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Title: Doctors Group Says Bush Administration Conducted Medical Experiments On Detainees
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RAW STORY
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0607/do ... medical-experiments-detainees/
Published: Jun 7, 2010
Author: RAW STORY
Post Date: 2010-06-07 11:18:03 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 9373
Comments: 59
A new report by the watchdog group Physicians for Human Rights alleges Monday that the Bush Administration experimented on terrorism suspects during their enhanced interrogation program put in force starting in 2002. The group's review, which examined Bush-era documentation, asserts that the administration violated laws set up in the wake of the Holocaust to prevent medical testing on prisoners of war. (Nazi doctors sometimes experimented on their prisoners.) The report states that, "Medical personnel were required to monitor all waterboarding practices and collect detailed medical information that was used to design, develop and deploy subsequent waterboarding procedures." Notes the Associated Press: For example, the report said, doctors recommended adding salt to the water used for waterboarding, so the patient wouldn't experience hyponatremia, "a condition of low sodium levels in the blood caused by free water intoxication." The report interpreted that doctor-recommended practice of using saline solution as "Waterboarding 2.0." It also said information was gathered on the pain inflicted when various techniques were used in combination. Raymond said the purpose was to see if the pain caused violated Bush administration definitions of torture, rather than as a safeguard of the detainees' health. Medical personnel, the report said, also monitored sleep deprivation, with sleepless stints from 48 hours to 180 hours — again to make sure it did not cause prolonged physical and mental suffering, as per those Bush administration definitions, rather than to watch out for harm to the detainee. "We're not writing the indictment here," author Nathaniel Raymond told the Associated Pres. "We're seeing there needs to be a search warrant. If the White House does not act on this, it's turning its back on something that could be perceived as a war crime." The CIA vehemently denied the allegations in the report. "The CIA did not, as part of its past detention program, conduct human subject research on any detainee or group of detainees," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano told a reporter. Mother Jones, the investigative liberal magazine, says that the Bush Administration may have -- ironically -- engaged in "experimentation" in an effort to shield it from accusations of torture. In the documents review by the watchdog group, a Bush Administration lawyer wrote, "Human experimentation without the consent of the subject is a violation of international human rights law to which the United States is subject; federal statutes; the Common Rule, which comprises the federal regulations for research on human subjects and applies to 17 federal agencies, including the Central Intelligence Agency and the Department of Defense; and universally accepted health professional ethics, including the Nuremberg Code... Human experimentation on detainees also can constitute a war crime and a crime against humanity in certain circumstances." "Ironically, one goal of the 'experimentation' seems to have been to immunize Bush administration officials and CIA interrogators from potential prosecution for torture," writes Mother Jones' Nick Baumann. "In the series of legal papers that are now popularly known as the 'torture memos,' Justice Department lawyers argued that medical monitoring would demonstrate that interrogators didn't intend to harm detainees; that 'lack of intent to cause harm' could then serve as the cornerstone of a legal defense should an interrogator be targeted for prosecution. In 2003, in an internal CIA memo cited in the PHR report, the CIA's general counsel, Scott Muller, argued that medical monitoring of interrogations and 'reviewing evidence gained from past experience where available (including experience gained in the course of U.S. interrogations of detainees)' would allow interrogators to inoculate themselves against claims of torture because it 'established' they didn't intend to cause harm to the detainees."
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#19. To: Badeye (#18)
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Reagan's DOJ Prosecuted Texas Sheriff For Waterboarding Prisoners
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Wrong answer.
The waterboarding performed by the CIA was careful and measured. When you moonbats bring up Japan or that Texas sheriff and other such comparisons, you are comparing apples to oranges.
On Jan. 21, 1968, The Washington Post ran a front-page photo of a U.S. soldier supervising the waterboarding of a captured North Vietnamese soldier near Da Nang. The caption said the technique induced "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning, meant to make him talk." This picture led to an Army investigation and, two months later, the court martial of the soldier.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
How many did it get killed?
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Ya wohl, Herr Himmler!
Riiight...as we saw, Doctors were present taking notes and observing... Of course, that was against the law too...but oh well...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Notice who fled this thread, btw? World class...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Yep...I'm outie too....later
Fair enough. Any American life but yours. How's that? (laughing)
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
How many new enemy/terrorists did torture help recruit? How many Americans did it kill? How's that?
How's that? Well, lets break this ridiculous post down, shall we? 1. How many enemy/terrorists did torture help recruit? Zero. The only people 'recruited' by it are found outside of Islamic fundementalists. Basically readers of the NY Times, Huffpuff, etc. YOU can't name ANYONE that was 'recruited' due to waterboarding. Nor can anyone elese. Its a Liberal Talking Point memo, that has no basis in truth, and no cooroboration. 2. How many Americans did it kill? Zero. Americans have been killed by Islamic Fundementalists for DECADES. Over 800 between the 72 Olympic Massacre and 9/10/01 as is documented. They don't scream 'Abu Ghraib!' when they self detonate, or go on a shooting rampage on an Army post, Freddie. This isn't about 'torture'. Its not even about Israel. Its about America guarantee's if you live here, you can worship as you choose, or not worship at all. The Islamic Fundementalists say this in every speech, every communication. You should actually listen to one some time. Have a nice day...and again, okay, waterboarding to save ANY American life but yours, or lets add somebody YOU care about. How's that?
For approximately 72K, BP Oil bought Owe-bama. And as President, he let them Spill, Baby, Spill! Its documented.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
The Great And Powerful Boofer Has Spoken!!!! Of course, it's all crap... Funny tho, how people like Boofer cited "torture rooms" as justification for invading Iraq. So is it your point, Boof, that allegations of torture work on recruiting Americans to support killing Ba'ath Party members but not on "Islamic Fundamentalists" because...they're smarter? And what was Hasan's issue about again...what was it again...US WAR CRIMES? You're a fucking asshole Boofer... World Clsss...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
World Clsss... But he owns three companies. He's a mogul.
LMAO. Medical monitoring is now experimentation to the Flotilla Party.
----------------------------------------------------------- During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories /0510/36783.html#ixzz0oyfhPrvS I will never understand why he believes he can get away with lying his ass off all the time. This isn't a difference of opinion, this is the promotion of absolute falsehoods in the face of what is a well established public record. First it was his claim to Fred that no vet or ex officer was against water boarding...now this...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Paper: 'Bush intends to attack Iran before the end of his term' ----------------------------------------------------------- During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051 Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories /0510/36783.html#ixzz0oyfhPrvS It's "experimentation" to treaties and protocols to which the US is signatory. You're long on the record as being agsinst the WOT...but you're pro torture...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Senior intel official: Pentagon moves to second-stage planning for Iran strike option
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Had one died they need to know why. In the US, more time is spent on data recording and documentation than on care. Two medical Docs , along with 3 RN's in my immediate family .
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Major investment bank issues warning on strike against Iran
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Former UN weapons inspector says attack on Iran 'virtual guarantee'
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Good for you cupcake... That doesn't change the facts or the law...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Study: US preparing 'massive' military attack against Iran
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The law doesn't change is 100% true. But they didn't experiment , Earl Of Long Isle. Your source has been proven fraudulent many times over.
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Then I'd say that you a) lack a basic understanding of what the word "experiment" means, implies and entails and b) are ignorant of the law in question, Jack of Ass... The source, btw, is Physicians For Human Rights...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
You don't care if the new source is accurate or not. As long as it supports your views. You are an ideologue, as Mr O Reilly would say. Former CIA officer: US to attack Iran within 6 months -----------------------------------------------------------
You haven't even read their report. But I'm the one who doesn't care. There was a time when you were a fairly decent contributor to political forums. Then you started taking it up the ass for Boofer. But thanks for reminding me why I had you on bozo. Took all of three posts.
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
DId you read the SECONDARY Source? Physicians For Human Rights. http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/news-2010-06-07.html
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I read it, did you?
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You did this with AZ's SB1070. Have you read that law yet?
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Meathead.
Are you trying to make a point, cracker?
Chuckles.....lose sleep over this Brian:) I know I will. The relevance for this bloviating fakery of contrived dogshit is "right up there" and should kick oil gushers and unemployment along with gargantuan future debt off to the curb. People need to focus on what's really important!!
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And yet one more stupefying comment from Dwarf's muzzle.... "The FRB is not unconstitutional. It was created by the Congress as it's chosen means to regulate the value of money." Welcome to our latest tard fake....DR SKIPPY INTRO!!!!!!and all us others thought to just throw away the used matchbooks rather than avail ourselves of the educational opportunities......LOL!!!!!!!
A quote never to be found on this kneecrawling sycophant's next "tombstoning" from internet sites. Unless written by himself.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. And yet one more stupefying comment from Dwarf's muzzle.... "The FRB is not unconstitutional. It was created by the Congress as it's chosen means to regulate the value of money." Welcome to our latest tard fake....DR SKIPPY INTRO!!!!!!and all us others thought to just throw away the used matchbooks rather than avail ourselves of the educational opportunities......LOL!!!!!!!
In The Report that states Bush apparently did this is this : "As recently as February, 2010, President Obama's then director of national intelligence, Admiral Dennis Blair, disclosed that the US had established an elite interrogation unit that will conduct "scientific research" to improve the questioning of suspected terrorists. Admiral Blair declined to provide important details about this effort." http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/news-2010-06-07.html
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Chuckles...took all of three posts to send her back to Bozoville...
#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace
Cant answer the simple question. "Did you read the article?" Overwhelmed war. Hide little man , hide.
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As proven here- you haven't bozoed me: You attack my posts in a reply to Brian S. And in your typical cowardly fashion, you didn't ping me. Did you read the The Physicians for Human Rights Report? http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/news-2010-06-07.html Did you read AZ Immigration Law SB1070?
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Why care what he does or doesn't do? Its not like he adds anything to the site. Hell, you can't even trust articles he posts due to his insane insertion of text. The filter is best with posters like that.
Just 10 days prior to the explosion, the Obama administration’s regulators gave the oil rig a pass, and last year the Obama administration granted BP a National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) exemption for its drilling operation.
#20. To: Badeye (#18)
If waterboarding can save one American life, do it.
#21. To: war (#19)
#22. To: Fred Mertz, Boofer (#20)
#23. To: Fred Mertz (#20)
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#24. To: no gnu taxes (#21)
The waterboarding performed by the CIA was careful and measured.
#25. To: Fred Mertz (#24)
#26. To: Fred Mertz (#24)
#27. To: war (#26)
#28. To: Fred Mertz (#20)
If waterboarding can save one American life, do it. Wrong answer.
#29. To: Badeye (#28)
#30. To: Fred Mertz (#29)
How many new enemy/terrorists did torture help recruit? How many Americans did it kill?
#31. To: Boofer, Fred Mertz (#30)
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#32. To: Boofer, Fred Mertz (#30)
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#33. To: war (#32)
You're a fucking asshole Boofer...
#34. To: Brian S, *Flotilla Party* (#0)
The report states that, "Medical personnel were required to monitor all waterboarding practices and collect detailed medical information that was used to design, develop and deploy subsequent waterboarding procedures." Notes the Associated Press:
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years,
according to financial disclosure records.
#35. To: Skip Intro (#33)
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#36. To: Brian S (#0)
RAW Story Tuesday May 20, 2008
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years,
according to financial disclosure records.
#37. To: WhiteSands (#34)
Medical monitoring is now experimentation
#38. To: Brian S (#0)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#39. To: war (#37)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#40. To: Brian S (#0)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#41. To: Brian S (#0)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#42. To: WhiteSands (#39)
#43. To: Brian S (#0)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#44. To: war (#42)
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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#45. To: WhiteSands (#44)
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But they didn't experiment...
#46. To: war (#45)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#47. To: WhiteSands (#46)
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You don't care if the new source is accurate or not.
#48. To: war (#45)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#49. To: war (#47)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#50. To: war (#47)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#51. To: WhiteSands (#50)
#52. To: WhiteSands (#50)
#53. To: Brian S (#0)
it's turning its back on something that could be perceived as a war crime
#54. To: all, Dwarf (#47)
There was a time when you were a fairly decent contributor to political forums.
#55. To: e_type_jag (#53)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#56. To: Abu el Banat (#51)
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#57. To: war (#56)
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Chuckles...took all of three posts to send her back to Bozoville...
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#58. To: war, Abu el Banat, e_type_jag, Badeye (#56)
Chuckles...took all of three posts to send her back to Bozoville...
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#59. To: WhiteSands (#58)
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