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I'm here for the moneuy Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Bible Study See other Bible Study Articles Title: Bible Help Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Feb 11, 2024 Author: Vicomte13 Post Date: 2024-02-11 10:25:51 by Vicomte13 Keywords: None Views: 3909 Comments: 37 I've decided that it's time to offer my services for deep reading and interpreting of passages of the Bible. I have exhaustively read the Bible in English, Middle English and French, and have studies portions of it Latin, Koine Greek and Ancient Hebrew, including reading the ancient Hebrew pictographs. I did so for a simple reason: I'm alive because of God - 3 unambiguous episodes, and 6 other circumstances where God intervened to save my life. I have spoken with God on occasion, particularly during two 40-day water fasts. I know God exists, through direct personal contact. The scientific nature of God? Well, God never told me that he is the powers of nature. All that I know for certain is that he can read my thoughts and manipulate my physical body (including by healing it). In my thoughts, I extend this command over local nature, and the fact of intelligence, to control of the cosmos. God never told me that, but that's my logic and assumption. Now, the religious texts of the world, therefore, interest me. God exists, do these texts give any insight into him? In the West, we have the Bible. People here know it. I know it so well, so deeply BECAUSE I have looked through it, not for faith in God - I know God exists - but for factual details. As such, certain things in the text particularly interested me: the Genesis accounts, the Flood, the story of the Nephilim, the "soul", "Thou shall not kill...or murder", "Haaretz" - the land, the world?, "ha olam" and "ha slam va ed" (to.a distant time or forever?), "Kosmos", "Gehenna", "Sheol", the criteria for the afterlife, charity, Jesus on his return, "Spirit", "breath" and "wind" (Reach). These are the subjects that fascinate ME, and into which, therefore, I have placed the focus of my studies. I CAN, however, apply the same deep examination techniques to any part of the Bible. Just because these things fascinate me does not mean that they are the things that fascinate others So, if there is a particular aspect of the Bible that you want me to do a deep dive on, something that puzzles you, that you would like to hear an analysis of, reach out to me here and tell me. I will do an analysis and tell you what I see there. It may give you guidance, comfort, or something disturbing to think about. I have no agenda, just the ability to do deep study in multiple languages. That is all. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 28. #13. To: Vicomte13 (#0) Can you give your thoughts on these verses from Proverbs chapter 26? 1As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honour is not seemly for a fool. 2As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come. 3A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. 4Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. 5Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. 6He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage. 7The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools. 8As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool. 9As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouth of fools. 10The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors. 11As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly. 12Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him. A K A Stone  posted on  2024-02-13   21:17:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: A K A Stone (#13) Sure: the author doesn't like fools. Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-13   21:31:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: All (#14) Here is an example of what I mean by flat out contradictions in the Bible. In Luke 24, Jesus says this: “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem." Written WHERE? None of that is anywhere in the Hebrew Old Testament. That is Christian belief, stated by Christ, but what he says "is written" is NOT, in fact, written ANYWHERE in the Old Testament. The Bible is shot through with these contradictions. It isn't surprising that a book composed of books, written over the course of hundreds of years by different authors, none of whom had the whole collection of books we call "the Bible", come up with a welter of contradictions, write things that contradict other things that are written. The assertion of some Protestants that God gave us the Bible perfect - the problem with that is passages like this, where Jesus himself says that the Jewish Scriptures say that the Messiah will be killed and rise from the dead on the third day. That is not anywhere in the Hebrew Scriptures. But Jesus says outright that it is. That's either a lie, or a statement from ignorance. It is not possible for me to simply overlook things like that because I want to believe. I don't want to believe so badly that I will ignore obvious error and deceit. If you want to argue with me, it's really easy: cite the old testament passage that says that the Messiah will be killed and rise from the dead, on the third day, and preach reptentance to the whole world starting at Jerusalem. Go ahead, cite it. I'll wait. Crickets. Crickets. More crickets. Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-14   21:30:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: Vicomte13 (#15) The Bible is shot through with these contradictions. So says the man who says God is Satan and Jesus isn't God. You also said Jesus is Good. But Jesus said there is none good but God. Jesus was obviously referring to himself as well as the father. But you reject that and say you only believe Jesus's words. So according to you Jesus is Good but he says he isn't. Stick that in yur pipe. He actually says he is because he is God. A K A Stone  posted on  2024-02-14   22:45:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: A K A Stone (#22) (Edited) Yes, Jesus said he isn't God, only the Father is. And he said that only God is good. Ok. That's not a contradiction. He also says that he was sent by God, to bring God's message. That message is good, and Jesus is a faithful servant, so yes, Jesus says things that are good, and they come from God, so they are good. You love to insult me every other post. It smells of desperation to me. You could just, you know, ask me to explain myself, like a civil human being would. But nope, you have to bray at me like a jackass. Ok. You keep doing you. And I'll keep on responding to you with knowledge, though I get progressively less polite the more I am treated with contempt by a braying jackass. I could be persuaded with reason and fact. You've presented some facts, but they don't prove the point you're trying to make. For example, the fact that these ancient books were mentioned is interesting. But to assert that they contained whatever is missing from the Bible, that's just making things up, and it shows the lack of perfection of the Bible, which you have said is preserved by God and is letter perfect. It's clearly NOT perfectly preserved by God if Jesus says something that cannot be found anywhere in it, and you have to go to lost books and claim those as the sources. That's actually pretty devastating to your argument about perfection, as any objective person would see. But then you just get mad and start hurling insults at me. In olden times, your church would have burned me as a heretic. But you can't do that anymore, because you have become weaker and weaker with time. Calling me names annoys me - given the time I have spent with you presenting you things, I certainly don't deserve that. As I've said, you COULD ask me politely what I mean. But you just hurl insults like thunderbolts. That's not very...Christian...or at any rate it's not very Jesus like. You like to say I am satanic. You appear to me to be much moreso than I am. I ask questions about the accuracy of the book. There is no doubt in my mind about God - my doubt is that this book properly describes him. You ascribe what I say to satan and hurl at me. Ok. Maybe it were best if we just stopped this, then. If you cannot speak to me with proper respect, why should I keep trying. I'm not going to descend into the gutter with you and start screaming "Fuckwad!" at you, and the like. That's poor manners, and I'm not really that angry, just tired of the insults, and sad that we cannot ever get past them. Vicomte13  posted on  2024-02-15   11:31:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 28. #34. To: Vicomte13 (#28) But you can't do that anymore, because you have become weaker and weaker with time. Calling me names annoys me - given the time I have spent with you presenting you things, I certainly don't deserve that. As I've said, you COULD ask me politely what I mean. But you just hurl insults like thunderbolts. That's not very...Christian...or at any rate it's not very Jesus like. That is kind of fair enough. Except you do the same thing in my view. I don't think I have ever used the words you are satanic. I don't even claim you are going to hell. For all I know you are saved. I don't think you have to be absolutely correct on everything to be saved. Besides doesn't the Bible teach not to claim to know if someone is saved or not. That is a paraphrase. Also thanks for the time and thought you put into your posts. It is very considerate of you. Time is precious. Thanks again for your time. A K A Stone  posted on  2024-02-15 12:08:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 28. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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