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Title: Sarah Palin vs. George W. Bush
Source: The Atlantic
URL Source: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics ... -palin-vs-george-w-bush/59104/
Published: Jul 3, 2010
Author: Joshua Green
Post Date: 2010-07-03 02:08:27 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 15007
Comments: 40

Seems like only yesterday, but it's now been a year since Sarah Palin abruptly quit her governorship, leading many people to speculate that she was trying to get a jump on the 2012 presidential campaign. Anyone wondering if Palin will indeed run for president, and what her chances might be, should cast a glance at the new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. Per NBC's Mark Murray and friends:

[H]ere's the political reality: Outside of Republicans, she's not popular at all. According to our NBC/WSJ poll, just 29% view her favorably, compared with 43% who view her unfavorably (not far from George W. Bush's 29%-50% score).
Stop and ponder that one for a moment. Palin's poll numbers are nearly as horrible as George W. Bush's--but only one of them launched two wars and destroyed the economy. That's remarkable. But what's more remarkable, in light of this, is that the idea of George W. Bush running for another term (were such a thing possible) would be greeted by gales of laughter from the political cognoscenti, while the prospect of a Palin presidential campaign is taken seriously.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

The Common Sense displayed in this article will be lost on those who need it the most.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-03   6:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#1)

The Common Sense displayed in this article will be lost on those who need it the most.

As usual,you are confusing partisan propaganda with common sense.

Here is a tip for you,if the left claims something to be true,you can almost certainly count on it being false.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-03   7:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2) (Edited)

Looking at my scorecard I have been lied to about stuff that really matters more by republicans than democrats.

It's not even close and the dems have both LBJ and Bill Clinton on their side.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-03   7:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#3)

Looking at my scorecard I have been lied to about stuff that really matters more by republicans than democrats.

IF that is true it is true only because more Republicans have spoken to you.

You could just as easily say that stone age tribesmen from New Guinea are better drivers than people from Korea because no driver from New Guinea has ever cut you off in traffic or pulled out in front of you.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-03   8:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#2)

As usual,you are confusing partisan propaganda with common sense.

Here is a tip for you,if the left claims something to be true,you can almost certainly count on it being false.

That kind of stuff is so old and tired, the responsible thing to do would be to leave it alone to die.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-03   10:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#2)

As usual,you are confusing partisan propaganda with common sense.

The MO of NeoCon Crazies since Ford elevated the Cheney/Rumsfeld Dynamic Duo:

Liz “BabyDick” Cheney and DNC: Ideological Soulmates? By: emptywheel Saturday July 3, 2010 5:53 am

A number of people have taken the DNC to task for its Rovian attack on RNC Chair Michael Steele for comments suggesting we might fail in Afghanistan (Glenn Greenwald, Greg Sargent, Adam Serwer). The only thing I would add to their comments is to note that not only a majority of the Democratic caucus in the House–as Glenn points out–but also two-thirds of Democrats in polls are ready to end the Afghan war, most of them strongly. Is the institutional Democratic Party trying to score political points on an issue that a solid majority of their party opposes? Really, we’ve gotten that stupid?!?

But what really demonstrates the stupidity of the move is how it puts us in ideological and political partnership with Liz “BabyDick” Cheney–who has called for Steele’s firing over his comments.

“RNC Chairman Michael Steele’s comments about the war in Afghanistan were deeply disappointing and wrong,” Cheney’s statement read. “The chairman of the Republican party must be unwavering in his support for American victory in the war on terror — a victory that cannot be accomplished if we do not prevail in Afghanistan. I endorse fully Bill Kristol’s letter to Chairman Steele. It is time for Chairman Steele to step down.”

Where BabyDick calls Steele’s comments “wrong” DNC calls them “unconscionable.” Where BabyDick demands that the RNC Chair “must be unwavering in support” for the Afghan war, DNC warns that Steele’s “words have consequences.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-03   10:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lucysmom, sneakypete, All (#5)

As usual,you are confusing partisan propaganda with common sense.

Here is a tip for you,if the left claims something to be true,you can almost certainly count on it being false.

That kind of stuff is so old and tired, the responsible thing to do would be to leave it alone to die.

Au Contraire, Madamoiselle and Monsieur,

The Left is just now finding their place in the sun.

With America's Chernobyl raging in the GoM, the Crazies in the GObP have been defenestrated.The apologizetobp website is taking off!

And Us Dirty Fucking Hippies have been correct since Ronnie Raygun declared that trees cause pollution.

Payback's a bitch and as the US Empire Collapses in front of our eyes and it's denizens of the Imperial City and the Top 50 000 crowd the wagon trying to escape us ravening wolves,

everyone is watching as each baby gets thrown off.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-03   10:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#5)

That kind of stuff is so old and tired, the responsible thing to do would be to leave it alone to die.

I'll bet you say the same thing about fire being hot.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-03   11:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mcgowanjm (#7)

With America's Chernobyl raging in the GoM, the Crazies in the GObP have been defenestrated.The apologizetobp website is taking off!

Can you type that in English? I don't speak Klingon.

And Us Dirty Fucking Hippies have been correct since Ronnie Raygun declared that trees cause pollution.

Trees DO cause pollution.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-03   11:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#9)

Can you type that in English? I don't speak Klingon.With America's Chernobyl raging in the GoM, the Crazies in the GObP have been defenestrated.The apologizetobp website is taking off!

Sure.

With America's Chernobyl raging in the GoM, the Crazies in the GObP have been defenestrated.The apologizetobp website is taking off!

America's Chernobyl. That's the Oil Geyser that the Criminal Syndicate british petroleum(they're gonna have to lose that name in a hurry-see that Chrysler commercial?-the chrysler folks get it and they won't be the last) is destroying the Gulf of Mexico, then the NOGC+Florida and then the US Empire and then the Imperial City with.

The Crazies(like Joe Barton, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, Haley Barbour) in the GObP(that this political party refuses to smack down above mentioned Crazies along with neocon idiot pundits like Kristol, Krauthammer, Lara Logan, David Fucking Brooks, et al)

have now been defenestrated(de·fen·es·tra·tion (d -f n -str sh n). n. An act of throwing someone or something out of a window. [From de- + Latin fenestra, window.] defenestration ...;}

By Anyone paying attention to America's Chernobyl in the GoM.

The Evidence is The apologizetobp website which is taking off! Going Viral.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=apologizetobp

Anything else you need, Sneaky, feel free.

James

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-03   11:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#9) (Edited)

And Us Dirty Fucking Hippies have been correct since Ronnie Raygun declared that trees cause pollution.

Trees DO cause pollution.

OMFG LMFAO BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And you're serious.

YEEEEESSSS. All of those Superfund sites like Yosemite, Sequoia Nat'l, the Ozarks and the Ouachitas, the Great Smoky Mtns, the Catskills, the Adirondacks. All of those watersheds under severe risk of pollution!

The Amazon, Borneo. The Boreal Forest circling the Planet just below the Arctic Circle.

YEEEESSS. We need to get busy cutting all of those Virgin Forests down. What are we waiting for?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-03   11:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

Trees DO cause pollution.

OMFG LMFAO BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And you're serious.

Yes, he is, and you are displaying your ignorance. Look up isoprenes and the role of trees in air pollution.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-07-03   12:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mcgowanjm (#10)

America's Chernobyl. That's the Oil Geyser that the Criminal Syndicate british petroleum(they're gonna have to lose that name in a hurry-see that Chrysler commercial?-the chrysler folks get it and they won't be the last) is destroying the Gulf of Mexico, then the NOGC+Florida and then the US Empire and then the Imperial City with.

"Destroy the Gulf of Mexico"???? You are turning into quite a drama queen,ain't you? Yeah,it is causing some damage,but it is NOT "destroying" it.

ave now been defenestrated(de·fen·es·tra·tion (d -f n -str sh n). n. An act of throwing someone or something out of a window.

I'll be damned! It really is a word! I was thinking it was something you made up for the occasion.

The apologizetobp website ....

Ok,I get it now. That one IS a madeup word by your Dim pals.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-03   12:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

Trees DO cause pollution.

OMFG LMFAO BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And you're serious.

Absolutely! Don't believe me,just ask any 7 year old with allergies.

YEEEESSS. We need to get busy cutting all of those Virgin Forests down. What are we waiting for?

I am personally waiting for the Enviro-Whackos to commit suicide.

I know this has probably escaped your attention,but when you cut a tree down,another tree grows there unless you do something to prevent it from growing.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-03   12:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#14) (Edited)

I am personally waiting for the Enviro-Whackos to commit suicide.

Yeah, you and your ilk have been trying to 'suicide' us Dirty Fucking Hippies since Nixon.8D

But since 052010, the Dragon King, America's Chernobyl, it's now muxh too late.

All the dead rotten wood, the pretenders, has been swept away. Burnt in the forges of persecution unrestrained.

All the 1/2 humans thinking out of their lizrd brained cortex are now n control. The very short term, like 'I need it now. I'm going to get it now, and I'll take out who ever's in the way.' Mentality.

Well, you and your ilk have won, SP. You're in charge as the Ecocide of the Gulf proceeds apace.

Even now as I type this, 100 000 barrels a day, already a VLCC (2 Million bbls capacity has poured into the most Strategic Area of the US.

With promises of at 45 days more. And if those lying bastards, BP, which it seems like you're trying to apologize for fail 45 days from now, then what, SP?

You gonna give 'em 45 more days?

How long are you and yours gonna side with the British over the South (where you claim you live? Just where in the South DO you live that you think, SP, you're not being affected by this. I really am curious?

Sneaky Pete, 'I've never heard the name Beauregard.'

LMFAO, James.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   8:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#13)

"Destroy the Gulf of Mexico"???? You are turning into quite a drama queen,ain't you? Yeah,it is causing some damage,but it is NOT "destroying" it.

WTF!?

Just exactly when do you think your Planet Killers will be able to get the job done.

And you and yours can't get your head any farther in the sand.

Answer me this. Why did Every city on the NOGC cancel their fireworks display?

Drama Queen? BWAHAHAHAHAHA

You're clueless as to the implications. You'll have minutes to realize your folly.

Just like that ilk in the Imperial City.

And you don't think there's such a thing as United States Empire either, eh Sneaky?

LMFAO clueless. The great thing about your body is that when you pretend to be something-like stupid-the body does everything to accomodate your wish.

Too fuckin funny. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   8:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: no gnu taxes, All (#12)

Yes, he is, and you are displaying your ignorance. Look up isoprenes and the role of trees in air pollution.

After you look up CoreXit, neurotoxin.

More poisonous than benzene. 8D

Trees cause pollution. Worse than Monsanto/RoundUp. It's the TREES that's killin' the BEES!!!

LMFAO Keep diggin fellas. I'll go the full distance. Gulf Oil spill linked to ecocide to make way for more oil profits Edited by Dr. John Singh Why has the U.S. Navy been held back from using its sophisticated technology that is at its disposal to protect vital Gulf Oil spill? One writer has suggested an intentional ecocide. Ecocide is basically an "environmental genocide".

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   8:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

All the 1/2 humans thinking out of their lizrd brained cortex are now n control.

You're joking right?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-04   9:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)

As much as you were about Byrd.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-04   9:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18) (Edited)

All the 1/2 humans thinking out of their lizrd brained cortex are now n control.

You're joking right?

About what.

OK. Maybe 2 in a 100 are not.

What part of 'you can tell they're lying cause there lips are moving' do you not get.

All common currency zones define zones of predation, that is: define the regions that feed an imperial centre. The current European periphery includes such nations as Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland and all of Eastern Europe. It may also include Italy and the Netherlands, as both of these areas have major debt issues (housing bubbles and national debt). It would also include the UK in a sense, despite the fact that the UK is not part of the single currency. The UK is an international financial centre of considerable stature, but has an enormous debt problem and very few visible means of support going forward, once North Sea oil and gas cease to provide revenues and the City of London takes an inevitable knock-out blow."

Sub our states and the Imperial City/DC for the above.

Louisiana police don’t have any right to tell you you can’t walk onto a public beach (even to, as Esman puts it, “roll around in sticky gunky tar that I’ll never be able to get off–if I want to, that’s my right”). However, they do have the right to mislead you about who they’re really working for. In Louisiana, as in many places, it’s legal for police officers to wear their uniforms regardless of whether they’re acting in an official capacity or working for a private corporation. Which is why Andrew Wheelan, the environmentalist mentioned above, was unaware that the cop who pressured him to stop filming a BP building and later pulled him over so that a BP official could question him wasn’t on duty at the time. The Terrebonne Parish Sheriff’s Office told me that the deputy who pulled Wheelan over is just one of 40 in the parish who are working for BP on their own time. And the BP-police collusion goes beyond uniformed deputies moonlighting. In nearby Lafourche Parish, for example, the sheriff’s office is filling 57 security positions a week for BP; the shifts are on the clock, and BP reimburses the sheriff’s office for them.

McClelland’s bottom line: “…there you have it, plain as day: Down here, many cops do literally work for BP.”

Evil's just another name for "I want it all now. Give it to me or I'll take it."

A cold voice answered: "Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye."

A sword rang as it was drawn. "Do what you will; but I will hinder it, if I may."

"Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!" The Return of the King: "The Battle of the Pelennor Fields," p. 116

Just exactly when do you think BigOil will stop killing the Planet?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#20)

All the 1/2 humans thinking out of their lizrd brained cortex are now n control.

You're joking right?

About what.

Don't play dumb. It is obvious.

Now what proof do you have for this nonsense.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-04   10:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Now what proof do you have for this nonsense.

Waste of time asking.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-04   10:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#21) (Edited)

Don't play dumb. It is obvious.

Now what proof do you have for this nonsense.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA

DeepS hit Horizon!!!

Every day 100 000 bbls geyser into the GoM.

Killing the way of Life of 35 Million Non Trivial Americans.

And they cancel the Fireworks Displays on the Gulf Coast.

And not a word on your TV/Newspaper about this Dragon King.

PROOF!!???

Fuck. 48 Miles SE of the MS River, the PERFECT Kill Shot on the Most Strategic Area of the United States. I couldn't come up with a better one and Mullens goes to Afghanistan before he comes to the GoM.

Everything by the US/BP has been a lie from Day 1.

The ONLY place in the World that it would 'BE CRAZY' to detonate a nuke is 48 Miles off the MS River.

But the US Navy can do WigWam 450 m SW of San Diego, no problem. The US can fire a nuke 250 m into space and detonate over Honolulu, Starfish Prime, no problem.

Nukes and Expensive Oil - The Silver Bear Cafe Jun 11, 2010 ... The Wigwam test blast was about 450 miles southwest of San Diego, Calif. (29 Deg N, 126 Deg W) in open ocean, with water depth of 16000 feet ... www.silverbearcafe.com/private/06.10/nukes.htm

Starfish Prime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Another view of Starfish Prime through thin cloud, as seen from Honolulu ... concentric cirrus like rings moving out from the blast at tremendous initial velocity, ... Growth of the auroral region to the north was by addition of new lines ... "A Quick Look at the Technical Results of Starfish Prime." August 1962. ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime -

Am I getting thru to you, here? ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mcgowanjm (#23)

How does any of this have anything to do with talking lizards?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-04   10:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Badeye, A K A Stone (#22) (Edited)

Waste of time asking.

And talking, eh?

Where's Goldi and her hiding threads when in trouble, eh?

Where's Goldi's rabid attack dogs, eh?

Oh, wrong site. They aren't here. Well what do you fucking know. I can keep posting relevant info like this:

There's a Class War ongoing and your Class isn't winning,

and the thread won't be hidden. Isn't that amazing. Is Libertys Flame a great site. Or What. 8D

"Now what proof do you have for this nonsense."

More proof. Does ANYONE here actually think the US Navy couldn't implode this well?

And Conventional Shaped Charges should do the trick.

Or that BP has more wherewithall than the US Government's Own Multi Trillion Dollar Military?

Please.

Or that the USCG is actually WORKING FOR British Petroleum? OR that it was INSANE for GObP's Joe Barton to APOLOGIZE to British Petroleum?

Did we win the Battle of New Orleans? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#24)

talking lizards?

Show me where I said that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mcgowanjm (#25)

You have some points. But I want to know how you tie this into talking lizards. I have never seen a talking lizard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-04   10:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

ou tie this into talking lizards.

Me too.

Show me where I said that.

The exact quote please. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mcgowanjm (#26)

All the 1/2 humans thinking out of their lizrd brained cortex are now n control.

It implies that they talk.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-04   10:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#27)

I have never seen a talking lizard.

Neither have I. Show me where I said that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#29) (Edited)

All the 1/2 humans thinking out of their lizrd brained cortex are now n control.

Exactly. And thank you. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#29) (Edited)

It implies that they talk.

Then you received the wrong implication.

Because my implication, blatantly stated, was that the Upper Cortex is what these 1/2 humans (or maybe you'd like the term: Homo Rapiens better) are thinking out of 8D:

"Just as the mouse brain is a lizard brain "with some extra stuff thrown on top," Linden writes, the human brain is essentially a mouse brain with extra toppings. That's how we wound up with two vision systems. In amphibians, signals from the eye are processed in a region called the midbrain, which, for instance, guides a frog's tongue to insects in midair and enables us to duck as an errant fastball bears down on us. Our kludgy brain retains this primitive visual structure even though most signals from the eye are processed in the visual cortex, a newer addition. If the latter is damaged, patients typically say they cannot see a thing. Yet if asked to reach for an object, many of them can grab it on the first try. And if asked to judge the emotional expression on a face, they get it right more often than chance would predict‹especially if that expression is anger.

They're not lying about being unable to see. In such "blindsight," people who have lost what most of us think of as vision are seeing with the amphibian visual system. But because the midbrain is not connected to higher cognitive regions, they have no conscious awareness of an object's location or a face's expression. Consciously, the world looks inky black. But unconsciously, signals from the midbrain are merrily zipping along to the amygdala (which assesses emotion) and the motor cortex (which makes the arm reach out).

Primitive brains control movement with the cerebellum. Tucked in the back of the brain, this structure also predicts what a movement will feel like, and sends inhibitory signals to the somatosensory cortex, which processes the sense of touch, telling it not to pay attention to expected sensations (such as the feeling of clothes against your skin or the earth beneath your soles). This is why you can't tickle yourself: the reptilian cerebellum has kept the sensation from registering in the feeling part of the brain. Failing to register feelings caused by your own movements claims another victim: your sense of how hard you are hitting someone. Hence, "but Mom, he hit me harder!"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: All (#32)

But because the midbrain is not connected to higher cognitive regions, they have no conscious awareness of an object's location or a face's expression.

In other words, they don't know what 'charity' is.

They don't know what 'empathy' is.

Cause they have neither.

The body gives you exactly what you pretend. Everytime.

Want to pretend you're thinking of immediate rewards/consequences with ZERO empathy for how you affect the future?

Then you're a 1/2 human thinking out of your 'lizard brain':

"In Our Messy, Reptilian Brains MSNBC - April 9, 2007

April 9, 2007 issue - Let others rhapsodize about the elegant design and astounding complexity of the human brain‹the most complicated, most sophisticated entity in the known universe, as they say. David Linden, a professor of neuroscience at Johns Hopkins University, doesn't see it that way. To him, the brain is a "cobbled-together mess." Impressive in function, sure. But in its design the brain is "quirky, inefficient and bizarre ... a weird agglomeration of ad hoc solutions that have accumulated throughout millions of years of evolutionary history," he argues in his new book, "The Accidental Mind," from Harvard University Press. More than another salvo in the battle over whether biological structures are the products of supernatural design or biological evolution (though Linden has no doubt it's the latter), research on our brain's primitive foundation is cracking such puzzles as why we cannot tickle ourselves, why we are driven to spin narratives even in our dreams and why reptilian traits persist in our gray matter."

HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY EVERYONE:

"Update: July 4th, 2010 2:19 AM Government Ignores Public Outcry; Will Expand Restriction Zone

WKRG is now reporting that the Federal Government plan on expanding the restriction zone to include all booming operations and oil spill response efforts and will expanded to cover Mississippi, Alabama and Florida over the next few days."

Lock and Load. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   10:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mcgowanjm (#32)

Some posters here never took any biology or A and P. You have to excuse their ignorance.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-04   10:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#34) (Edited)

I do until that same ignorance then begins to morph into an attack on me. 8D

But thank you, mg. ;}

" Sure as I know anything, I know this - they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. _Captain Malcolm Reynolds

There is something deep in human nature which has resisted change -- despite the best efforts of crusaders, utopians, religionists, and wishful thinkers -- for many [tens of?] thousands of years. After countless failures to reform the human spirit, most utopians are unfazed. If they can only grab enough power and control over how resources are distributed, they are sure that they can bring perfection to the land, under their own benevolent leadership. "The land will heal, the sea levels will begin to subside, and every man will say to every other man, you are my brother." And so on.

Philosopher Roger Scruton -- author of The Uses of Pessimism -- takes a somewhat more reluctant view:

The belief that humanity makes moral progress depends upon a wilful ignorance of history. It also depends upon a wilful ignorance of oneself – a refusal to recognise the extent to which selfishness and calculation reside in the heart even of our most generous emotions, awaiting their chance. Those who invest their hopes in the moral improvement of humankind are therefore in a precarious position: at any moment the veil of illusion might be swept away, revealing the bare truth of the human condition. Either they defend themselves against this possibility with artful intellectual ploys, or they give way, in the moment of truth, to a paroxysm of disappointment and misanthropy. Both of these do violence to our nature. The first condemns us to the life of unreason; the second to the life of contempt.

...In order to see human beings as they are, therefore, and to school oneself in the art of loving them, it is necessary to apply a dose of pessimism to all one’s plans and aspirations. _GloomMerchant

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-04   11:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

Yeah, you and your ilk have been trying to 'suicide' us Dirty Fucking Hippies since Nixon.8D

I hate to be the one to break this to you,but MOST of the hippies grew up.

Well, you and your ilk have won, SP.

I have a ilk? Really? Can I get them to paint my house for me?

And what did I win?

You're in charge as the Ecocide of the Gulf

You really are a drama queen,ain't you?

And if those lying bastards, BP, which it seems like you're trying to apologize for fail 45 days from now, then what, SP?

I say we plug the wellhead with airheads from the 60's,like Jane Fonda and you.

Recycling,and all dat.

You gonna give 'em 45 more days?

No. I say we give them 45 minutes,and if the leak isn't fixed by then we stamp our little feets and hold our breath until we turn blue.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-04   11:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mcgowanjm (#17)

Why has the U.S. Navy been held back from using its sophisticated technology that is at its disposal to protect vital Gulf Oil spill?

Because they don't have any,and you are confusing the USCG with the US Navy?

One writer has suggested an intentional ecocide.

Who? You? Your intellectual idol,Goober Gore?>

Ecocide is basically an "environmental genocide".

Ecocide os basically bullshit that was dreamed up by a pack of nervous Nellies with their panties all in a wad.

C'mon,admit it! You think Goober Gore is brilliant,don't you>

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-04   11:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#27)

I have never seen a talking lizard.

You have never seen James Carvelle?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-04   11:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#38) (Edited)

I hate to be the one to break this to you,but MOST of the hippies grew up

LMFAO that's all I could stand to read.

Grew up to become what... Planet Killers like the GObP?

How much of the Planet do you think your prodigy will need in order to maintain their dying lifestyles?

Grow up to become a Homo Rapien?

LMFAO. Never. But you keep comin with your swill.

Cause these threads are not being hidden per Goldi the ZioFundy and her Rabid Attack Dogs (nice name for a band, eh;} aren't here to ad Homine attack and obfuscate the US Collapsing.

LMFAO this is good.

"James Carvelle" And it's James Carville. And his wife Mary stood shoulder to shoulder with him. Of course you didn't notice that,eh?

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-07-05   10:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mcgowanjm (#39)

Grew up to become what...

Adults. You should try it.

How much of the Planet do you think your prodigy will need in order to maintain their dying lifestyles?

You are one small step removed from being a circus freak.

James Carvelle" And it's James Carville.

Ok. He's your hero not mine,so I didn't and don't pay much attention to how his name is spelled.

And his wife Mary stood shoulder to shoulder with him. Of course you didn't notice that,eh?

Yeah,I did. Speaking of circus freaks......

The CarvIlle/Matlin freak show is just more proof that modern 'murikan politics are nothing but a freak show,put on to entertain the sheeple and keep them fooled into believing there are two parties.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-05   13:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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