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Title: New Mexico solar firm suspends 1 production line (Every time some one in the Green industry loses their job an angel gets it's wings!)
Source: Business Week
URL Source: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9HE37RG2.htm
Published: Aug 6, 2010
Author: NA
Post Date: 2010-08-06 19:09:45 by Nebuchadnezzar
Keywords: None
Views: 7126
Comments: 26

New Mexico solar firm suspends 1 production line

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.

Schott Solar is suspending one of its two concentrated solar power production lines in Albuquerque.

Schott says the suspension will mean laying off about 30 temporary agency employees.

The company blames slow growth in the North American market and a slowdown in the Spanish market.

Company spokesman Matthew Kraft in Elmsford, N.Y., says Schott had 370 employees in Albuquerque before the announced layoffs.

Schott produces photovoltaic panels and thermal receivers at its 200,000-square-foot Albuquerque plant, its flagship facility in North America.

The concentrated solar power modules or thermal receivers are used in large-scale solar power plant trough systems.

Officials say Schott's production of photovoltaic modules is not affected.

Mainz, Germany-based Schott AG opened the Albuquerque plant last year.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Good. Solar is the biggest "dry well" around. We've subsidized those losers for 30+ years for NOTHING.

Green industry = bullshit.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-06   19:10:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#1)

Good. Solar is the biggest "dry well" around. We've subsidized those losers for 30+ years for NOTHING.

No doubt that you would have said the same thing about the automobile in the 1910s.

Currently, Americans pay anywhere from 5 cents to 17 cents a kilowatt hour for electricity. Hydroelectric power in the Northwest tends to be the cheapest. Electricity tends to cost the most in New York and New England.

There are two kinds of solar energy -- solar thermal (concentrated solar power) and solar electric (photo-voltaics).

Arizona is building the largest solar thermal plant in the world. When it's done in 2013, they expect the price per kilowatt hour will a 13 cents. It's not as cheap as coal or hydroelectric, but its within the U.S. averages.

Silicon Valley has been pouring money into photo-voltaics for last few years. Prices have dropped over 100 fold in the last couple of decades. In fact, the price curve isn't very different than that of the micro-processor, which isn't a surprise given the similarities in the technologies.

Here's the bottom line: In one hour more sunlight falls on the earth than what is used by the entire population in one year. So, entrepreneurs will make this work and they are making it work.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-06   19:45:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#2)

Arizona is building the largest solar thermal plant in the world. When it's done in 2013, they expect the price per kilowatt hour will a 13 cents. It's not as cheap as coal or hydroelectric, but its within the U.S. averages.

Blah, blah, blah. AZ is doing it with the assistance of FED GOV. Subsidies.

Bullshit on that.

And no, it isn't cheap and they still, after 30+ years of sucking at the public teet, haven't made it economical.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-06   20:24:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#3)

AZ is doing it with the assistance of FED GOV. Subsidies.

No one builds any NUCLEAR power plants in the U.S. without any government subsidies. A LOT of subsidies.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-07   9:48:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#5)

No one builds any NUCLEAR power plants in the U.S. without any government subsidies. A LOT of subsidies.

Hey, even if you get rid of the subsidies for both solar and nuclear guess which one wins hands down?

I'm all for getting rid of all subsidies. Are you?

Of course not. Solar withers on the vine without bribes.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-07   15:50:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#8)

I'm all for getting rid of all subsidies. Are you? Of course not.

No you are wrong. I am last person on earth that would want the government to subsidize anything.

Even if you get rid of the subsidies for both solar and nuclear guess which one wins hands down? Solar withers on the vine without bribes.

Wrong again.

Nuclear has died on vine (no new plants since Jimmy Carter) in large part because of the lack of government subsidies. The utilities have made it very clear that they won't build new nuclear plants without massive government subsidies and loan guarantees. It looks like Obama is going to oblige them.

On the other hand, Silicon Valley entrepreneurs and venture capitalists have been POURING their own money into solar technology start ups over the last few years because they know the technology is finally poised to become mainstream.

For example, one company is working on a solar paint (nanonscale solar cells) that can be painted on anything, which capture more wavelengths of light than thin-film photo-voltaics, and will cost about 1/3 as much.

It will probably take another decade or more, but solar power is going to happen, and when it happens it will happen quickly.

Again, the sun dumps as much energy on the earth every hour as we need in a year. That's compelling proposition.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-08-07   16:36:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: jwpegler (#9)

On the other hand, Silicon Valley entrepreneurs and venture capitalists have been POURING their own money into solar technology start ups over the last few years because they know the technology is finally poised to become mainstream.

Horse crap again. There is a solar start-up in my office building. I go to lunch with the guys twice a month.

They've spilled the beans as to where the vast majority of their money comes: California and the Federal teet. They couldn't exist if they didn't have enormous subsidies. Nor could "silicon" valley.

This crap has been going on hard-core ever since Pelosi got her "energy" bill in 2007.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-08-07   18:04:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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