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Title: Obama has Royally Fucked Up in Afghanistan
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://partisan.blogs.hopelesslypartisan.com/item_8292.htm
Published: Jul 30, 2010
Author: Ken Berwitz
Post Date: 2010-07-30 13:34:10 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 19547
Comments: 66

Who has "ownership" of the war in Afghanistan? Is it President Bush, who got rid of the taliban government, closed al qaeda's training camps, and kept things that way with a troop total that never got about the high 20,000's?

Or is it Barack Obama, who declared Afghanistan a "war of necessity" (i.e. he agreed it should be fought), has quadrupled the number of our troops there, and is now overseeing dramatically more combat fatalities in that hopeless anal cavity of the world than we ever had under Bush?

Here is the first part of an Associated Press article which gives us the latest situation there. Warning: It is ugly:

KABUL, Afghanistan 33; Three U.S. troops died in blasts in Afghanistan, bringing the death toll for July to at least 63 and surpassing the previous month's record as the deadliest for American forces in the nearly 9-year-old war.

In Kabul, police fired weapons into the air Friday to disperse a crowd of angry Afghans who shouted "death to America," hurled stones and set fire to two vehicles after an SUV was involved in a traffic accident that killed four Afghans on the main airport road, according to the capital's criminal investigations chief, Abdul Ghaafar Sayedzada.

I hope you took advantage of the link I provided and read not just the couple of paragraphs above, but the entire story.

Tell me: Does this look like the Obama model is working? Does this look like it is yielding better results than President Bush attained with a fraction of the troops and a fraction of the casualties?

Are you pleased with what President Obama has done regarding Afghanistan, and think it is superior to President Bush's strategies? Or do you wish that we could go back in time and revert to how Mr. Bush handled things?

Finally, do you have any doubt whatsoever that, if our wonderful "neutral" media starts attacking President Obama for his conduct of the war (how's that for a big "if"?), Mr. Obama will find a way to blame it all on President Bush?

And whose fault is this? Ultimately, it is ours. We voted this unqualified, incompetent Chicago machine politician into the White House, along with a huge Democratic majority in both houses to second his actions. Now we are paying for it. Full price.

The 2010 elections cannot come soon enough. And that goes double for 2012.

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#4. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Really Stone, is there no bottom to what you'll let this asshole post on your site?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-30   14:12:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Skip Intro (#4)

Really Stone, is there no bottom to what you'll let this asshole post on your site?

A pic of him:

A summary from the following website: http://search.intelius.com/Eric-Dondero- Rittberg/websites/frame?h=4e719d7f3b&title=Eric+Dondero+Rittberg%2C+The+Real- Life+%22Master+Shake%22%3F%2C+by+Mike+Blessing&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncc- 1776.org%2Ftle2004%2Ftle275-20040613-04.html

Eric Dondero Rittberg, The Real-Life "Master Shake"? by Mike Blessing mikewb1972@yahoo.com

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For a few months now, I've been a fan of a cartoon series called "Aqua Teen Hunger Force." Think of it as a sophisticated, surreal Beavis and Butthead, or a really gross form of South Park. Either way, it's pretty funny (it helps to have a twisted sense of humor). You might want to check out the show's page on adultswim.com, as I'll be referring to it in a moment:

http://www.adultswim.com/shows/athf/index.html

The character I'll spend the most time with here goes by the name Master Shake, or just "Shake". He's a talking milkshake, about five feet, six inches. He's also a complete asshole and moron.

Some examples:

Once, Shake sells his roommate Meatwad to the circus for two FRN, telling him that he's going to "computer camp." The other roomie, Frylock, buys a toy for Meatwad. Shake grabs it instead, thinks it's a real computer, then asks "Which one do I buy stock with—the chicken or the piggie?"

Shake and neighbor Carl split the cost of getting a mail-order bride from Chechnya, then fight over who gets to marry her.

Shake flushes the Aqua Teens' monthly bills down the toilet, then complains about the electricity and cable TV getting cut off, blaming the cut-off on the other two.

Shake offers heavy metal musician Zakk Wylde 1.4 million FRN to rewrite "Happy Birthday" into a headbanger tune. When Frylock asks him "Where the hell are you gonna get that kind of money?" Shake says that he'll pay it out of royalties collected from future sales. Shake then plans to debut this masterpiece with Wilde playing it alongside two six-foot plastic scorpions in an abandoned and trashed party hall.

Sound familiar?

If you're familiar with the name Eric Dondero Rittberg (and variants thereof), it should. Dondero-Rittberg has been a perennial whiner in libertarian ranks.

I first came across "Shake" Dondero-Rittberg on the [libertarian_culture] Yahoo list, where he was complaining that we weren't libertarians but actually anarchists. He was also whining that he was "purged" from the Libertarian Party in the late 1980's or early 1990's by the "extremist faction." When I pointed out that George Worthless Bush was a con artist when it came to Second Amendment issues (among other things), Eric the Shake suggested that I join the Taliban or move to Castroist Cuba, and that "You are no American!"

Fast-forward to this year, when lo and behold, I find that Eric the Shake was seeking the LP's vice-presidential nomination. This bid was rather short-lived, as he is still a member of the Republican Party and a fan of Bush II, making it very unlikely that he'd win. So then he joins Gary Nolan's presidential campaign as an aide, fresh out of Ron Paul's office. When Nolan lost the nomination to Michael Badnarik, Eric threw another of his temper tantrums, complaining that Badnarik is "only" a "semi-employed Computer Programmer," has "no college degree" (so what?—neither does Bill Gates), has no military service record, and is a possible plant from the FBI. Etc., etc.

For what it's worth, Dondero-Rittberg says that anyone not with him but still professing to be a libertarian is an anarchist (again, so what?):

"You people make me embarrassed to be in the same movement. Why don't you all just change your names to Anarchists. You are not real libertarians. You don't even know the meaning of the word.

"Go away and get the hell out of the libertraian movement. You are doing SERIOUS DAMAGE TO OUR CAUSE! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !"

Hmmm...

What's this "our cause" BS all about? Since Badnarik got the LP's nod, Dondero- Rittberg went back to being a Bushevik camp-follower, saying that Worthless "must have some libertarian instincts" and that his brother Jeb is a "solid mainstream libertarian." Is this the same Jeb Bush that pitched the Matrix data-mining program to the FBI/CIA ferals in Washington?

As for Worthless' "libertarian instincts," they sure weren't showing when he campaigned with NRA money in his war chest while promising to re-authorize the Clinton-era "assault weapons" ban, as it expires on 13 Sept 2004. How about when he said that he supported "ending the 'gun show loophole'" by making private firearm sales illegal?

And never forget that immediately after the events of 11 Sept 2001 (some call it "9-11"), the neo-conservatives were up in arms that the Air Force didn't have F-16's and F-15's ready to intercept and shoot down the hijacked airliners. At the same time, they were also complaining that "airport security" wasn't "tight enough."

So when it comes down to brass tacks, the Busheviks would rather shoot down a plane with 90-100 people on board who haven't hurt anyone else on the plane— turning them into 600-mph hamburger as their bodies are shredded by the explosion of an air-to-air missile and/or 20-mm or 30-mm cannon-fire—rather than let those same people carry the most effective means of self-defense onto the aircraft.

So much for their support of the Second Amendment.

I guess I'll have to live with being an "Anarchist" then.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-07-30   14:22:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Capitalist Eric (#6)

If you're familiar with the name Eric Dondero Rittberg (and variants thereof), it should. Dondero-Rittberg has been a perennial whiner in libertarian ranks.

He claims to be a Registered Chemical Engineer, but only since the oil spill.

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-30   14:59:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mininggold (#8)

He claims to be a Registered Chemical Engineer, but only since the oil spill.

Real engineers have the title P.E. Without it, they can't call themselves "engineers".

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-30   15:07:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Skip Intro (#11)

Real engineers have the title P.E. Without it, they can't call themselves "engineers".

Wrong, as you and willy are about most things.

I do have a PE designation, but it is not necessary for me to be an engineer.

It just means i have passed a fundamentals of engineering test, have demonstrated adequate work experience, obtained required references, and passed a PE qualification test.

Many engineers never go through this laborious process and are quite accomplished engineers.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-07-31   11:48:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: no gnu taxes (#16)

I do have a PE designation, but it is not necessary for me to be an engineer.

Bullshit. To work as a professional engineer a PE is required. You may be able to work under a PE, but technically you can't call yourself an engineer or sign engineering reports as an engineer.

Don't try to buillshit me on this. I'm a registered geologist, and I worked with PE's and EIT's every day.

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#21. To: Skip Intro (#19)

Most of the engineers who work in industry are not PEs and have no incentive to become one.

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