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Title: Palin critics suffer from fear factor
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phillyburbs.com
URL Source: http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/new ... s-suffer-from-fear-factor.html
Published: Jul 5, 2010
Author: Dennis Miller
Post Date: 2010-07-06 00:15:38 by reaganisright
Keywords: moonbats, womenhaters, Libtards
Views: 267426
Comments: 430
The last presidential campaign, its election and each and every day since have crystallized the magic and malice of the national media. By working its magic, the media were able to keep Obama hidden in clear sight. His past was selectively chosen, his present was a manufactured eloquence of hope and change, his future was his transcendent ability to lead us to the land of milk and honey, and his gaffes were editorially retrofitted. The media took a virtual unknown and kept him unknown. This Camelot euphoria was interrupted by another unknown that stoked the malice of the media. Unexpectedly, a non-elite commoner caused a derangement syndrome with Obama and his media acolytes that came out of the clear blue; the source of their derangement ... Sarah Palin. The media launched a D-Day scale invasion of Alaska. Its mission was not to report, but to search and destroy. Every nook and cranny of Palin's life and anyone and everyone associated with her was scrutinized. Nothing was off limits: having five children was improper, her children's names were ridiculed, her fifth child was portrayed as her grandchild, and her everyday life was depicted as trailer trash. The universal talking point was the vice presidential candidate is not only barefoot and pregnant, Palin is dumb. Let's examine Palin's "dumbness." She more than held her own in the vice-presidential debate with Joe Biden. While campaigning, even with the cheap shots from a left-wing media wrapped in straightjackets of unchangeable political ideology, Palin's message and demeanor won the hearts and minds of more and more Americans. With a stronger running mate, the results may have been different. Now as a leader of the tea party movement, the media now suffer from another bout of derangement syndrome. Tea party members are touted as dumb, and Palin is dumb. Money or more precisely, lack of money is a major problem in all too many states. As governor, Palin had an opposite track record than her counterparts in bastions of liberalism such as New York, New Jersey, California and Massachusetts. These states are financially belly up and will be turning to Washington for, what else, a bailout. Yet Alaska is financially solvent. Its biggest concern is trying to keep Washington away. But the media spin is Alaska is a state of dummies and Palin is dumb. Advertisement Palin wrote a book that sold 2.2 million copies and, much to the New York Times' chagrin, was on its Bestseller List for 11 weeks. The Associated Press had eleven fact checkers dissect each word of her book and found nothing to stir up another personal assassination. Nancy Pelosi had a book published; it's sitting on the shelf of your local book store. Regardless of the incredible success of Palin's book, the media decision: Pelosi is smart, Palin's readers are dumb, and Palin is dumb. Who is Sarah Palin? Wife, mother, grandmother, soldier's mom, soccer mom, working mom, who believes in God, the Constitution, American uniqueness, sanctity of life, family values, school choice and low taxes. And because of this she is dumb. Maybe there just happens to be a whole lot of moms who believe in the same things. Women, who from the time they get up to the time they go to bed, are constantly juggling the multiple roles and responsibilities that define them. How dumb they are? Or do they have to be a conservative, female politician to be dubbed dumb? Tea party moms, you're in the same boat. Wendy Doniger, a professor at Chicago Divinity School, wrote "Her (Palin) greatest hypocrisy is her pretense that she is a woman." Coming from divinity school that doesn't sound too divine, but it does sound liberal. Maybe her definition of a woman would be Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer or Janet Napolitano. Mothers of Bucks County and beyond, do you align yourselves with these ladies who are proclaimed smart or with Sarah Palin who is ... well, you know? There's a major disconnect with the media's derangement syndrome. If Sarah Palin is so dumb and inconsequential, why do they go out of their way to castigate her? Why waste the time? It's a one-word answer ... fear. Never heard or read anything from Dennis Miller and I'm from the phillyburbs area. Pretty good piece of writing, maybe why they aren't sinking like the rest of the print media.
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#1. To: reaganisright (#0)
He needs to shut up and entertain like the rest of the celebrity/entertainers his Fox cohost Laura Ingraham writes about.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Typical of you whiney leftards. Always calling for and endorsing censorship! Dennis Miller is a popular American comedian, actor, and political, social and sports commentator. He has won numerous Emmy Awards, hosted his own TV show, had award winning specials, and never fails to make his opinions known. Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?
I pretty much agree with everything he wrote,but he didn't write enough. He failed to mention she is a Zionist and Israeli-Firster,and that she was seduced by the bright lights and big money of national politics. We have enough problems as it is. We sure don't need a "End Times" nutter in the White House.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You mean like Kommie Katie,Baba WaWa,Georgette Stephanopolis,John Stewart,and Diane whatsherface from ABC?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You don't like free speech eh. No this is what needs to happen. The black guy illegally occupying the white house needs to admit he isn't a citizen and get the fuck out of America. That is what needs to happen.
This "argument" is the ROFLMAO moment of the debate. Why anyone would believes that ANYONE fears Palin is beyond anything containing a semblence of reason. She was an ineffective mayor. She was an ineffective governor who quit her position because, IN HER OWN WORDS, she was ineffective and couldn't handle the scrutiny. Everytime she opened her mouth she said something stupid. She couldn't handle two fluff interviews and the excuse that Katie Couric was laying in wait for her is laughable when you consider the fact that the question that tripped up the Virgin Mary was a simple inquiry into what media sources she used. One of the most bizzarre moments in political history is her resignation "speech".
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
MG's reference was pretty clear. Ingraham wrote a book about entertainers injecting themselves into politics. She certainly wasn't "pro". I remember Dennis Miller when he was funny. Now he's trying to make a buck off of a gullible audience.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
You commies are afraid of Palin. No doubt. It is utter stupidity to say otherwise. The monkey in the white house has nightmares about her.
It's utter stupidity to believe that there is any fear of this women. Again, EVERY TIME she opens her yap she tumbles in the polls. EVERY TIME she speaks there is never a positive outcome. She whored her family out so that she could achieve her own political goals. The monkey in the white house has nightmares about her. Boy Blunder left office in January of 2009. You commies ROFLMAO..."commies"...BWAHAHAHAHAHA... I will say that Palin knows her audience. Thankfully, there aren't very many of you.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
You're afraid of Palin. No doubt. Quit lying. Democrats are evil and Palin is a light of truth on their evil ways. It is sickening that you support a murdering piece of shit like Obama. Are you brain damaged?
Boy blunder moved in in 2009 dimwit. He and his chimp family.
Chuckles...close your eyes, tap those ruby slippers together three times as you repeat that and then see if it's any truer. Oops...it isn't...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Obama - or anyone for that matter - COULD be a monkey and they'd still be doing better than your hero.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
And you know this how, tool? January 13, 2005 Urban Word of the Day TOOL Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
Being smarter than you is a good start. The economy is no longer in the free fall it was left in when your Apeman left in 2009.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Be honeset. Neither Jethro or myself supported Bush. You do support a known baby killer though. Shame.
I'm one of the most honest posters you have here. Had I to choose, tho, Fred and Skip and lucysmom and MG are equal. Maybe a slight edge to Fred and Skip, tho. And you both voted for Bush...why hide it. I didn't vote for Obama. I would have voted for Hillary.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
lol. Editing content of articles isn't exactly honest. Then you denied it at first.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
And thanks for admitting one but you know that you do the other. #67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace war posted on 2010-06-10 11:33:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit
Right. I added a word. It didn't "change" anything.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
But you said I didn't "change" anything.
I didn't. I "added". Nothing was "changed".
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Outside of Obamas asshole. You know the real world. Adding is changing. If you add 2 to 3 does it change? Don't be a worm.
Ah....your swallowing the HOPE & CHANGE BS from the Kenyan disproves your thesis. Try again.
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
I have no intention of supporting Obama in any election.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Just wow. I see you have NO CAPACITY to learn from a bone head move. If you don't think altering copyrighted material is changing it, your banning is looking better and better to me :P
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
I'm sure it is. You're a power hungry pissant of a boy.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
(laughing)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Very good example of a liberal being unable to admit a mistake.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You probably hate it when gays use homophobia to describe anti-gay types, as if they are afraid of homosexuality and that's why they are against it. I know I do. You're using the same tactic against people who don't like Palin. It's fucking retarded when gay people do it and it's fucking retarded when Palin supporters do it.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
You poor, leftist oaf. Perhaps the Land of Internet chat rooms is a place for "power hungry" folks in your world, but for us living beyond the confines of a Long Island hovel, they're simply a place to chat (and in your case alter Bloomberg articles)
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
I'm not poor and I am quite nimble. You on the other hand, held a government job that you quit at the earliest moment to rob the taxpayers of a pension that due to your years of corruption and usurpation of basic human rights should be witheld from you.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Its fucking pathetic to hate a woman because she wouldn't give you the time of day, ABBA, for the obvious reason.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Don't forget he hangs out at that shithole forum over there back-slapping all the other anti-government retards. The only reason he's still alive is leaching off the government yet he fights the man. He fights all the way to the mailbox to get his government money to buy more beer and ammo. And beer.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
Don't be an asshole (if possible). I haven't paid the bitch any attention at all. I haven't read a word she's written (can she write?) and I doubt I've heard her speak 10 words. I know her because of her supporters.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
I'll take your word for it, Tool, but you are distinct liability with your reckless, article altering proclivity.
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
Do the Tea Partiers who criticize her for endorsing establishment GOP candidates over Tea Party challengers in places like California, Texas, Arizona, and Idaho also fear her?
Fuck off. Just about every thread on this - and on your and your girlfriend's site - is a copyright violation and you know it. So shove your sanctimony up your ass.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Of course not...because being a republican means...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Well you need to go right up to the WH and get him to admit it. The all powerful Stone. LOLOL. Maybe you could get your prayer groups to pray for demons to attack him until he's admits it. Yep I suuuure hate free speech. But I really prefer the Israeli/neocon type of free speech.... calling everyone an anti-semite and other stupid childish names, something YOU never seem to object to. And while I'm about it I might as well make a childish generalization about you, you hate Laura Ingraham.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Aw, ABBA, don't be upset you can't write a tagline on your own. Its not Palin's fault....(laughing)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
No, only leftwingers and men that couldn't get the prom queen to date them fear/hater her GO65.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Tool, the difference being only YOU CHANGES copyrighted material. Just apologize for being a goof and move on, OK?
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
And her supporters are a truly unlikeable bunch. I think of Mad Dog as being typical of the droolers.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Aha, ok. Thanks.
Its not Palin's fault....(laughing) You do realize that when Palin left Alaska, it had one of the highest budget deficits as a percentage of state budget of any state?
One incident even for you doesn't make a generalization or maybe it's typical of Sarah supporters to need to over generalize. They seem to have so many other mental and personality disorders.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I do love how much you hate that being my tagline, you jerkoff.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
In 2008 Palin faced a $1.65 billion deficit in a $12.5 billion budget. Her solution - $280 million in spending cuts, coupled with withdrawing money from a state rainy-day fund to close the deficit. Why didn't she call for massive spending cuts? She also increased spending $5 billion in her last year in office, a 34% increase over FY2008. Sounds pretty liberal to me. Meanwhile, the current FY 2010 deficit is expected to be between $2 and $3 billion. So essentially she refused to make the tough decisions to reign in state spending and left the mess for her successor when she quit. Oh, and the 2009 stimulus bill provided $900 million to the state, allowing the state to reduce projected job cuts by 6,000. And unemployment in the state increased 1.5% during her last year in office.
This reminds me of how Destro brought up that due to posters like Rotara and their lovely use of the English language on 4um it was likely that 4um would be banned in libraries around the US. And Christine got all upset over it and had Destro banned.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Is it true that he had some sort of mental meltdown recently?
Tool, are you repeating yourself? Is it that hard for you to acknowledge the jeopardy you put Stone in?
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
There was zero jeopardy, dipshit.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
Morning, baby *
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
Christine didn't used to be like that. I wonder what changed her.
Is it that hard for you to acknowledge the jeopardy you put Stone in? You need to stay away from Badeye, his obsessive need to confabulate is rubbing off on you.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Ah, so Stone over reacted when he iced the Tool for a few days?
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
Stone was in no more jeopardy from me adding the word "obese" than from any article that gets posted here. That is a fact. Deal with it. Or don't. You're an asshole who tries to overcompensate by being a bully...if there is anyone whom I care less about what they ***think*** than you at this point I'd be hard pressed to name them.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Of course he did, dipshit.
lol Completely right. It was the 4um retard and badeye joining forces to try and get war banned. They came pretty close too. I'm sure eventually they'll succeed and then stroll off into the cyber sunset with their chests puffed out in accomplishment.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
Why don't you tell us about YOUR part in that?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Sure. Up to 144 characters at a time.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Fredo, you wonderful wandering cement head, you're back from the oil soaked Gulf!!! Only YOU would see the wisdom of vacation in a place everyone is fleeing from. Well done, Dim One!!
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
You're welcome!
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
And yet you pretend Owe-bama's record deficits are of no importance? rotfl! Thanks GO65...you made me laugh. And displayed a level of hypocrisy that demonstrates how damaging Palin Derangement Syndrome actually is.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
False statement, ABBA. I stated I thought the punishment for what the dwarf did was appropriate. He'll eventually get his ass banned from here, you can see it coming. Just like its happened six other times in other forums, a one of em twice. Predictable as the sun rising in the east.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
How much of a Rocket Scientist does one have to be to figure that one out?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I don't mind at all, its an admission that 1) I got into your tiny brain, and you can't do a thing about it...and 2) you can't write your own tagline. (laughing) Poor ABBA.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Owe-bama tripled the deficit. Owe-bama DOUBLED the Unemployment rate. In 18 months. Yet you want to disparage Palin, even though she isn't governor of Alaska today? And give Owe-bama a pass? rotflmao! Keep digging, GO65!
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You're probably right. All he has to do is come out in support of evolution and an earth older than 6000 years and he's a goner.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
I'm seeing many ex Gulf vacationers on the local beaches. California tourism is hummming right along this summer. The place is packed!!! I don't remember Fred posting he was vacationing while down there. And gone for a whole three days. WOW Fred.... quite being so extravagant with your vacation time. Sarahdroids will think that a holiday weekend out of town is a vacation.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Really? While I'm still waiting for a fossil record to support Evolution, I know the earth is hundreds of millions of years old. I doubt I'll be banned for holding these views, or anyone else.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Palin doubled the deficit in her state as well. And the U.S. unemployment rate was 8.1% when Obama took office. It's now 9.5% Math isn't a strong suite of yours there Badeye.
You're introducing a level of reality to where none may exist.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Obsessive and over rationalization, another Sarahdroid trait.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Ah, WRONG. It was just over 6% when Owe-bama took over. The projected deficit is now almost 14 TRILLION. And yet you fixate on Palin? Game, set and match, GO65. PDS makes you look ridiculous here. More Americans are unemployed under Owe-bama than under any other President in US History. The nation HAS NEVER BEEN THIS FAR IN DEBT. And Owe-bama did it in 16 months.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Kookie! lol
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I don't know what normal is down there for the 4th of July, but from my point of view it was packed with tourists and locals. It was quite a shock to my normal, hum-drum rural lifestyle.
You'll be waiting forever for that to happen. Genetics is where the action is these days.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
The unemployment rate when Bush left Office was 7.1%. Remember how President tar ball promised it wouldn't go above 8% if he could get his porkulus package?
I bet. Those illegals are baby machines!!
Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz
Palin and McCain gave us Obama.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
California tourism is hummming {sp} right along this summer. The place is packed!!! I bet. Those illegals are baby machines!! Then they must be coming from your neck of the woods if license plates are any indication. But heh, the truth wouldn't matter to a good solid Sarahdroid like yourself.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
7.7% and it was above 8% in February.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
The beaches here were packed with people with out of state plates. It took nearly an hour for the fireworks traffic to clear this year, and access for the "locals" was damn near impossible unless you camped out on the beach starting at 6:00 a.m. or so. There were so many illegal fireworks going off it was hard to tell which was the pro show and which was the amateurs.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
January, 2009: Source: BLS Any way you measure it, Badeye's claim that unemployment under Obama has doubled, is patently false.
I didn't post this thread, sorry.
Yes, he was flat out wrong. I do remember folks like Krugman arguing that he was mistaken to devote so much of the stimulus to tax cuts in an effort to win Republican support. Krugman was correct.
Wrong. And even if your false claim was correct, 6+6 = 12, not 9.5 Again, your claim that unemployment doubled under Obama is false.
The liberals are afraid of Palin. They know she has the backing of normal Americans. Oh and there is a term to describe those fags who use that made up word you mentioned. They are normaphobes. Or moralphobes.
I know. The fact it hasn't been found yet indicates something most don't want to consider.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I see it as Huckabee gave us McCain, Palin was the only way McCain could get the GOP's base to show up.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Krugman argued for a stim twice the size of what we got as well as, I believe from what I've read of his anyway, keeping open ended the tax credits that were consumer targetted. I was reading some analysts over the weekend trying to gauge what monetary velocity is doing...the consensus [if there is one] is that it is around 1.35 which is absolutely horrible. There was a huge drop off in mid 2007 but it bottomed and stayed somewhat level around mid 2008, ticked up slightly during the Summer and Fall of '09 [stim kicking in] and has since ticked down again. It should be averaging around 1.85 to sustain the recovery. Bottom line...we're getting another stim.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I'm not worried about being in jeopardy. I just want honest links to honest articles. I know you said you wont do it again, and I believe you.
Invite some of them to post here.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
March 19, 2010: Palin is the GOP's George McGovern.
Tell that to the record number of unemployed, GO65. Its much closer to 20% nationally than 10%. Back to the topic, you bash Palin using unemployment numbers for Alaska, and bash her for state deficits, but you have no problem with record numbers of Americans being unemployed and record deficits run up by Owe-bama and company. That makes you a hypocrite, GO65. No other way to say it.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I know and you should. That doesn't satisfy the site owners of two other competing forums who post here tho.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Nope, but PDS caused you to make a serious mistake on this thread, and now you look ridiculous.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
How do you know that?
Nah. I will just point out the truth.
No it isn;'t...but given you think Palin's unemployment numbers were soooo terrible, and the state deficit sooooo terrible under her governorship...you loook RIDICULOUS defending Owe-bama's numbers in the same catagories on this thread. Its both amusing, and sad at the same time.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I know the earth is hundreds of millions of years old. How do you know that? Beyond the existing know fossile record? The existing and known science of geology? Stone, its not debatable. The science is 'known quantity'.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
April 2010: Yes, it indicates it's remarkable that we've found as much as we have. Most species were never preserved as fossils because they weren't vertebrates, because the evidence was destroyed by hundreds of millions of years earth's dynamics, or because they're located in areas that are inaccessible to researchers. Because the people who study evolution for a living are smart enough to know these things, they've turned to indirect methods for research.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
At this point in the 2000 race, Jeb Bush was the odds on favorite. Polls like this are meaningless til after the 1st of next year.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
No, you'll point out your religious superstitions and pretend they're truth. It's a lot easier to do that than actually think.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
OK, how is going from 7.6% to 9.5% "doubling" Is this some sort of new math you use in your alternative universe where Exxon and Mobile (sic) are separate companies and Shell is a U.S. owned company?
That's about what it was at the time he was elected. And since Bush was pretty much out of the picture and Obama was already in charge of the "Office of President Elect" working with his fellow demon Congressional Democrats, I don't think it's a reach to declare Obama being "in charge" at that time.
Polls like this are meaningless til after the 1st of next year. Agreed, thought historically one can't overcome negatives as high as Palin's among members of their own party.
While true, the existing fossil record does go back tens of millions of years, and debunks the quaint notion the earth is 5,000 years old. We find fossils on our property that go back tens of millions of years, without lookin for them. Their everywhere in our stream bed. Literally have bowls of them on display in the house on end tables.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Wha...chuckle...huh? Is it your argument that the economy had upward momentum up until the point Obama was elected?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I didn't think she'd be the nominee in 2012 anyway.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Locally the illegal fireworks were way down this year. A good thing because the dry grass is still real high in places and ready to burn. But the town and the Vets' home both put on great displays and jammed the poor highway and frontage roads.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
I was reading some analysts over the weekend trying to gauge what monetary velocity is doing...the consensus [if there is one] is that it is around 1.35 which is absolutely horrible. There was a huge drop off in mid 2007 but it bottomed and stayed somewhat level around mid 2008, ticked up slightly during the Summer and Fall of '09 [stim kicking in] and has since ticked down again. It should be averaging around 1.85 to sustain the recovery. Bottom line...we're getting another stim. Not in this political climate. We're heading for a reverse stimulus where states are slashing budgets and the federal government will also be forced to reign in spending. The end result will be more unemployment, and if Ireland is a guide, no change in the deficit as tax revenue drops offset any spending cuts. It's going to be really really ugly. Welcome to the reality of tea party politics espoused by those who lack any understanding of economics.
You post a lot of dumb stuff, but that's definitely near the top.
The 'real' numbers were closer to 9% and 18% respectively, GO65. The 'gaming' of unemployment numbers by the Federal government is well documented. The only thing measured is who has time left out of the 99 weeks of available unemployment as you know. Last month, 650,000 saw their unemployment benefits run out, as you know. And they were not COUNTED in the official numbers. If they were not removed, the 'official' number would have jumped to 10.2 And that doesn't account for well over 2 million unemployed, and without UE benefits left. But hey, mock Palin for state unemployment numbers....(chuckle)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Irony alert. Wait til the tax hike on January 1st, courtesy of Pelosi, Reid, and Owe-bama.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Obama was establishing his agenda with Congressional Democrats from the day he was elected and that's just a fact.
Is it your argument that the economy had upward momentum up until the point Obama was elected? I'm getting dizzy from all the spin here today. I wonder why we needed that first McCain voted for and approved TARP bailout monies then?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
It had upward momentum until The Democrats had control of Congress -- a mistake that will be remedied in 4 months.
The Juze probably spiked your coffee with something.
The economy started to slow in mid 2006.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
You sound anti-semetic. What's wrong with taking personal responsibility?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
So please explain to me how GOP control of the Congress, if it happens, will result in accelerated economic growth.
I expect the only cuts that will expire will be those on high income earners, putting them back to where they were during the Clinton expansion.
It's pretty clear that DCCC's - possibly Obama's - strategy is to put the GOP on the defensive about passing maeasures to help the unemployed and consumers.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
These are numbers you are making up, right?
Not true - the unemployment number is calculated by surveying households. If those 650,000 were actively looking for work they would be counted. The only way cutting those people off would affect the unemployment rate is if they weren't looking for jobs before they lost benefits, and started looking for them after benefits ended.
Yes, but it doesn't seem to be working. My read of the political climate now is that people want budget cuts, but few realize that cutting spending during a recession is suicidal.
Bush tax cuts not allowed to lapse. Health care reform repealed. Friendlier relations with small business. Hopefully the Kenyan can be impeached and convicted to overcome that tarball in on the beach.
I should have been clearer. It's going to be a package of targeted measures affecting housing and autos and water heater upgrades as well as extending the 2003 tax cuts to all but the top band and unemployment benefits. The GOP is going to trip up on the last two. There is nothing to cut, btw, unless it's defense.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Dear Dennis Miller, BULLSEYE.
That small business quote is a laugh! Since all the pubbies do is stack the deck infavor of LARGE businesses and corporations. Since some tax cuts lapse at the end of this year and the new Congress doesn't take office until 2011, how will that help? Assuming they are even interested in resurrecting them.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
And you need to re-bury your maw back into your second fifth of Gilbey's, you ignorant socialist twit.
My brother in law - a small business [LLC] owner - is up from FL and if I was following him correctly on Saturday [I don't talk politics at picnics with family], he was 100% opposed to HRC when it passed [he still states that it's not reform] but he's now come 180 degrees as he sees the tax advantages he is going to get. Meanwhile, he just switched carriers because Guardian, I think he said, tried to raise his premiums 23%. He switched to Aetna @ a 6% increase.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Health care reform repealed. Friendlier relations with small business. Bush tax cuts were in full effect during the economic collapse. Health care reform - Republicans have already backed away from repeal, and if they do succeed in repeal, then government spending on healthcare will increase even more Not sure what you mean with the later, most small businesses welcome the opportunity to reduce health care costs by buying through pools that's part of the reform you say they will repeal (it's also an idea first espoused by the Heritage Foundation). Really though, is that all you've got? Nothing more specific than that?
Typical of you whiney leftards. Always calling for and endorsing censorship! Especially of the truth. Only a partisan idiot like The Hag would characterize Dennis Miller as "an entertainer." I guess that's supposed to invalidate his eloquent beat-downs of the Left.
We had a 37% increase last year (before HIR), now we'll be able to buy via a pool which should reduce our costs.
Another Sarahdroid heard from. You really do need to renew your Lithium. LOLOL
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
THAT was what you call an "economic collapse"?? Then what exactly do you call 0bama's Obliteration, July 2010?? You're a bigger and more delusional nitwit than others have given you credit for.
I expect the only cuts that will expire will be those on high income earners, putting them back to where they were during the Clinton expansion. Where do you think venture capital comes from, GO65? Second, watch what happens in December when the great stock sell off takes place.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Would you care to refute any of Miller's claims, 0bamaBot? (hiccup)
No. Look around.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Wow. I think Owe-bama believes this too.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
National numbers don't support either statement.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Maintaining a unsustainable deficit is suicidal.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
His subjective claim that everyone who dares criticize Palin is afraid of her? That only Bipolar Sarahdroids believe? That's just too funny. What do you have against free speech? Is the political class always beyond reproach in your world?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
There are far worst things than Palin's attraction to "national politics" that are anathema to 0bama, aren't there? If she advocates the exact opposite of the Kenyan-Commie, and pumps up our side into a frenzy, I don't care if she becomes a billionaire.
We were told during the Bush administration not to believe our eyes, when those thousands of foreclosure signs went up.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
I think Owe-bama believes this too. You really don't have the slightest clue as to how the unemployment rate is calculated, do you? Start here: Ok. Maybe only the Left's critics fear Palin; Those on the Right who criticize her do so on ideological grounds. What do you have against free speech? No, the question is rather what your Commie Prez and his Dem congress have against it.
That's true. But our deficit is unsustainable over the long-term, not the short term. Cutting short-term spending now will only lead to greater unemployment and reduced economic activity as the Ireland example underscores. The trick is to reduce spending/deficit during growth, something the GOP forgot when they inherited a growing economy and a surplus.
Was there no venture funding in the 1990's before the cuts? Want to compare venture spending then and now?
You mean like Kommie Katie,Baba WaWa,Georgette Stephanopolis,John Stewart,and Diane whatsherface from ABC? Of course not; THEY are "legitimate news sources." Bwaahaa! I'll bet MiningGold went into severe depression once Leftist tools Rather, Jennings, and Brokaw were replaced.
If you want to get Obama out you need a viable alternative. Sarah isn't it, something I would not expect you droids to ever understand. But keep acting like you have a case of the terminal nasties, it really helps your candidate. Remember... the new rule set in 2008 is that the candidate is the sum total of the actions of their supporters. So hiccup away.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
It was something that they have promised to do every election cycle... It's a promise that they have failed to keep every election cycle... Why anyone ***thinks*** that putting the GOP back in office will not be a re- exacerbation of the problem thet they have brought us EVERY TIME they have governed is a puzzler for sure...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Keep in mind these are the same folks who nominated McCain.
It sure is a ROFLMAO moment when (barefoot, dumb, AND drunk?) Lefties like you deny the claim. Yes, F-E-A-R. Because the Right LOVES her. Relates to her. Is inspired by her... Because Palin's words are hung on to and quoted like no one on the Right. Only SHE has been able to ridicule hang 0bama on his own stupid words and policy. WITH IMPUNITY. Miller notes: The media launched a D-Day scale invasion of Alaska. Its mission was not to report, but to search and destroy. Every nook and cranny of Palin's life and anyone and everyone associated with her was scrutinized. Nothing was off limits: having five children was improper, her children's names were ridiculed, her fifth child was portrayed as her grandchild, and her everyday life was depicted as trailer trash. The universal talking point was the vice presidential candidate is not only barefoot and pregnant, Palin is dumb.... Palin wrote a book that sold 2.2 million copies and, much to the New York Times' chagrin, was on its Bestseller List for 11 weeks. The Associated Press had eleven fact checkers dissect each word of her book... Wendy Doniger, a professor at Chicago Divinity School, wrote "Her (Palin) greatest hypocrisy is her pretense that she is a woman." (sniff) THAT'S the stench of F-E-A-R, war.
Your nasty behavior on public forums would have Sarah's approval I presume.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
How about my left nut? OR, a non-Marxist America citizen who's doesn't hate America and knows WTF he/she is actually doing? Keep acting like you have a case of the terminal nasties, it really helps your candidate. Projecting? We don't give a rat's ass WHAT you think. There are two sides in this war. I really don't GAS about reality-detached pods like you who are on the wrong side of right.
Democrats are evil and Palin is a light of truth on their evil ways. It is sickening that you support a murdering piece of shit like Obama. Are you brain damaged? Stop. You're treating dwarf like a voodoo doll. :-D
He's just another dipshit from the dying LP looking for attention. Is the yucktard here yet, after getting his head slapped by Goldi today?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
No, of course not. You'll only be shilling for his Commie azz during every one of his 1460 days of destructive Hopey & Changey.
Skippy - Your irrelevance is ubiquitous.
Luberator's about the worst current example of someone searching for validation and acceptance on forums. Sickening to watch.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
There do seem to be a number of cuckoo's nest regulars here today.
But then again, so are flush-toilets.
If I could, I would. Were they in Kenya in 1961?
If I could, I would. True.
They inherited a declining economy and a dot com bubble burst.
But I thought he was the canary. I thought Goldi knew who to ban by how they treated Yuckster. I notice he's absent over there. He must have hurt feelings, the little asswipe.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
And busted the budget with massive tax cuts, medicare Part D, and a trillion dollar war in Iraq, without paying for any of it.
Lol - Skippy and Abu el-Bonzo sitting in a tree... Between the two of you yentas, neither has made a salient point worthy of contemplation in all the time you've polluted this forum. That's quite impressive.
HA! And another drip from the bowels of 0bama's Fan Club emerges. Contribution: ZERO. How apropos.
The GOP had been in power in the legislature since 1995. The slowdown was precipitated by a gross overraction by Alan Greenspan in removing Y2K liquidity as well as a slowdown, overall, of Y2K spending across both public and private sectors.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Fred, have you pinged dwarf yet with a chat-update on how over-done your toast was at the IHOP?
Did Nurse Ratched get angry again?
Sure you were.... Meanwhile, in the year 2010, foreclosures are over 360,000 per month under the current regime.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I'm uniquely aware of the shell game, thanks.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Want to compare venture spending then and now? No, I want to compare to next year, around May 1st. Citing numbers from two decades ago in support of this insanity, well...its insane. There is no valid comparision given the unemployment rate, the fear and uncertainty among business owners and investors.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
www.youtube.com/watch? v=UztW6L57pB0 I just stumbled upon this one...
The trick is to reduce spending/deficit during growth, something the GOP forgot when they inherited a growing economy and a surplus. The trick is to make Americans believe Owe-bama knows what he's doing related to the economy. It isn't working. Look around.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Irony alert.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Good luck convincing folks to return to the red: lol, fuck off Lube. Go find a post of yours worth reading. There aren't any.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
Irony alert.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Graphs don't impress record numbers of Americans unemployed, or the one's that have taken pay cuts, or the ones that have lost their homes, or been forced into bankruptcy.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
ABBA! (laughing) So mean spirited today.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
They've tried to convince the voters that a member of the minority party is soley responsible for the implosion of the housing market. The GOP has nothing...3 times they've run their plays from the standard playbook and three times the results have been the same...increased debts and deficits. Did you know in Boy Blunder's first budget message he claimed that he could cut taxes to the tune of $1.6trillion AND pay down $1trillion in debt?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Chuckles...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
She's become a 9/11 truther now, and yucktard was giving other truther's crap, so she told him to knock it off or leave. I wonder if he'll abdicate his position again?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
That was a classic!!!
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
So the cuckoos are starting to eat their own?
Not very witty. Or funny. Just boring. Meh.
(laughing) That is amusing...too long, but amusing.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Yeah - Let's all develop severe cases of amnesia about the economy during Bush Years, while stroking ourselves silly over the fantasmic 0bama Washington Propaganda Post graph.
Bzzzt...most forward looking indicators were in obvious slowdown by the Fall of 2006.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
That's the problem with continually exercising power. At some point, you HAVE to turn on your own...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
It's hard to keep up. The only constant there is that Goldi continues to push the envelope of extreme paranoia. It looks like crazy old McCain_Rocks is on her hitlist too.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
You have to realize, if you don't already, that all of those comments are real ones from a single day at LP.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
May be I was just there too long and not away long enough to appreciate it.
Sounds as if someone (YOU) lives vicariously through others. Sad, really. Pet your gerbil. It cares.
I agree with you, we should remember the Bush economy, especially 2007.
We should all try [if we can] to GET OFF THE GRID. That way they can no longer control us. (as much) Goldi-Lox posted on 2010-07-06 13:48:51 ET Reply Trace If I could still post there, I'd suggest that if she's serious the first thing to do is shut down her website. Maybe lubricator could do it for me.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. How do the pods here NOT notice all this? And then they ignore Kingy 0bammmy's $800 billion "Stimulus" boondoggle stolen from American taxpayers that were funneled into Unions, "Community Organizer" fronts, and slush funds for certain politician and Leftist corporations. 0bama tears down, and his dopey minions coo and call it "Hope & Change."
Get off the grid? Is that Moonbat code for something?
She's really losing it.
The "Boy Blunder" economy was as illusory as it was fleeting. It was all on borrowed monoey itself being leveraged into even more borrowd money. You had debt layering working its way to the household level. The economy was fairly unrobust until 2004 but then by mid 2006 was running out of fuel again...
Is that Moonbat code for something? I didn't post her whole quote. Right above that one she said the Matrix movies are real - kinda.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Oh...she reminds me of a cough syrup junkie...
You mean like pretending to be an F-16 fighter pilot? That kind of pretending? Hey, Lube, better pass along my suggestion to Goldi about how to get off the grid.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Every now and again I'm hit with the absolutely horrible thought that Gump may be right about her...but then I rationalize that if he is then it's in the third person...
I know. Its no different than it was in 07.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
This year to date makes 2007 look good. And I'd love to be in ANY YEAR between 1997 and 2007, rather than this one. So would everybody else with any common sense.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
If. Bwaahaa! "Dear Goldi, "Though I read Liberty Post with great interest and fascination; and though I obsess over it and your posts, the first thing I'd wish for is...shutting down your forum. But since I don't have a Magic Genie, or aren't 0bama's Internet Czar, I'll just have to settle for the fantasy....and wanking myself silly as usual." Love, Skippy-Doo
VRRRRROOOOMMM!!! But now I'm a B-24 Liberator bomber pilot!
They know its the truth. What it tells you is where they were financially BEFORE all this started. Think about it for a moment, you'll see it clearly.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
The fact is any rational person would take ANY YEAR under Bush over this year to date. And its going to be much worse next year after the tax hikes kick in on January 1st.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Hey, Lube, Badeye posted to you!!!! Quick, post something back that indicates you and him are good friends. Maybe it'll take!!
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
What it tells you is where they were financially BEFORE all this started. Think about it for a moment, you'll see it clearly. Misery does love company, doesn't it?
Felat-o-rator is also pretending that he isn't a closet sausage gobbler...
No!! More than that. Maybe make up a quaint nickname for him that show's you are buds. Quick!!
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
Keyword: "Rational." I'm not sure if the 0bamaBots are masochists or sadists, but they are dopey, avaricious, covetous, intellectually dishonest. Its going to be much worse next year after the tax hikes kick in on January 1st. I wonder if a new 0bamaian version of Carter's "Misery Index" will be dusted off?
yukon responds. #101. To: Goldi-Lox (#69) It's the dissinformation-specialists that ridicule them. Is that you? I'm not a flat-earther, paranoid, Israeli firster, conspiracy theorist or disinformation specialist. I actually research subjects using credible sources before posting. yukon posted on 2010-07-06 14:35:25 ET Reply Trace This is going to be a good week.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Isn't it fun watching two Moonbats fight over the keys to the Rubber Room?
Yes, that's better. Use lots of big words. Hey, how about calling him 'Bad'? You know, like an abbreviation of his name. "Hey, Bad, you and I understand this situation like a couple of old friends" Something like that!!
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
Sure does. They never seem to realize its their mindset that put them into their personal straits in the first place, by and large.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Projecting your homoerotica once again. How un-predictable (bwaahaa!) The "closet sausage gobbler" would be you, Mr. Bozo Filter. And everyone knows it.
He's starting out strong!
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
Your mother let you have too much sugar today, eh ABBA? (laughing)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
that boy has some serious issues....
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
So you'd rather have 2001 over this year? Seriously?
Buy hey - just as long as everyone else get taken down, or out...What do they care? When you're on the dole, or a Leftist "Independent" believing your standard of living is untouchable or unaffected, why not pray for creative and productive conservatives to crash and burn? What a perverted way to look at life. But that who and what they are.
Ya think?? LOL...
As it relates to the economy? HELL YES.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
They don't understand the long term implications as it pertains to them. That much is exceedingly obvious.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
So you would be far happier then if the DJIA was sitting in the mid-6000's again and our financial system was teetering on the edge of collapse while even Conservatives were arguing for $800 billion bailouts? It seems that your biggest complaint is that the economy isn't doing poorly enough for you.
If only "I shot down 3 MIGS" Mad Dog would join in it would be perfect.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
It seems that your biggest complaint is that the economy isn't doing poorly enough for you. Yes, I would. Especially if those in Congress had the 20/20 hindsight they have today. Any way you cut it, GO65, any previous year would be better than this year to date over the past 30 years. The numbers don't lie.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
"Felat-o-rator is also pretending that he isn't a closet sausage gobbler..." dwarf posted on 2010-07-06 14:33:26 ET The forum has been put on notice that dwarf pinged only you, Skippy, to his "closet sausage gobbler" comment. Do you have a secret?
Has he backtracked from that claim yet?
That's the campaign that the GOP has been running, dude.
I don't think so, but then he hasn't posted in a while either. I kind of miss him. It's not every poster who can work the word "c^nt" into every sentence, sometimes even two or three times.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
The Liberal/Left believes the American system, capitalism, Daddy, and the conservative traditions of our country have screwed them or left them outcasts. Look at the Leftist dolts here; They are social outcasts and misfits. This is about revenge. And Payback. ANY price is the price they're willing to pay to see a meritocratic America messed up and ruined.
Yeah, his last postings were his meltdown ones. Hopefully he's getting appropriate mental health care. It may be some time until he can earn Internet posting privileges where ever he is.
So you would be far happier then if the DJIA was sitting in the mid-6000's again In 2007, the Dow was around 14,000.
Shhhhh....(chuckle)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Looks like he didn't get the help he needed. He just showed up again with another doozy:
And then there is your boyfriend (or is it Fred's wife?) Dwarf who manages to work the words "suck" or "dick" or "sausage" or "gobbler" into his posts. Just for the hell of it. (wink, wink)
Yep, and they can't seem to understand 'Daddy's pockets' are empty.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Finally! Dow finishes above 14,000 July 19 2007 http://money.cnn.com/2007/07/19/markets/markets_530/index.htm
#267. To: Judge Parkers Daughter (#263) LOL! You mean like the dependents of the "modern" US armed forces are so "honored" by YOU representing them, you ignorant vile fat a$$ed dishonorable b!tch? You see you fat a$$ed dishonorable b!tch, I speak only for myself. I don't presume to speak for anybody else unlike you b!tch. MY service is listed, where's YOUR service b!tch? Not your daddy's, or your family's, or your husband's ... Get the picture yet b!tch? Of course you don't. Mad Dog posted on 2010-07-06 15:18:18 ET Reply Trace Hmm. Looks like b!tch is his word of the day now. It's always good to see what passes for civil discourse on Goldi's site.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Its interesting GO65 found 2007 so terrible, eh? (laughing)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
yep, you are right. I meant 2008.
Should I use your logic and argue that a higher DJIA is meaningless?
i'd like to say i miss it there, but
Putting aside the issue that Biden will never be confused with Albert Einstein, he trounced her.
Happy hour came early today?
If I could, I would. Got your wad of Kleenex handy? Hey, how about calling him 'Bad'? You know, like an abbreviation of his name. "Hey, Bad, you and I understand this situation like a couple of old friends" Something like that!! Hey "Bad," check out Abu el-Boring's new cheap thrill!
If my 'argument' was based only on DJIA you could. 2007 was a great year, especially compared to 2010. Which of course was what we were discussing. Figure thats concluded now.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Happy hour came early today? Lol - poor Fred.
ABBA can't even write his own taglines....(laughing) But like dwarf, can't seem to get through a day without me. I think its catching...
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
2007 was a great year, especially compared to 2010. Which of course was what we were discussing. Figure thats concluded now. Ooops. That didn't turn out well for iq65. By ANY measurement or indicator, the 0bama's present and future economy = Helen Thomas, while Dubya's = Miss America. It fun to watch liberals convince the sane otherwise though.
And 2010 was a great year, compared to 2008. Agreed?
All the polls said Biden won. Except of course those of GOP'rs.
Biden just talked out his ass and made shit up (like he always does). President Tarball chose him because at least he can say he's smrter than his VP. ____ By contrast, Senator Biden was glib and fluent and in command of the facts — if by “in command of the facts” you mean “talks complete blithering balderdash and hogwash.” He flatly declared that Obama never said he would meet Ahmadinejad without preconditions. But, on Debate Night, the official Obama website was still boasting that he would meet Ahmadinejad “without preconditions”. He said America spends more in a month in Iraq than it’s spent in seven years in Afghanistan. Er, America has spent over $700 billion in Afghanistan since 2001. It’s spending about $10 billion a month in Iraq. But no matter. To demonstrate his command of the “facts”, Senator Biden sportingly offered up his own instant replays: “My friend John McCain voted 422 times against tax cuts for the middle classes. Let me repeat that so the American people are clear on this. My friend John McCain voted 673 times against tax cuts for the middle classes.” http://article.nationalreview.com/373861/with-a-wink-and-a-smile/mark-steyn
2007 was a great year, especially compared to 2010. And 2010 was a great year, compared to 2008. Hardly. That was several million lost jobs ago. Remember? And several million lost homes due to foreclosure, several hundred bank failures... 1st Rule of Holes is now in effect, GO65. You should stop.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Its a waste of time. The ugly truth is 2010 is the worst year as it relates to the economy since the Carter Era, and in many ways is much much worse. There is no spinning it. Its sad to see anyone even try.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
But like dwarf, can't seem to get through a day without me. I think its catching... Even if ABBA-Doo could write his/her/its own tagline, it would be embarrassingly lame. Ya know - with as much time and energy as it, dwarf, Skid-mark Intro spend obsessing over your every word, I believe they secretly admire and envy your success.
I don't seem to recall any polls saying The Dumbest Man in the Senate 'winning' that debate.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I think its the latter. Skippy doesn't hang on every word like the other two...and as the forum has seen over the months, the dwarf is in a league of his own....(laughing) ABBA just wants to belong, so he tags along for the ride, kinda like a little bratty brother.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
HA! Think you pegged it, "Bad": "Dwarf's Bratty Brother."
Poll respondents give Sen. Joe Biden the edge over Gov. Sarah Palin in ability to express views. The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. said 51 percent of those polled thought Biden did the best job, while 36 percent thought Palin did the best job. But respondents said the folksy Palin was more likable, scoring 54 percent to Biden's 36 percent. Seventy percent said Biden was more of a typical politician. Both candidates exceeded expectations -- 84 percent of the people polled said Palin did a better job than they expected It was mixed. I don't think those polled took into account that Biden was just making up what he was saying.
Agreed? Can you possibly be THIS nuts?
True. The MSM was covering for Owe-bama, didn't want HIM to look bad for picking an idiot as his VP.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
He just does as he's told.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Considering those polled possess an IQ of (ahem) 65, and Biden hasn't stopped shilling/bullsh*tting about 0bama, the economy, and whatever, all that matters for the Left is trudging out bogus polls results through the usual propaganda outlets.
He's a well-strung puppet.
In 2008, unemployment started at 5% and ended at 7.4% The Dow did fall from about 12,000 to about 8,000. I'll leave it to you to compare that to 2010.
There you go again, inserting facts where none are desired....
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Unemployment rose 50% and the Dow lost 25% of it's value. I'll leave it to you to compare that to 2010. 2010 is a better year.
Chyeah, dwarf... And that big-t*tted blonde with the LARGE Adam's Apple, HUGE veiny hands and hairy legs in heels is...a woman.
And it was still at least 2 full points higher than it has been all of 2010. By your logic, if unemployment rises from 1 to 1.5%, it has been a catastrophic year economically.
Yeah,but other than a few areas,she doesn't. The only real difference between what Barry Soetoro is doing and what John McLunatic would be doing if he were the president is in the effectiveness. McLunatic would be FAR worse because he has favors owed to him and has a lot of political experience that would keep him from making the boneheaded blunders that Barry is making. And Palin seems to live up McLunatic's ass.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
ROFLMAO! Good one!
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
There is no proof the earth is old. The proof is to the contrary. Give me an example of something you know of that proves the earth is old. Go ahead I'm patiently waiting.
Stone, its not debatable. The science is 'known quantity'. What fossil proves or even suggests the earth is billions of years old? What geological evidence is there that suggests the earth is billions or millions of years old? Ever heard of the creation museum in Kentucky?
Read a geology book. Learn how radiometric dating methods work and how they're used. Or believe creation myths if that works for you. It really doesn't matter to me.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
They are hardly confirmable (such as measuring a gravity accelleration constant). Maybe you need to read some books.
I'm still waiting on an answer. Can't you back up your big proclamations?
Whatever you say. So how old is the earth, and what's your source?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
They are hardly confirmable (such as measuring a gravity accelleration constant). Maybe you need to read some books. He is afraid to answer. He knows he can't make the case and his arguments will get slapped down.
Not unless you're willing to do a little work on your own. Really, we may as well be arguing about whether the sun rises in the west or the east.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
I did answer. I'm just not willing to waste my time trying to explain things to people who have no intention of listening.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Really, we may as well be arguing about whether the sun rises in the west or the east. That isn't proof. Do you have any proof? If you don't. That's ok. You can just say you believe that. I guess it's ok to believe things without proof if you want.
I think we can probably agree that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. You do know that I assume?
Well, that's a start. Now why don't you tell me how old the earth is and why? BTW, how old is the moon?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
You said the earth was millions. Back it up. Quit trying to turn the table.
I said it's billions of years old. It took people thousands of years to finally figure that out. I'm not going to try to teach you on a chat site. If you're really curious, look for yourself. It's not like it's a government secret.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
You mean like unemployment doubling?
So how old is the earth, and what's your source? Such as the chip off the block son of the Hobbit King of the Paultards did, I would have to shrug my shoulders. There are very scientific alternative ideas should you choose to pursue them. I can provide you with such if you are too lazy to do so.
Oh, you've got "alternative ideas"? How about testable theories? Got any of those?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Sounds like your religion is evolution. You can't explain it you just believe it but don't know why. Even though all science says it didn't happen. Sad so many in our society fall pray to stupid arguments and don't even look into it. I pity you.
Even though all science says it didn't happen. How'd you get from the age of the earth to evolution? All science? What, exactly, do you know about science?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Because all you guys use circular reasoning to justify your faith in outdated dogma. Are you saying you don't believe in evolution?
Of course I do. What do you believe in?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Of course I do. What do you believe in? Do you believe in punctuated equilibrium as opposed to traditional Darwinism?
I believe in gene-centered evolution, but since I'm not trained as an evolutionary biologist that's just my opinion, not a rigid dogma.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
How old do you think this Earth is?
He's busy counting up the 'begats'.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Thousands not millions. That is what ALL the evidence indicates. Do you have some evidence to the contrary?
So you think it is ok to fuck monkeys? Afterall you think you came from them. Do you want a banana?
Is that supposed to be clever? Do you fuck monkeys?
No one believes that we "came from them" and to state that underscores an ignorance of evolution. What is believed, and for which there is overwhelming evidence, is that at some point in the cycle, homo sapiens and simiiformes trace back to some form of pre-Hominidae form but from which both homo sapien and simiformes split separate and distinctive.
By your logic there is no logic. 5% to 7.5% is a significant increase no matter how you spin it. 1% to 1.5% is not.
The gradualism of what you refer to as "traditional Darwinism" was always held suspect even by his peers. The evidence for punctuated equilibrium is much more compelling.
Yep. I have fossils on my property here far older than what fundementalist Christians claim is the earth's age, Stone.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
btw, I said millions, not billions.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
It has doubled.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Only if you make up your own data Badeye.
Tell it to the record number of unemployed Americans TODAY. Good luck.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Not a problem.
To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye
And it's still significantly less than 10%, which was the actual argument.
PUNCTUATED EQUILIBRIUM An ad hoc hypothesis or alibi that claims the reason there are no known transitional forms in the fossil record is because evolutionary changes occur so quickly and the reason we can't see evolutionary changes in the laboratory is because they occur so slowly. (because some people will believe anything)
Unemployment went where it did from the momentum that had been estblished during Boy Blunder's last years in office. To argue otherwise is reveal a significant deficit in having a clue.
"Punctuated equilibrium" is a rapid change in a species that orginates locally and then extends as groups interbreed causing speciation. It does not belie the existence of transitional fossils.
That wasn't the argument, so I am not even going to get into that discussion. Stay on topic.
ABBA! I make up your tag lines! (roaring with laughter)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I'm not sure how evolution got entered here (By skippy or stone, I guess), and I don't want to go here, really, but folks who want to talk about evolution as some kind of useful "science," make me laugh. PE was started late ’70’s by a group of evolutionists who tried to resurrect the idea that evolution happened in big jumps. It was proposed to explain why the links required by gradual evolution have never been found. But the “big jumpers” were never able to explain how these big jumps could occur genetically, nor could they answer the crucial question about the first appearance of any "hopeful-monster": with what would it mate? It's like global warming; they just make shit up to explain why they are always wrong.
Chuckles...sure it was...the "argument" was how was the economy that Obama inherited from your hero.
Sure they did. Stop reading whackjob creationist sites which blatantly LIE about what science, i.e. evolutionary biology, has discovered. Then you can pick up a science magazine. They've been dumbed down over the last few years with you in mind. You'd also learn that there is a similar body of theory, well supported, which is called "Quantum Evolution".
The argument was which was a worse year economically to live in -- 2008 or 2010.
2010 by any measure.
That was clearly settled.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Sure they did. So you will have no problem describing precisely how this is supposed to have happened? The only answer ever given is more bullshit speculative theories that have zero usefulness in the real world. For the record, the wackos you refer to fully believe in adaptation and speciation. They just don't believe in the bullshit. They will fully accept the idea that Poodles, German Shepherds, coyotes and foxes have a common ancestor. However there is nothing to support the idea that poodles and leopards, much less tunas do. Other than bullshit speculation, that is.
2010 by any measure. So for all your machinations to the contrary, it all boils down to your agreeing with badeye over goat boy on the matter?
I'm not an evolutionary biologist. Feel free to explain to me how to install a 6 inch ducted oven fan including running the line from the electric service. Thanks. For the record, the wackos you refer to fully believe in adaptation and speciation. No they don't and you just proved that they don't. Given that "life" at the onset was one amino acid chain bumping into another, it's a given that there is a common origin of ALL species. Reagan shared 98.4% of his DNA with his buddy Bonzo. There is no way that happens without common origin.
I have no idea what that means.
No they don't and you just proved that they don't. Uh, yes they do, and they believe in it adamantly to support their faith. For example: _______________________________________ Q: Can speciation occur quickly? A: If the account of Noah’s Ark in the Bible is true, then two of every kind of land animal (and seven of some) came off Noah’s Ark in the Middle East. For instance, two members of the dog kind walked off the Ark. Then, as the number of dogs increased, eventually the population split up and different groups formed. As the gene pool was split up, different combinations of genes—inherited from the original dogs—would end up in different groups. Thus, different species would form, such as dingoes, wolves, and so on. Evolutionists have often insisted that such a process happens slowly, and therefore, the Bible can’t be right when it says that the land animals came off the Ark only about 4,300 years ago. But in the journal Science, a report stated: “These examples say that natural selection can cause a population to change very quickly and hint that speciation could [occur] very quickly …” Once again, true operational science confirms the biblical history. The account of Noah’s Ark in the Bible fits with real observations, including natural selection and speciation. http://www.answersingenesis.org/e-mail/archive/AnswersWeekly/2007/0721.asp
Do you fuck monkeys? Does you pastor know you entertain those ideas? What's with your nasty BS everytime you're caught in a corner? Do you let your children read this forum? Have you ever heard of Prions?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
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Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
The dogs were already there and the animals were taken in mostly 7's according to Genesis. As I said, you're reading whackjob sites which make no sense.
already where? the animals were taken in mostly 7's The writer said some were taken in 7s. It was only "clean" animals, and these were presumably taken in greater numbers for food purposes. Since there are a lot more unclean than clean, the vast majority were taken in pairs. Dogs, being unclean, would have been taken as just a pair.
Existed in more than one form...the passage says "every beast".
Existed in more than one form...the passage says "every beast". Since the passage is not specific as to what "every beast (or animal)" means, one can only speculate as to what it does. The Bible refers to animals as to "kinds." Two "canines" would fit this requirement. Good "wacko" discussion here: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v4/n1/species-change
More Jewish mythology. Written so it can be interpreted a hundred ways thereby keeping the focus on the Old rather than the New Testament.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Here...on earth...which according to Genesis they came "from the earth"...
Exactly. And there is a possibility that since it is known the ancient Semetic people ATE dogs, that they may have been considered clean by Noah who, having lived before Abraham and Moses. was pre-Leviticus and kosher law. This conversation is akin to arguing how much of the witch's house in Hansel and Gretel was cookies and how much was candy.
You're even stupider than I thought.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
It isn't. End of story.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
The author of the Book Of Genesis certainly knew what clean and unclean was, even if it didn't exist at the time of Noah and was simply giving accounts off God's commandment. Clean and unclean animals only mean one thing anywhere in the Bible. It's certainly possible Noah was eating dog, because after they exited the ark, God specifically gave them the freedom to eat of all animals. Although, if he pointedly gave them such freedom at that time, it would tend to imply they didn't have such freedom before.
But Noah didn't.
Who was the author and when was it written?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
He wouldn't have to. Moses knew what Noah was ordered to do even if Noah didn't know he was being ordered to separately enumerate clean and unclean animals. But then again, how did we know that Noah didn't know? After all, there was some law that he was following that separated him from the wicked. There was no 10 commandments then either.
How come God was so chatty back in the day, but hasn't had a thing to say for over 2000 years?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Generally acknowledged to Moses around 1450 BC
Whom would YOU rather marry...Mrs. Claus or the Tooth Fairy?
What does the Tooth Fairy look like?
I always imagined that Tinker Bell moonlighted as the Tooth Fairy.
He must have unchose us.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
End of work day buzz...
I think he's just fickle. His new favorites are the Muslims.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Maybe we all have to wait our turn. I think the Chinese are next for most favored people status.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
I think He got tired of the arguing over who He loves best.
Do you fuck monkeys? Does you pastor know you entertain those ideas? What's with your nasty BS everytime you're caught in a corner? Do you let your children read this forum? Have you ever heard of Prions? It is your position that monkeys procreated humans. Again do monkeys turn you on?
I'm flattered that you look at me as an expert on these matters. But I honestly don't have the exact reason. I think it is something to do with it is not the appointed time.
You're even stupider than I thought. You said you put your faith in evolution. Evolution falsely teaches that we come from monkeys. So you shouldn't have a problem with the question. Again do you fuck monkeys? If you don't, do you think it would be acceptable and if not why.
You're a proven liar and deceiver. I say you are lying again. Put up the lies the creationists say or be caught in another lie.
Well...that's a lie. The entirety of Genesis is a lie and Moses is a myth stolen from the Babylonians.
If I were like you, I'd call you a lair. I'm not. You're just not very well informed. Evolution does NOT teach that we come from monkeys.
Again do you fuck monkeys? Doesn't the Bible say we come from dirt?
No it doesn't. Geez, where do you get your information, the Scopes Monkey Trail?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
What part of oil isn't natural, skippy?
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Yes it does. Interesting that when we die we turn back into dust.
You deceived people have a bunch of different wacked out views. Most of you think we come from monkeys. Ok you don't believe that. What did people evolve from then?
Evolution teaches we evolved from Piltdown man. Or maybe it was Nebraska man.
Chuckles...and the Bible teaches Some Guy, or, rather, a Bunch of Guys waved their hands and a Star Was Born.
It's perfectly natural. I don't know what all the arm-waving is about. I say we do what Limbaugh says, and just let it take care of itself. Don't you?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
You don't have a clue what evolutionary biology is about. Best to stick to Ron Paul, Bush worship, and Obama hatred. Those are your areas of expertise.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
If you want to discuss evolution theory with me any more, discuss its usefulness. Otherwise you are boring me.
You don't have a clue what evolutionary biology is about. Why don't you tell me what you think it's all about, so I can have a good laugh as you try to explain it? D Do you want me to give you some crib notes to pro-evolution websites so you can get your talking points together?
Why should I waste my time doing that? Believe whatever you want. Just remember, science gave us airplanes. Religion gave us people who fly airplanes into buildings.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Fine, what do you think a "scientific" belief in evolution will accomplish? Do you even know what you are talking about? What is your background? I wish there was a genuine evolionist biologist who would come on here and openly defend their belief.
They are anti science but do dim witted to realize it. They just hate God and western civilization.
I was a geologist. What's yours?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
It's not a "belief", it's a theory. Because of that, it takes a little work on your part to try to follow it. You're the one who bases everything on belief, which requires no mental effort at all.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
You're proof that humans are devolving.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Do you practice beastiality and other perversions? Since you seem to post so much about them.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
What's yours? I wonder if the Goldwater family also believes that the earth is only a few thousands of years old?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
I'm still waiting for you to post what your background is. Embarrassed?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
I was a geologist. What's yours? I am (not past tense) a registered professional chemical engineer.
Quit playing stupid. It is your ilk that thinks we came from monkeys. If your belief is correct you shouldn't have a problem with it. Again do monkeys turn you on? I don't believe the fairy tale of evolution so I think that would be sicko. But you are a liberal who thinks they begat us.
What's yours? So you know the earth is young but wont admit it? You know the grand canyon was formed very rapidly and not the joke of over millions of years. Or are you really a propagandist?
Why do you keep lying about what evolution teaches?
Any exchange in which, by the third post, you can't mention Obama's race, is "boring" to you.
Prove it.
Given its Day 80...I don't think any of us have any choice. Heard from a friend from Norway called in as a consultant the psi from the well is over 100,000, compared to the normal psi of around 1,500 due to the depth of the well. Its his opinion this is going to continue for quite a while, and when the pressure does finally drop, that ice cold seawater is going to penetrate the huge chamber where the oil was and BOOM!. He says thats why they aren't really making that big of an effort to clean the beaches, cause they know there won't be any after the wave the inevitably explosion is going to create. Don't know if I believe it or not. What I believe is we will be noting day 180 eventually.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
It's a belief. Totally faith based. There's no evidence whatsoever that an amoeba will evolve into a gazelle.
Or are you really a propagandist? The Grand Canyon formed as fast as the level of the surrounding terrain rose and the Colorado River was able to cut into it. The whole area is actually a high plain. You can find no similiar areas on earth that correspond to any of your geological beliefs. And if you could you would know because there would be great changes occurring before your very eyes. Whole mountain ranges would be rising virtually overnight, others would be disappearing, among many other changes. Most of the earth would be unlivable for humans and animals Maybe you can explain why your Jewish God changed to the current laws of physics. Just to create mean, hateful, nasty believers like you?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
No, I don't know that. Why not post something to convince me?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
That's not the way it works Eric.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
The only way that it can work for the "Abra-cadabra" crowd is to mis-represent.
That's not the way it works Eric. Of course not. Except that you nor any other evolution proponents actually know how it's supposed to work.
True, but this thread is beginning to provide an amoeba can evolve into a leftwing poster....(chuckle)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
It's a theory. As a theory it's done a pretty good job. Is it perfect? No, but then theories are constantly being challenged, tested and modified. What's your theory? I don't believe I've seen it posted here yet.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
The big question should be.... why aren't you working? Aren't there some chemicals that need engineering?
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
I would think a Registered Chemical Engineer would be well versed on that subject.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
As an admitted washed up geologist, I wouldn't expect you to know anything about the genetics you constantly mention, but you should be able to respect these axioms of evolution: GEOLOGIC COLUMN A precise hierarchy of fossilized animals and plants of known age found in successive layers of stratified rock with the simplest and oldest at the bottom and the most highly evolved, i.e., most recent, at the top. Uninterrupted columns of this type may be found in any book of geology, paleontology or evolution. Bits and pieces of the column may even be found in the stratified rocks of the earth, but since these layers are often out of correct order and very incomplete, one should study the geologic column in books, not nature. INDEX FOSSILS Fossils of animals whose ages are precisely known from the age of the rocks in which they are found, thus, serving as a means for accurately dating the rocks in which they are found as well as the age of any other fossils that may be contained therein. For your complete guide to evolution, see here: http://www.gennet.org/facts/devil.html
A pretty good job of what? What benefits has it brought to mankind?
The prgress of a society has always been tied to the progress of science.
You don't ***think*** that geologists know this and use a deliberate process to keep "things" ordered?
What science? Evolution is a tautology, the same as creationism. The conclusion was reached before any evidence was obtained. When the evidence doesn't support what is believed is needed to support that conclusion, it is rationalized away. It's no different than middle age astronomers simply adding more and more epicycles to their models to support the notion of a geoocentric universe.
Evolutionary biology most certainly is done under Scientific Nethod. "God as Magician" does not. What is SCATOLOGY is you trying to promote them as the same.
Thanks for the Geology 101 lesson. For you, it's a start. The "one should study the geologic column in books, not nature" is new, though. Is that what you creationists "think"?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Bullshit. Darwin had reams of evidence for Origin of the Species.
That's what theory is. You propose a solution that appears to explain your observations. As time goes on theory is modified based on improvements in observation based on improvements in technique. When a theory like a geocentric universe is unable to explain new observations, new theories arise and replace it. Why do you have such a problem with that? Do you not go to doctors because medicine is all based on theories, many of which have been abandoned over time because they were found to be wrong?
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
I doubt you read any of the "wacko" links I provided, or you would know that's already been discussed. To summarize, the churches of Darwin's day believed in the secular Greek philosophy that the species had never changed throughout the existence of life. The Bible, however, does not teach this. Darwin, to his credit, observed, that yes, species did change over time based on their surroundings. He wasn't the only one to make such observations, just the most famous. However, Darwin, without basis, extrapolated this out to suggesting that all life evolved in such manner, and their is simply no basis for this. Today, even young earth creationists would actually agree with about everything Darwin observed in his studies.
AGain, Darwin had REAMS of evidence for this. You are simply lying. Transmutation of species was a hypothesis that was at least 150 years old and was embraced mostly by botanists [who were the closest thing to being genticists atthe time and of which Darwin was one] by the time Darwin set sale. The repression of science, the denial of science, the outright lying about scientific discoveries has ALWAYS been a top 3 goal of religion. Today, even young earth creationists would actually agree with about everything Darwin observed in his studies. Observation is an element of scientific method, Paddy.
There is no basis for believing that life evolved. None. Everything we know suggests otherwise. The idea that viable new creatures occur on a large scale through mutations on the surface doesn't make sense as there are very few beneficial mutations ever observed and the vast majority are hideously unbeneficial. They've been screwing around with fruit fly genes for what would amount to thousands of generations of human life, and all they've ever been able to come up with is a bunch of really screwed up fruit flies.
I cannot help you. You're delusional.
Prions and viruses, and slow natural selection.
"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)
Ever been to the badlands?
No. It was cut rapidly after the flood. It was a pile of mud. Then the water broke through and carved it out. There is no other explanation.
We men do. You come from a rib.
"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh
Mmmm....ribs....
#2. To: mininggold (#1)
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He needs to shut up
#3. To: reaganisright (#0)
Who is Sarah Palin? Wife, mother, grandmother, soldier's mom, soccer mom, working mom, who believes in God, the Constitution, American uniqueness, sanctity of life, family values, school choice and low taxes.
#4. To: mininggold (#1)
He needs to shut up and entertain like the rest of the celebrity/entertainers his Fox cohost Laura Ingraham writes about.
#5. To: mininggold (#1)
#6. To: reaganisright (#0)
#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)
You don't like free speech eh.
#8. To: war (#6)
Why anyone would believes that ANYONE fears Palin is beyond anything
#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)
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#10. To: war (#9)
#11. To: war (#9)
#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)
You're afraid of Palin. No doubt. Quit lying.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)
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#14. To: The Tool (#13)
Obama - or anyone for that matter - COULD be a monkey and they'd still be doing better than your hero.
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
And you know this how
#16. To: war (#15)
#17. To: A K A Stone (#16)
Be honeset [sic]
#18. To: war (#17)
I'm one of the most honest posters you have here.
#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)
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Then you denied it at first.
#20. To: war (#19)
I didn't "change" anything.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)
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#22. To: war (#21)
#23. To: A K A Stone (#22)
#24. To: war (#23)
#25. To: The Tool (#15)
Being smarter than you is a good start.
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
#27. To: The Tool (#21)
Right. I added a word. It didn't "change" anything.
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#27)
#29. To: A K A Stone (#18)
#30. To: Jethro Tull (#27)
#31. To: A K A Stone (#8)
You commies are afraid of Palin. No doubt. It is utter stupidity to say otherwise.
#32. To: The Tool (#28)
You're a power hungry pissant of a boy.
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32)
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#34. To: Abu el Banat (#31)
#35. To: war (#33)
#36. To: Badeye (#34)
#37. To: The Tool (#33)
I'm not poor and I am quite nimble.
#38. To: war (#6)
She was an ineffective mayor. She was an ineffective governor who quit her position because, IN HER OWN WORDS, she was ineffective and couldn't handle the scrutiny.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#39. To: Jethro Tull (#37)
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but you are distinct liability with your reckless, article altering proclivity.
#40. To: go65 (#38)
#41. To: A K A Stone (#5)
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You don't like free speech eh. No this is what needs to happen. The black guy illegally occupying the white house needs to admit he isn't a citizen and get the fuck out of America. That is what needs to happen.
#42. To: Abu el Banat (#36)
#43. To: go65 (#38)
#44. To: The Tool (#39)
Fuck off
#45. To: Abu el Banat (#36)
I know her because of her supporters.
#46. To: Badeye (#43)
No, only leftwingers and men that couldn't get the prom queen to date them fear/hater her GO65.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#47. To: Badeye, Abu el Banat (#42)
Aw, ABBA, don't be upset you can't write a tagline on your own.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#44)
Tool, the difference being only YOU CHANGES copyrighted material. Just apologize for being a goof and move on, OK?
#49. To: Jethro Tull (#44)
Just about every thread on this - and on your and your girlfriend's site - is a copyright violation and you know it. So shove your sanctimony up your ass.
#50. To: Badeye (#42)
#51. To: A K A Stone, badeye (#8)
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"We were really trying very hard to minimize the impact on public services, those types of things. Because I think that with the current economic conditions there's sensitivity. If there were some massive reductions, or massive layoffs, that would have an unintended consequence of putting Alaska further into a recession,"
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#52. To: war (#49)
Just about every thread on this - and on your and your girlfriend's site - is a copyright violation and you know it. So shove your sanctimony up your ass.
#53. To: mininggold (#45)
And her supporters are a truly unlikeable bunch. I think of Mad Dog as being typical of the droolers.
#54. To: The Tool (#49)
#55. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
#56. To: mininggold (#48)
#57. To: mininggold (#52)
And Christine got all upset over it and had Destro banned.
#58. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
Tool, are you repeating yourself?
#59. To: Abu el Banat (#55)
There was zero jeopardy, dipshit.
#60. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
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#61. To: Jethro Tull (#59)
#62. To: Fred Mertz (#61)
#63. To: Jethro Tull (#59)
Ah, so Stone over reacted when he iced the Tool for a few days?
#64. To: Abu el Banat (#36)
I haven't read a word she's written (can she write?)
#65. To: Fred Mertz (#61)
#66. To: go65 (#46)
#67. To: go65 (#47)
You do realize that when Palin left Alaska, it had one of the highest budget deficits as a percentage of state budget of any state?
#68. To: Abu el Banat (#62)
It was the 4um retard and badeye joining forces to try and get war banned.
#69. To: Abu el Banat (#62)
#70. To: Abu el Banat (#50)
#71. To: go65 (#51)
#72. To: Badeye, war (#68)
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He'll eventually get his ass banned from here,
#73. To: Jethro Tull, mFred Mertz (#65)
Only YOU would see the wisdom of vacation in a place everyone is fleeing from.
#74. To: Skip Intro (#72)
You're probably right. All he has to do is come out in support of evolution and an earth older that 6000 years and he's a goner.
#75. To: Badeye (#71)
Owe-bama tripled the deficit. Owe-bama DOUBLED the Unemployment rate.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#76. To: go65 (#75)
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Palin doubled the deficit in her state as well.
#77. To: Badeye (#70)
don't mind at all, its an admission that 1) I got into your tiny brain, and you can't do a thing about it...and 2) you can't write your own tagline.
#78. To: go65 (#75)
And the U.S. unemployment rate was 8.1% when Obama took office. It's now 9.5%
#79. To: mininggold (#77)
#80. To: mininggold (#73)
#81. To: Badeye (#74)
While I'm still waiting for a fossil record to support Evolution
#82. To: go65 (#75)
And the U.S. unemployment rate was 8.1% when Obama took office.
#83. To: mininggold (#73)
California tourism is hummming {sp} right along this summer. The place is packed!!!
#84. To: Badeye (#78)
And yet you fixate on Palin?
#85. To: Jethro Tull (#83)
To: mininggold
#86. To: no gnu taxes (#82)
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The unemployment rate when Bush left Office was 7.1%.
#87. To: mininggold (#85)
then they must be coming from your neck of the woods if license plates are any indication.
#88. To: war, no gnu taxes, badeye (#86)
Overall, the "official" national unemployment rate (U-3) increased by 0.4%, from 7.2% to 7.6%, over December's number. For the past twelve months, the national rate has increased 2.7%.
For the most inclusive unemployment rate measured (U-6), the increase was 0.4%, from 13.5% to 13.9%. For the past twelve months, U-6 has increased by 4.9%.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#89. To: mininggold, badeye (#84)
And yet you fixate on Palin?
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#90. To: no gnu taxes (#82)
The unemployment rate when Bush left Office was 7.1%. Remember how President tar ball promised it wouldn't go above 8% if he could get his porkulus package?
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#91. To: Badeye (#78)
It was just over 6% when Owe-bama took over.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#92. To: Abu el Banat (#31)
#93. To: Skip Intro (#81)
You'll be waiting forever for that to happen.
#94. To: mininggold (#84)
#95. To: go65 (#90)
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I do remember folks like Krugman arguing that he was mistaken to devote so much of the stimulus to tax cuts in an effort to win Republican support. Krugman was correct.
#96. To: war (#60)
Stone was in no more jeopardy from me adding the word "obese" than from any article that gets posted here.
#97. To: A K A Stone (#92)
They know she has the backing of normal Americans.
#98. To: A K A Stone (#92)
The liberals are afraid of Palin. They know she has the backing of normal Americans.
(March 19) - President Barack Obama would cruise to re-election in 2012 if Sarah Palin is the Republican nominee, a new poll finds.
In the hypothetical contest, Obama would defeat the Alaska governor 55 percent to 35 percent, the poll by Public Policy Polling found.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#99. To: go65 (#88)
Badeye's claim that unemployment under Obama has doubled, is patently false
#100. To: A K A Stone (#96)
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I'm not worried about being in jeopardy. I just want honest links to honest articles. I know you said you wont do it again, and I believe you.
#101. To: go65 (#89)
#102. To: Badeye (#74)
I know the earth is hundreds of millions of years old.
#103. To: Skip Intro (#72)
You're probably right. All he has to do is come out in support of evolution and an earth older than 6000 years and he's a goner.
#104. To: go65 (#91)
Again, your claim that unemployment doubled under Obama is false.
#105. To: A K A Stone (#102)
#106. To: A K A Stone (#98)
A new poll of Republicans by Harris brought bad news for the White House aspirations of both Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin, who both find themselves trailing none of the above. Among Republicans Romney leads Palin, 14%-13%, when voters were asked who the leader of the GOP is, but None beat both of them with 34%. Thus far neither Palin nor Romney has convinced Republicans that they can turn the Party of No into the Party of Go.
Palin’s and Romney’s issues mirrored each other as according to Harris, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney rated highest with 14 percent, but he was swamped by the 34 percent of respondents who were either “not sure” or would have picked someone other than the eight Republicans listed, and Sarah Palin finished second among Republicans with 13 percent. She was trailed by Sen. John McCain (11%), former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (6%) former Vice President Dick Cheney and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (4% each), House Minority Leader John Boehner (3%) and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (<1%).
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#107. To: Badeye (#93)
The fact it hasn't been found yet indicates something most don't want to consider.
#108. To: go65 (#106)
#109. To: A K A Stone (#103)
Nah. I will just point out the truth.
#110. To: Badeye (#104)
No it isn;'t...
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#111. To: Badeye, go65 (#78)
It was just over 6% when Owe-bama took over.
#112. To: Badeye (#108)
At this point in the 2000 race, Jeb Bush was the odds on favorite.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#113. To: Skip Intro (#107)
#114. To: no gnu taxes (#111)
#115. To: go65 (#112)
Agreed, thought historically one can't overcome negatives as high as Palin's among members of their own party.
#116. To: Skip Intro (#87)
The beaches here were packed with people with out of state plates. It took nearly an hour for the fireworks traffic to clear this year, and access for the "locals" was damn near impossible unless you camped out on the beach starting at 6:00 a.m. or so.
#117. To: war (#95)
Krugman argued for a stim twice the size of what we got as well as, I believe from what I've read of his anyway, keeping open ended the tax credits that were consumer targetted.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#118. To: no gnu taxes (#111)
I don't think it's a reach to declare Obama being "in charge" at that time.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#119. To: go65 (#110)
OK, how is going from 7.6% to 9.5% "doubling"
#120. To: go65 (#117)
Welcome to the reality of tea party politics espoused by those who lack any understanding of economics.
#121. To: go65 (#118)
#122. To: war (#114)
Wha...chuckle...huh?
#123. To: war (#114)
Is it your argument that the economy had upward momentum up until the point Obama was elected?
#124. To: mininggold (#122)
I'm getting dizzy
#125. To: no gnu taxes (#123)
It had upward momentum until The Democrats had control of Congress --
#126. To: no gnu taxes (#124)
The Juze probably spiked your coffee with something.
#127. To: no gnu taxes (#123)
It had upward momentum until The Democrats had control of Congress -- a mistake that will be remedied in 4 months.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#128. To: Badeye (#120)
Wait til the tax hike on January 1st, courtesy of Pelosi, Reid, and Owe-bama.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#129. To: go65 (#117)
(Edited)
Not in this political climate.
#130. To: Badeye (#119)
The 'real' numbers were closer to 9% and 18% respectively, GO65.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#131. To: Badeye (#119)
Last month, 650,000 saw their unemployment benefits run out, as you know. And they were not COUNTED in the official numbers. If they were not removed, the 'official' number would have jumped to 10.2
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#132. To: war (#129)
It's pretty clear that DCCC's - possibly Obama's - strategy is to put the GOP on the defensive about passing maeasures to help the unemployed and consumers.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#133. To: go65 (#127)
So please explain to me how GOP control of the Congress, if it happens, will result in accelerated economic growth.
#134. To: go65 (#132)
(Edited)
#135. To: reaganisright (#0)
#136. To: no gnu taxes (#133)
Friendlier relations with small business.
#137. To: mininggold (#1)
He needs to shut up and entertain like the rest of the celebrity/entertainers his Fox cohost Laura Ingraham writes about.
#138. To: mininggold (#136)
(Edited)
That small business quote is a laugh!
#139. To: no gnu taxes (#133)
Bush tax cuts not allowed to lapse.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#140. To: Ibluafartsky, mininggold (#2)
He needs to shut up
#141. To: war (#138)
My brother in law - a small business [LLC] owner - is up from FL and if I was following him on Saturday, he was 100% opposed to HRC when it passed [he still states that it's not reform] but he's now come 180 degrees as he sees the tax advantages he is going to get.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#142. To: Liberator (#137)
And you need to re-bury your maw back into your second fifth of Gilbey's, you ignorant socialist twit.
#143. To: go65 (#139)
Bush tax cuts were in full effect during the economic collapse.
#144. To: go65 (#128)
Wait til the tax hike on January 1st, courtesy of Pelosi, Reid, and Owe-bama.
#145. To: mininggold (#142)
Another Sarahdroid heard from. You really do need to renew your Lithium. LOLOL
#146. To: go65 (#130)
The 'real' numbers were closer to 9% and 18% respectively, GO65. These are numbers you are making up, right?
#147. To: go65 (#131)
If those 650,000 were actively looking for work they would be counted.
#148. To: go65 (#141)
#149. To: go65 (#132)
Yes, but it doesn't seem to be working. My read of the political climate now is that people want budget cuts, but few realize that cutting spending during a recession is suicidal.
#150. To: Liberator (#145)
Would you care to refute any of Miller's claims, 0bamaBot? (hiccup)
#151. To: sneakypete (#3)
I pretty much agree with everything he wrote,but he didn't write enough. He failed to mention she is a Zionist and Israeli-Firster,and that she was seduced by the bright lights and big money of national politics.
#152. To: Badeye (#146)
Look around.
#153. To: Badeye (#147)
Wow.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#154. To: mininggold (#150)
His subjective claim that everyone who dares criticize Palin is afraid of her?
#155. To: Badeye (#149)
Maintaining a unsustainable deficit is suicidal.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#156. To: Badeye (#144)
Where do you think venture capital comes from, GO65?
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#157. To: sneakypete, mininggold (#4)
He needs to shut up and entertain like the rest of the celebrity/entertainers his Fox cohost Laura Ingraham writes about.
#158. To: Liberator (#154)
Ok. Maybe only the Left's critics fear Palin; Those on the Right who criticize her do so on ideological grounds.
#159. To: go65 (#155)
The trick is to reduce spending/deficit during growth, something the GOP forgot when they inherited a growing economy and a surplus.
#160. To: mininggold, liberator (#158)
If you want to get Obama out you need a viable alternative. Sarah isn't it, something I would not expect you droids to ever understand.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#161. To: war, reaganisright (#6)
This "argument" is the ROFLMAO moment of the debate. Why anyone would believes that ANYONE fears Palin is beyond anything containing a semblence of reason.
#162. To: Liberator (#161)
#163. To: mininggold (#158)
If you want to get Obama out you need a viable alternative.
#164. To: A K A Stone, war (#10)
You're afraid of Palin. No doubt. Quit lying.
#165. To: mininggold (#162)
(Edited)
Your nasty behavior on public forums would have Sarah's approval I presume.
#166. To: dwarf (#26)
I have no intention of supporting Obama in any election.
#167. To: Skip Intro (#165)
#168. To: Skip Intro (#165)
#169. To: Skip Intro (#165)
He's just another dipshit from the dying LP looking for attention.
#170. To: Fred Mertz (#80)
It was quite a shock to my normal, hum-drum rural lifestyle.
But I can't, so I won't.
#171. To: mininggold (#84)
Palin and McCain gave us Obama.
But I can't, so I won't.
#172. To: Bartcoprules (#169)
There do seem to be a number of cuckoo's nest regulars here today.
#173. To: go65 (#155)
The trick is to reduce spending/deficit during growth, something the GOP forgot when they inherited a growing economy and a surplus.
#174. To: Skip Intro (#165)
Is the yucktard here yet, after getting his head slapped by Goldi today?
#175. To: no gnu taxes (#173)
They inherited a declining economy and a dot com bubble burst.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#176. To: Abu el Banat (#168)
#177. To: Bartcoprules (#169)
#178. To: no gnu taxes (#173)
They inherited a declining economy...
#179. To: Fred Mertz (#172)
#180. To: Skip Intro (#165)
Is the yucktard here yet, after getting his head slapped by Goldi today?
#181. To: mininggold (#152)
We were told during the Bush administration not to believe our eyes, when those thousands of foreclosure signs went up.
#182. To: go65 (#153)
You really don't have the slightest clue as to how the unemployment rate is calculated, do you?
#183. To: go65 (#156)
(Edited)
Was there no venture funding in the 1990's before the cuts?
#184. To: Abu el Banat, Bartcoprules, Skip Intro, mininggold, war, Badeye (#168)
#185. To: go65 (#155)
That's true. But our deficit is unsustainable over the long-term, not the short term. Cutting short-term spending now will only lead to greater unemployment and reduced economic activity as the Ireland example underscores.
#186. To: mininggold (#162)
Your nasty behavior on public forums
#187. To: Badeye (#185)
The trick is to make Americans believe Owe-bama knows what he's doing related to the economy.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#188. To: Liberator (#176)
#189. To: go65 (#175)
And busted the budget with massive tax cuts, medicare Part D, and a trillion dollar war in Iraq, without paying for any of it.
#190. To: go65 (#187)
#191. To: Abu el Banat (#188)
#192. To: go65 (#187)
Good luck convincing folks to return to the red...
#193. To: Abu el Banat (#188)
#194. To: Bartcoprules (#180)
Did Nurse Ratched get angry again?
#195. To: Skip Intro (#194)
I wonder if he'll abdicate his position again?
#196. To: Skip Intro (#194)
#197. To: Abu el Boner (#188)
#198. To: Fred Mertz (#184)
#199. To: go65, Badeye (#187)
Good luck convincing folks to return to the red:
#200. To: no gnu taxes (#123)
It had upward momentum until The Democrats had control of Congress
#201. To: Bartcoprules (#196)
#202. To: Bartcoprules (#196)
So the cuckoos are starting to eat their own?
#203. To: Badeye (#198)
That is amusing...too long, but amusing.
#204. To: Skip Intro (#203)
#205. To: Skip Intro (#202)
It's hard to keep up. The only constant there is that Goldi...
#206. To: Liberator (#199)
Let's all develop severe cases of amnesia about the economy during Bush Years,
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#207. To: war (#204)
#208. To: Badeye (#181)
(Edited)
Meanwhile, in the year 2010, foreclosures are over 360,000 per month under the current regime.
#209. To: Skip Intro (#207)
#210. To: Skip Intro (#207)
#211. To: go65 (#206)
(Edited)
#212. To: war (#209)
Get off the grid?
#213. To: Skip Intro (#212)
#214. To: Liberator (#205)
Sounds as if someone (YOU) lives vicariously through others.
#215. To: Fred Mertz (#210)
(Edited)
#216. To: Skip Intro (#203)
#217. To: go65 (#206)
I agree with you, we should remember the Bush economy, especially 2007.
#218. To: Skip Intro, e_type_jag (#207)
If I could still post there...
#219. To: Skip Intro (#214)
You mean like pretending to be an F-16 fighter pilot? That kind of pretending?
#220. To: Liberator (#208)
How do the pods here NOT notice all this?
#221. To: Liberator (#199)
#222. To: Luberator (#220)
#223. To: Badeye (#220)
They know its the truth.
#224. To: Skip Intro (#214)
#225. To: Liberator (#223)
#226. To: Badeye (#221)
The fact is any rational person would take ANY YEAR under Bush over this year to date.
#227. To: war (#224)
#228. To: Skip Intro (#227)
I actually research subjects using credible sources before posting.
#229. To: Liberator (#226)
#230. To: Liberator (#223)
Misery does love company, doesn't it?
#231. To: dwarf (#224)
Felat-o-rator is also pretending that he isn't a closet sausage gobbler...
#232. To: Skip Intro (#227)
#233. To: Abu el Banat (#222)
#234. To: Liberator (#231)
#235. To: Badeye (#221)
The fact is any rational person would take ANY YEAR under Bush over this year to date.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#236. To: Badeye (#230)
They never seem to realize its their mindset that put them into their personal straits in the first place, by and large.
#237. To: Badeye (#234)
that boy has some serious issues....
#238. To: go65 (#235)
#239. To: Liberator (#236)
Buy hey - just as long as everyone else get taken down, or out...What do they care?
#240. To: Badeye (#217)
This year to date makes 2007 look good.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#241. To: war (#228)
Isn't it fun watching two Moonbats fight over the keys to the Rubber Room?
#242. To: go65 (#240)
So you would be far happier then if the DJIA was sitting in the mid-6000's again and our financial system was teetering on the edge of collapse while even Conservatives were arguing for $800 billion bailouts?
#243. To: war, Skippy (#224)
To: Skip Intro
#244. To: Skip Intro (#241)
If only "I shot down 3 MIGS" Mad Dog would join in it would be perfect.
#245. To: go65 (#240)
...the economy isn't doing poorly enough...
#246. To: Fred Mertz (#244)
Has he backtracked from that claim yet?
#247. To: Badeye (#239)
They don't understand the long term implications as it pertains to them. That much is exceedingly obvious.
#248. To: Skip Intro (#246)
#249. To: go65 (#240)
This year to date makes 2007 look good.
#250. To: no gnu taxes (#249)
#251. To: Skip Intro (#246)
#252. To: Skip Intro, dwarf (#246)
It's not every poster who can work the word "c^nt" into every sentence, sometimes even two or three times.
#253. To: Liberator (#247)
#254. To: Badeye (#250)
#255. To: Fred Mertz (#251)
#256. To: no gnu taxes (#254)
#257. To: no gnu taxes (#249)
In 2007, the Dow was around 14,000.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#258. To: Badeye (#256)
Its interesting GO65 found 2007 so terrible, eh?
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#259. To: Skip Intro (#255)
Hmm. Looks like b!tch is his word of the day now. It's always good to see what passes for civil discourse on Goldi's site.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#260. To: go65 (#259)
Let's examine Palin's "dumbness." She more than held her own in the vice-presidential debate with Joe Biden.
#261. To: Fred Mertz (#184)
I just stumbled . . .
But I can't, so I won't.
#262. To: Abu el Bwaawaa! Badeye (#229)
Yes, that's better. Use lots of big words.
#263. To: go65 (#258)
Its interesting GO65 found 2007 so terrible, eh? Should I use your logic and argue that a higher DJIA is meaningless?
#264. To: Ignore Amos (#261)
Fred: I just stumbled . . .
#265. To: Liberator (#262)
#266. To: Badeye, go65 (#263)
If my 'argument' was based only on DJIA you could.
#267. To: Badeye (#263)
2007 was a great year, especially compared to 2010.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#268. To: war (#260)
Putting aside the issue that Biden will never be confused with Albert Einstein, he trounced her.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#269. To: war (#260)
he trounced her.
#270. To: go65 (#267)
#271. To: Liberator (#266)
#272. To: Badeye, Skidmark Intro, Abu el-Batsh*t, Dwarf (#265)
ABBA can't even write his own taglines....(laughing)
#273. To: no gnu taxes (#269)
#274. To: Liberator (#272)
#275. To: Badeye, Abu el-Banat, aka Dwarf's Bratty Brother (#274)
ABBA just wants to belong, so he tags along for the ride, kinda like a little bratty brother.
#276. To: Badeye (#273)
A national poll of people who watched the vice presidential debate Thursday night suggests that Democratic Sen. Joe Biden won, but also says Republican Gov. Sarah Palin exceeded expectations.
#277. To: go65 (#267)
And 2010 was a great year, compared to 2008.
#278. To: no gnu taxes (#276)
It was mixed. I don't think those polled took into account that Biden was just making up what he was saying.
#279. To: Liberator (#277)
#280. To: no gnu taxes (#276)
I don't think those polled took into account that Biden was just making up what he was saying.
#281. To: Badeye (#279)
#282. To: go65 (#267)
#283. To: no gnu taxes (#282)
#284. To: no gnu taxes (#282)
(Edited)
n 2008, unemployment started at 5% and ended at 7.4% The Dow did fall from about 12,000 to about 8,000.
#285. To: no gnu taxes (#269)
He trounced her.
#286. To: war (#284)
2010 is a better year [than 2008.]
#287. To: war (#284)
Unemployment rose 50%
#288. To: Liberator (#151)
If she advocates the exact opposite of the Kenyan-Commie, and pumps up our side into a frenzy, I don't care if she becomes a billionaire.
#289. To: Liberator (#157)
Of course not; THEY are "legitimate news sources."
#290. To: Skip Intro (#109)
No, you'll point out your religious superstitions and pretend they're truth. It's a lot easier to do that than actually think.
#291. To: Badeye (#105)
Beyond the existing know fossile record? The existing and known science of geology?
#292. To: A K A Stone (#290)
Give me an example of something you know of that proves the earth is old. Go ahead I'm patiently waiting.
#293. To: Skip Intro (#292)
Read a geology book. Learn how radiometric dating methods work and how they're used.
#294. To: Skip Intro (#292)
Read a geology book. Learn how radiometric dating methods work and how they're used.
#295. To: no gnu taxes (#293)
They are hardly confirmable (such as measuring a gravity accelleration constant).
#296. To: no gnu taxes (#293)
Read a geology book. Learn how radiometric dating methods work and how they're used.
#297. To: A K A Stone (#294)
I'm still waiting on an answer. Can't you back up your big proclamations?
#298. To: A K A Stone (#296)
He is afraid to answer.
#299. To: Skip Intro (#297)
Not unless you're willing to do a little work on your own.
#300. To: Skip Intro (#297)
Really, we may as well be arguing about whether the sun rises in the west or the east.
#301. To: A K A Stone (#300)
I think we can probably agree that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
#302. To: Skip Intro (#301)
#303. To: A K A Stone (#302)
You said the earth was millions.
#304. To: Badeye (#283)
There you go again, inserting facts where none are desired....
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#305. To: Skip Intro (#295)
Whatever you say.
#306. To: no gnu taxes (#305)
There are very scientific alternative ideas
#307. To: Skip Intro (#303)
I said it's billions of years old. It took people thousands of years to finally figure that out. I'm not going to try to teach you on a chat site.
#308. To: A K A Stone (#307)
Sounds like your religion is evolution...
#309. To: Skip Intro (#308)
#310. To: A K A Stone (#309)
Are you saying you don't believe in evolution?
#311. To: Skip Intro (#310)
Are you saying you don't believe in evolution?
#312. To: no gnu taxes (#311)
#313. To: A K A Stone (#307)
#314. To: Fred Mertz (#313)
How old do you think this Earth is?
#315. To: Fred Mertz (#313)
#316. To: Skip Intro (#310)
Of course I do. What do you believe in?
#317. To: mininggold (#314)
He's busy counting up the 'begats'.
#318. To: A K A Stone (#316)
(Edited)
So you think it is ok to fuck monkeys? Afterall you think you came from them.
#319. To: no gnu taxes (#287)
By your logic, if unemployment rises from 1 to 1.5%, it has been a catastrophic year economically.
#320. To: no gnu taxes (#269)
#321. To: no gnu taxes (#311)
(Edited)
Do you believe in punctuated equilibrium as opposed to traditional Darwinism?
#322. To: A K A Stone (#291)
Ever heard of the creation museum in Kentucky?
#323. To: A K A Stone (#291)
#324. To: go65 (#304)
#325. To: Badeye (#324)
It has doubled.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
#326. To: go65 (#325)
#327. To: go65 (#325)
Only if you make up your own data Badeye.
#328. To: war (#319)
5% to 7.5% is a significant increase
#329. To: war (#321)
#330. To: no gnu taxes (#328)
And it's still significantly less than 10%, which was the actual argument.
#331. To: no gnu taxes (#329)
#332. To: war (#330)
Unemployment went where it did from the momentum
#333. To: Abu el Banat (#327)
#334. To: war (#331)
#335. To: no gnu taxes (#332)
That wasn't the argument
#336. To: no gnu taxes (#334)
(Edited)
But the “big jumpers” were never able to explain how these big jumps could occur genetically...
#337. To: war (#335)
#338. To: no gnu taxes (#337)
The argument was which was a worse year economically to live in -- 2008 or 2010.
#339. To: no gnu taxes (#337)
#340. To: war (#336)
But the “big jumpers” were never able to explain how these big jumps could occur genetically...
#341. To: war (#338)
The argument was which was a worse year economically to live in -- 2008 or 2010.
#342. To: no gnu taxes (#340)
So you will have no problem describing precisely how this is supposed to have happened?
#343. To: no gnu taxes (#341)
So for all your machinations to the contrary, it all boils down to your agreeing with badeye over goat boy on the matter?
#344. To: war (#342)
For the record, the wackos you refer to fully believe in adaptation and speciation.
#345. To: A K A Stone (#317)
(Edited)
s that supposed to be clever?
#346. To: no gnu taxes (#341)
#347. To: no gnu taxes (#344)
#348. To: war (#347)
The dogs were already there
#349. To: no gnu taxes (#348)
Dogs, being unclean...
#350. To: war (#349)
Dogs, being unclean...
#351. To: war (#349)
Existed in more than one form...the passage says "every beast".
#352. To: no gnu taxes (#348)
already where?
#353. To: no gnu taxes (#350)
(Edited)
Since the passage is not specific as to what "every beast (or animal)" means, one can only speculate as to what it does.
#354. To: A K A Stone (#316)
So you think it is ok to fuck monkeys? Afterall you think you came from them.
#355. To: no gnu taxes (#344)
If the account of Noah’s Ark in the Bible is true
#356. To: war (#353)
And there is a possibility that since it is known the ancient Semetic people ATE dogs, that they may have been considered clean by Noah who, having lived before Abraham and Moses. was pre-Leviticus and kosher law.
#357. To: no gnu taxes (#356)
The author of the Book Of Genesis certainly knew what clean and unclean was
#358. To: no gnu taxes (#356)
The author of the Book Of Genesis certainly knew what clean and unclean was, even if it didn't exist at the time of Noah and was simply giving accounts off God's commandment. Clean and unclean animals only mean one thing anywhere in the Bible.
#359. To: war (#357)
Noah didn't.
#360. To: mininggold, no gu taxes, A K A Stone (#358)
#361. To: mininggold (#358)
#362. To: no gnu taxes (#361)
#363. To: war (#362)
#364. To: Fred Mertz (#363)
#365. To: Skip Intro (#360)
How come God was so chatty back in the day, but hasn't had a thing to say for over 2000 years?
#366. To: Skip Intro (#360)
How come God was so chatty back in the day...
#367. To: mininggold (#365)
He must have unchose us.
#368. To: Skip Intro (#367)
I think he's just fickle. His new favorites are the Muslims.
#369. To: mininggold (#368)
Maybe we all have to wait our turn. I think the Chinese are next for most favored people status.
#370. To: mininggold (#345)
s that supposed to be clever?
#371. To: Skip Intro (#360)
How come God was so chatty back in the day, but hasn't had a thing to say for over 2000 years?
#372. To: Skip Intro (#354)
So you think it is ok to fuck monkeys? Afterall you think you came from them.
#373. To: war (#336)
Sure they did. Stop reading whackjob creationist sites which blatantly LIE about what science, i.e. evolutionary biology, has discovered.
#374. To: A K A Stone (#373)
(Edited)
You're a proven liar and deceiver.
#375. To: A K A Stone (#372)
Evolution falsely teaches that we come from monkeys.
#376. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro (#372)
You said you put your faith in evolution. Evolution falsely teaches that we come from monkeys. So you shouldn't have a problem with the question.
#377. To: A K A Stone (#372)
Evolution falsely teaches that we come from monkeys.
#378. To: Skip Intro (#377)
#379. To: lucysmom (#376)
Doesn't the Bible say we come from dirt?
#380. To: Skip Intro (#377)
No it doesn't.
#381. To: Skip Intro (#377)
#382. To: no gnu taxes (#381)
#383. To: Badeye (#378)
What part of oil isn't natural, skippy?
#384. To: no gnu taxes (#381)
Evolution teaches we evolved from Piltdown man.
#385. To: war (#382)
#386. To: Skip Intro (#384)
Evolution teaches we evolved from Piltdown man.
#387. To: no gnu taxes (#386)
Why don't you tell me what you think it's all about
#388. To: Skip Intro (#387)
Just remember, science gave us airplanes.
#389. To: no gnu taxes (#386)
#390. To: no gnu taxes (#388)
What is your background?
#391. To: no gnu taxes (#388)
I wish there was a genuine evolionist biologist who would come on here and openly defend their belief.
#392. To: A K A Stone (#380)
Ok you don't believe that. What did people evolve from then?
#393. To: A K A Stone (#370)
(Edited)
s your position that monkeys procreated humans. Again do monkeys turn you on?
#394. To: Skip Intro (#390)
I was a geologist.
#395. To: no gnu taxes (#388)
#396. To: Skip Intro (#390)
What is your background?
#397. To: mininggold (#393)
Do you practice beastiality and other perversions? Since you seem to post so much about them.
#398. To: Skip Intro (#390)
I was a geologist.
#399. To: A K A Stone (#397)
#400. To: no gnu taxes (#385)
Otherwise you are boring me.
#401. To: A K A Stone (#398)
You know the grand canyon was formed very rapidly
#402. To: Skip Intro (#383)
I say we do what Limbaugh says, and just let it take care of itself. Don't you?
#403. To: Skip Intro (#391)
It's not a "belief", it's a theory.
#404. To: A K A Stone (#398)
So you know the earth is young but wont admit it? You know the grand canyon was formed very rapidly and not the joke of over millions of years.
#405. To: A K A Stone (#398)
So you know the earth is young but wont admit it?
#406. To: no gnu taxes (#403)
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There's no evidence whatsoever that an amoeba will evolve into a gazelle.
#407. To: Skip Intro (#406)
That's not the way it works Eric.
#408. To: Skip Intro (#406)
There's no evidence whatsoever that an amoeba will evolve into a gazelle.
#409. To: no gnu taxes (#403)
There's no evidence whatsoever that an amoeba will evolve into a gazelle.
#410. To: no gnu taxes (#408)
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Except that you nor any other evolution proponents actually know how it's supposed to work.
#411. To: no gnu taxes (#408)
Except that you nor any other evolution proponents actually know how it's supposed to work.
#412. To: Skip Intro (#410)
It's a theory. As a theory it's done a pretty good job. Is it perfect? No, but then theories are constantly being challenged, tested and modified.
#413. To: Skip Intro (#406)
#414. To: Skip Intro (#410)
As a theory it's done a pretty good job.
#415. To: no gnu taxes (#414)
#416. To: no gnu taxes (#413)
Bits and pieces of the column may even be found in the stratified rocks of the earth, but since these layers are often out of correct order and very incomplete
#417. To: war (#415)
#418. To: no gnu taxes (#417)
What science?
#419. To: no gnu taxes (#413)
#420. To: no gnu taxes (#417)
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The conclusion was reached before any evidence was obtained.
#421. To: no gnu taxes (#417)
It's no different than middle age astronomers simply adding more and more epicycles to their models to support the notion of a geoocentric universe.
#422. To: war (#420)
Darwin had reams of evidence for Origin of the Species.
#423. To: no gnu taxes (#422)
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However, Darwin, without basis, extrapolated this out to suggesting that all life evolved in such manner, and their is simply no basis for this.
#424. To: war (#423)
#425. To: no gnu taxes (#424)
There is no basis for believing that life evolved. None.
#426. To: no gnu taxes (#424)
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#427. To: mininggold (#404)
#428. To: mininggold (#404)
The Grand Canyon formed as fast as the level of the surrounding terrain rose and the Colorado River was able to cut into it. The whole area is actually a high plain.
#429. To: lucysmom (#376)
Doesn't the Bible say we come from dirt?
#430. To: Skip Intro (#429)
We men do. You come from a rib.
Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality
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