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Title: Sunderland's recklessness put other sailors at risk
Source: LA Times
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion ... dolan-20100630,0,5191064.story
Published: Jun 30, 2010
Author: Sean Dolan
Post Date: 2010-06-30 15:20:15 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 9793
Comments: 37

Sunderland's recklessness put other sailors at risk Search-and-rescue operations are often tasked to commercial crews. Sunderland should have had the basic resources to deal with emergencies on her own. Sean Dolan

June 30, 2010

Now that Abby Sunderland is safe and sound and the major part of the hullabaloo about her distress and rescue has died down, I would like to weigh in with some thoughts from the perspective of 36 years at sea, with 18 of them spent as captain and chief mate of a number of container ships.

I am not going to speak to the question of Mr. and Mrs. Sunderland's parental wisdom — or lack thereof — in encouraging, allowing, and facilitating Abby's ill-conceived voyage. I'll leave that to the psychologists and social workers.

I do want to address the Sunderlands' irresponsibility toward fellow sailors in allowing Abby to go to sea so ill-prepared to handle an emergency on her own. The fact that Abby was dismasted with no spare mast on board — and without the means or the personnel to erect one even if she did have a spare —highlights the lack of preparation made to meet reasonably possible emergencies with her own resources. This lack of preparation was bad enough, but then for Abby to be sailing so far offshore in waters notoriously severe that she was unable to motor to the nearest port on her own brings this whole venture well into the realm of irresponsible recklessness.

In spite of the Sunderlands statements regarding their desire to encourage their children to be independent, fearless adventurers, it is obvious the Sunderlands' primary plan to deal with an emergency was to immediately call for help from the world's search and rescue services. So much for teaching your children independence and self-reliance.

Unfortunately, a call to the various rescue services all too often ends up being tasked to merchant ships and their sailors, just as it was in Abby's case when a French fishing vessel was dispatched to her aid. Setting aside the fact of the formidable costs involved in mounting a rescue, I wonder if the Sunderlands have ever given any thought to the dangers and hazards faced by rescuers going after someone. The decision to place members of my crew in danger so as to rescue some ill-prepared single-handed yachtsman was not one that I relished. Trying to bring someone on board when the seas are running high is very dangerous to all involved.

Don't forget that rescue ships are often required to venture into dangerous waters and conditions — waters and conditions that the captain's good judgment and seamanship would otherwise tell him to stay out of. What if the French fishing vessel was running to stay out of the seas and storms that ended up dismasting Abby's boat, only to be told to turn around and go back into them? What dangers did these fishermen unnecessarily face to rescue Abby, who, by the fact of her dismasting, obviously had no business being out where she was? I wonder what the Sunderlands would say to the families of any of these sailors or the crew of the airliner that flew out to locate Abby if any of them had been killed or injured in the attempt.

I hope the Sunderlands will in the future show more sense and some good seamanship in these ventures. Better contingency planning would be a big help. Lacking that, I hope they and their sponsors will see fit to pay for and send a seaworthy, well equipped support vessel along on the voyage of their next child. If that doesn't suit their sense of adventure, I would encourage them to post a $200 million dollar bond to cover the expenses of the next rescue.

I further hope the Sunderlands will use whatever profits they may make from any TV or book deals they come up with to reimburse the Australians and the French fishing boat owners and crew for their expenses. In all fairness, the rest of us, whomever we may be, should not have to bear the cost and the brunt of their ill-conceived larks.

Sean Dolan is a Merchant Marine captain

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#1. To: All (#0)

In spite of the Sunderlands statements regarding their desire to encourage their children to be independent, fearless adventurers, it is obvious the Sunderlands' primary plan to deal with an emergency was to immediately call for help from the world's search and rescue services. So much for teaching your children independence and self-reliance.

Indeed.

I've also been wondering how it is she was not required to go to highschool. And where are children's services?

If it was a minority child, they'd be all over this.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-30   15:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1)

How's about you shut the fuck up until you've raised a few kids.

To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-06-30   19:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Abu el Banat (#2)

How's about you shut the fuck up until you've raised a few kids.

I'm surprised he hasn't claimed a couple of Nobel Prize winners yet.

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-06-30   21:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#1)

The best decision that you ever made was not procreating, Boofer.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-30   21:27:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

The best decision that you ever made was not procreating, Boofer.

Thank God!

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-06-30   21:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Abu el Banat (#2)

The worst parent in the world is the one who never had kids.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-30   22:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#1)

Respond retard.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-30   23:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Abu el Banat (#2)

Oh ABBA...take a chance on me!

(laughing)

You putz.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   9:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

Whats a matter, Grammar King? Lose your money at the track again?

Dumbass.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   9:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#9)

Chuckles...bump it again, dumbfuck...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-01   10:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#1)

So much for teaching your children independence and self-reliance.

Just by setting out on such a trip, she exhibited more "independence and self-reliance" than you ever thought of.

(Kinda rough to be shown up by a 16-year old girl, isn't it)

If it was a minority child, they'd be all over this.

What a totally nutty thing to say!

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-01   11:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lucysmom (#11)

Don't know much about sailing, and didn't read the article, huh?

Do you have any idea what it cost to save this child? Do you have any idea how irresponsible it was for her parents to send her out, without the proper equipment?

Do you know it was done so they could get a freakin REALITY SHOW DEAL?

Guess not.

This child exhibited she has idiot parents, thats all. I'm not questioning her character, nor her bravery. Nobody is...you just feel the need to pretend otherwise.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   11:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Badeye (#12)

Don't know much about sailing, and didn't read the article, huh?

Do you have any idea what it cost to save this child? Do you have any idea how irresponsible it was for her parents to send her out, without the proper equipment?

I've done a little bit of sailing.

From the article:

If that doesn't suit their sense of adventure, I would encourage them to post a $200 million dollar bond to cover the expenses of the next rescue.

Oddly enough, that 200 million dollar bond might be in conflict with international agreement.

...the countries involved in the rescue effort have brushed off questions about the cost of the rescue and have no plans to seek recompense. Rescues at sea are a no-cost agreement under international conventions regarding maritime search and rescue operations.

If she was sent out without the proper equipment perhaps the Coast Guard will get involved, however it was her equipment that made it possible to locate her.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-01   12:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#13) (Edited)

I've done a little bit of sailing.

(laughing)

Then shut the hell up.

some of us have done more than 'a little', and been in the IO, the Med, the Atlantic, and the Pacific.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   12:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#11)

Just by setting out on such a trip, she exhibited more "independence and self-reliance" than you ever thought of.

The art of adventure and self reliance is lost on the urban pansy types. Plus their just plain lack of curiosity and obsessive need for safety uber alles. Franklin warned us about them, but they already have a strangle hold on this nation.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-01   13:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mininggold (#15)

Why are you now attacking people like the anti groupie?

(laughing)

God you're an idiot.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   13:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#16)

Why are you now attacking people like the anti groupie?

(laughing)

God you're an idiot.

Then that means you are agreeing with him.

LOLOL

God, you are boring.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-01   13:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#14)

some of us have done more than 'a little', and been in the IO, the Med, the Atlantic, and the Pacific.

Passenger or crew?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-01   13:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mininggold (#17)

LOLOL

God, you are boring.

He's sucked the life right out of this site.

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-01   13:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Skip Intro (#19)

He's sucked the life right out of this site.

He needs other's energy just to exist. Like some giant parasite.

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-07-01   13:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#18)

Crew.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#17)

And yet you ping me incessantly, kookie.

And you always make comments to me based on false guesses.

Like this. I don't live in an 'urban' area, dumbass.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Skip Intro (#19)

Yeah, thats it skippy. (eyes rolling)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#23)

I want to congratulate you on your nearly 150 pointless posts yesterday. I was rooting for you to hit the big 200.

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-01   14:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mininggold (#15)

The art of adventure and self reliance is lost on the urban pansy types.

Naa - its just morphed into name calling on the interne.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-07-01   14:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Badeye (#21)

omg, were you in the navy??!!

To the first, your mother and sister both thought I was a great fuck. And eagerly accepted the two dollar tip on top of the five dollars they charge for the 'twofer' ... Badeye

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-07-01   14:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Badeye (#14)

some of us have done more than 'a little', and been in the IO, the Med, the Atlantic, and the Pacific.

They still have sailing ships in the navy?

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-01   14:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Skip Intro (#24)

THanks skippy!

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Abu el Banat (#26)

omg, are you having a reunion tour, ABBA?

(chuckle)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Skip Intro (#27)

Gee, skippy, only for 200 years and counting.

Stick to something you know...like government checks and play acting on the internet.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Badeye (#30) (Edited)

Gee, skippy, only for 200 years and counting.

And which one were you on that gives you all that real-world sailing experience?

You're such a pompous fool that this is just getting too easy.

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-01   14:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Skip Intro (#31)

Gee, skippy, only for 200 years and counting.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   14:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Badeye (#32)

What was the name of that sailing ship you gained all of your extensive sailing experience on again? I don't see anything in your post above.

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-01   16:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Skip Intro (#33)

Gee, skippy, only for 200 years and counting.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   16:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Badeye (#34) (Edited)

Another day, another set of Badeye lies.

Were you with Mad Dog the day he single handedly shot down 3 MIGS, 60% of the US Navy total in VN?

"The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is." - Rush Limbaugh

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-07-01   16:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Skip Intro (#35)

Wrong again, skippy. You aren't worth a lie to me. Its obvious you desperately need to think otherwise, however.

Kinda pathetic, but typical of internet forums.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-07-01   16:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Badeye (#14)

some of us have done more than 'a little', and been in the IO, the Med, the Atlantic, and the Pacific.

(eyes rolling)

Here we go again...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-07-02   8:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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