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Title: Conservative Internet shock jock Harold (Hal) Turner convicted of threatening to kill Chicago judges
Source: NY Daily News
URL Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_ ... icted_of_threatening_to_k.html
Published: Aug 14, 2010
Author: Dave Goldiner
Post Date: 2010-08-14 03:09:41 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 838
Comments: 4

A Brooklyn jury took less than two hours Friday to convict right-wing loudmouth Harold (Hal) Turner of threatening to kill three Chicago judges.

Turner's mom and teenage son gasped and sobbed as the jury found the Internet shock jock guilty of a single charge of threatening to murder the judges - a charge that carries up to 10 years in prison.

An ashen-faced Turner stripped off his tie and belt and handed his wallet to a clerk before he was led out of the courtroom in downtown Brooklyn.

"I love you, dad," his son, Michael Turner, 16, said after the verdict was read.

Relatives of Turner angrily denounced the lightning-quick verdict, which came on the fourth day of his second retrial.

Two previous trials ended in mistrials after jurors were unable to agree on a verdict.

"There goes the First Amendment for everyone," said Kathy Diamond, Turner's mother. "These judges, their job is to protect the Constitution, not shred it.

She hugged her grandson who also insisted his father did nothing wrong.

"It's totally wrong," Michael Turner. "It's (his) opinion not a threat."

Jurors rushed out of the Brooklyn Heights courtroom without speaking to reporters. No date was set for sentencing.

Prosecutors say the former radio host threatened federal judges Richard Posner, William Bauer and Frank Easterbrook after they upheld Chicago's ban on handguns.

"Let me be the first to say this plainly: these judges deserve to be killed," Turner posted on his website in June 2009.

Turner, 48, of North Bergen, N.J., also posted the judges' phone numbers and office addresses, federal prosecutor Diane MacArthur told the jury.

The first two trials for Turner ended in deadlocked juries. The case was heard in Brooklyn so Turner would not be on trial in the judges' own courthouse.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/08/13/2010-08-13_conservative_internet_shock_jock_harold_hal_turner_convicted_of_threatening_to_k.html#ixzz0wYtKqCNn

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Turner, 48, of North Bergen, N.J., also posted the judges' phone numbers and office addresses, federal prosecutor Diane MacArthur told the jury.

Ok,what was wrong with this? Are they or are they not public officials with public offices and public numbers?

I am kind of on the fence about his "they deserve to be killed" statement. He,and anybody else,has a right to express his opinion as to what SHOULD happen to them,but neither he nor anyone else has a legal right to conspire to commit murder. He did NOT conspire to commit murder,but it seems like he may have danced right up to that line.

Did his lawyer point out that his statement of "they deserve to die" COULD have meant "be put on trail for treason in a court of law,found guilty,and sentenced to death." That would NOT be murder.

AND.......,If ALL he said on the subject was "they deserve to die" and did NOT say anything encouraging anyone to take a active step towards murdering them,all he was doing was expressing a opinion,not conspiring to do anything.

His lawyer should have pointed that out,along with the fact that very few,if any,people conspire to commit murder in public.

I think this guy has a strong case he can win on appeal. The problem is that by the time he wins an appeal he has most likely be bankrupted,and will surely have already spent more than a year in jail.

The judicial system just isn't about to let anybody get away with even remotely threatening any of their Kings without that person being punished,rightly or wrongly.

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So what happened to that 'being an FBI Informer'? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-08-14   10:27:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

So what happened to that 'being an FBI Informer'? 8D

That always seems to be an additional option,doesn't it?

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