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Title: Presidential Scholars: Bush Is The Worst President Of The Modern Era, Bottom Five Of All Time
Source: THINKPROGRESS
URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/
Published: Jul 1, 2010
Author: Alex Seitz-Wald
Post Date: 2010-07-01 12:49:51 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 151456
Comments: 152

Since 1982, the Siena Research Institute has polled presidential scholars on whom they view to be best and worst presidents in American history, based on a variety of issues from “integrity” to economic stewardship. This year’s poll of 238 scholars found that President Franklin Roosevelt was once again ranked on top, joined by Presidents Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington, and Teddy Roosevelt to complete the top five. However, President George W. Bush did not fare well since the last poll was conducted in 2002. He dropped 16 places to 39th, making him the worst president since Warren Harding died in office in 1923, and one of the bottom five of all time, according to the experts:

Today, just one year after leaving office, the former president has
found himself in the bottom five at 39th rated especially poorly in handling the economy, communication, ability to compromise, foreign policy accomplishments and intelligence. Rounding out the bottom five are four presidents that have held that dubious distinction each time the survey has been conducted: Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce.

Bush was rated second from the bottom on “intelligence,” “foreign policy
accomplishments,” and “handling of U.S. economy.” This despite promises from Bush supporters that “history will be very kind” to the former president, as his Attorney General John Ashcroft put it. Bush’s father’s legacy “held constant” in this year’s poll, with George H.W. Bush coming in at 22nd. President Reagan “dropped two places from 16th overall in 2002 to 18th today.” President Obama was ranked 15th. (HT: Taegan Goddard)

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#51. To: Jethro Tull (#49) (Edited)

Bahaaaaaaaa...........

Put your teeth in...I can't understand a word you're saying...

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: war (#50)

www.thefreedictionary.com/change

CHANGE

1. The act, process, or result of altering or modifying

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull, w.a.r. (#52)

Good try, but my advice is don't bother with definitions of words.

His hero can't even understand what the meaning of "is" . . . is.

If I could, I would.
But I can't, so I won't.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-07-09   8:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull (#52) (Edited)

I'll give you nine more...and then ten next week and each week thereafter and after a year maybe you'll be able to have an intelligent conversation.

How long are you going to dwell on this, Dancing Nancy? I capitulated to the prevailing double standard here. Frankly, it's really none of your business You're just an asshole poster here.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: war (#54)

How long are you going to dwell on this, Dancing Nancy?

Forever.

Each time you deny you changed that article, leaves you open to ridicule, and that I can't resist :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ignore Amos (#53)

Good try, but my advice is don't bother with definitions of words.

I know, but it's sooooooo hard not to point at IT and laugh :)

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

leaves you open to ridicule

You have a lower threshold than I do. Nothing you've done comes close to ridicule, Cheetah [snicker]...

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Jethro Tull (#56)

...but it's sooooooo hard not

Chuckles...try viagara or cialis...

war  posted on  2010-07-09   8:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: The Tool (#57)

You have a lower threshold than I do

I'm afraid not Tool. When one openly lies like yourself, and continues to lie, they've hit bottom.

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   8:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#59) (Edited)

You can repeat that lie ad infinitum.

And you're hardly one to be casting stones...

Somewhere there's a discussion of the 10 Commandments...how do you feel about the 7th?

war  posted on  2010-07-09   9:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

How long are you going to dwell on this, Dancing Nancy? Forever.

Each time you deny you changed that article, leaves you open to ridicule, and that I can't resist :P

We'll never actually know how many times dwarf did this over the past couple of years here, and elsewhere.

Does anyone actually believe this was a 'first time error in judgement' on the part of this clown?

Doubt it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-09   9:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Tool (#60)

Somewhere there's a discussion of the 10 Commandments...how do you feel about the 7th?

hahahahahaha :P

I LOVE the 7th!!!

I haven't paid attention to them since they were beat them out of me at St Thomas, many years ago.

Where does your lying fit, Tool?

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   9:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Your premise is faulty. I don't lie.

How about you and the 7th?

war  posted on  2010-07-09   9:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#63)

I don't lie.

Yeah, you do lie, and yes, I love women. My bad. You should try it some time Twinkle Toes:P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   10:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#64)

I don't lie.

(laughing)

His entire internet persona is a lie.

And Bill Clinton didn't have sex with that woman...Ms Lewinsky.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-09   10:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#64) (Edited)

So which is worse...adding "obese" into an article to accurately describe the fat fuck of a New Jersey governor or popping your co-moderator behind your wife's back - a wife to whom you promised to forsake all others?

Which is worse?

war  posted on  2010-07-09   10:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull (#64)

Hello? McFly?

war  posted on  2010-07-09   11:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war (#45)

No he's not. He'd dead on.

Well,at least he is dead,anyway.

Morality is first and foremost a Social Construct. Read Deuteronomy and Leviticus.

Wrong once again.

Tell me,where did all this "social construct" come from?

Did it fall off a tree?

Was it delivered by the Social Construct Cat?

Or maybe it came from humans?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-09   12:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#68)

Tell me,where did all this "social construct" come from?

They evolved over time, first by brute force of death or shunning, second through tradition.

The leader of a troop of silver backed monkeys will protect his mates from the occasional rival with fights to the death or he will throw stones to remove the offender from the group.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   13:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: war (#66)

So which is worse...adding "obese" into an article to accurately describe the fat fuck of a New Jersey governor or popping your co-moderator behind your wife's back - a wife to whom you promised to forsake all others?

Just too funny. It brings a whole new meaning to 4um's mission statement. I bet he gets Stone to take your comment down, he's such a pussy. Might even demand you apologize too.

He's quite regal you know.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-09   14:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: mininggold (#70) (Edited)

Hey...I was simply using the "royal" you and the "royal" your in an effort to find the perimeter of Tull's "Outrage Border".

[snicker]

war  posted on  2010-07-09   14:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#71)

Hey...I was simply using the "royal" you and the royal your in an effort to find the perimeter of Tull's "Outrage Border".

His behavior's okay though because he loves women. Morals, ethics and power have nothing to do with it.

"See in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --- George W. Bush (Rochester NY, 5-24-2005)

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-09   14:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mininggold (#70)

Just too funny. It brings a whole new meaning to 4um's mission statement.

It all makes more sense now. lol

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-09   15:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Fred Mertz (#73)

What is the mission statement? That site is blocked here.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   15:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Brian S (#0)

President Obama was ranked 15th.

That is hilarious and pathetic!

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-07-09   15:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war (#74)

I guess if you're in with the in-crowd you won't get banned.

The mission of this forum is to provide a cyberspace meeting place where lovers of individual freedom can gather to post articles and opinions about the world's events and how these events affect their unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property.

One of our fundamental rights is that of our right to freedom of association. The correlative right to freedom of association is the equally important right to freedom of non-association. Yes, the right to NOT associate -- to exclude people from our interrelationships, for any reason, based on personal preference, is also a fundamental right. This right should be free from government interference, coercion, policies, statutes, rules, regulations, codes, or force.

Another fundamental right is the right to private property -- to own and enjoy our property free from government or second-party interference, as long as one's use of that property does not trespass on the equal rights of another.

Consistent with these two fundamental unalienable rights, this forum constitutes the private property of its owners and, as such, allows for the exercise of our right to freedom of association and freedom of non-association, based on our preferences. Therefore, regarding banning policies of this forum, as they relate to the protection of private property, the owners reserve the right to suspend or terminate the posting privileges of guests on this forum at our discretion.

That said, we will endeavor to use this discretion judiciously while being mindful of not allowing guests to post on this forum who, we believe, are detrimental to the goals and values consistent with that of individual liberty.

Thank you

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-09   15:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Fred Mertz (#76)

That said, we will endeavor to use this discretion judiciously

Given how sensitive Tull is to his staion as Resident Asshole, the above should be modified.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   15:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: war (#74)

I guess when I was in Florida, Stoner got unbanned from there. I wonder what caused that to happen.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-09   15:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#77)

Where did Tull go? He seemed to be having such fun this morning here.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-07-09   15:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Fred Mertz (#79) (Edited)

Where did Tull go? He seemed to be having such fun this morning here.

Maybe he's looking for a nice clean sheet of paper and a pencil to work out the moral pose I gave him this morning.

war  posted on  2010-07-09   15:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: The Tool (#66)

So which is worse...adding "obese" into an article to accurately describe the fat fuck of a New Jersey governor or popping your co-moderator behind your wife's back - a wife to whom you promised to forsake all others?

Which is worse?

Sorry I didn't get back immediately. Life gets in the way, unlike you.

Popping? Is that code speak for the removal of festering leftist boils such as yourself and the gin sot from 4um? If yes, I plead guilty. If not, viva la Internet rumors. Given my advancing age, it's actually quite flattering of you to think otherwise :P

Am I a liberal or a conservative? - Fredo Mertz

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-07-09   20:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: sneakypete (#17)

LOL!

What an asswipe you are petey I can't be a repukelican't in name only petey because I've never been a repukelican't.

As to why fight them petey? gee petey there's this country called the United States of America, ever heard of it? Don't you have any children or grandchildren or younger family members petey?

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-19   20:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Mad Dog (#82)

I can't be a repukelican't in name only petey because I've never been a repukelican't.

Right. And war is a Independent.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-20   0:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete (#83)

LOL!

Does that tack usually work on the grade school children you usually have discussions with petey?

Or don't you have the balls to just say what you really mean little "man"?

Me a repukelican't!

THAT'S funny!

LOL!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-20   2:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Mad Dog (#84)

Does that tack usually work on the grade school children you usually have discussions with petey?

Yeah,it does,so I figured it probably wouldn't be too far above your level.

Or don't you have the balls to just say what you really mean little "man"?

*I* am not the one that is the fake veteran,pussyboy.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-20   5:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: sneakypete (#85)

You aren't all that bright are you little "man"?

We have already, (long ago), established that you are a person without any honor.

So it comes as absolutely zero surprise that a vapid little dishonorable cunt such as you calls NAVY veterans "fake" veterans.

I just checked again petey boy, the names on the Vietnam Memorial include names from all branches.

What a pitiful little cunt you are petey.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-20   17:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Mad Dog (#86)

We have already, (long ago), established that you are a person without any honor.

You mean back when it was proven that I am a VN vet,and nobody believes you are?

o it comes as absolutely zero surprise that a vapid little dishonorable cunt such as you calls NAVY veterans "fake" veterans

Blah,blah,blah. Same old shit from the same old shit. I did NOT call Navy veterans "fake veterans". I am saying YOU are a fake Navy veteran. Most likely given a "for the good of the service" discharge right from boot camp because they discovered you are a psycho.

Which is really a shame because when you are on your meds you really are a bright guy. Then you get off them,and start spewing nothing but insane obscenities and foaming at the mouth.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-07-20   20:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-20   20:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Brian S (#0)

Bush Is The Worst President Of The Modern Era, Bottom Five Of All Time

Can we define our terms here? What does "worst" mean?

In the modern era:

Carter was the most inept. Obama is getting close.

Johnson had the most destructive long term impact with Medicare and Medicaid. W. Bush was second. Nixon is definitely in this camp too. Obama may wind up beating them all.

Johnson, Carter, Bush, Nixon and Obama are all idiots so I'm not sure that it matters which one is at the very bottom, but right now I'm putting my money on Obama.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-07-20   20:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: sneakypete (#87)

LOL! Like I said before petey, you aren't all that bright are you?

The truth is petey that you were talking about the NAV, not just me, (I'd pull the quotes if I thought that you had the intellectual honesty or honor to admit that you wrote them which you do not), (or if I really cared what a dishonorable little cunt such as you "thinks").

I have posted the outlines of my NAVY service on LP. It's not my fault that you are too stupid to understand them.

What you are petey is a tantrum throwing dishonorable little cunt, who insults and disparages other veteran's service because you dislike them, AND you think that you were the only person whose service actually "mattered". I understand that petey, I understand how your insecurities and doubts make you need to build yourself up, because you are afraid that you really aren't "all that". Still it is sad to see you dishonor yourself so.

In any event petey you certainly have no standing to say who is and who is not a veteran you vile little cunt.

LOL! Besides that the entire point of your lame crap is to TRY to enrage me because I know that you know that I am the real deal. Unfortunately for you petey, doing that just shows what a dishonorable little cunt you really are little "man".

You see petey I insult YOU as an individual, I have always just insulted YOU as an individual, not your putative branch, or MOS, or unit, or service. I could certainly call you a lying POS and keep pounding you with that knowing that it would certainly get to you. I could make you cry and run away and hide behind the ignore, (you KNOW that I could). In other words I could turn your crap around and aim it right at your boiler room. But you see petey I'm NOT a dishonorable little cunt like you are, I don't play that crap.

You make me feel very sorry for you, after we went through this dance before at LP I thought that in the end that you were actually a man, and then you turn out to be just another weepy dishonorable cunt.

What happened to you petey are you having serious health or life problems? If so, I hope you get better soon.

Why did you abandon your honor?

Just to TRY to screw with me?

Sad.

Pitiful ...

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-07-20   23:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Mad Dog (#90)

Blah,blah,blah,more bullshit. All you are doing is trying to make it about the Navy so it isn't about you.

I understand that petey, I understand how your insecurities and doubts make you need to build yourself up,

ROFLMAO! Oh,yeah! I am insecure and filled with doubt about my manhood because I was a career Army NCO,instead of a pretend sailor.

In any event petey you certainly have no standing to say who is and who is not a veteran you vile little cunt.

Unlike you,I AM a VN veteran,and here YOU are calling a genuine VN veteran names. We both know why you do this,though. You are a scared little man that couldn't even hack it in the Navy, and you are jealous.

I know that you know that I am the real deal.

I know that you are a phony,and a psycho.

I could certainly call you a lying POS and keep pounding you with that knowing that it would certainly get to you.

You could also claim you have wings that fold flat on your back that allow you to fly when nobody is watching.

I could make you cry and run away and hide behind the ignore, (you KNOW that I could).

Let me make this plain as possible to you. You and your entire fucking family couldn't get me to cross the street if I didn't want to.

In other words I could turn your crap around and aim it right at your boiler room. But you see petey I'm NOT a dishonorable little cunt like you are, I don't play that crap.

What you are is crazy.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

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