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Title: Ron Paul "has some reservations" about Arizona SB 1070
Source: examiner.com
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-27692-LA- ... rvations-about-Arizona-SB-1070
Published: May 28, 2010
Author: Martin Hill
Post Date: 2010-05-28 22:34:41 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Ron Paul, Arizona, SB 1070
Views: 11193
Comments: 28

Appearing on the Alex Jones radio show May 26th discussing a variety of issues, Congressman Ron Paul said that he 'had some reservations' about Arizona's new immigration law, SB 1070. 'I have some reservations about that law, but not its' intent', remarked the former presidential candidate and libertarian icon, whose son Rand Paul just won the Republican primary race for U.S. Senate in Kentucky.

Paul is not the first conservative libertarian to voice concerns about the law. Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano disagreed with the law and predicted it would be ruled unconstitutional in the courts. Arizona's Earnest Hancock, a longtime libertarian activist and designer of the 'Ron Paul rEVOLution' logo, opposed the law for privacy concerns and had mounted a tough fight for the bill's proponent Russell Pearce. Pearce then angrily referred to Hancock's activities as just short of 'domestic terrorism'. Hancock's lawyer then demanded a retraction and a censure of the senator.

In Wednesday's interview, Ron Paul explained that he understands the motive for the law and that people are simply frustrated with the Federal government’s lack of enforcement of existing immigration laws. Jones did not ask Paul what his specific concerns were. The comments can be heard at around minute 40 in the first hour of the May 26 broadcast here.

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#1. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Fox News analyst Andrew Napolitano disagreed with the law and predicted it would be ruled unconstitutional in the courts.

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On SB1070, Ron couldn't do any better, and hasn't for his own home state of Texas. I usually agree with Judge Napolitano on most things, but definitely not this one.

Both are dead wrong if they oppose AZ SB1070. It is the most viable attempt yet to regain control over runaway illegal immigration in the country. What are Ron Paul and Judge Naplitano's ideas on eliminating kidnapping in Phoenix, the second-highest kidnapping rate in the entire world?

Ron's son Rand just came out today in support of banning citizenship for anchor babies.

HAPPY2BME-ONLF  posted on  2010-05-28   22:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#1)

The States have no power over immigration or border enforcement.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-28   22:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#2)

The States have no power over immigration or border enforcement.

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Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, and Barack Obama all concur.

Arizona hasn't gotten the memo yet.

HAPPY2BME-ONLF  posted on  2010-05-28   22:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#3) (Edited)

The "memo" is the USCON.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-28   23:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

Does the USCON nullify state's rights?

SB1070 is based on federal law.

HAPPY2BME-ONLF  posted on  2010-05-28   23:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#5)

States have no rights. Only people do. States have powers.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-29   0:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

States have no rights.

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You might wanna CHECK THAT.

HAPPY2BME-ONLF  posted on  2010-05-29   0:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: WAR, WHITESANDS (#7)

HAPPY2BME-ONLF  posted on  2010-05-29   0:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#7)

I don't have to.

Governments have powers. People have rights. It's an underpinning of our Constitution.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-29   0:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#9)

Are you saying that SB1070 is unconstitutional?

HAPPY2BME-ONLF  posted on  2010-05-29   0:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#10) (Edited)

Yep on several levels not the least of which is that, absent Federal empowerment, States have no power to simply detain people based upon what LE presumes is their citizenship status.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-29   0:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#8)

Don't mistake my skepticism about this law for a general ennui regarding what AZ and other states may be experiencing.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-29   0:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#11)

What is your position on amnesty?

HAPPY2BME-ONLF  posted on  2010-05-29   0:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#13)

Agnostic.

You want to end illegal immigration, make targeting the employers the first priority. And start with Joe The Plumber.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-29   0:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#11)

Yep on several levels not the least of which is that, absent Federal empowerment, States have no power to simply detain people based upon what LE presumes is their citizenship status.

Did you read SB1070?

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051
from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years,
according to financial disclosure records.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories /0510/36783.html#ixzz0oyfhPrvS

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-05-29   0:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#2)

The States have no power over immigration or border enforcement.

Don't be stupid. Of course they do.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-29   1:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

Don't be stupid. Of course they do.

No state has the power to allow ingress and egress into and out of the US. That power resides in the Congress and the Commander in Chief.

Under your scenario, during WWII, AZ could have allowed as many Germans and Japanese to enter as it wanted to.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-29   7:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#17)

That is not my scenario. They are enforcing current law.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-29   8:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)

States can only enforce Federal law if they have been specifically empowered to do so. Currently, there is no such law which does so.

And yes, you claim that a state can regulate ingress and egress into the US. So, that IS your scenario.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-29   9:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

BTW, if they are merely enforcing current law then why did they need to pass a law?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-29   9:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#20)

You can't comment on a law you haven't read.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051
from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years,
according to financial disclosure records.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories /0510/36783.html#ixzz0oyfhPrvS

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-05-29   23:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war, WhiteSands, A K A Stone (#16)

U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

HAPPY2BME-ONLF  posted on  2010-05-30   1:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF, war (#22)

Here's the tell that he hasnt even read the AZ Law SB1070:

"States have no power to simply detain people based upon what LE presumes is their citizenship status." -war

-----------------------------------------------------------
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

During his time in the Senate and while running for president, Obama received a total of $77,051
from the oil giant and is the top recipient of BP PAC and individual money over the past 20 years,
according to financial disclosure records.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories /0510/36783.html#ixzz0oyfhPrvS

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-05-30   4:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#19)

Look dumbfuck. The states can do whatever the fuck they want. The Feds already voided the contract by not living up to their part of the bargain.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-30   6:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#24)

The states can do whatever the fuck they want.

Do you want the USCON obeyed or not?

The Feds already voided the contract by not living up to their part of the bargain.

What clause/article are you referring to?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-30   8:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: HAPPY2BME-ONLF (#22)

Immigration is not an invasion as it exists in a legal state. "Invasion" is a military incursion. There is no way a military incursion can be anything else ab rem.

You can't make words mean what you want them to mean.

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-30   9:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#25)

Arizona is following the constitution. The rest of the states need to follow suit.

Why do you hate America?>

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-05-30   9:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

Arizona is following the constitution.

Which clause of it?

Why do you hate America?

I don't. And why, in your mind, is that even remotely an issue here?

#67. To: war (#48) Keep hiding behind the bozo, bozo. (laughing) You've always been a world class pussy. Badeye posted on 2010-01-14 16:12:48 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-05-30   9:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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