOL! Weasel boy you are one weak-assed FRAUD.

YOU have admitted to using multiple posting names/handles and PRETENDING to be a female weasel boy!

THAT'S called LYING weasel boy, your reasons don't matter.

Without ANY doubt I could find LIES that you made while you were LYING about who and what you are weasel boy. But why would I waste the effort? You are already an admitted LIAR and FRAUD weasel boy. No further proof is required.

What's the matter weasel boy? did dem nasty 'ol repukelican't and de ebil BOOSH MAKE you LIE?

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-17   2:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Mad Dog (#64) (Edited)

I also tear the 'illegal to remove' tags off mattresses and pillows.

Spoof Internet forum accounts isn't all I do now. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-17   22:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Ferret Mike (#65)

YAWN ...

LOL! Weasel boy you are one weak-assed FRAUD.

YOU have admitted to using multiple posting names/handles and PRETENDING to be a female weasel boy!

THAT'S called LYING weasel boy, your reasons don't matter.

Without ANY doubt I could find LIES that you made while you were LYING about who and what you are weasel boy. But why would I waste the effort? You are already an admitted LIAR and FRAUD weasel boy. No further proof is required.

What's the matter weasel boy? did dem nasty 'ol repukelican't and de ebil BOOSH MAKE you LIE?

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-17   22:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Mad Dog (#66)

Nice spam post you've worked up. Now the real trick is to make one that effects anything. Cheers ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-18   1:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Ferret Mike (#67)

YAWN ...

LOL! Weasel boy you are one weak-assed FRAUD.

YOU have admitted to using multiple posting names/handles and PRETENDING to be a female weasel boy!

THAT'S called LYING weasel boy, your reasons don't matter.

Without ANY doubt I could find LIES that you made while you were LYING about who and what you are weasel boy. But why would I waste the effort? You are already an admitted LIAR and FRAUD weasel boy. No further proof is required.

What's the matter weasel boy? did dem nasty 'ol repukelican't and de ebil BOOSH MAKE you LIE?

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-18   14:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Mad Dog (#68) (Edited)

You keep spamming the same Byelsin type ramble. Is this now a pissing contest to see who posts last?

You make it plain you aren't here to discuss anything or debate the issues.

I really don't even believe your crocodile tears about someone with an anon account name in any given forum.

The fact everyone else usually is anon and unknown means you would have to be really insane to believe this is above a tail chaser of an issue.

Think of something fun to fight about dude. You're just boring, know that?

I'm disappointed in you. I had heard you could do better.

Not from what I've seen.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-18   19:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ferret Mike (#69)

LOL!

Hey you LYING a$$wipe.

The discussion was about you being a LIAR.

YOU admitted to LYING.

Therefore WE ALL know that you are a LIAR.

No further "discussion is required LIAR.

Case closed.

So SQUIRM.

Rationalize.

Make ALL the "excuses" that you want to LIAR, they don't change a F ing thing.

Your "opinion" means nothing to me weasel boy. You are just another LYING libTURD.

Phuck off LIAR.

So .... I say AGAIN,

----------------

"YAWN ...

LOL! Weasel boy you are one weak-assed FRAUD.

YOU have admitted to using multiple posting names/handles and PRETENDING to be a female weasel boy!

THAT'S called LYING weasel boy, your reasons don't matter.

Without ANY doubt I could find LIES that you made while you were LYING about who and what you are weasel boy. But why would I waste the effort? You are already an admitted LIAR and FRAUD weasel boy. No further proof is required.

What's the matter weasel boy? did dem nasty 'ol repukelican't and de ebil BOOSH MAKE you LIE?"

----------------

What's the matter weasel boy, don't you like being treated in the same way that you libTURD filth treat everyone else?

Too F ing bad.

The "Alinsky" cuts both ways you libTURD filth.

You libTURD filth will never again get any more slack than you give to others you sniveling b!tch.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-18   22:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Mad Dog (#68)

Ferret served in Panama.

He is not a jerk off.

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-08-18   22:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Mad Dog (#70)

Yawn!

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-19   1:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: WhiteSands (#71)

Don't worry; the day I take wankers like this serious, Santa will marry the Easter rabbit.

This is what you see when someone separately wants to bring heat, and has nothing with which to do so.

I find him very amusing, or I wouldn't stop in occasionally to watch the stupid human pet tricks he does. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-19   1:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: WhiteSands (#71)

I didn't call him a "jerk off".

I called him what he is, a LIAR.

He's an admitted LIAR NOW.

I don't CARE where weasel boy served.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-19   1:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Ferret Mike (#72)

YAWN ...

"Hey you LYING a$$wipe.

The discussion was about you being a LIAR.

YOU admitted to LYING.

Therefore WE ALL know that you are a LIAR.

No further "discussion is required LIAR.

Case closed.

So SQUIRM.

Rationalize.

Make ALL the "excuses" that you want to LIAR, they don't change a F ing thing.

Your "opinion" means nothing to me weasel boy. You are just another LYING libTURD.

Phuck off LIAR.

So .... I say AGAIN,

----------------

"YAWN ...

LOL! Weasel boy you are one weak-assed FRAUD.

YOU have admitted to using multiple posting names/handles and PRETENDING to be a female weasel boy!

THAT'S called LYING weasel boy, your reasons don't matter.

Without ANY doubt I could find LIES that you made while you were LYING about who and what you are weasel boy. But why would I waste the effort? You are already an admitted LIAR and FRAUD weasel boy. No further proof is required.

What's the matter weasel boy? did dem nasty 'ol repukelican't and de ebil BOOSH MAKE you LIE?"

----------------

What's the matter weasel boy, don't you like being treated in the same way that you libTURD filth treat everyone else?

Too F ing bad.

The "Alinsky" cuts both ways you libTURD filth.

You libTURD filth will never again get any more slack than you give to others you sniveling b!tch."

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-19   1:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Mad Dog (#75)

Heh, Actually, you need ammunition to put people on the defensive. Your game here is to accuse with no point to it to get me to scramble to try to argue meaningless points.

Doesn't work like that, Fido. I've posted in political forums a long time.

Too long to be manipulated by amateurs as thin intellectually as you.

But, thanks for the unintended entertainment you give me anyway. I am highly amused.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-19   10:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Ferret Mike (#76)

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

SQUIRM you LYING libTURD c^nt, SQUIRM.

HOW am I trying to "manipulate you? you LYING c^nt?

And weasel boy I'd set my intelligence and ability for rational and logical thought against yours ANYTIME you foul LYING libTURD c^nt.

YOU are an ADMITTED LIAR.

End of story b!tch.

"Hey you LYING a$$wipe.

The discussion was about you being a LIAR.

YOU admitted to LYING.

Therefore WE ALL know that you are a LIAR.

No further "discussion is required LIAR.

Case closed.

So SQUIRM.

Rationalize.

Make ALL the "excuses" that you want to LIAR, they don't change a F ing thing.

Your "opinion" means nothing to me weasel boy. You are just another LYING libTURD.

Phuck off LIAR.

So .... I say AGAIN,

----------------

"YAWN ...

LOL! Weasel boy you are one weak-assed FRAUD.

YOU have admitted to using multiple posting names/handles and PRETENDING to be a female weasel boy!

THAT'S called LYING weasel boy, your reasons don't matter.

Without ANY doubt I could find LIES that you made while you were LYING about who and what you are weasel boy. But why would I waste the effort? You are already an admitted LIAR and FRAUD weasel boy. No further proof is required.

What's the matter weasel boy? did dem nasty 'ol repukelican't and de ebil BOOSH MAKE you LIE?"

----------------

What's the matter weasel boy, don't you like being treated in the same way that you libTURD filth treat everyone else?

Too F ing bad.

The "Alinsky" cuts both ways you libTURD filth.

You libTURD filth will never again get any more slack than you give to others you sniveling LYING libTURD b!tch."

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-19   12:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Mad Dog (#77)

Actually, your hard to read posts in this thread are generally incomprehensible scroll by material.

First, I am liberal as you note, and a feminist; so gender is no big thing to me. Men, women, they are equal in worth. I have no superiority complex about being a man.

As for your silly lie talk; these are forums with generally anon posters. I see no lies involved anywhere remotely in even the most general interpretation of your blather.

You are projecting nonsense if you postulate I squirm. I, like many was unfairly banned by Goldie, and I spent time with her and Neal - when he was moderator there - talking about forum security and how to minimize disruption.

And when I went in in Cornflake Girl, I spent what time I was there talking to Sneaky Pete and others I had missed seeing.

So, as I was not disruptive, you spout nonsense.

This is more then I need say to you on this, as you are just baiting anyway.

But I will go ahead and give you this one benefit of doubt post. Which no doubt will turn out to be a waste of time. Cheers. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-19   23:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Ferret Mike (#78)

Mad puppy compiles his replies and then cuts and pastes them to the forum.

Something Son of Sam might do.

"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Jethro Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-19   23:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Ferret Mike (#78)

LOL!

Oh I totally agree Montag, it was more than "silly" for YOU to admit that YOU are a LIAR.

But now it's empirical isn't it?

Yep.

Serenity, Montag. Peace, Montag.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-20   0:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Fred Mertz (#79)

LOL!

"Sucking hind tit" as usual eh faggot?

Did your mother have any children that lived?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-20   0:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Mad Dog (#80)

The most consistent think about my posting is I can be cutting and as intense as the best of folks. But generally, even people like you don't anger nor upset me.

So you are wasting your time trying to get a rise out of me.

Feel free to keep trying, but getting upset is something I save for real life situations that warrant it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-20   17:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Our man child POTUS fucked up again.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-20   17:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Badeye (#83)

Democrats vs Republicans: The false paradigm of American politics
What paradigm? That is the type of response one would receive from the average voter in the United States today. It reflects the clandestine ignorance of the majority of the populace today. So the question becomes, why does the population continue to believe in the so called, left-right paradigm?

People continue to believe in fallacies like the left-right paradigm because they are inclined for some reason- to make decisions based on their feelings, rather than objective logic or rational thought unfortunately.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-08-20   19:08:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Fred Mertz (#79)

Son brought a case of IC Lite to the beach...but I'm drinking Pabst.

war  posted on  2010-08-20   19:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Capitalist Eric (#84)

LOL

Islam's symbols: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

Murron  posted on  2010-08-20   19:22:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: All (#85)

Hey Fred...you know what's pretty fucking funny? reading a thread on which you have half the participants on bozo and the other third have YOU on bozo...

war  posted on  2010-08-20   19:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: war (#87)

That PBR must be rotting your brain. I don't think I have anyone on my bozo list.

I even replied to e_jagoff a few minutes ago.

"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Jethro Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-20   22:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Fred Mertz (#88)

That PBR must be rotting your brain.

I can only hope.

Vacation is over...go in peace...

war  posted on  2010-08-21   8:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: war (#89)

Was it fun?

I head to New Orleans at the end of September. I'll call it my vacation. I've never been there.

"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Jethro Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-21   8:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Fred Mertz (#90)

I had a great time New Years Eve there.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-21   10:54:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Badeye (#91)

Like I said, I've never been there but I'm looking forward to visiting and sightseeing New Orleans.

"Lets [sic] rent a room." ~ Jethro Tull to Rotara

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-08-21   10:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Fred Mertz (#90)

A laugh a minute as usual...saw the grandkids...slept...ate...drank...oogled and made my wife happy...

war  posted on  2010-08-21   16:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Ferret Mike (#82)

"Serenity, Montag. Peace, Montag."

YAWN ...

The "alinsky" cuts BOTH ways doesn't it weasel boy?

What's the matter you little c^nt? Don't you like being treated like you treat others?

Too bad. Phuck you, and ALL of your libTURD ilk..

"Serenity, Montag. Peace, Montag."

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-21   17:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Mad Dog (#94)

Ah, so it is a pissing contest to see who posts last.

Surely you don't infer I am being treated some way I don't like. This exchange has not bothered me.

People generally make themselves unhappy needlessly if they let an anonymous poster on any board they are on get their goat.

I have not been reading your posts as I go to the Smirking Chimp, DU, the KOS and sometimes 4UM.

So, with no basis to know who you are, you have no leverage then as someone I don't know entertaining me with a big bad wolf from the three little pigs story doing a "I'll huff and I'll puuff..." routine.

So, how are you treating me? Why wouldn't I like it? How is it like I treat others?

Can you articulate anything besides pissing contest grade spam posts? Amaze me and show you can. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-21   19:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Ferret Mike (#95)

"Interesting."

Is it Montag?

Is it really?

I thought it was about you being an admitted LIAR, and your desperate and futile attempts to change the subject, and deny that THAT FACT matters Montag.

What sort of insane person would ever surmise that an anonymous poster could cause another anonymous poster any actual distress or angst Montag?

My ONLY purpose here is to make sure that the simple TRUTH about YOU stands against your craven LIES.

Well THAT, and conducting an object lesson, (for whom ever), in how "the alinsky" cuts BOTH ways, you simpering libTURD phuckwad.

I SO await validation from you Montag. /S

CONTRADICTION is NOT argument Montag.

"Peace Montag, Serenity Montag."

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-21   23:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Mad Dog (#96)

Still wallowing in bull shit I see.

And it still makes no point, and still has an effective range of 0.0 meters.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-08-22   0:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Ferret Mike (#97)

"Serenity Montag, Peace Montag. "

"Serenity Montag, Peace Montag. "

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-08-22   1:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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