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Title: GOP lawmakers echo Beck's claims against Soros
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief ... cho-becks-claims-against-soros
Published: Jun 24, 2010
Author: Elise Viebeck
Post Date: 2010-06-24 10:42:10 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 2128
Comments: 5

GOP lawmakers echo Beck's claims against Soros By Elise Viebeck - 06/23/10 03:11 PM ET

Two GOP lawmakers seemed to echo talking points from Fox News host Glenn Beck about a deal made by investor George Soros..

Reps. Dan Burton (R-Ind) and Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) questioned whether Soros, who backs a number of liberal causes and Democratic candidates for office, had invested in a Brazilian oil company, Petrobras, with the knowledge that President Barack Obama might temporarily ban deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

"We don’t need to be spending Mr. Soros's money in Brazil, so he can make more money by doing offshore drilling with our taxpayer’s money," Burton said.

Burton's implication was that Soros, an investor with Petrobras and a major Obama campaign donor, profited from a loan made by the U.S. Export-Import bank to Petrobras.

Gohmert made a similar point later during a congressional special orders speech.

"This country, apparently standing for two billion dollars to help Brazil do deep exploration — and that’ll make hundreds of millions for Soros, happy dream, they make lots of money — but sometimes people in this body are torn between their constituent service, or being a part of a powerful team," he said.

Their comments echoed several made by Glenn Beck the night before on Fox News, seen after the jump:

BECK: I'm not sure if he [Soros] knew that the administration would be making a $2 billion preliminary commitment for Petrobras, for Petrobras, for exploration, just days after he strengthened his investment. Isn't that weird? You see, he's got some connections here, but I'm sure he had no idea what was coming on the other side of the circle? No. It's probably just another one of those bad luck situations for Obama, because this doesn't seem to pass the smell test at all. No. Billionaire investor dumps money into a state-controlled Brazilian oil company; days later the American administration dumps $2 billion into the exact same company. What are the odds, Gilligan?

Let's go here. George Soros starts the Center for American Process with John Podesta. John Podesta, Center for American Progress, selects the Obama transition team. Soros buys $900 million in gasoline powered bras. Then, in a completely unrelated story, BP has their oil spill. But wait a minute, who's this guy? John Podesta. John Podesta is the guy who does all the lobbying for BP? Certainly — I'm sorry, Tony Podesta — certainly no relation to John Podesta, other than they're brothers. We'll have to come back to that one later in the show. So then Center for American Progress starts to make Obama policy. This one, we'll show you, laid out by Bloomberg and The Wall Street Journal. One of the policies: cap and trade, which goes right to Crime Inc. and all of the Obama friends with the Climate Exchange in Chicago. That's weird.

Then Obama suspends the deepwater drilling at 1,500 meters. He says "Hey, hey, that's dangerous! Fifteen hundred meters, that's crazy." Petrobras is drilling at 2,777 meters. Obama knows it and loans $2 billion to Petrobras. Last stop, Petrobras shareholders get rich. Oh my gosh, we're back at the beginning: shareholder, Petrobras. Getting rich. You getting screwed. You see how this works?

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#1. To: Badeye (#0) (Edited)

Another day, another false claim, and more evidence that GOP representatives are idiots.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/bogus-brazilian-oil-claims/

Q: Did Obama loan $2 billion to Brazil’s oil company to benefit China and George Soros?

A: The president had nothing to do with the loan, which the Export-Import Bank approved for Brazil to buy U.S.-made equipment and services.

This claim stems from a "preliminary committment" made back on April 14 by the board of directors of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. The bank intends to loan up to $2 billion to finance exports to the Brazilian oil company Petróleo Brasileiro S.A., known as Petrobras, over the next several years.

The e-mail is false on two counts.

The message falsely says the decision was due to an "executive order" by the president. No presidential order was required. Furthermore, none of President Obama’s appointees had joined the Ex- Im board at the time of the vote, which was unanimous, and bipartisan. The Ex-Im Bank states: "In fact, at the time the Bank’s Board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush."

The message falsely claims that "we have absolutely no gain" from the loan. In fact, the loan is being made specifically to finance purchase by Petrobras of U.S.-made oilfield equipment and services. The mission of the Ex-Im Bank is to encourage exports by making such loans.

The bank’s chairman and president, Fred P. Hochberg, underscored the purpose of the loan during a trip to Brazil at the end of July:

Ex-Im Bank President Hochberg, July 29: I chose Brazil as my first international destination for good reason: Brazil is a powerhouse among South American economies and offers tremendous opportunities for U.S. exporters in many sectors. I want Brazilians to know that Ex-Im Bank has the will and the capacity to finance their purchases of U.S. equipment, products and services

Obama appointed Hochberg to the Ex-Im Bank on April 20, nearly a week after the board voted to approve the loan. He was confirmed May 14 and sworn in May 21.

The message claims that George Soros would "benefit most" from the loan, but that is also a baseless accusation. Soros is a favorite whipping boy of conservatives because of his early financial help to the liberal group MoveOn.org. And he is indeed a major investor in Petrobras, through his New York-based hedge-fund firm, Soros Fund Management LLC. But the hedge fund recently sold 22 million shares of common stock in the company (which carry voting rights) while buying 5.8 million shares of preferred stock (which is non-voting.) As reported by Bloomberg News, Soros reduced his stake in the company before any of the Ex-Im Bank’s promised loan has been dispensed.

There is some truth to the claim that China would benefit, but not much. Brazil recently agreed to export 200,000 barrels of oil per day to China in coming years. But that was in return for a loan by China of $10 billion, five times more than the U.S. Ex-Im Bank is lending to finance purchase of U.S. gear.

The Ex-Im Bank also would like it known that no loan has yet been made, and that the "preliminary commitment" could eventually result in either a direct loan or a loan guarantee. Either way, the Ex-Im Bank states, "no taxpayer dollars are involved." The bank is self-sustaining.


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-06-24   10:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

Take it up with Beck.

And then explain why its okay for Vietnam, China, and Cuba to drill off our shores at depths exceeding the Deepwater Horizon, but not okay for America to do so.

Added bonus: Explain how it is these nations are going to be 'safer' doing so, and 'care more' than Americans.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   10:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#2)

And then explain why its okay for Vietnam, China, and Cuba to drill off our shores at depths exceeding the Deepwater Horizon, but not okay for America to do so.

Diversion time?


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-06-24   11:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3)

Diversion time?

And inaccurate as well.

They are drilling in Cuban waters and less than the depths of Deepwater...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-24   12:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#3)

Another day, another false claim, and more evidence that GOP representatives are idiots.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/bogus-brazilian-oil-claims/

Diversion time?

GOP is bashing Beck today over at TWS.

(laughing)

Try to keep up...I'm more current than Dem Underground.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   12:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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