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Title: When Asked How Old the Earth Is, Rand Paul Shrugs
Source: FDL
URL Source: http://firedoglake.com/2010/06/29/w ... the-earth-is-rand-paul-shrugs/
Published: Jun 29, 2010
Author: FDL
Post Date: 2010-06-29 19:07:07 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 17148
Comments: 36

A couple days ago, Randy spoke at an organization called Christian Homeschool Educators of Kentucky (CHEK), which is dedicated to, “Protect children from mental physical, emotional, and sexual abuse by secular humanists in a socialist society or governmental system.”(via Barefoot and Progressive).

Then he made the mistake of taking questions.

QUESTION: Was there a point in life where you became a Christian [...] and also, how old is the world?

PAUL: I forgot to say I was only taking easy questions (crowd laughs). [...] I’m gonna have to pass on the age of the earth. I think I’m just gonna have to pass on that one.

Uh, really? That’s pretty settled science, Dr. Paul. You know, “science“?

Paul, a Presbyterian layman, campaigned at a Christian Home Educators of Kentucky convention where he was peppered with questions about his religious beliefs, brushing aside one about the age of the earth that he later described as ridiculous.

“I’m not running for minister,” Paul said later. “I’m more than willing to stand up and say I’m a Christian, but I don’t think I have to go into every detail of what my religious beliefs are.

So Randy’s either shamelessly pandering to the snake handlers, or a flat-earther himself.

It’s notable that Randy was completely willing to express skepticism about the 1964 Civil Rights Act on national teevee, but can’t quite manage to state the age of the planet in front of 300 people in Bowling Green Louisville, KY. Subscribe to *Elections 2010*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Only idiots think that men in white lab suits have a clue about the age of the earth. The joke is on them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-29   20:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

So, how old do you think this planet is?

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-06-29   20:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#2)

You tell me first and tell me how you conclude that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-29   20:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#2)

Put it this way. There is no credible evidence the earth is billions of years old. I will go with the word of God and the people who WERE there and recorded it for all mankind. So I would say several thousand years old. Nothing else in the Bible has ever been proven wrong. I'll stick with the gold standard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-29   20:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Nothing else in the Bible has ever been proven wrong. I'll stick with the gold standard.

I lean toward the 'science'. Just a "several thousand years old" is laughable, indeed.

I'm certain this is something that we will never agree upon so I'll leave it at that.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-06-29   20:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Nothing in the Bible has ever been proven wrong.

Nothing in the Bible has been proven true. That is the Gold Standard.

Men in white lab coats don't date the earth. Geologists who get their hands dirty do.

You have your faith and that is fine but stipulating to the truth of Genesis...how did Cain have anyone to marry?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-29   21:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#5)

I lean toward the 'science'.

You know there are both old earth creationists and young earth ones, but since you are too stupid to explain the argument, I might as well let it go.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-06-29   21:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

You know there are both old earth creationists and young earth ones

(Chuckle), eyes rolling.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-06-29   21:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Brian S (#0)

Hey Brian the Progressive-Leftist simpleton - Is this actually supposed to invalidate the credibility of Rand Paul as a legislator?

Yeah - Maybe Secular Humanism's evolutionary equations, "Nothing + Nothing = Something," and "Bonzo + Gorilla DNA = Man" is (cough) the way it all happened.

Liberator  posted on  2010-06-29   21:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Brian S (#5)

I lean toward the 'science'.

Docking your fat azz onto Mr. Spock's microscope doesn't validate your quirky opinion.

Liberator  posted on  2010-06-29   21:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#4)

So I would say several thousand years old.

I've seen Indian arrow heads much older than that.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-29   21:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Only idiots think that men in white lab suits have a clue about the age of the earth. The joke is on them.

But...but...they have scientific degrees from the Wizard of Oz!

They can prove N-O-T-H-I-N-G yet insist that the rest of us buy their Religion of Scientific Theory.

Liberator  posted on  2010-06-29   21:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

I've seen Indian arrow heads much older than that.

No you haven't. God's just screwing around with you.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-06-29   22:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#12)

How old is the earth?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-29   22:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

"So I would say several thousand years old."

"I've seen Indian arrow heads much older than that."

PT Barnum would have luuuuved you....

"Anything man can imagine, man can create..for fame and fortune!"~ ME

Goldi: "He is so offensive, he makes me dislike all people of his color."

Murron  posted on  2010-06-29   22:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

How old is the earth?

I think it's about 5-6 days older than Adam and Eve...could be wrong, but not by much...

Goldi: "He is so offensive, he makes me dislike all people of his color."

Murron  posted on  2010-06-29   22:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Put it this way. There is no credible evidence the earth is billions of years old.

None whatsoever. Yet the Secular Humanist Cabal of "Scientific pontiffs" insist their fairy tale is FACT.

I will go with the word of God and the people who WERE there and recorded it for all mankind. So I would say several thousand years old. Nothing else in the Bible has ever been proven wrong. I'll stick with the gold standard.

The Bible indeed recorded the order in which the Universe was created. As to its age, IMO it's certainly not in the billions or even millions of years old. I'd go with 25-100 thousand years old. That we're led to believe dinosaur bones have actually survived up to 50 million years near the earth's surface has never made any sense.

Liberator  posted on  2010-06-29   22:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Murron (#16)

I think it's about 5-6 days older than Adam and Eve...could be wrong, but not by much...

I think you're only off by about 4.5 billion years or so.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-06-29   22:13:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Murron (#15)

There's a place up the highway from me. They were installing high power lines and apparently hit some sort of Indian artifacts/graveyard. They cordoned off the area and it still is after several years.

Through the grapevine, it isn't several hundred or several thousand years old, but much older.

Don't tell Stoner...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-29   22:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19) (Edited)

They were installing high power lines and apparently hit some sort of Indian artifacts/graveyard

It's phoney. In a couple of years the indians will have a casino there, and be selling tax free cigarettes. The bogus scientists and corrupt politicians, will get a piece of the action.

Ping me when they dig up hObama's long form birth certificate.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-06-29   22:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#20)

I'm an Indian. Thanks for the tip. I'll try to get some of that action...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-29   22:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: hondo68, Fred Mertz (#20)

"In a couple of years the indians will have a casino there, and be selling tax free cigarettes."

They're in my ancestral neighborhood now, maybe I can get a piece of that action...

Goldi: "He is so offensive, he makes me dislike all people of his color."

Murron  posted on  2010-06-29   22:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Murron (#22)

Don't tell Stoner...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-29   22:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Murron (#22)

They're in my ancestral neighborhood now, maybe I can get a piece of that action...

You have reservation rights?

Making the world safe for United Fruit.

mininggold  posted on  2010-06-29   23:01:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: no gnu taxes (#7) (Edited)

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-06-30   0:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#6)

Are you that illiterate that you don't know where cain got his wife. lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-30   6:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Brian S (#5)

In other words you can't defend your position. You just believe it because someone who you think is smarter then you are said it. Ok. lol. Poor fool

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-30   6:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#6)

Nothing in the Bible has been proven true

Are you really that stupid?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-30   6:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

I've seen Indian arrow heads much older than that.

How do you know how old they are. Did they have a manufactured date on them? How old were they?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-06-30   6:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#28) (Edited)

Are you really that stupid?

No. But it's painfully obvious that I have to pretend to be in order to communicate with you.

Nothing in the Bible has been proven true.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-30   7:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#26) (Edited)

Are you that illiterate that you don't know where cain got his wife.

It would have had to have been his sister.

I can go toe to toe with you on the Bible.

True or False: Noah was commanded to get all the birds and animals in twos?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-30   7:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#31)

True or False: Noah was commanded to get all the birds and animals in twos?

I don't like to discuss it. The whole unicorn thing makes me sad.

Bartcoprules  posted on  2010-06-30   9:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#30)

Nothing in the Bible has been proven true.

In the Old Testament, the Hittites are mentioned more than 50 times, and are described as having descended from Ham's grandson Heth (Genesis 10:15). Biblical references to the Hittites include Abraham’s purchase of a burial site from Ephron the Hittite (Gen 23:1-20; 25:7-10) and King David's murder of Uriah the Hittite to cover up his sin with Bathsheba II Samuel 11:3-27).

Because no trace of this ancient civilization could be found for a long time, skeptics claimed it proved that the Bible was an unreliable source. However, in 1906-1907 and 1911-1912 when thousands of cuneiform tablets were discovered in Boghaz-keui a Hittite capital. The finds did much to further the credibility of the Bible as a historical record.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-06-30   9:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Bartcoprules (#32)

I don't like to discuss it. The whole unicorn thing makes me sad.

Gotta admit this was funny.

News Update: Owe-bama ordered eggs and toast for breakfast. ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/CNN all agree the decision to avoid bagels was 'Brilliant!' (eyes rolling)

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-30   9:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: no gnu taxes (#33)

Thanks...I can do a wikipedia on them too...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-30   9:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Only idiots think that men in white lab suits have a clue about the age of the earth. The joke is on them.

LOL!! There seems to be a multitude of simple minded antagonists who enjoy asking stupid questions like, how big is the universe or why is there light, etc. just so they have an excuse to break out into a fit of childish derision at any answer give. It is like a 4 year old telling nonsensical knock-knock jokes and laughing hysterically at their own answer.

eskimo  posted on  2010-06-30   12:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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