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Title: Obama's Financial 'Reform' Doesn't Fix Anything
Source: FNC
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010 ... eform-senate-skyrocket-crisis/
Published: Jul 16, 2010
Author: John Lott
Post Date: 2010-07-16 09:42:26 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 44008
Comments: 55

Obama's Financial 'Reform' Doesn't Fix Anything By John Lott

Published July 15, 2010

The 2,319 page financial regulation bill that just passed Congress is filled with vague, complicated language.

Some language will weaken our financial system and make it less efficient.

Other language appears to mandate racial and gender employment quotas in dozens of Federal agencies.

In the name of making sure that there is not another financial crisis, the bill does nothing to address what caused the mortgage problems created by government regulations that forced banks to make risky loans that they didn't want to make.

It does nothing to rein in the $400 billion in losses created by government entities Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

What Democrats don't understand is how everyone from farmers to small and large companies use derivatives to decrease their risks. When a farmer plants his crops in the spring he has to worry about what the price of his crops will be when they are harvested in the fall. If prices plummet before the harvest occurs, farmers face real financial peril. So farmers sell a portion of those crops even before they plant them. They know what price they will get and they greatly reduce their risk. That is what a derivative is.

The same thing happens when Southwest Airlines agrees to the price that it will pay for jet fuel months in advance.

Among the new rules is that these derivative transactions must be standardized and traded on exchanges.

Democrats claim that this will make deals more transparent. But what business is it of the government whether the farmer or Southwest Airlines makes that deal with another company or over an exchange?

If farmers and companies really benefit from using these exchanges, why does the government have to force them to make agreements that way?

What should be obvious is that the costs of trading derivatives will increase. The contracts traded over these exchanges will also not be as flexible as they are now.

Making derivatives more costly is simply another way of saying that the cost of farmers and companies buying insurance will rise. When some farmers stop buying this higher cost insurance will anyone seriously argue that really reduces their financial risks?

Regulations that restrict bank size ignore one critical question: why are the banks the size that they are now?

The most likely reason is that the most efficient banks grew, the ones that could offer customers the best services at the lowest costs attracted more customers.

Larger banks presumably could also offer services that smaller banks couldn't.

So how does forcing banks to have higher costs and be less efficient make them less risky? Won't that make them more likely to go out of business?

Proponents of regulating derivatives point to the losses from AIG or Goldman Sachs supposedly ripping off its customers. A simple solution for AIG would have been to let it go bankrupt and make shareholders bear that loss.

For Goldman Sachs, even if the questionable fraud charges are true, the fraud could presumably occur with any financial instrument, not just derivatives.

Just as President Obama is driving oil rigs out of American waters to other nations, he is going to drive some financial operations overseas.

He is going to raise company costs and make it costly for them to buy insurance.

We have yet another example of government financial regulations begetting more regulations. Regulations that force financial institutions to make risky mortgages remain in place.

John R. Lott, Jr. is a FOXNews.com contributor. He is an economist and author of More Guns, Less Crime (University of Chicago Press, 2010).

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#1. To: All (#0)

He is an economist and author of the discredited More Guns, Less Crime...

war  posted on  2010-07-16   9:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye, war (#0)

This FASCIST Guv'ment CONTROL of Private Business is EEEVIL and only RAT-MORONS believe this will be good fer America.

And yes, while I have our resident RAT-MORON-extraordinaire on BOZO fer obvious reasons, I am talking about war in particular.

This legislation needs to be revoked and overturned as soon as the RATS are dispatched from DeeCee...MUD

BTW...it's great having you two kids back together again, ain't it?!

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-07-16   9:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#1)

People have a right to own firearms. There are no restrictions that are lawful.

More guns means less crime. Unless you take into account the police departments use of such items.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   9:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Mudboy Slim (#2)

Dude...you are seriously stupid.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   9:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited)

People have a right to own firearms.

I agree.

There are no restrictions that are lawful.

I disagree. At the least, I don't want a paroled violent felon to be able to buy one. Nor do I want a 6 year old carrying one to school.

More guns means less crime.

There has yet to be a study which tried to establish a cause/effect relationship there withstand scrutiny.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   9:56:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#4)

Dude...you are seriously stupid.

Lets put you up against mudboy on an intelligence and common sense level.

Mudboy would be Einstein

You would be quazimodo

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   9:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

Want to bet your bottom dollar?

Right here right now.

Muddbutt PINGS people at sites at which they cannot or do not post. He also pINGS people who have not been seen in years. He PINGS people to those moronic song parodies despite EVERYONE asking him not to.

Shall I tell you where to send the money order?

war  posted on  2010-07-16   9:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mudboy Slim (#2)

I don't bother with him Mud. He hasn't had a new thought in a decade.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-16   10:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone, Mud Boy, war (#6)

war: "Dude...you are seriously stupid."

A K A Stone: "Lets put you up against mudboy on an intelligence and common sense level.

Mudboy would be Einstein"

You would be quazimodo

war on an intelligence and common sense level? He'd be dead before he got anywhere near that level, my money would be on mudboy...

"Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but incredible stupidity can usually be traced to an organization."

Murron  posted on  2010-07-16   10:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Murron (#9)

Do you still PING me at ElPee and 4UM?

Why not?

war  posted on  2010-07-16   10:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye, war, All (#0)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You want to talk farmers and derivatives?

And then equate that to the Banksters and Fraudulent Horse Race Tickets?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Tyler Durden's picture University Of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Plunges To One Year Low Of 66.5, Versus Expectation Of 74.5, Previous 76 Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/16/2010 09:01 -0500

See, that's the problem with the 'Toxic Assets', BE's 'Farmers/soy/futures' bs.

$1.5 Quadrillion. And a World GDP of, what, maybe $70 Trillion?

You can only find a % of the % of those Toxic Assets, and Only by destroying the planet.

That's where we are.

And another, btw. When farmers hedge their crops? They have to have the margin. And pay off with the grain or $$$ on delivery.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-16   10:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

©©Manipulating interest rates and keeping them artificially low (often below the rate of real inflation) in order to ‘create jobs’ is a con game. We know that job losses are actually attached more to trade policies which is why our country lost nearly 10 million in industrial production jobs in the last 35 years of trade deficits, for example.

The Fed was created to make jobs, keep the $ stable.

It's failed at both. eliminate it and Public Banking.

We're so far away from that. Might as well talk about eliminating Corporations.

In ten years. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-16   10:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mcgowanjm (#12) (Edited)

We know that job losses are actually attached more to trade policies which is why our country lost nearly 10 million in industrial production jobs in the last 35 years of trade deficits, for example.

Shhhh...you're slaying the Myth o' Reagan Being A Great POTUS in one fell swoop...

He gave away American jobs to Japan and TIGERS by the MILLIONS.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   10:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

See, that's the problem with the 'Toxic Assets', BE's 'Farmers/soy/futures' bs.

BE's? You mean 'me' here?

If so, I have zero idea what you are referring to.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-16   10:33:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Badeye (#14)

See, that's the problem with the 'Toxic Assets', BE's 'Farmers/soy/futures' bs.

BE's? You mean 'me' here?

If so, I have zero idea what you are referring to.

In your Article Above:

"What Democrats don't understand is how everyone from farmers to small and large companies use derivatives to decrease their risks. When a farmer plants his crops in the spring he has to worry about what the price of his crops will be when they are harvested in the fall. If prices plummet before the harvest occurs, farmers face real financial peril. So farmers sell a portion of those crops even before they plant them. They know what price they will get and they greatly reduce their risk. That is what a derivative is."

But after Reagan/Greenspan's Commodity Act of 1982, things became a little different:

An October 15, 2008 article in the Washington Post analyzing the origins of the economic crisis claims that Greenspan vehemently opposed any regulation of derivatives, and that Greenspan actively sought to undermine the office of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission when the Commission sought to initiate regulation of derivatives. Meanwhile, Greenspan recommended improving mark-to-market regulations to avoid having derivatives or other complex assets marked to a distressed or illiquid market during times of material adverse conditions as seen during the late 2000s credit crisis.[63]

Ask war. He'll explain it to you. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-16   10:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

Its not 'my article' dumbass, its 'a article'.

My view is subsidizing farmers in any way is shear stupidity.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-16   10:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#16)

an

dumbass

Badeye has a gay crush on ABBA

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-07-16   10:50:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Abu el Banat (#17)

ABBA! Careful, Grammar King won't like your attempt at usurping the throne....

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-16   10:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#16)

It's

dumbass

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-16   11:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mcgowanjm (#15) (Edited)

An October 15, 2008 article in the Washington Post analyzing the origins of the economic crisis claims that Greenspan vehemently opposed any regulation of derivatives...

Back when the Oog was still around, he and I would go at it over this fact. Greenspan's complicity - fuck complicity, he actually ENCOURAGED their use out of one side of his mouth while warning about the effects of a dislocation caused by their overuse - in the meltdown is as underreported an aspect to this as is any otehr element.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   11:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#20)

Yep.

# # Alan Greenspan Timeline 1974, Nixon selects Greenspan to head his Council of Economic Advisers, but resigns the presidency soon after, making Gerald Ford the new President. ... www.noblesoul.com › Home › Biographical Information - Cached - Similar

Greenie and Poppy Bush. After 30 and 40 years, they're like the Eye of the Storm.

Dynasty and Empire. While the Whistleblowers get the axe:

Elizabeth Warren in Treasury Crosshairs Again, Geithner Opposes Her as Head of Consumer Financial Services Protection Agency

To say there is no love lost between Treasury and Elizabeth Warren is probably putting it mildly.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/07/elizabeth-warren-in-treasury-crosshairs-again-geithner-opposes-her-as-head-of-consumer-financial-services-protection-agency.html

Deep Capture indeed. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-16   11:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#21)

United States v. Alcoa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Greenspan grants that Alcoa was a monopoly, but maintains that it was not a coercive monopoly and, hence, should not have been subject to anti-trust action. ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Alcoa

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-16   11:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

Still out of money til the end of the month, huh freddie?

You really need to get some help with the gambling addiction.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-16   11:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mcgowanjm (#21)

To say there is no love lost between Treasury and Elizabeth Warren is probably putting it mildly.

I've been reading about this elsewhere. She seems like the perfect candidate for the job.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-16   11:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#1)

Sorry, Shedlock tore this "reform" bill to bits.

You might want to educate yourself on this failed legislation.

If you voted for Obama in 2008, you're too blame for this rotten mess we're now in. You broke it, you own it.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-07-16   11:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#13)

He gave away American jobs to Japan and TIGERS by the MILLIONS.

Wrong. He got the Japanese to open their auto plants in the US.

Man your disinformation machine isn't firing on all cylinders War.

If you voted for Obama in 2008, you're too blame for this rotten mess we're now in. You broke it, you own it.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-07-16   11:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#25)

Sorry, Shedlock tore this "reform" bill to bits.

There are more qualifications in his screech than Hitler required for establishing Aryan blood.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   11:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#26) (Edited)

He got the Japanese to open their auto plants in the US.

Bzzzzt...Carter...the guy who was "inept", remember? He opened the door in the late 70's with Honda in Marysville. The plan was to tool it first for motorcycles and then for cars which it did a year into Red Ink's term.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   11:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

She seems like the perfect candidate for the job.

Which is why the banksters hate her.

;}

Common Sense.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-16   11:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#28)

Bzzzzzzzzz....wrong. In '82/'83 when Japanese imports were flooding the place, Reagan told the Japanese to limit their imports or he'd ask congress to put quotas on them.

THAT is when the real move by the Japanese occurred and saw the up-tick in jobs from Japan.

What time did you wake up this morning? Whatever it was, it wasn't early enough to get past me!!!

HAHAHAHA!

If you voted for Obama in 2008, you're too blame for this rotten mess we're now in. You broke it, you own it.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-07-16   11:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#30)

Bzzzzzzzzz....wrong. In '82/'83 when Japanese imports were flooding the place, Reagan told the Japanese to limit their imports or he'd ask congress to put quotas on them.

Moron...he DID put quotas on them. Imports were cut ~10% in the early 80's but when that made US cars LESS competitive he raised the ceiling. The car industry wasn't the real problem, electronics and US made content is how we got killed.

Why is it that everyone I am discussion shit with seems hellbent on creating a new reality.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   12:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#30)

If you voted for Obama in 2008, you're too blame for this rotten mess we're now in.

That is a completely moronic statement. Overall, the US is better off now than it was in 2008 with one exception: There are more unemployted now. But that is a by product of the economic dynamics that were in place when Obama came into office. The rate stablized and has since moved down.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   12:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone, war, Badeye, Murron (#6)

Thanks Mr. Stone, but I've known enuff to IGNORE RAT-TROLLS like war fer quite awhile. Badeye's got it right when he explains that war is simply incapable of original thought...I mean, if it ain't an Obamabot talking point, war ain't capable of copy/pasting it. However, I think it is useful fer Lurkers to see exactly how STOOOPID you look when you try and defend the indefensible ObamaNation.

Obviously, war's inherently incapable of comprehending his own idiocy, but that's typical fer the braindead RATS...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-07-16   19:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: war (#10)

Do you still PING me at ElPee and 4UM?

Why not?

Because I don't post at either site, numb nuts...

"Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but incredible stupidity can usually be traced to an organization."

Murron  posted on  2010-07-16   20:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Murron (#34)

So if you still posted there knowing that I don't, would you PING me?

war  posted on  2010-07-16   21:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#32)

That is a completely moronic statement. Overall, the US is better off now than it was in 2008 with one exception: There are more unemployted now. But that is a by product of the economic dynamics that were in place when Obama came into office. The rate stablized and has since moved down.

the deficit is starting to come down as well, a 7.2% drop so far this year.


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-07-16   22:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: go65 (#36)

Did you see Murron and Stone jumping on the "Muddutt is Einstain" bandwagon?

That's how we end up with morons like Boy Blunder and The Virgin Sarah...

war  posted on  2010-07-17   8:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: go65 (#36)

Its amusing you leftwingers think record foreclosures and bankruptcy's aren't part of the equation comparing 08 to 2010.

Its why your side is about to lose congress, and why Owe-bama is a one term failure.

And its laughable, this insane claim about the deficit 'coming down' give what the Democrats in power want to do with spending - increase it - and the death blow to the teetering economy, cap and tax.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-17   11:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Badeye (#38)

Its amusing you leftwingers think record foreclosures and bankruptcy's aren't part of the equation comparing 08 to 2010.

I'm able to see that by virtually all measures things are better off now then they were when Bush was in charge.

Maybe YOU want to return to losing 700k jobs a month, I don't.


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-07-18   0:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mcgowanjm (#12)

"The Fed was created to make jobs, keep the $ stable. It's failed at both. eliminate it and Public Banking. We're so far away from that. Might as well talk about eliminating Corporations. In ten years. ;}"

I thought our ten-year plan was to be an Oil-free nation by the end of the decade?!

LOL...but yer correct about the Fed being a failure as to its original raison d'etre, mac. Sounds like you've already read "The Creature from Jekyll Island", but I'm absolutely simpatico to the line of thought that the Fed is a insipidly nefarious weapon being weilded by the Power-Whorin' EffeteElite to subjugate, control and ultimately impoverish WeThePeople.

Regards...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-07-18   5:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: go65 (#39)

"I'm able to see that by virtually all measures things are better off now then they were when Bush was in charge."

Hooo, buddy, yer drinkin' the Obamabot Kool-Aid now, ain't ya?! LOL...unless yer a Union THUG RAT-MORON or part of Obama's inner circle of corrupt recipients of stolen funds from Obama's new-found kitty, the ObamaNation SUCKS!! Sorry if'n I just outted ya here on TheFlame, GO65, but yer reasoning is utterly lacking in TRUTH, wisdom, and/or understanding.

"Maybe YOU want to return to losing 700k jobs a month, I don't."

Straw dog, dude...look back, the jobs didn't start disappearing until individual American employers--ALL OF THEM--HOO were charged with making hiring/firing decisions came to recognize that Obama was gonna be our next POTUS and they realized that the ObamaNation promised to be POISONOUS to the American economy. And the RATS/RINOS--yes, that's Nancy "The Botox BEE- ahhhtch" Pelosi, Harry "Dingy Real Estate FRAUDster" Reid, Senator Barry "The RAT-Messiah" Obama and Dubyuh and Hank "The Sneaky Spy-RAT" Paulson-- orchestrated this SEDITIOUS ATTACK on the American homeland...ON PURPOSE!! GO65, this is yer Marxist utopian dream being realized...ain't you just tickled pink that you were smart enuff to become an obedient li'l Obamabot before the ObamaNation transformed this once-great Nation into what we see before us today?

MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-07-18   5:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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