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Title: GOP plan to extend tax cuts for rich adds $36 billion to deficit, panel finds
Source: The Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 010/08/11/AR2010081105864.html
Published: Aug 12, 2010
Author: Lori Montgomery
Post Date: 2010-08-14 09:53:34 by lucysmom
Keywords: Tax, Deficit, Economy
Views: 66140
Comments: 89

A Republican plan to extend tax cuts for the rich would add more than $36 billion to the federal deficit next year -- and transfer the bulk of that cash into the pockets of the nation's millionaires, according to a congressional analysis released Wednesday.

New data from the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation show that households earning more than $1 million a year would reap nearly $31 billion in tax breaks under the GOP plan in 2011, for an average tax cut per household of about $100,000.

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Republicans accuse Democrats of plotting one of the biggest tax hikes in American history, arguing that raising taxes on wealthy households would punish the very people capable of creating jobs, spurring economic growth and reducing the 9.5 percent unemployment rate. About half of all small-business income is reported on the individual returns of people making over $250,000 a year, according to the taxation committee's data, though those taxpayers represent only about 3 percent of small businesses.

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#5. To: lucysmom (#0)

Nobody has ever received a job from a poor man, goofy.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-14   13:46:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#5)

Nobody has ever received a job from a poor man, goofy.

Wars don't pay for themselves. We had a deficit before the war, you wanted a war, you go the war. Pay for it.

Rhino  posted on  2010-08-14   16:33:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Rhino (#12)

Nobody has ever received a job from a poor man, goofy. Wars don't pay for themselves. We had a deficit before the war, you wanted a war, you go the war. Pay for it

Actually, some wars do in fact 'pay for themselves' so you are incorrect.

Yep, we had a deficit before the war. We've been running deficits for about 50 years now. Whats your point?

Next up, I didn't 'want a war'. Unfortunately, we had no choice in either Afghanistan or Iraq. Both governments at the time the wars began had many opportunities to avoid 'war', they choose this path on their own. As the old saying goes 'We regret the actions others force us to take'. It applies here.

Finally, only a brain dead liberal can suggest 'the wars' created the staggering deficits we now face. You should enter a basic math or general accounting class to avoid saying something like this in a public forum, and inadvertently humiliating yourself.

Have a nice day.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-16   9:46:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Badeye (#51)

some wars do in fact 'pay for themselves'

Well yeah, the ones where the victor rapes and pillages the defeated population.

When did the U.S. ever do this? Never.

Our wars never pay for themselves.

Sometimes wars are necessary. The Cold War comes to mind.

The Iraq cost us at least $800 billion and 4,400 American kid's lives (to date) and was completely unnecessary.

We will be paying for this for a long, long time.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-16   18:50:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: jwpegler (#60)

The Iraq cost us at least $800 billion and 4,400 American kid's lives (to date) and was completely unnecessary.

I think it was in fact 'necessary' and the long term impact will be viewed as the turning point in the Middle East.

Just my opinion, obviously we won't know for a couple of decades.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-17   10:08:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Badeye (#72)

I think it was in fact 'necessary'

Why?

the long term impact will be viewed as the turning point in the Middle East

Yeah, that's what the neo-commies claim. But they also claim we need to invade Iran, Syria, and Lebanon to get that "turning point" situated. No thanks. War mongering and nation building were anathema to the founders because they knew a.) you can't force "democracy" on others and b.) we'd go bankrupt if we tried.

obviously we won't know for a couple of decades.

More people where killed in Iraq in July than any month since the war started. There was a major bombing about a week ago that killed 60 people, and another one yesterday. The two major Shiite political parties (which are allied with Iran) are stalemated and the Sunnis are completely locked out (which is why they are throwing bombs).

Iraq could degenerate into civil war very easily. When it does, the entire middle could be destabilized, starting with the Iraqi Kurds agitating and terrorizing to bring about a Kurdish state (which would threaten Turkey's stability, given that huge Kurdish populations inhabit regions far into the heart of Turkey).

The winner in all of this will be Iran, who are allied with the Shiites in Iraq.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-17   19:12:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: jwpegler (#73)

I think it was in fact 'necessary'

Why?

Because the only way to end the bullshit in the Middle East is to get average people involved in selecting their leadership.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-18   14:02:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Badeye (#74) (Edited)

Because the only way to end the bullshit in the Middle East is to get average people involved in selecting their leadership.

So we're going to force democracy down their throats whether they like it or not.

Great, there are over 100 countries in the world aren't democracies. Are you prepared to bankrupt America and kill countless American kids to take care of them all?

Oh, just in the middle east? Great. We already know that you neo-commies want to pummel Iran (which does allow "average people to get involved in selecting it's leaders"). On the other hand, our buddies in Saudi Arabia run the most brutal regime in the world. Should we invade them too? How about our dictator buddy in Egypt? Or the rest of the Gulf Sheikdoms, none of which let "average people get involved in selecting their leadership".

Two important questions:

A.) Why is this any of our business?

B.) How much money and blood are you willing to waste on this?

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-18   15:09:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: jwpegler (#75)

Because the only way to end the bullshit in the Middle East is to get average people involved in selecting their leadership. So we're going to force democracy down their throats whether they like it or not.

Great, there are over 100 countries in the world aren't democracies.

'So we're going to force democracy down their throats whether they like it or not.'

Its that or continue killing them on a regular basis, and suffering attacks like we did on 9/11 in my view.

'Great, there are over 100 countries in the world aren't democracies.'

Yep. And out of this strawman you bring up, how many are supporting international terrorism against us?

1st Rule of Holes applies here.

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-19   11:38:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Badeye (#76)

Yep. And out of this strawman you bring up, how many are supporting international terrorism against us?

About six, unless you believe the Israelis then all. Evidently you're just another blood dancer. But I doubt you will sacrifice any personal blood to the effort, just other people's and those burnt sacrifices while you mock their stupidity behind their backs..

mininggold  posted on  2010-08-19   11:43:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#78. To: mininggold (#77)

Yep. And out of this strawman you bring up, how many are supporting international terrorism against us?

About six...

Yep, which debunks his entire post. Appreciate it.

btw, I'm a vet. I did my part when I was young.

Tell the forum, what have YOU done to help the nation in your life?

Badeye  posted on  2010-08-19 11:51:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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