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Title: Bush Ally: Black Panther Story A ‘Fantasy’ To ‘Topple Obama’
Source: RAW STORY
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0718/black-panther-fantasy-topple-obama/
Published: Jul 18, 2010
Author: By David Edwards and Daniel Tencer
Post Date: 2010-07-18 18:41:07 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 3692
Comments: 9

A Bush administration civil rights appointee says the conservative media uproar over allegations the Justice Department is protecting the New Black Panther Party from voter-intimidation prosecution is a "fantasy" designed to oust Attorney General Eric Holder and harm the Obama administration.

"This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” Abigail Thernstrom, former vice chairwoman of the US Commission on Civil Rights, told Politico.

“My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president,” Thernstrom said.

Thernstrom's views on this issue line up with many voices in the progressive media, who argue the claims that the Justice Department is showing pro-African American racial bias are illegitimate.

Blogger Karoli at Crooks and Liars notes that Thernstrom has been known for her otherwise socially conservative views, including opposition to affirmative action.

Politico describes the facts of the Black Panther controversy like this:

Two men were captured on a video standing outside a polling place in a black Philadelphia neighborhood on Election Day in 2008. One of the men had a nightstick, if an unclear agenda — though a member of the black nationalist New Black Panther Party, he had earlier professed loathing for the Democratic "puppet" candidate, Barack Obama, who went on to overwhelmingly carry that precinct.

Three Republican poll monitors filed complaints of intimidation — itself a federal crime — but no voters attested to being turned away. The Justice Department, while Bush was still president, investigated the incident and later, after Obama took office, decided that "the facts and the law did not support pursuing" the claims against the party and against a second, unarmed man, Justice spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler said.

Thernstrom's comments came as the NAACP sought to distance itself from the controversy over the New Black Panthers, which has been getting considerable attention at Fox News and other conservative news sources. On Sunday, NAACP President Ben Jealous "absolutely condemned" the New Black Panthers during a debate with Tea Party 365 co-founder David Webb.

Webb confronted Jealous about the New Black Panther Party Sunday on CBS' Face the Nation. "I have a serious objection with is his selective condemnation of racism when he will not condemn the New Black Panther Party for saying that they want to kill crackers and kill cracker babies, whereas he would condemn the KKK or any element that shows up in and claims that they are a part of the Tea Party," he said.

"The reality here is that the New Black Panther Party is like 12 people, 13 people," responded Jealous. "They don't say these things at the NAACP. If they did, we would take them on."

"I said three times on a show with you last week so hear me this time. You know, bigots come in all colors. We absolutely denounce the New Black Panther Party. But they aren't in our group. These folks are in your groups," said Jealous.

On Tuesday, the NAACP voted to approve a resolution calling for the Tea Party to repudiate racist elements within their movement.

Since then, the nation's oldest civil rights group has been criticized for ignoring the racism exhibited by a small group called the New Black Panther Party. Conservative outlets like Fox News have pointed to a video where a member of the New Black Panther Party called for African-Americans to "kill cracker babies."

This video is from CBS' Face the Nation, broadcast July 18, 2010.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Why have the commies went back to the word progressive? They are still pieces of shit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-18   18:58:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Why have the commies went back to the word progressive?

Because "socialism" never played well in the U.S. and "liberal" has become unpopular with the public. So, back to "progressive".

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-18   19:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Why have the commies went back to the word progressive?

I'm sure it was a 'focus group' decision.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-07-18   19:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler, AKA (#2)

So, back to "progressive".

You both reference "back to" but I'm not aware that it ever was used in the past to label the social/liberal philosophy.

I could be mistaken, however.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-07-18   19:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#4) (Edited)

You both reference "back to" but I'm not aware that it ever was used in the past to label the social/liberal philosophy.

Ever heard of the Progressive Era -- Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, the Federal Income Tax, Federal Reserve Board, direct election of Senators, Prohibition, and many other government controls over you life??? It was the most radical era in U.S. history.

When progressivism got a bad name in the 1920s, they hijacked the term "liberal". Liberal originally meant limited government, free markets, and individual liberty. It no longer means this in the U.S. (but still does elsewhere in the world) because the progressives (American Socialists) appropriated the name.

I'm glad the left is abandoning the term "liberal" in favor of "progressive" once again because at some point, I'd like to start using "liberal" to describe people like me instead of "libertarian", which I never liked.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-18   19:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#4)

You both reference "back to" but I'm not aware that it ever was used in the past to label the social/liberal philosophy.

I could be mistaken, however.

Must give credit where credit is due. I didn't know this either until watching Glenn Beck a few months back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Era

The Progressive Era in the United States was a period of reform that flourished from the 1890s to the 1920s.[1] Keeping corruption out of politics was a main goal of the progressive era, with many Progressives trying to expose and undercut political machines and bosses. Many Progressives supported prohibition in order to destroy the political power based in saloons. At the same time, women's suffrage was promoted to bring a "purer" female vote into the arena.[2][3][4][5]

Theodore Roosevelt was a prominent contributor to the Progressive Era with his many reforms during his presidency.

Initially the movement was successful at local levels; later it progressed to state and national levels. Progressives drew support from the middle class, and supporters included many lawyers, teachers, physicians, ministers and business people.[6]

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-18   20:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#0)

A Bush administration civil rights appointee says the conservative media uproar over allegations the Justice Department is protecting the New Black Panther Party from voter-intimidation prosecution is a "fantasy" designed to oust Attorney General Eric Holder and harm the Obama administration.

Why would anyone be surprised to see a former Bush 3.0 official defend a Bush 4.0 official?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-18   21:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Why have the commies went back to the word progressive?

Because they are the undisputed masters of word games and propaganda,and "progressive" is a positive word.

Just like they stole and misused the honorable word "liberal" to describe themselves after the words "communist" and "progressive/socialist" took a dive after the 1940's.

It's the same reason homosexuals want to be known as "Gay" instead of homosexual,and neo-con RINO's want to be called "Republicans" instead of "Dims".

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-18   21:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Brian S (#4)

So, back to "progressive". You both reference "back to" but I'm not aware that it ever was used in the past to label the social/liberal philosophy.

Yup. "Progressive" was a code word for communist back in the 20's and 30's.

After all,communism was "the wave of the future" back then.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-18   21:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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