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Title: US general [McChrystal] summoned to Washington
Source: ALJAZEERA.NET
URL Source: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/a ... 10/06/2010622111222326834.html
Published: Jun 22, 2010
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2010-06-22 07:56:15 by Fred Mertz
Keywords: None
Views: 109106
Comments: 99

The top US military commander in Afghanistan has been summoned to Washington after criticising the administration of Barack Obama, the US president, in a magazine article.

The White House recalled General Stanley McChrystal from Afghanistan on Tuesday to explain comments he made in a Rolling Stone magazine interview to be published on Friday, military officials said.

The order came after McChrystal apologised for the controversial comments in the profile, in which he is quoted denouncing a top diplomat while his aides dismiss Obama and mock his deputies.

"I extend my sincerest apology for this profile," McChrystal said in a statement issued ahead of the article's release.

"It was a mistake reflecting poor judgement and should never happened."

McChrystal, a former special operations chief, usually speaks cautiously in public and has enjoyed mostly sympathetic US media coverage since he took over the Nato-led force last year.

"Throughout my career, I have lived by the principles of personal honour and professional integrity. What is reflected in this article falls far short of that standard," he said.

Strategy debate

In the profile, McChrystal jokes sarcastically about preparing to answer a question referring to Joe Biden, the US vice-president, known to be a sceptic of the commander's war strategy.

He also told the magazine that he felt "betrayed" by Karl Eikenberry, the US ambassador to Kabul, in a White House debate over war strategy last year.

Referring to a leaked internal memo from Eikenberry that questioned McChrystal's request for more troops, the commander said that the ambassador had tried to protect himself for "for the history books".

"I like Karl, I've known him for years, but they'd never said anything like that to us before," McChrystal said in the article.

Eikenberry, himself a former commander in Afghanistan, had written to the White House saying Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, was an unreliable partner and that a surge of troops could draw the US into an open-ended quagmire.

The article revisits the friction between the White House and the military last year as Obama debated whether to grant McChrystal's request for tens of thousands of reinforcements.

Al Jazeera's James Bays, reporting from Kabul, said that McChrystal managed to offend every single one of his key bosses with the statements in the article.

Our correspondent said that the Rolling Stone reporter managed to get high level access: "I met the reporter in Washington, DC, over a month ago after he came out of a meeting inside the White House with McChrystal's advisors.

"This incident shows the tensions that exist between the top advisors here in Afghanistan. What will happen now is how this agreement is viewed on Capitol Hill and on the Afghan street.

"The Taliban is also trying to win over the Afghan people. There is certainly very little disunity normally in the Taliban."

Further turmoil

Meanwhile, as foreign forces in Afghanistan marked another grim milestone in their war against the Taliban, signs of cracks in the alliance surfaced.

After 10 soldiers were killed in a single day, there was further turmoil for Nato as Britain announced that Sherard Cowper-Coles, its special envoy to Afghanistan, was taking "extended leave".

William Hague, Britain's foreign secretary, is to review the post of special envoy to Afghanistan, the BBC reported.

The news of Cowper-Coles's departure came amid reports that he had clashed with military officials over strategy, just a month ahead of a crucial international conference in the Afghan city of Kabul.

The Guardian newspaper reported there had been serious disagreements in recent months between Cowper-Coles and officials from Nato.

It said that Cowper-Coles was convinced the military-focused counter-insurgency effort was headed for failure and wanted talks with Taliban fighters to be a priority.

The Taliban, however, has so far rejected a plan drawn up at a landmark Kabul peace meeting to give jobs and money to those who lay down arms.

Last month they promised a new campaign of attacks on diplomats, lawmakers and foreign forces.

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#1. To: All, sneakypete (#0)

Under normal circumstances I would say that McChrystal would be fired and replaced ASAP. However, with the Afghanistan war being such a long term and controversial quagmire, firing McChrystal will only make things worse IMO.

I guess I don't know what will happen to McChrystal right now. Maybe a beer summit?

What do you think, petey?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-22   8:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete, All (#1)

I can tell you strait up that this confirms Everything us DirtyF ucking Hippies have been saying since Obama 'created' his War Staff Nov 08.

And that 052010 might as well be a Major Leg Artery bleeding out for the Ruling Class.

The PTB are forced to turn their attention to the NOGC+ Florida.

The US now loses it's Empire. That we can get all of our forces home now is the question.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-06-22   8:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

Systemic Crisis of the World Economy: Global Geopolitical Dislocation Four Single Points of Failure: Strategic, Financial, Economic and Social Convulsions

Global Research, June 21, 2010 GlobalEurope Anticipation Bulletin, GEAB N°46-Special Summer 2010 - 2010-06-16

Each day the news confirm the extent to which the global systemic crisis has now entered into the phase of global geopolitical dislocation, even if the media only timidly begin to interpret the historic upheavals which unfold before our own eyes.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-06-22   8:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

And the GOP is a Dead Zombie Party Walking:

Is there an issue that they're not wrong footed on?

" But when Tapper asked about Texas Rep. Joe Barton's offer to suck Tony Hayward's CEO dick while fingering his own own asshole, Emanuel showed just how to use a carving knife: "It's dangerous for the American people, because while the ranking Republican would have oversight into the energy industry, and if the Republicans were the majority, would have actually the gavel and the chairmanship. That's not a political gaffe, those were prepared remarks. That is a philosophy. That is an approach to what they see."

So Sarah Palin's thong was already twisted when Emanuel started offering up pieces of the GOP for devouring, as when he said, "The approach here expressed and supported by other voices in the Republican Party, sees the aggrieved party as BP, not the American -- not the fishermen and the communities down there affected. And that would the governing philosophy. And I think what Joe Barton did is remind the American people, in case they've forgotten, this is how the Republicans would govern."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-06-22   8:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4) (Edited)

"The earth is not dying, it is being killed. And those who are killing it have names and addresses." Utah Phillips.

McChrystal of Cheney Death Squad Fame.

And now cheney lives with historic infamy, both foreign and domestic. And his Karmic Wheel is only just starting to turn.

what is it about a ruling class that some people are determined not to understand 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-06-22   8:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mcgowanjm (#5)

McChrystal of Cheney Death Squad Fame.

McChrystal was involved with the Pat Tillman unfriendly fire cover up; I'd assume the military was under orders from Rumsfeld to do what they did.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-22   8:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

McChrystal was involved with the Pat Tillman unfriendly fire cover up; I'd assume the military was under orders from Rumsfeld to do what they did.

With Rumsfeld under orders as well. ;}

Sep 10, 2011:

Rumsfeld: '$2.3 Trillion is missing from the Pentagon.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-06-22   9:21:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#0)

McChrystal fucked up here. If you are going to trash the Commander in Chief, you resign first.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-22   9:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye (#8)

I don't see how he did that. He made an off the cuff remark about Obama seeming unprepared in their first meeting; that's not trashing the president IMO. Of course, I doubt McChrystal ever expected his comment to see the light of day.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-22   9:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

Of course, I doubt McChrystal ever expected his comment to see the light of day.

Riiiight. He gave an interview to ROLLING STONE, and didn' think his comments (plural, freddie) wouldn't see the light of day....(eyes rolling)

Stick to taunting our host til you actually catch up on the details of this particular story, freddie.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-22   9:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#10)

Do you think he'll be fired?

Right now I don't think so.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-22   9:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fred Mertz (#11)

He should be. My view on this sort of thing doesn't change with who is in the Whitehouse.

Civilian control, via the President, is how this works. MCChrystal knew what he was saying, knew it would be published.

If he didn't, he's not smart enough for the job he currently holds. This is 'political' and a far reaching attack on the civilian authority he is required to obey.

Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.

Badeye  posted on  2010-06-22   9:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#11) (Edited)

Do you think he'll be fired?

I think he should be.

I don't think Obama will, tho. I do expect the wheels to be set immediately into motion for his replacement and he resigns just before Labor Day when no one is paying attention to anything.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-22   9:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#13)

I'll say around Thanksgiving time. I'm sure they already have his replacement selected though I'm not sure who it might be.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-22   10:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Fred Mertz (#14) (Edited)

I find active duty officers going off the reservation to be one of the more disturbing aspects of "politics"...

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-22   10:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#0)

Defense Secretary Gates Statement on McChrystal Profile
http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=13628
Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:59:00 -0500

________________________________

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 520-10
June 22, 2010 ________________________________
Defense Secretary Gates Statement on McChrystal Profile

"I read with concern the profile piece on Gen. Stanley McChrystal in the upcoming edition of 'Rolling Stone' magazine. I believe that Gen. McChrystal made a significant mistake and exercised poor judgment in this case. We are fighting a war against al Qaeda and its extremist allies, who directly threaten the United States, Afghanistan, and our friends and allies around the world. Going forward, we must pursue this mission with a unity of purpose. Our troops and coalition partners are making extraordinary sacrifices on behalf of our security, and our singular focus must be on supporting them and succeeding in Afghanistan without such distractions. Gen. McChrystal has apologized to me and is similarly reaching out to others named in this article to apologize to them as well. I have recalled Gen. McChrystal to Washington to discuss this in person."

U.S. Department of Defense
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-22   13:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

What do you think, petey?

I think the whole situation is a clusterbleep.

I don't see how Barry Soetoro can NOT fire McChrystal. It's almost a requirement now.

I don't feel sorry for McChrystal for two reasons,though. Number 1 is he is a Obomite,and number 2 he should have just called a news conference long ago to announce his retirement because he couldn't in good conscience follow orders he knew to be both dangerous to his troops and pointless.

Instead he chose to stay silent all this time because he put his career ahead of his duty.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-22   21:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#15)

I find active duty officers going off the reservation to be one of the more disturbing aspects of "politics"...

If by "going off the tracks" you mean publicly protesting the orders,tactics,and strategy of their civilian masters,I disagree.

There is not only nothing wrong with it,but they have a OBLIGATION to do so.

Their loyalty is to the US Constitution,the country itself,and the men and women under their command,not any political leader.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-22   21:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#17)

McChrystal and his staff had good vibes and relationships with Hillary. That's what surprised me most about this.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-22   21:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#18)

They swore an oath to the USCON under which the POTUS is their commander and their rules of behavior [UCMJ] are set by Congress.

Look...I have respect for both his uniform and his rank and I have respect for his opinions as well. I just get uneasy. What happens when we get a general who can convince soldiers under his command that the USCON is just a "goddammed piece of paper"? He has to be fired. And then given a parade.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-22   22:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#18)

Liberals "feel" an officer's oath is to the CIC.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-06-22   22:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war, sneakypete (#20)

What happens when we get a general who can convince soldiers under his command that the USCON is just a "goddammed piece of paper"?

If the oath were to CIC rather than the Constitution it would far more catastrophic to have a CIC that felt the Constitution is just a "a piece of paper".

You really are dumber than a box of rocks.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-06-22   22:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#1)

I guess I don't know what will happen to McChrystal right now. Maybe a beer summit?

Fred...rather than the beer summit maybe barack could try one of his newly found ass kicking routines out on the General.

Your a betting man I gather....what might be the "line" on that match?

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-06-22   23:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: e_type_jag (#23)

3-1 McChrystal stays in his job.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-06-23   0:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#17)

Number 1 is he is a Obomite

That he is.....as such not a single concern for the bus that will soon roll over the top of this guy.

Maybe barack can just appoint a military czar from his rollodex of chicago yes-man cronies and be done with this potentially embarrassing string of unpredictable career military guys.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-06-23   0:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

Is that the LV line or your line?.....either way I'm surprised cause I'm sure he's got to be "gone" for clearly stepping far off the reservation......especially when barack needs to look tough right now.

Kick ass and all that stuff.....

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Below is positively the most hilariously BS overflowing comment from the resident obamunist spent-condom EVER:) "This is WHY I left the GOP in the mid 90's. ." Dwarf

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-06-23   0:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

I'll take that.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-23   8:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

McChrystal and his staff had good vibes and relationships with Hillary. That's what surprised me most about this.

I seriously think a lot of Barry's current problems are a result of Hillary making her 2012 moves.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-23   10:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#20)

They swore an oath to the USCON under which the POTUS is their commander and their rules of behavior [UCMJ] are set by Congress.

PARTIALLY true. They swear a oath to the country and the US Constitution. There is no such thing as a loyalty oath to a president.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-23   10:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

3-1 McChrystal stays in his job.

Well,we already know Barry if pretty bleeping stupid,so I guess that is possible.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-23   10:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#29)

I never said that there was.

Again, the USCON - to which they've sworn the oath - designates POTUS their Commander in Chief and the same USCON designates the Congress as the rule making body for the military. What does the UCMJ demand in this regard?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-23   10:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#31)

I never said that there was.

No,but you danced right up to the line and implied it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-23   10:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#32) (Edited)

My contributions on threads such as these are framed in the context that the military is constitionally subservient to civilian authorities.

I could not tell you how long it's been that I have understood the bifurcation between POTUS and commnader-in-chief but it's easily been 30+ years.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-23   10:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#17)

2 he should have just called a news conference long ago to announce his retirement because he couldn't in good conscience follow orders he knew to be both dangerous to his troops and pointless.

Didn't Obama give him what he wanted?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-06-23   10:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#31)

What does the UCMJ demand in this regard?

The maximum is dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-06-23   10:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#33)

My contributions on threads such as these are framed in the context that the military is constitionally subservient to civilian authorities.

I understand that,but you seem to be unable to see the trees for the forest.

McChrystal isn't the military. He is a individual soldier who just happens to be in a position where he not only had a right to speak up,but where his position DEMANDS he speak up. Granted,he did it wrong because he should have chosen to speak up at the press conference he called to announce his resignation,but he was still obligated to speak out.

Country ahead of career.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-23   11:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lucysmom (#34)

Didn't Obama give him what he wanted?

Apparently not.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-23   11:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: sneakypete, lucysmom (#37)

No...about 2/3rd's of what he wanted.

When a CIC starts doubting his field commanders it's time to fire the guy or end the war.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace I'm biased, obviously, given the shit I'm subjected to daily here from the anti groupie. Badeye posted on 2010-06-10 11:34:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-06-23   11:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: lucysmom (#35)

What does the UCMJ demand in this regard? The maximum is dismissal, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

WRONG!

We do NOT live in the leftist police state that you admire so much. We live in a free country (barely) where the military take loyalty oaths to the Constitution,not a political leader.

Your idols Adolph,Mao, and Uncle Joe had the system you think we have and that you admire,though.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-23   11:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#39)

WRONG!

The UCMI has been around since the founding fathers and that's what it says.

Your idols Adolph,Mao, and Uncle Joe had the system you think we have and that you admire,though.

What a pile of poop!

lucysmom  posted on  2010-06-23   11:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom (#40)

WRONG! The UCMI has been around since the founding fathers and that's what it says.

You don't have the first bleeping clue about what the UMCJ says.

Just in case your communist mind is still confused,US Military members are NOT slaves and they do NOT owe their allegiance to any political leader.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-06-23   13:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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