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Title: New Mexico solar firm suspends 1 production line (Every time some one in the Green industry loses their job an angel gets it's wings!)
Source: Business Week
URL Source: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9HE37RG2.htm
Published: Aug 6, 2010
Author: NA
Post Date: 2010-08-06 19:09:45 by Nebuchadnezzar
Keywords: None
Views: 7137
Comments: 26

New Mexico solar firm suspends 1 production line

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.

Schott Solar is suspending one of its two concentrated solar power production lines in Albuquerque.

Schott says the suspension will mean laying off about 30 temporary agency employees.

The company blames slow growth in the North American market and a slowdown in the Spanish market.

Company spokesman Matthew Kraft in Elmsford, N.Y., says Schott had 370 employees in Albuquerque before the announced layoffs.

Schott produces photovoltaic panels and thermal receivers at its 200,000-square-foot Albuquerque plant, its flagship facility in North America.

The concentrated solar power modules or thermal receivers are used in large-scale solar power plant trough systems.

Officials say Schott's production of photovoltaic modules is not affected.

Mainz, Germany-based Schott AG opened the Albuquerque plant last year.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Good. Solar is the biggest "dry well" around. We've subsidized those losers for 30+ years for NOTHING.

Green industry = bullshit.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-06   19:10:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#1)

Good. Solar is the biggest "dry well" around. We've subsidized those losers for 30+ years for NOTHING.

No doubt that you would have said the same thing about the automobile in the 1910s.

Currently, Americans pay anywhere from 5 cents to 17 cents a kilowatt hour for electricity. Hydroelectric power in the Northwest tends to be the cheapest. Electricity tends to cost the most in New York and New England.

There are two kinds of solar energy -- solar thermal (concentrated solar power) and solar electric (photo-voltaics).

Arizona is building the largest solar thermal plant in the world. When it's done in 2013, they expect the price per kilowatt hour will a 13 cents. It's not as cheap as coal or hydroelectric, but its within the U.S. averages.

Silicon Valley has been pouring money into photo-voltaics for last few years. Prices have dropped over 100 fold in the last couple of decades. In fact, the price curve isn't very different than that of the micro-processor, which isn't a surprise given the similarities in the technologies.

Here's the bottom line: In one hour more sunlight falls on the earth than what is used by the entire population in one year. So, entrepreneurs will make this work and they are making it work.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-06   19:45:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#2)

Arizona is building the largest solar thermal plant in the world. When it's done in 2013, they expect the price per kilowatt hour will a 13 cents. It's not as cheap as coal or hydroelectric, but its within the U.S. averages.

Blah, blah, blah. AZ is doing it with the assistance of FED GOV. Subsidies.

Bullshit on that.

And no, it isn't cheap and they still, after 30+ years of sucking at the public teet, haven't made it economical.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-06   20:24:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Btw....currently the liars in the green movement are "promising" that their solar plans will cost "only" $.15/Kwhr.

Compared to $.06/kwhr for coal.

And Coal gives us Thorium which can be used in nuclear reactors.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-06   20:51:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#4)

the liars in the green movement are "promising" that their solar plans will cost "only" $.15/Kwhr.

Make no mistake, that price point will happen as the technology matures.

Solar volataics is a similar technology as the microprocessor. There is more compute power in an iPhone today than there was in a huge data center in 1970 and the cost is a couple of hundred bucks versus tens of millions of dollars.

The technology will get there. You can bet on it.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-07   9:59:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

Make no mistake, that price point will happen as the technology matures.

Zzzzzz.....zzzzzz...yeah I've been hearing the same song and dance from the unfeasible solar industry for about, let's see, 32 years plus.

Solar volataics is a similar technology as the microprocessor. There is more compute power in an iPhone today than there was in a huge data center in 1970 and the cost is a couple of hundred bucks versus tens of millions of dollars.

Flawed analogy. Solar hasn't come anywhere near accomplishing the same degree of increase in power in the same time frame the microprocessor did. Yet, the USG has subsidized the solar industry to a much higher degree. Go figure!

The technology will get there. You can bet on it.

Again, when? Still about 4 to 5 times more expensive than the more efficient nuclear energy.

We've wasted billions upon billions on solar when a small fraction of said billions invested in nuclear power would have produced a far greater return.

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