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Title: Heritage Budget Expert Debunks Bush Tax Cuts-Deficit Myth
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URL Source: http://www.libertycentral.org/herit ... -tax-cuts-deficit-myth-2010-07
Published: Jul 13, 2010
Author: libertycentral
Post Date: 2010-07-13 15:30:47 by no gnu taxes
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Brian Riedl, writing in today’s Wall Street Journal, takes on the assertion made by many Democrats that it was the Bush Tax Cuts and the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that drove our federal deficit to monstrous levels. Riedl writes that there was never an actual surplus that was removed by the cuts, and that President Obama’s assertions about the Bush administration’s impact on the size of the debt before he took office are simply incorrect. Instead, it is the decline in revenues from a down economy and increased government spending that have pushed the deficit to these levels.

The Democrats routinely assert that the Bush tax cuts wiped out the budget surpluses that existed under the Clinton Administration. This idea is simply not true because the surplus never existed. It was a projection made by the Congressional Budget Office which assumed the continued late 90’s economic growth and record high tax revenues. Out of the total swing of $11.7 trillion dollars from the CBO estimate to our current $6.1 trillion deficit, the Bush tax cuts accounted for only $1.7 trillion of the shift. The majority of the change comes from economic revisions and new spending. Other factors include interest on the debt, as well as President Obama’s stimulus bill.

The sudden explosion of a budget deficit in 2009 to over $1 trillion dollars came from falling revenues and stimulus spending. President Obama’s targets are also arbitrary, ignoring the massive debts being placed on the American people by Social Security, Medicare, anti-poverty programs and other discretionary spending. The current administration’s policies will grow our projected deficit to $13 trillion, with only $4.7 trillion attributable to the policies of the Bush Administration (the tax cuts, wars and the Medicare drug program). The administration also intends to continue spending, averaging 20.3% of GDP while taking in only approximately 18% in tax revenue.

This means that the administration’s current policies will continue to dig our deficit hole deeper and deeper. While the Bush administration is far from blameless in the growth of our national debt, it is a straw man for the Democrats to point at while they continue their free spending policies that have accumulated more debt in one year than George Bush did in eight.

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#51. To: Badeye (#49)

Ah, no. Its a ponzi scheme thats about to collapse.

I predict 2 things will happen with SS in the next 10-20 years.

The income cap will be removed and all income will be subject to taxation.

You will be means tested before you can receive it.

In other words, it will be reformed into a welfare program instead of a retirement program.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-07-14   12:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: no gnu taxes (#51)

I agree with one but only partially with the other. Means testing will only reduce benefits to a floor not to 0.

war  posted on  2010-07-14   12:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: no gnu taxes (#51)

You will be means tested before you can receive it.

I've been saying for a decade this should be done. Sorry, Bill Gates doesn't need a SS check each month when he 'retires'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-14   12:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom (#50)

No, I don't know that at all.

Then let me teach you a lesson. There is no constitutional authority for it. If I am wrong show me the constitutional authority.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   7:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#54)

There is no constitutional authority for it.

Where is the constitutional authority for an Air Force?

That asked:

Article II Section 2[b]:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law...

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The US Congress has the power to create executive departments and officers. The Social Security Act was passed by the US Congress.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   7:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: war (#55)

and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law...

So they could make an office of say round up the niggers and execute them?

Or the office of round up the jews and gas them.

Or the office of stick a penis in wars mouth.

Those powers have fall within the limits placed in other parts of the constitution.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   7:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#56) (Edited)

So they could make an office of say round up the niggers and execute them?

Nope. There are several amendments to the USCON that is supposed to prevent that but several Muslims in US custody may disagree.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: war (#57)

Yes they could. Because of this. Your own quote.

That asked:

Article II Section 2[b]:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law...

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#57)

Where are the amendments to the constitution that prevent an office of stick a penis in wars mouth?

Keep this in mind.

That asked:

Article II Section 2[b]:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law...

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#58)

What proscriptions or hinderances do the 5th, 8th and 14th amendments put on government power?

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: war (#60)

Social security is unconstitutional.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: A K A Stone (#59)

Where are the amendments to the constitution that prevent an office of stick a penis in wars mouth?

The first amendment creates a wall of separation on government's power to interfere with anyone's right of association.

Are you going to get any smarter any time soon in this conversation? Maybe a cup of coffee will help?

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#61)

Social security is unconstitutional.

You've offered nothing to support that contention.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#62)

The first amendment creates a wall of separation on government's power to interfere with anyone's right of association.

Quite making stuff up.

An office of stick the penis in wars mouth is just as constitutional as the office of social security. That is a fact you can take to the bank.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: war (#63)

You've offered nothing to support that contention.

Yes I did. It is called the constitution. There is no delegated power for it to force you to set up a "government retirement plan"

What you quoted only authorizes the office of stick a penis in wars mouth.

You haven't showed any prohibitions for the office of stick a penis in wars mouth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:17:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: war (#62)

You've offered nothing to support that contention.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A K A Stone (#64) (Edited)

Quite [sic] making stuff up.

Why can't Irish Gays and Lesbians march in the St. Patty's Day parade here?

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#66)

You've offered nothing to support that contention.

I pointed out the section of the USCON which vests Congress with the power to create executive departments and agencies.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: war (#62) (Edited)

Where are the amendments to the constitution that prevent an office of stick a penis in wars mouth?

The first amendment creates a wall of separation on government's power to interfere with anyone's right of association.

Are you going to get any smarter any time soon in this conversation? Maybe a cup of coffee will help?

I pointed out the section of the USCON which vests Congress with the power to create executive departments and agencies. . So that proves that a department of stick a penis in wars mouth is constitutional.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#69) (Edited)

I pointed out the sections of the USCON which clearly PROSCRIBE such an exercise.

And thanks for answering the question. Your "No, I'm not" is duly noted.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#63)

Social security is unconstitutional.

You've offered nothing to support that contention.

I poinited out the sections of the USCON which clearly PROSCRIBE such an exercise.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#71)

You haven't cited any section of the USCON.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: war (#62)

The first amendment creates a wall of separation on government's power to interfere with anyone's right of association.

You haven't cited any section of the USCON.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#73)

#55 reveals you to be a liar.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:38:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: war (#74)

55 is your post not mine. I haven't responded to it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war (#74)

Should Obama be impeached for using the air force?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: A K A Stone (#75)

55 is your post not mine.

Duh.

I haven't responded to it.

Post #56 which is a direct response to #55 reveals you to be a liar.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#76)

Should Obama be impeached for using the air force?

Is it a high crime or misdemeanor for doing so?

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#77)

55 is your post not mine.

Duh.

Duh. You said it proves I am a liar. How so...duh

It will prove you to be a liar if you don't say Obama should be impeached for using the air force for something you quoted was unconstitutional.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: A K A Stone (#79)

Duh. You said it proves I am a liar. How so...duh

You claimed that I did not cite any section of the USCON. I did so in #55.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: war (#78)

Should Obama be impeached for using the air force?

Is it a high crime or misdemeanor for doing so?

It is you who said that the air force is unconstitutional.

Using an unconstitutional branch of government to bomb and kill people would be a high crime.

So here is to consistency. Your next words (if you are honest) is that Obama should be impeached.

You are in the corner with no way out. So I expect you to lash out instead of telling the truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: A K A Stone (#79)

You need 'proof' at this point?

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-16   8:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: war (#80)

You claimed that I did not cite any section of the USCON. I did so in #55.

I claimed that you didn't cite the constitution in relation to what I responded to.

However I will take still respond.

You said the air force isn't constitutional. That isn't in the constitution.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: A K A Stone (#81)

It is you who said that the air force is unconstitutional.

In what post did I so state? I ASKED you a question about constitutional authority vis-a-vis an Air Force. A question that you didn't answer, btw.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: war (#84)

That is not a constitutional cite.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: A K A Stone (#83)

I claimed that you didn't cite the constitution in relation to what I responded to.

You were wrong. The Congress created the SSA.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war (#86)

So everything congress creates is constitutional just by the merit that congress passed it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-16   8:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#85)

Huh?

The US Air Force was created by AN ACT OF CONGRESS [NSA Act of 1947] under its Section II authority to create EXECUTIVE departments.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: A K A Stone (#87)

So everything congress creates is constitutional just by the merit that congress passed it?

As I have pointed out several times on this thread, no. An agency created to round up all niggers [sic] and execute them, while appealing to some, is clearly unconcsitutional as it a) deprives life without due process which is repugnant to 5A b) is cruel and unusual which is repugnant to 8A and c) violates equal protection which is repugnant to 14A.

war  posted on  2010-07-16   8:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: war (#89)

But the cuckoo's nest would like it.

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-07-16   9:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Bartcoprules (#90)

Chyea...

war  posted on  2010-07-16   9:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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