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Title: Liberty's Flame Online
Source: Liberty's Flame
URL Source: http://www.libertysflame.com
Published: Feb 15, 2006
Author: Neil McIver
Post Date: 2006-02-15 04:49:57 by Neil McIver
Keywords: Libertys, Online, Flame
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Neil McIver  posted on  2006-02-15   4:52:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Neil McIver, BrianS (#1)

Goldi just banned Brian for an anti- Semitic remark.

Considering that she allows the unabashed slander of the entire Islamic faith, the hypocrisy is getting too much to take.

Let me know if you are going to license this software for use generally as you once indicated. I have had a hunger to start a forum for quite some time, and your software is far better then any other open source offering out there.

- Regards, Mike McCarthy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-02-21   12:43:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike, Brian S (#12)

Hey, Ferret Mike, good to see you. I didn't realize Goldi gave Brian S the boot. Is it a permanent thing?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-02-21   12:45:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Fred Mertz (#13)

She just banned him, and didn't indicate it was anything but a permanent action.

Of course I weighted right in with charges of hypocrisy as she has partaken in anti Islamic bigotry herself, and she lets the Crystalks run wild there.

Hey, if you are going to throw rocks, don't live in a glass house. I'm tired of the hypocrisy of protection for one religion, but articles calling the Roman Catholic Church the work of Satan, and a constant treatment of a billion Muslims like they are guilty of the actions of a few is hypocrisy.

Neil wouldn't allow anti Islamic bigotry at LP when he was there, and if you ant to be fair, you don't allow any religion to be scapegoated for the actions of a few. You don't just protect one or two and call it good.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-02-21   12:51:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

Neil wouldn't allow anti Islamic bigotry at LP when he was there, and if you ant to be fair, you don't allow any religion to be scapegoated for the actions of a few. You don't just protect one or two and call it good.

My position was that religion/faith was fair game, regardless of whether it was christianity, islam or judaism, but that slaming groups of people on the basis of faith was not. Might be a fine line sometimes, but... many lines are fine when it comes to moderating anything but the tiniest set of rules.

I didn't want a rule that unfairly protected jews without also protecting others, and it seems that jews have a tendency to take a lot more bashing on forums, as happened elsewhere it was permited.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-02-21 13:00:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

9. To: Brian S (#5) For over a year I have turned a blind eye to many of your remarks.

For over a year, I have permitted biased and anti-semetic articles to be posted here in the spirit of free speech, although I personally found them repugnant.

I have only removed 2 or 3 in the past year as being way over the top, and yet you have persisted in antagonizing me for each that I had to remove.

You have resisted any attempt to work with LP and insisted on posting articles that you know would cause issues.

You have ridiculed Jews, made anti- semetic comments, and said things primarily to provoke a reaction.

And although I tried over and over to ignore it and still keep LP civil, you continued to raise the bar.

Today, you finally convinced me that you have no interest in being civil; you have indicated your complete disrespect for me and for LP, and LP members. Your antagonism has finally made it imperitive that I ban you.

It is not something I enjoy doing, nor do I want to.

Your actions have made it mandatory.

So, it is you and you alone that have made this action necessary.

It's too bad your hatred of Jews and me has made you so sour and nasty to so many. Your membership here has not been a positive one.

Goodbye Brian.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-02-21 11:34:32 ET

Well now that I've searched the incident it looks as if it is permanent. Your comment/reply helped point out her hypcocrisy.

She gave Aristeides a time out and he's not been back (posting) since.

palo verde opused the other night.

Goldi is destroying that place all by herself.

And I, mr. softy, am sending her a c-note of support. I'm good on my word though I wish now that I hadn't pledged it.

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