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Title: Obama Relieves General Of His Afghan Command; AP reports Gen. David Petraeus to be named as top Afghan commander
Source: MSNBC/AP
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37866754/ns/us_news-military/
Published: Jun 23, 2010
Author: MSNBC/AP
Post Date: 2010-06-23 13:33:53 by Brian S
Keywords: None
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WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama has decided to relieve Gen. Stanley McChrystal of his command over all U.S. military forces in Afghanistan, sources tell NBC News.

Obama is scheduled to make an official 1:30 p.m. EDT announcement about the general. Meantime, the Associated Press reported that Obama has chosen Gen. David Petraeus to replace McChrystal as top Afghan commander.

Earlier, McChrystal was seen leaving the West Wing and climbing into a van after his nearly half-hour private showdown with the president.

Summoned to Washington to explain himself, McChrystal arrived from Kabul in the early morning and met first at the Pentagon with Defense Secretary Robert Gates. After his next face-to-face, with Obama, the general was not seen returning to the White House for a scheduled Afghanistan strategy session, as had been expected. It was not known where he went, as he did not appear at his Pentagon office, either.

Even before their showdown, the White House's rebuke of the general suggested it would be hard for him to save his job.

Before facing the president, McChrystal met with Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen at the Pentagon.

On his arrival at the Pentagon, he denied to NBC News that he's offered his resignation. "Come on, you know better than that. No!"

"I think it's clear that the article in which he and his team appeared ... showed poor judgment," the president said Tuesday at the close of an unrelated Cabinet meeting. "But I also want to make sure that I talk to him directly before I make any final decisions."

Afghan President Hamid Karzai expressed his confidence in McChrystal during a video conference Tuesday night with Obama, Karzai spokesman Waheed Omar said Wednesday in Kabul.

"We hope there is not a change of leadership of the international forces here in Afghanistan and that we continue to partner with Gen. McChrystal," Omar told reporters.

Extraordinary challenge to White House

In a Rolling Stone magazine article, McChrystal didn't criticize Obama himself but called the period last fall when the president was deciding whether to approve more troops "painful" and said Obama appeared ready to hand him an "unsellable" position.

McChrystal also said he was "betrayed" by Ambassador Karl Eikenberry, the man the White House chose to be his diplomatic partner in Afghanistan. He accused Eikenberry of raising doubts about Karzai only to give himself cover in case the U.S. effort failed. "Now, if we fail, they can say 'I told you so,'" McChrystal told the magazine. And he was quoted mocking Vice President Joe Biden.

If not insubordination, the remarks — as well as even sharper commentary about Obama and his White House from several in McChrystal's inner circle — were at least an indirect and extraordinary challenge and one that consumed Washington on Tuesday. The capital hasn't seen a similar public contretemps between a president and a top wartime commander since Harry Truman stripped Gen. Douglas MacArthur of his command more than a half-century ago after disagreements over Korean War strategy.

Notably, neither McChrystal nor his team questioned the accuracy of the story or the quotes in it. McChrystal issued an apology.

Remarkably revealing reaction Military leaders rarely challenge their commanders in chief publicly. When they do, consequences tend to be more severe than a scolding.

Indeed, the presidential spokesman's prepared reaction to the article was remarkably revealing, even for the normally coded language of Washington. Press secretary Robert Gibbs repeatedly declined to say McChrystal's job was safe, and questioned whether McChrystal is "capable and mature enough" to lead the war.

"Our efforts in Afghanistan are bigger than one person," Gibbs told reporters, a formulation typically used when one person is about to leave.

Gates, for his part, said in a statement Tuesday that McChrystal had made "a significant mistake."

A senior U.S. military official in Afghanistan told The Associated Press that McChrystal — who had not spoken with Obama on the matter before Wednesday — has been given no indication that he'll be fired but no assurance he won't be. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to describe internal discussions between Washington and the general's office in Kabul.

Obama raised the issue of McChrystal's future in a phone call with British Prime Minister David Cameron on Tuesday night, Cameron's office said Wednesday without disclosing what was said. Britain has about 10,000 troops in Afghanistan, the largest international force after the United States.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Sad but necessary.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-23   13:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

The President didn't really have any other option.

No flaming on this one from me.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-23   14:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Petraeus? I'm surprised by that choice.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-23   14:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#2)

This makes Obama look like a he-man.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-23   14:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

If he even hesitated he's in over his head.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-23   14:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

No, it scares the hell out of anyone actually following whats going on in Afghanistan.

And its hilarious then Senator Obama slammed Petraeus, lectured him on the futility of his 'surge' in Iraq...and Biden's comments towards him were even worse.

Owe-bama said Petreaus's 'surge' was a serious mistake that would fail.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-23   14:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#5)

I just read the entire Rolling Stone article, finally; it sure does paint a bleak picture of the future in Afghanistan.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-23   14:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

Dude...there is NOTHING that can be won there now. The chance was 2002-04. It got BLOWN.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-23   14:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

it sure does paint a bleak picture of the future in Afghanistan.

Just ask the 19th century British or the Russians.

The place is a nightmare.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-06-23   14:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#8) (Edited)

McChrystal is quite the cocky son of a gun. At lunch my friend told me that when McChrystal first went to the Pentagon this morning a reporter asked him if he had signed a letter of resignation and he said he hadn't.

Although unlikely, his interview could have been his way of saying goodbye and sending out some messages.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-23   14:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Skip Intro (#9) (Edited)

I've been questioning our participation there for years now.

With our current troop levels at an all time high, the stakes are also high.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-23   14:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fred Mertz (#11) (Edited)

The way to have won Afghanistan was by nuking the mountains and then invading the three main cities. Nothing short of absolute destruction would win there.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-23   14:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#10)

McChrystal is quite the cocky son of a gun.

GOP Presidential candidate, 2012.

You read it here first.

{{{chuckle}}}

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-06-23   17:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

We've now been in Afghanistan longer than in Vietnam. We've lost more troops there in the past 16 months than in the previous eight years. The original 'surge' requested was over 130 thousand troops. The administration told the planners to get the number under 50 thousand.

The last time a Whitehouse dictated troop levels in such a fashion during a shooting war was between 1964 and 1968.

Just noting.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-23   23:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All Dwarf's balllickers that see this (#8) (Edited)

The way to have won Afghanistan was by nuking the mountains and then invading the three main cities.

And from General Dwarf

The chance was 2002-04. It got BLOWN.

I'm aware dwarf is a wall street shaker and ironman and surely a military strategist nonpareil (who has "shot" at living things) and all that "stuff" but some here might like to know exactly what months in 2002-2004 that the "blowing" got done according to this obvious Pentagon Badge holder / RAND Corporation consultant.

Surely he has the knowledge though he pretends not to see my posts:):).

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-06-23   23:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Brian S (#13)

You read it here first.

But.....buttttttt....buttttt.....the "word" is from you Brian.

{{{chuckle}}}

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-06-23   23:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#6)

Owe-bama said Petreaus's 'surge' was a serious mistake that would fail.

And Cheney said the insurgency was in its last throes years before the "surge"

The difference is Obama was man enough to admit he was wrong and learn from his mistake.


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-06-24   8:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65 (#17)

And Cheney said the insurgency was in its last throes years before the "surge"

The difference is Obama was man enough to admit he was wrong and learn from his mistake.

Ah, no.

The difference is Owe-bama is President, and overseeing what can now be accurately described as a losing war in Afghanistan.

As to being 'man enough to admit he was wrong'...he hasn't done that on the failed stimulus package, he hasn't done that on the failing healthcare law (premiums are going up, 51% of company's offering healthcare can't meet his ridiculous criteria) he hasn't been man enough to admit he was wrong in the early stages of the oil spill disaster, he hasn't been man enough to admit he was wrong about the Cop v Bigot (beer summit) hasn't been man enough to admit he was wrong about the Arizona Law based on Federal regulations verbatim. He hasn't admitted, since YOU brought it up, he was WRONG about the Surge in Iraq...and he hasn't been man enough to admit he was WRONG about Petreaus or the ''General BETRAY US' Ad he to this day hasn't disavowed.

He wasn't man enough to admit he was wrong for 22 years about Reverend Wright, he hasn't been man enough to admit he was wrong about William Ayers, or Ayers laughable wife, or about picking Biden - The Dumbest Man in the Senate - as his VP.

All that aside, his strategy in Afghanistan is FAILING. More have died there then when we TOOK THE DAMN COUNTRY in the FIRST PLACE in the past 15 months of the Owe-bama Era.

And he isn't man enough to admit it. This one is costing American lives.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   8:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Brian S (#0)

Wednesday, June 23, 2010 Re: Hiring "General Betray Us" Posted by: Meredith Jessup at 11:44 PM Predictably, Move-On.org has scrubbed their website clean of their "General Betray Us" nonsense. The General was apparently only a bad guy in the Left's eyes during the days of the big, bad Bush administration.

(chuckle)

Sorry, there is no 'unringing the bell' on this one.

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   10:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Badeye (#18)

The difference is Owe-bama is President, and overseeing what can now be accurately described as a losing war in Afghanistan.

you might be right on that one.

he hasn't done that on the failed stimulus package,

Diversion time?


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-06-24   10:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye (#18)

More have died there then when we TOOK THE DAMN COUNTRY in the FIRST PLACE in the past 15 months of the Owe-bama Era.

And he isn't man enough to admit it. This one is costing American lives.

OK, so if you are angry at folks who won't admit that their war policy was a failure, and that it cost American lives, why are you so supportive of Republicans?


Being a Republicans means you get to choose your own reality

go65  posted on  2010-06-24   10:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#18) (Edited)

Chuckles...your penchant for hyperbole and inaccuracy is surpassed only by your nerve of posting a Talk Radio rant as if it is your own...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-24   10:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: go65 (#20)

Diversion time?

No...tallying time.

You want to stay focused on Owe-bama's losing war strategy, fine by me... (laughing)

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   10:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: go65 (#21)

More have died there then when we TOOK THE DAMN COUNTRY in the FIRST PLACE in the past 15 months of the Owe-bama Era. And he isn't man enough to admit it. This one is costing American lives.

OK, so if you are angry at folks who won't admit that their war policy was a failure, and that it cost American lives, why are you so supportive of Republicans?

Diversion time?

rotflmao!

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   10:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: go65 (#17)

Obama was man enough

Okay it's official.

You're way to "out there" for even the Obama Shills and Anonymous Internet Poster Bots Union.

They called - they want their money back.

If I could, I would.
But I can't, so I won't.

Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-06-24   13:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ignore Amos (#25)

(roaring with laughter)

That'll leave a mark...

Learning a man that tried to destroy your company just got sentence to 18 months in prison, and fined $600,000 will make ya a happy happy man. What a great day. Now, all I have to do is select the right card to send him in prison lol.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-24   13:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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