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Title: Cutting to heart of Obama's dilemma: 'Can the war be won?'
Source: Yahoo News
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl2805
Published: Jun 24, 2010
Author: Holly Bailey
Post Date: 2010-06-24 08:47:58 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 3133
Comments: 6

Cutting to heart of Obama's dilemma: 'Can the war be won?'

Wed Jun 23, 5:36 pm ET As President Obama concluded his Rose Garden statement revealing that he had replaced Gen. Stanley McChrystal as the top American commander in Afghanistan, a reporter shouted an impromptu question. "Can the war be won?" he yelled. The president didn't answer — perhaps because he doesn't know.

You can watch the non-answer here. (Video courtesy of ABC News.) The moment comes as the president starts to walk away:

[Profile: McChrystal spoke his mind once too often]

Obama is trying to stick to a July 2011 deadline to draw down troops in Afghanistan — but the McChrystal flap was the latest setback for an administration trying desperately to regain momentum in a conflict that's grown increasingly harder to manage as it loses public support back home.

Obama's choice of Gen. David Petraeus, who is already overseeing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as head of U.S. Central Command, will at the very least contain much of the political fallout from McChrystal's firing. Petraeus, an architect of the 2007 troop surge in Iraq, is widely respected by both Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill. His appointment will no doubt buy the White House some time politically as it fends off growing criticism from Congress over how the Afghanistan war is being prosecuted.

But with American casualties rising and no clear victory in sight, that breathing spell may prove short-lived. Obama emphasized that his announcement is a "change in personnel but ... not a change in policy." As the president noted, Petraeus is both an architect and a supporter of the strategy the U.S. is pursuing in Afghanistan.

[Photos: Gen. McChrystal removed from duty]

But continuity at the top may not help the president close ranks among his civilian advisers — a stubborn source of tension ever since the president came into office 18 months ago. Obama has been dogged again and again by the very public squabbling on war strategy among administration officials — indeed, the swipes that McChrystal took in his now-infamous Rolling Stone interview at figures such as Vice President Joe Biden bear witness to that ongoing fractious mood.

And all this dissension prompted the obvious question: If Obama can't control his staff, how can he win the war?

It's no secret to Obama that his reputation as a leader is on the line. In light of the McChrystal drama, Obama told reporters Wednesday that he had reminded members of his national security team that they needed to work together if they are ever to achieve success in Afghanistan.

[Was Obama looking for more rear ends to kick?]

In describing his decision to let McChrystal go, Obama said it wasn't about "personal insult" but more about trust. The general's behavior had undermined trust, among the troops and among his team. "War is bigger than any one man or woman," Obama said. Coming together, he said, was essential: "Doing so is not an option, but an obligation," the president warned. "I will not tolerate division."

[Read Obama's remarks in full]

Obama's ability to enforce that edict by getting his own staff under control could mean the difference between winning and losing a war he was reluctant to fight in the first place. And surmounting this challenge could reassure a growing chorus of critics that he has made the Afghan conflict his responsibility.

— Holly Bailey is a senior politics writer for Yahoo! News

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#1. To: All (#0)

The bad news for the media, and the administration is the McChrystal affair puts Afghanistan - and the losses - on the frontpage and top of the news cycle.

In competition with the oil spill disaster. BOTH are getting worse with each passing day, week and month now.

Because the mainstream media has simply refused to cover Afghanistan as they did while Bush was President, let alone as they did Iraq during the same time frame, millions of Americans are going to be shocked to learn 1)We've lost more troops in Afghanistan under Owe-bama in 15 months than we did with Bush in Eight Years....2) The original plan for the 'surge' was over 100,000 troops, and the Owe-bama administration insisted the number be kept under 50,000 'for political reasons' here domestically....3) Get reminded that both Owe-bama and Biden smeared Petraeus's planned surge in Iraq, saying it would not work. And that we would lose the war in Iraq....4) Learn Afghanistan has now gone on longer than Vietnam.

Of course, today we know it worked, and we know we won in Iraq.

For eight years, those on the Left screeched 'Quaqmire!'.

Guess what, Lefties. You got your wish.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   8:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#0)

Cutting to heart of Obama's dilemma: 'Can the war be won?'

That's the $64k question. History shows us that it's not possible for a foreign country to win a war in Afghanistan.

I listened to a retired Col. on Fox News yesterday (wanted to get the Fox perspective on the McChrystal firing). He argued that while McChrystal was a great leader, his tactics were doomed to fail in Afghanistan. His point was that Afghanistan, unlike Iraq, never had a strong central government and thus copying the Iraq model wasn't going to work. Instead, the only workable strategy, in his view, is to simply attack the Taliban wherever they are rather than focus on "winning hearts and minds" (he endorsed Biden's approach of a limited military role focused on attacking Taliban/AQ camps).

I'm not sure if he's right or not, but I don't have a whole lot of faith in the idea of sending massive numbers of troops into Afghanistan.


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-06-24   10:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#2)

Thanks for the summary.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-24   10:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#1)

Because the mainstream media has simply refused to cover Afghanistan as they did while Bush was President, let alone as they did Iraq during the same time frame, millions of Americans are going to be shocked to learn 1)We've lost more troops in Afghanistan under Owe-bama in 15 months than we did with Bush in Eight Years....2) The original plan for the 'surge' was over 100,000 troops, and the Owe-bama administration insisted the number be kept under 50,000 'for political reasons' here domestically....3) Get reminded that both Owe-bama and Biden smeared Petraeus's planned surge in Iraq, saying it would not work. And that we would lose the war in Iraq....4) Learn Afghanistan has now gone on longer than Vietnam.

12.2.09:

The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan said Wednesday he's "absolutely supportive" of the 18- month timeline for President Obama's troop surge

Gen. Stanley McChrystal told reporters, "I am absolutely supportive of the timeline," and that the time ahead would be used to build up Afghan forces to convince the people of this war-ravaged country that they can eventually take care of their own security.

1.12.10:

Gen Stanley McChrystal says troops surge is starting to work

The commander of Nato troops in Afghanistan has said that a US troop buildup in the country had started to turn the tide against the Taliban.

Asked if Nato-led forces were shifting the momentum against Taliban insurgents, the general said: "I believe we're doing it right now.

"I believe we've changed the way we operate in Afghanistan. We've changed some of our structures. I believe we are on the way to convincing the Afghan people that we are here to protect them."

--------

The head of the Defence Intelligence Agency, Lieutenant General Ronald Burgess, also struck an optimistic tone on the US-led campaign in Afghanistan but said the effect of Pakistani operations on the other side of the border remained unclear.

"I think that we have been very successful in our operations," Gen Burgess told Voice of America in an interview.


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-06-24   10:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#4)

Pssst. Its June, 2010.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   10:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#1)

Did I just read you correctly? You just took all the issues surrounding Boy Blunder's FAILED Iraqi mission and turned them into Afghanistan?

Afghanistan was never a quagmire.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-24   10:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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